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NTL blocking sites?

  • 01-12-2007 6:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭


    Is anyone having a problem accessing http://del.icio.us from an NTL broadband connection?

    I have 3 pc's in the apartment which cannot access it. Two apples and one windows machine.

    It's driving me nuts!

    Can anyone using an NTL connection check if the above link works for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    Nope can't access the site.

    EDIT: I used a proxy and it worked no problem
    69.147.76.140 port 3128


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭The tax man


    Just getting a white screen here.:confused:

    What kind of site is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    social bookmarking? what ever that is taxman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Pines


    Can't access the website with NTL

    Can ping the server
    Can do a tracert
    Can access via a proxy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭KJF


    Ok, so looks like they are.

    del.icio.us is a social bookmarking site owned by yahoo.
    It's very useful for sharing bookmarks etc.

    Have no idea why ntl would block it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    There's a problem with a couple of majorish sites on NTL. It looks like there's an issue inside either NTL or whichever upstream providers they use which is affecting HTTP connections. Anyone care to have a deeper poke around with a packet sniffer to see if they can spot anything strange?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭fuse


    They're also blocking soulseek, emule, last.fm radio


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    fuse wrote: »
    They're also blocking soulseek, emule, last.fm radio

    Are they allowed to just start blocking soulseek like that? I'm contemplating moving to a different ISP because of this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Just getting a white screen here.:confused:

    Same here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    They blocked the ports to access PaddyPowerPoker the other day and it really frustrated me as I was bored out of my mind! But it was only blocked for a day or so for some reason... :confused:

    Can't wait to get my Magnet back in a few weeks! They're the best! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭anthonymcg


    I was wondering wtf was going on with del.icio.us. Now I know. This better be temporary, it's a ridiculous problem for a service provider to be having.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    I get this on archive.org sometimes, as well as facebook sometimes
    I suspect they're RST flooding (i.e using a system specifically designed to cut off certain connections and save bandwidth)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭landmonster


    They are a bunch of poxbottles.

    From my own experience I can't use:

    http://del.icio.us
    Geocities
    Zshare
    archive.org

    and any site hosted by Yahoo.

    I would try and contact customer support but I might as well post here for all the good trying to talk to NTL does.

    Edit: Also, has anyone else noticed their IP with NTL has changed in the last few days? I used to have an IP of 89.100.xxx.xxx but now it's changed to 79.97.10.xxx

    Stil got the same problems with sites though. Obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭rcs


    I'm with NTL BB & havent been able to access:

    http://www.netvibes.com

    for the last couple of weeks... Can one of you try it see if you can access it? Every other site works perfectly for me... cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    rcs wrote: »
    I'm with NTL BB & havent been able to access:

    http://www.netvibes.com

    for the last couple of weeks... Can one of you try it see if you can access it? Every other site works perfectly for me... cheers

    Works fine for me no hassles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    rcs wrote: »
    I'm with NTL BB & havent been able to access:

    http://www.netvibes.com

    for the last couple of weeks... Can one of you try it see if you can access it? Every other site works perfectly for me... cheers

    This site works for me.

    To the person wondering about their IP, mine is still in the 89 range.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kensington


    Edit: Also, has anyone else noticed their IP with NTL has changed in the last few days? I used to have an IP of 89.100.xxx.xxx but now it's changed to 79.97.10.xxx
    Noticed this myself too. Modem logs show the network seem to have gone Thursday morning at about 2am, and since then I've had a 79.xx.xx.xx IP address. And speedtest.net shows my recommended server as Limerick :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭landmonster


    Kensington wrote: »
    Noticed this myself too. Modem logs show the network seem to have gone Thursday morning at about 2am, and since then I've had a 79.xx.xx.xx IP address. And speedtest.net shows my recommended server as Limerick :confused:

    Mine was showing Limerick too but it's Dublin now - via http://ip-adress.com

    Speedtest recommends Limerick as the test server though. Weird.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Snowbat


    Igy wrote: »
    I suspect they're RST flooding (i.e using a system specifically designed to cut off certain connections and save bandwidth)

    Comcast have been accused of using this in the USA against P2P traffic. I've never heard of any other provider using it and they'de have to be *really* insane to use it against major websites.
    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/14/2330202/

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity and technical faults.
    Edit: Also, has anyone else noticed their IP with NTL has changed in the last few days? I used to have an IP of 89.100.xxx.xxx but now it's changed to 79.97.10.xxx
    I think you're on to something there. 79/8 is a previously unused block that was released October last year and would still be blacklisted by routers that have not had their bogons lists updated since then. Telefonica Deutschland reported problems using IP addresses in this block last December.
    http://osdir.com/ml/operators.sanog/2006-12/msg00004.html

    Eircom have had similar problems with allocations in 83/8:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-136857.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭davros


    KJF wrote: »
    Is anyone having a problem accessing http://del.icio.us from an NTL broadband connection?
    I reported the same problem on this forum a couple of months back. It took a few weeks to get NTL to unblock it (on the phone they just told me they don't block sites but they promised twice to have a technical guy call me, which did not happen).

    It worked fine for a while but, as you say, del.icio.us is once again being blocked. So I am giving up on the site. I have moved all my bookmarks to Google Bookmarks.

    Incidentally, I had a similar problem with secure pages within worldpay.com recently that I am choosing to blame on NTL too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 spektr


    last.fm has started to work for me since this morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    A new UBR(router) was install recently which is causing the problem. They know of the problems and are working on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    DingDong wrote: »
    A new UBR(router) was install recently which is causing the problem. They know of the problems and are working on them.

    How do you know this?? Do they have an eta as to when it will be fixed? Also I think this problem is not just a recent thing, its been around for a while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    How do you know this?? Do they have an eta as to when it will be fixed? Also I think this problem is not just a recent thing, its been around for a while.

    I work for them. Don't know the time scale christophicus I'm not involved in getting it sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭PhantomBeaker


    Ok, the really strange thing is that I can ping del.icio.us but I can't tracepath to it. It can't hop past
    17:  ge-2-1-0-p141.msr1.re1.yahoo.com (216.115.108.19)    asymm 11 162.405ms 
    

    I can get by telnet but the connection is immediately closed, but I can't tell what point does it:
    aoife@anovadea:~$ telnet del.icio.us 80
    Trying 69.147.76.140...
    Connected to del.icio.us.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    Connection closed by foreign host
    

    So, I'm getting very mixed signals, I can ping, but tracepath won't give me a good path, but I can connect by telnet to the server but am immediately disconnected (which explains why we get a white page as opposed to "No server found" pages). Yet, I can access most other yahoo services.

    This is annoying. Has anyone contacted NTL about this yet?

    Aoife


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    KJF wrote: »
    Is anyone having a problem accessing http://del.icio.us from an NTL broadband connection?

    I have 3 pc's in the apartment which cannot access it. Two apples and one windows machine.

    It's driving me nuts!

    Can anyone using an NTL connection check if the above link works for them.

    Thanks a million lad. I tried to surf to that site and it bust my NTL BB connection. Straight away the modem lights went crazy and I couldn't ping anything. When I reset it It wouldn't get an ip address and stayed off. It only got back working this evening.

    Actually - wasn't this posted before because I think I did the same thing then too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 spektr


    DingDong wrote: »
    A new UBR(router) was install recently which is causing the problem. They know of the problems and are working on them.

    are they aware of all of the problems? and can you post here, when they are solved please?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    Snowbat wrote: »

    I think you're on to something there. 79/8 is a previously unused block that was released October last year and would still be blacklisted by routers that have not had their bogons lists updated since then. Telefonica Deutschland reported problems using IP addresses in this block last December.
    http://osdir.com/ml/operators.sanog/2006-12/msg00004.html

    Eircom have had similar problems with allocations in 83/8:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-136857.html

    I think snowbat hit the nail on the head. What other sites are people having problems with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    I cannot create new profile accounts at yahoo.co.uk, the page won't load.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    geocities doesnt seem t work on NTL bband


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    Imagevenue.com,

    Some of their servers haven't worked for me for over a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Same with imageshack. I cannot access some videos from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 kess-yo


    DingDong wrote: »
    I work for them. Don't know the time scale christophicus I'm not involved in getting it sorted.


    So do you think, that they're not blocking the p2p servers (Soulseek, e-mule etc.) and all this mess with p2p software not connecting through NTL is just because they installed the new router?

    Cause if they would block them, you wouldn't be able to connect at all, but now you can connect, but the connection goes on and off all the time. Innit?

    The thought of not being able to use Soulseek gives me chills...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    kess-yo wrote: »
    So do you think, that they're not blocking the p2p servers (Soulseek, e-mule etc.) and all this mess with p2p software not connecting through NTL is just because they installed the new router?

    Cause if they would block them, you wouldn't be able to connect at all, but now you can connect, but the connection goes on and off all the time. Innit?

    The thought of not being able to use Soulseek gives me chills...

    TBH I don't know for sure but I don't think the UBR is the problem more the ip address range in use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 moriez


    kess-yo wrote: »
    So do you think, that they're not blocking the p2p servers (Soulseek, e-mule etc.) and all this mess with p2p software not connecting through NTL is just because they installed the new router?

    Cause if they would block them, you wouldn't be able to connect at all, but now you can connect, but the connection goes on and off all the time. Innit?

    The thought of not being able to use Soulseek gives me chills...

    My housemates got wireless last week and I tried firing up SoulSeek. Forget about it! I dont even get it to turn green.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 spektr


    moriez wrote: »
    My housemates got wireless last week and I tried firing up SoulSeek. Forget about it! I dont even get it to turn green.

    the thing was working for two days last week actually but it isn't again since then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 moriez


    Ive sent them an email about it. Lets see if they reply. In the meantime, does anyone have a temp solution?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


    moriez wrote: »
    Ive sent them an email about it. Lets see if they reply. In the meantime, does anyone have a temp solution?


    Use

    http://www.getpassit.com/

    Should work a treat:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 moriez


    yayamark wrote: »
    Use

    http://www.getpassit.com/

    Should work a treat:)

    Care to explain mate?;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    del.icio.us did work at one stage with NTL - then it stopped working all of a sudden for me.

    With the NTL nameservers Traceroute shows:

    traceroute to del.icio.us (69.147.76.140), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.706 ms  2.870 ms  5.747 ms
     2  10.91.224.1 (10.91.224.1)  12.290 ms  16.428 ms  22.864 ms
     3  089-101-162065.ntlworld.ie (89.101.162.65)  23.634 ms  24.351 ms  25.828 ms
     4  dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net (213.46.165.5)  25.150 ms  26.622 ms  27.325 ms
     5  dbln-bb-a-ae1-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.53)  32.605 ms  33.343 ms  34.014 ms
     6  dbln-bb-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.50)  38.661 ms  20.112 ms  20.429 ms
     7  man-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.45)  25.064 ms  31.713 ms  32.429 ms
     8  bir-bb-a-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.133)  29.422 ms  30.170 ms  30.874 ms
     9  florence-pos20.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.218)  33.387 ms  34.091 ms  34.796 ms
    10  brad-wit-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.22)  41.710 ms  42.412 ms  43.100 ms
    11  194.117.136.169 (194.117.136.169)  39.955 ms  40.529 ms *
    12  194.117.136.149 (194.117.136.149)  36.034 ms  25.575 ms  23.588 ms
    13  pc-62-30-249-173-ha.blueyonder.co.uk (62.30.249.173)  26.301 ms  32.776 ms  40.743 ms
    14  pc-62-31-0-204-nm.blueyonder.co.uk (62.30.0.204)  45.556 ms  46.257 ms  46.962 ms
    15  pc-62-30-249-46-ha.blueyonder.co.uk (62.30.249.46)  43.574 ms  45.247 ms  52.461 ms
    16  194.117.136.145 (194.117.136.145)  53.214 ms  53.937 ms *
    17  213.228.222.10 (213.228.222.10)  169.405 ms  183.006 ms  183.828 ms
    18  so-1-1-0.pat2.dce.yahoo.com (216.115.101.131)  162.801 ms  166.801 ms  171.383 ms
    19  ge-3-1-0-p141.msr1.re1.yahoo.com (216.115.108.59)  175.599 ms  176.289 ms ge-3-1-0-p151.msr2.re1.yahoo.com (216.115.108.63)  172.166 ms
    20  ge-1-2.bas-a2.re1.yahoo.com (66.196.112.13)  174.777 ms  173.957 ms ge-1-3.bas-a1.re1.yahoo.com (66.196.112.7)  179.063 ms
    21  * * *
    22  * * *
    23  * * *
    24  * * *
    25  * * *
    26  * * *
    27  * * *
    28  * * *
    29  * * *
    30  * * *
    
    I've tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and ran a traceroute with the similar results.

    This is a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


    moriez wrote: »
    Care to explain mate?;)

    open up getpassit.com and put in the address u want in the place where it says web address


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    yayamark wrote: »
    open up getpassit.com and put in the address u want in the place where it says web address

    That's sad that we have to resort to proxying around the problem. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 moriez


    yayamark wrote: »
    open up getpassit.com and put in the address u want in the place where it says web address

    Good good, but my problem is SoulSeek not connecting so I dont think that is gonna help me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭00sully


    we should all complain, this is absolutely ridiculous.

    so far the list in this thread alone is
    http://del.icio.us
    Geocities
    Zshare
    archive.org
    http://www.netvibes.com
    Imagevenue.com
    imageshack

    all popular sites and im sure there are more. this coupled with their crippling not even close to advertised speeds is getting out of hand. We should not be sitting back and taking this.

    I for one am contemplating action and will be informing them of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 spektr


    00sully wrote: »
    we should all complain, this is absolutely ridiculous.

    so far the list in this thread alone is
    http://del.icio.us
    Geocities
    Zshare
    archive.org
    http://www.netvibes.com
    Imagevenue.com
    imageshack

    all popular sites and im sure there are more. this coupled with their crippling not even close to advertised speeds is getting out of hand. We should not be sitting back and taking this.

    I for one am contemplating action and will be informing them of this.

    http://del.icio.us/ doesn't work.
    geocities never worked for me.
    archive.org works fine
    netvibes.com works fine
    imagevenue.com works fine
    never had any problems with imageshack

    soulseek still doesn't work (for a month now?) as well as dc++ by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    00sully wrote: »
    we should all complain, this is absolutely ridiculous.

    so far the list in this thread alone is
    http://del.icio.us
    Geocities
    Zshare
    archive.org
    http://www.netvibes.com
    Imagevenue.com
    imageshack

    all popular sites and im sure there are more. this coupled with their crippling not even close to advertised speeds is getting out of hand. We should not be sitting back and taking this.

    I for one am contemplating action and will be informing them of this.

    I'm with you on that one mate! Thankfully, I'm moving house in January so I may be able to get a better ISP than NTL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭00sully


    John_Mc wrote: »
    I'm with you on that one mate! Thankfully, I'm moving house in January so I may be able to get a better ISP than NTL.

    lucky you man :p I already tried to move to smart but my line wasn't capable :(

    Im getting stuck right into NTL in new year - its my only resoultion :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    spektr wrote: »
    http://del.icio.us/ doesn't work.
    geocities never worked for me.
    archive.org works fine
    netvibes.com works fine
    imagevenue.com works fine
    never had any problems with imageshack

    soulseek still doesn't work (for a month now?) as well as dc++ by the way.



    Its only some of imageshacks video section.


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