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Three critically ill after Waterford party

  • 25-11-2007 12:36pm
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    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Looks like a busy night in Waterford!
    Three people are critically ill in hospital following a house party in Waterford last night.

    A further 13 have received medical treatment.

    It is understood that 16 people fell ill after attending the 21st Birthday party at a house in Ballybeg Square in Waterford last night.


    Three of the individuals are currently being treated in the intensive care unit at Waterford Regional Hospital.

    Gardaí in the city are examining a white substance which was found this morning at the house.

    Link: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1125/waterford1.html


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    'a white substance'

    radioactive man juice?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Cocaine obviously. Either that or a bag or sherbet! Whoever is dealing it is going to be in big trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    I lol'd when I first saw this...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    anthrax....... or milk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    I lol'd when I first saw this...

    The misfortune of others makes you happy? I feel for the families of these people should anything happen to them. People shouldn't take drugs but at the same time, I'm not going to wish harm on them for doing so. Although I'm sure it's very easy to have a told you so attitude in this situation as it's hard to feel sorry for junkies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The news headline on Newstalk did'nt mention any drugs angle ao I asumed some dodgy takaway owner was for the high jump.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Nice to see the Ice Cream truck is still in business in Ballybeg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    mike65 wrote: »
    The news headline on Newstalk did'nt mention any drugs angle ao I asumed some dodgy takaway owner was for the high jump.

    Mike.

    "Three men critically ill after Waterford party

    Three men are critically ill in hospital in Waterford after a suspected bad batch of drugs were allegedly taken at a birthday party. "


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Good enough for them. It was a 21st birthday party, not a 5th birthday party. They knew the risks involved.

    I just hope they didn't waste too much time and resources out in the hospital.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭utick


    the drug supply should be poisened more often, some junkies die off, some junkies get pissed off and have the dealers on the run and dont know who to safely buy from anymore, perhaps if the government intentionaly sent out bad batches of drugs more often it might kill the drugs trade in ireland


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 257 ✭✭mad man


    utick wrote: »
    the drug supply should be poisened more often, some junkies die off, some junkies get pissed off and have the dealers on the run and dont know who to safely buy from anymore, perhaps if the government intentionaly sent out bad batches of drugs more often it might kill the drugs trade in ireland

    Yeah this'd work:rolleyes:

    It's amazing how many of the tut tut brigade who think every drug users a junkie will go out and get out of their mind on drink at some stage this week.The fact is the biggest addiction problem in this country is caused by alcohol.Always was and always will be.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    don't be silly, alcohol is a good drug.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 257 ✭✭mad man


    Mordeth wrote: »
    don't be silly, alcohol is a good drug.

    I don't know if your attempting humour Mordeth.If you are then fair enough but it not then you can say the same about most drugs.Most if not all of them have benign uses or at least were intended that way.

    The truth is though that most of the social problems in this country and the UK for that matter are attributable in some shape or form to Alcohol abuse and always have been.I know this sounds like a sweeping statement but its true.If you done a survey of the prisons and mental hospitals in this country you would find the biggest common denominator is alcohol.Likewise road deaths.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I would honestly be happy if alcohol were banned.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I would honestly be happy if alcohol were banned.

    it would certainly make the world a better place,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭junkster12345


    Cabaal wrote: »
    it would certainly make the world a better place,

    not mine !!:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Yeah, but when did bad alcohol last put someone in IC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Junior


    Of course everyone who takes drugs is a junkie, wonder is everyone who drinks an alcoholic then ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Yeah, but when did bad alcohol last put someone in IC?

    Good alcohol can put someone in IC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Kahless wrote: »
    Good alcohol can put someone in IC.

    That wasn't the question though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1126/waterford.html

    Nothing toxic in the substance according to reports. Looks like it was a bad chip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭shapez


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Yeah, but when did bad alcohol last put someone in IC?

    Excessive alcohol puts someone in IC.

    And another thing, excessive alcohol also causes more fights/beatings/injury's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Roen wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1126/waterford.html

    Nothing toxic in the substance according to reports. Looks like it was a bad chip.
    Actually, the speculation now is that the problem was the purity of the batch - it was better than they were used to. Since most idiots are content with shoving whatever up their nose, when they actually get their hands on a good quality batch, they take five or six lines in a row and end up OD'ing.

    I love how the mother who owned the house was interviewed and when asked if she knew about the drugs in the house, she responded with, "Drugs are running this town". :rolleyes:

    Reap what you sow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Baby4


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Someone is still in custody, as said you reap what you sow. I'm not going to spare many of my tears for feckless idiots.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I think I've heard it all now.

    One of the critical is recovering from cancer treatment.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    mike65 wrote: »
    I think I've heard it all now.

    One of the critical is recovering from cancer treatment.

    Mike.

    boils my blood if this is true...and I wonder did they pay for such treatment?? Probably not but they can afford the money for a few bags of nose candy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    That just maddens me...

    Feckless idiots, I hope they're all charged.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    mike65 wrote: »
    I think I've heard it all now.

    One of the critical is recovering from cancer treatment.

    Mike.

    I have been reliably informed, he will be pronounced dead within the next few days. There waiting on a member of the family to travel over to turn of the life support machine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭steven22


    Sully wrote: »
    I have been reliably informed, he will be pronounced dead within the next few days. There waiting on a member of the family to travel over to turn of the life support machine.

    How reliable ? The family live in Viewmount which is a stones throw from WRH ? And the fella, Gray, he is the one meant to be worse. Waterford rumours Sully. Forgive me if im proven otherwise in the next few weeks. Im hoping he has a speedy recovery. Poor lad, cancer, now this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Mini


    Poor Lad? To be honest, I do feel sorry for him that he is battling cancer and my heart truly does go out to him. However, for the situation that he is in now, drug related, he does not get my sympathy. Quoted in the National Paper: "John took drugs but he didn't deserve to be in a coma." No, I will agree no one deserves to be in a coma - but that is something which anyone that even dabbles in cocaine is dancing with.

    My sympathies do go out to the family and friends it is a terrible thing to happen, but what else did they expect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    Might just tone it down lads, I am hearing one of the aforementioned is dead (unconfirmed, but usually a very reliable source)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭deisedolly


    Yeah ffs ye all have some cheek going on the way ye are. They were only going out to have a laugh, no one deserves this no matter how stupid their decisions may seem.

    I really hope they come through it's such a waste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Some laugh.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I just heard that one of them has died. Don't want to post a name.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭thebiggestjim


    I don't wish any of these people from Waterford bad but im saving my sympathy for Anthony Campbell and his family. If you remember Anthony was an 19 year old apprentice plumber who was shot dead along with Martin 'marlo' Hyland in a drugs related hit last December. Anthony just happened to be working in Hylands house when he was hit. Anthony was an innocent lad learning a trade who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Lets keep it in perspective what drugs are doing to our society and where our sympathies should lie.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    steven22 wrote: »
    How reliable ? The family live in Viewmount which is a stones throw from WRH ? And the fella, Gray, he is the one meant to be worse. Waterford rumours Sully. Forgive me if im proven otherwise in the next few weeks. Im hoping he has a speedy recovery. Poor lad, cancer, now this.
    Very reliable. As in, so reliable it cant be false. Make what you want out of that, but what im told was a guarntee from someone extremely close to the family.

    It seems the chap has died - I wont find out until the morning if its true or not, but id imagine the press have it before I will. At this time, I think its best we give our condolences to his family and friends. We all make mistakes, it looks like this chap may have made one to. May he Rest In Peace.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    I don't wish any of these people from Waterford bad but im saving my sympathy for Anthony Campbell and his family. If you remember Anthony was an 19 year old apprentice plumber who was shot dead along with Martin 'marlo' Hyland in a drugs related hit last December. Anthony just happened to be working in Hylands house when he was hit. Anthony was an innocent lad learning a trade who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Lets keep it in perspective what drugs are doing to our society and where our sympathies should lie.

    To be fair, I don't think any of the people in hospital were anywhere near as dangerous as the chap he was in the house doing work for. Its a completely different level of drug taking.

    You would be surprised, a very large amount of people take a small amount of drugs. Id imagine himself and friends fall into this category.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Sully wrote: »
    You would be surprised, a very large amount of people take a small amount of drugs. Id imagine himself and friends fall into this category.
    And it's these people who give the likes of Hyland their power in the first place. It's small casual drug takers who hold the most responsibility for the gangland scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭thebiggestjim


    You both hit on what im trying to say here
    Sully wrote: »
    To be fair, I don't think any of the people in hospital were anywhere near as dangerous as the chap he was in the house doing work for. Its a completely different level of drug taking.

    You would be surprised, a very large amount of people take a small amount of drugs. Id imagine himself and friends fall into this category.

    This is why I don't wish them bad sully, im sure they didn't wake up that morning with the intention of ending up in Intensive Care fighting for their lives.
    seamus wrote: »
    And it's these people who give the likes of Hyland their power in the first place. It's small casual drug takers who hold the most responsibility for the gangland scum.

    But this is why they won't get my sympathy, Anthony Campbell and his family will. As Seamus pointed out its the small casual drug takers that create the market for drugs and thus fuel drug and gang related crime in this country. Where a lot of this gang related crime is between criminals, as in Anthonys case someone innocent will get caught in the crossfire.
    I don't wish any of these people from Waterford bad but im saving my sympathy for Anthony Campbell and his family. If you remember Anthony was an 19 year old apprentice plumber who was shot dead along with Martin 'marlo' Hyland in a drugs related hit last December. Anthony just happened to be working in Hylands house when he was hit. Anthony was an innocent lad learning a trade who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Lets keep it in perspective what drugs are doing to our society and where our sympathies should lie.

    So the casual drug user may say I take drugs xxx 3 times a year its no harm. But the reality is in a small way they are contributing to the circumstances that led to the murder of Anthony Campbell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well WLR are saying both are still alive. However its just been noted how the father of one is on his way back home from Australia.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭halfinch


    I cant believe that some people on this are saying they are junkies...they deserve what they get

    Cop on. Alchohol related deaths are much higher than any amount related to any type of drug use.Yet this country sees alchohol as a socially acceptable form of addiction. Cocaine is taken by more and more ''respectable'' people in the community who would not under any circumstances be referred to as junkies. The lads knew there was a smal risk as does every drink punter who enters the town on a sat night, liver damadge e.t.c

    If anyone dies or maybe worse still has permanent brain damage they deserve sympathy regardlesss of the situation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    To be fair a you'd really have to be tanking down the booze to be rendered on life-support after a few hours. Cocaine is greater than a small risk, its not quality controlled, any sh1te could be in it.

    Mike.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    mike65 wrote: »
    To be fair a you'd really have to be tanking down the booze to be rendered on life-support after a few hours. Cocaine is greater than a small risk, its not quality controlled, any sh1te could be in it.

    Mike.

    Have to agree with this,


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    seamus wrote: »
    And it's these people who give the likes of Hyland their power in the first place. It's small casual drug takers who hold the most responsibility for the gangland scum.

    Not these chaps. If they were small enough takers, I don't think so. There are far bigger drug takers out there, and if all the small guys left its only a small dent to the bigger guys.

    mike65 wrote: »
    Well WLR are saying both are still alive. However its just been noted how the father of one is on his way back home from Australia.

    Mike.

    He wont be pronounced dead until his father is back, from what I hear.

    I to, have heard nothing on my side of his passing. Iv been informed there waiting on the father before they turn of life-support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭halfinch


    Im not saying that people end up in IC after one night on the bottle but the amount of deaths per year as a direct result of alchohol abuse is much higher that any result of drug use

    I just think the attituse of people on this regarding people who are in a bad way in hospital is just disgusting, if it was your brother/uncle/cousin you're thinking would be quiet different

    Human compasion is needed here not abuse to people who take drugs on a rare occasion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    halfinch wrote: »
    The lads knew there was a smal risk as does every drink punter who enters the town on a sat night, liver damadge e.t.c
    As mike alludes to, every drink punter has the benefit of choosing their intake and the quality control of the product before it comes on stream. When you go out for a few beers, you're going out with the expectation that three or four pints won't kill you tonight. And you'd be right.

    If you're shoving all sorts of crap up your nose, you have no idea what a "safe amount" is and you are taking an actual risk every time you use even the smallest bit of it.

    It's akin to buying your own bungie ropes, tying the knots yourself and throwing yourself off a bridge. You're taking a risk of death every time you do it, purely because you haven't a clue what you're doing.
    Human compasion is needed here not abuse to people who take drugs on a rare occasion
    In my experience, people don't take coke on a "rare occasion". You either do it regularly, e.g. every weekend, or you don't do it at all. This does differ from hash, where many people may only smoke a joint if it's being passed around, but wouldn't actively go out seeking it on a night out.

    This really is a case of stupid people doing stupid things and paying a big price for it.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    halfinch wrote: »
    I cant believe that some people on this are saying they are junkies...they deserve what they get

    Cop on. Alchohol related deaths are much higher than any amount related to any type of drug use.Yet this country sees alchohol as a socially acceptable form of addiction. Cocaine is taken by more and more ''respectable'' people in the community who would not under any circumstances be referred to as junkies. The lads knew there was a smal risk as does every drink punter who enters the town on a sat night, liver damadge e.t.c

    If anyone dies or maybe worse still has permanent brain damage they deserve sympathy regardlesss of the situation
    Got proof of that? I think its well known that drugs is a much bigger killer.

    As Mike said, you have a long way to go before getting into IC due to knocking to many drinks back. I suppose, alcohol is a slow killer. To much wont kill you straight away, but it will shorten your life span.

    Drugs, is a different kettle of fish.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    seamus wrote: »
    As mike alludes to, every drink punter has the benefit of choosing their intake and the quality control of the product before it comes on stream. When you go out for a few beers, you're going out with the expectation that three or four pints won't kill you tonight. And you'd be right.

    If you're shoving all sorts of crap up your nose, you have no idea what a "safe amount" is and you are taking an actual risk every time you use even the smallest bit of it.

    It's akin to buying your own bungie ropes, tying the knots yourself and throwing yourself off a bridge. You're taking a risk of death every time you do it, purely because you haven't a clue what you're doing.

    Exactly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭halfinch


    I dont have the exact paper from which I got it but I am doing a night course and we were recently studying heroinand the effect of it.Death by heroine was 165, cocaine ecstacy and other substance was around 600 and death by a direct result of alchohol not counting in road traffic accident as a a result of drinking was over 2,500. I remeber this as I was quiet shocked by it all yet we look down upon people who do it.Granted they have a choice and they are unaware of the amount that is being taken into the body....theses people are experimenting with drugs as many peopl do over some course of their life....

    Get down off your high horse it could happen to anyone you know


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