Dell XPS M1330

Binomate

I've been putting some serious thought in to getting one of these. Is there anyone here who has one who thinks that they're worth it? What I'm looking for is something portable for college for programming, that I can take to gaming lans as well too.

I'm not expecting it to be able to run any of the next generation of games with everything turned up to full or anything, but gaming is essential and I'd like to be able to have the games I play perform well on it. I plan to dual box in EvE online should I get this. Does the M1330 deliver the region of gaming performance, or is it mainly great for its size and design?

One thing I don't know if I like or not about it is that it has a 13" wide-screen which is rubbish for gaming, but at the same time it's really small which is what's so awesome about it. I reckon I could live with a 13" screen though, considering that I'll probably be playing most games on my desktop.

AlmightyCushion

If you want to game stay away from the m1330. It only has integrated graphics which are rubbish for gaming. Get a laptop with an 8600gt instead. It'll be at least a 15" laptop you'll be looking at though which will still be plenty portable and will have a good size screen for when you do play games.

2Scoops

The m1330 can ship with a 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS. It's not a great card by any means, but it's as good as you will get in a 13.3" laptop. The general opinion is that the m1330 can handle most games if you reduce the details and frame-rate, but it will never be a great gaming machine.

Here are some youtube vids showing games running on the m1330:
WiC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsgH4JXE4g

Crysis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd4tBjoT08E

FEAR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlJCnXbQRHk

TerrorFirmer

8400GS is OK, pretty poor for the latest games but perfectly good for slightly older games like Half Life 2 and other games from that era at high settings. So depending on how old the games you want to play are, it could be a good gaming machine.

Binomate

Sounds grand for what I'll be playing on it. There wont be a lot of gaming being done on this machine and any of the games being run on it will not be very demanding. For most of the games I play it would simply be more of a reserve machine. Most of the games I'd be playing on it are World of Warcraft for a while and mostly EvE online. Neither are very demanding. I'd also probably get it with the intel T7500 cpu.

To be totally honest, I think I've been suckered in by its looks and size, which is very foolish, but I'll probably end up getting one.

Viscosity

I'm in the market for a 1330 myself, currently have multiple dell store/dell outlet windows open!

If you look at the thread below, some people in bargain alerts are debating the amount of value available in the Dell Outlet at the minute.


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055188662

AlmightyCushion

Viscosity wrote: »

I'm in the market for a 1330 myself, currently have multiple dell store/dell outlet windows open!

If you look at the thread below, some people in bargain alerts are debating the amount of value available in the Dell Outlet at the minute.


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055188662

I haven't looked at that thread in a while but you might want to keep in mind the boards.ie 10% discount with dell. It doesn't apply to the dell outlet though.

jamieh

Hi lads,

I got one of these when they first came out.

I was waiting ages for mine (as in 3 months!!).....I think they've sorted out the problems now tho!

The size and design is lovely..very un-Dell like!! I was also thinking of getting Sony FZ but I'm more than happy with the M1330.

I don't use it much for games, but it can handle most games with the detail and frame rates turned down. I didn't buy it with intention to use it as a gaming machine anyway.

The only problem I've had was when the screen (the uprgraded White LED Backlit screen) stopped working. A Dell engineer arrived at my door the next day and replaced the screen which was great service!

Binomate

Gaming on this really isn't a priority for me. I think I'm going to go with the M1330. I was also looking at some of the inspiron 1520's and they don't look half bad. The only thing was that there were some compatability issues with the wireless card. I'm just doing a few price checks with the boards.ie discount and a discount my old man can get with his work. I'll see which is cheaper and probably order one tonight. Thanks everyone for the info.

AlmightyCushion

Binomate wrote: »

Gaming on this really isn't a priority for me. I think I'm going to go with the M1330. I was also looking at some of the inspiron 1520's and they don't look half bad. The only thing was that there were some compatability issues with the wireless card. I'm just doing a few price checks with the boards.ie discount and a discount my old man can get with his work. I'll see which is cheaper and probably order one tonight. Thanks everyone for the info.

If you are on about the EPP I think you can get both together. Check out the thread in Bargain Alerts, I think someone there got both together.

Binomate

I managed to get an pretty nice discount on the M1330. It was specced with a T7500, 8400 GS, 2gigs of ram, 120 gig HD, 6 cell battery and the upgraded moniter. All in all on the dell website it's about €1350. I'm ordering it for €1000.

AlmightyCushion

Binomate wrote: »

I managed to get an pretty nice discount on the M1330. It was specced with a T7500, 8400 GS, 2gigs of ram, 120 gig HD, 6 cell battery and the upgraded moniter. All in all on the dell website it's about €1350. I'm ordering it for €1000.

How did you get the €350 off?

Binomate

My old man ordered it through work. They get some pretty nice discounts from Dell.

Bass Cadet

Ordered mine through work to get the VAT off...delivered yesterday. It's a fantastic machine for the size and weight. I'm using it for anything from mixing music to graphics CAD programs and Photoshop, so far so good. The graphics card is absolutely fine as long as you're not expecting it to be an ultimate games machine. It's more than adequate for my purposes. Also, don't go for the 4GB RAM option, go for 2GB and upgrade yourself after. Dell charge an extra €300+ for the extra 2 GB -rip off. You can get that off the net for €100 instead and it's easy to install.

Binomate

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Ordered mine through work to get the VAT off...delivered yesterday. It's a fantastic machine for the size and weight. I'm using it for anything from mixing music to graphics CAD programs and Photoshop, so far so good. The graphics card is absolutely fine as long as you're not expecting it to be an ultimate games machine. It's more than adequate for my purposes. Also, don't go for the 4GB RAM option, go for 2GB and upgrade yourself after. Dell charge an extra €300+ for the extra 2 GB -rip off. You can get that off the net for €100 instead and it's easy to install.

How long did delivery take for yours?

auggie2k

eBay had brilliant specs for a little over €1100.

2.2Ghz, 250GB HD, 2GB RAM, 9-cell, Crimson Red, WLED WXGA display with the camera and all the extras...

http://cgi.ebay.ie/DELL-XPS-M1330-LAPTOP-2-2-GHZ-2GB-RAM-250GB-CRIMSON-RED_W0QQitemZ110193932446QQihZ001QQcategoryZ177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

bennyx_o

auggie2k wrote: »

eBay had brilliant specs for a little over €1100.

2.2Ghz, 250GB HD, 2GB RAM, 9-cell, Crimson Red, WLED WXGA display with the camera and all the extras...

http://cgi.ebay.ie/DELL-XPS-M1330-LAPTOP-2-2-GHZ-2GB-RAM-250GB-CRIMSON-RED_W0QQitemZ110193932446QQihZ001QQcategoryZ177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seems like that doesn't include VAT

auggie2k

Ah your right, didn't see that. Plus 17.5% VAT to total = less that €1400 - for that spec... that's crazy good cos I was pricing one myself yesterday close to that spec and it was coming up at €1600.

Fabio

I got an M1330 myself recently and I am very happy with it so.

It is built really well and turns heads around the college. I needed something portable and this really is the answer for that as you can take it anywhere with you and not notice any real weight in your bag.

The screen is really good as is the touchpad and keyboard - smooth feeling and not too much travel. The CD/DVD drive is a slot one like an on the new Apple's.

Try and get the nine-cell battery if you can as it lifts the laptop at the back so typing feels more natural with it and you can squeeze 5 - 6 hour sout of it when doing a little internet work and some light word processing. Expect 4 hours out of at the very least when doing more demanding stuff though the 6 cell is quite good too as long as you mange the power settings properly. I about 3 hours out of it for internet and word processing.

There is a slight bug with it that Microsoft are fixing though - it's a vista thing....the sound in all media players can skip sometimes which is annoying more than anything. An update is being done to clear that bug, or so I have read anyway.

Best of luck!

Bass Cadet

Binomate wrote: »

How long did delivery take for yours?

About 7 working days (i'm in Galway)

Sherifu

Im very happy with mine, i dont have it that long, just a few weeks.
Still getting used to vista on it, haven't tried any games yet.
It is well designed and i havent found any problems with it yet.

Binomate

Arrived this morning. Posting from it now. I'm very very pleased with it. It looks amazing. The LED display is absolutly amazing. It takes a bit of getting used to since I'm used to looking at a 19" display. It has a surprisingly high resolution for what I would have expected.

Phibsboro

I got myself one of these recently and have to say I love it. I got a great deal off the outlet store (at least it was at the time I ordered it, few weeks ago now). I got a CORE 2 DUO T7300 2.00GHz, 200 GB hard drive, 2GB RAM, the LED screen with cam, upgraded graphics card and internal bluetooth thingy for 1150 delivered. I added in a 3yrs international service for 150 (cos I intend to travel with it).

The unit was delivered within a few days and appeared to my eyes to be completely new - all freshly wrapped, down to the little plastic stickie over the touch control strip. One fun bit of ordering from the outlet store is wondering if you are going to get any extras - the description of the unit only covers the major things like cpu, HD, memory etc. In my case I got the fingerprint scanner - yay Not something I would have ordered myself but now I have it, I love it - much easier to log in with than typing a password

Cheers,
C

Vorrtexx

Got mine today, delighted with it.
Core 2 Duo T7300 2ghz
2GB ram,
160gb hdd
the usual other bits and pieces like dvd burner
But I was really happy to see it had a Nvidia 8400 GS 128mb RAM gfx card and a 9 cell battery. All for €830 incl. vat.

the bad news it's not for me It's a xmas present. I wish I got it for myself now.

mcic

I just got my XPS M1330 today - a few questions for anybody else who has one:

• What's included:
  I got the standard remote, sleeve, cloth, binder, cds and manauls, but also a small empty box, about 15cm x 15cm, with foam inserts to protect something in the shape of a square with the bottom right corner cut out - but it's empty! Any idea what should have been inside? (on the bottom of the box there's a code printed on it - 5858D A03, and on the side "Ship Code: 70").
• DVD Drive noise:
  When I press the power button there's a loud whine from the DVD drive, as if it's trying to spin up, even though there's nothing in it. Not a problem really, just a bit annoying.

Apart from those two things, it seems pretty good. The keyboard layout is a bit hard to get used to though.

Voodu Child

mcic wrote: »

I got the standard remote, sleeve, cloth, binder, cds and manauls, but also a small empty box, about 15cm x 15cm, with foam inserts to protect something in the shape of a square with the bottom right corner cut out - but it's empty! Any idea what should have been inside? (on the bottom of the box there's a code printed on it - 5858D A03, and on the side "Ship Code: 70").

I got that too. Havent a clue what's supposed to be inside. Don't worry, nothing's missing...(afaik)

In relation to the drive noise - a slot-load drive will make a small whine on loading/ejecting, which if you're not used to one, could be described as 'noisy'. It makes the same noise on startup, presumably as part of the laptop checking if a CD is present. for what it's worth, my M1330 is no noiser than any slot-loader ive owned.

However, it's possible you're experiencing a louder noise than normal - which i believe has happened to some M1330 owners. Possibly a faulty (or just noisy) drive. I couldnt tell you which without hearing your particular one.

Phibsboro

voodoo_child wrote: »

I got that too. Havent a clue what's supposed to be inside. Don't worry, nothing's missing...(afaik)

In relation to the drive noise - a slot-load drive will make a small whine on loading/ejecting, which if you're not used to one, could be described as 'noisy'. It makes the same noise on startup, presumably as part of the laptop checking if a CD is present. for what it's worth, my M1330 is no noiser than any slot-loader ive owned.

However, it's possible you're experiencing a louder noise than normal - which i believe has happened to some M1330 owners. Possibly a faulty (or just noisy) drive. I couldnt tell you which without hearing your particular one.

Just to say I got that box as well - I came to the conclusion Dell are using it as a bit of ad-hoc packing And yes, the slot loader is clunky!

mcic

Thanks for the responses. I was thinking that the empty box may just have been used for packaging, since the outer box is a bit bigger than the sytrofoam packaging around the laptop, a bit random though. I was a going to call them up to find out if there should have been something inside, but couldn't face a call with the dell customer service people and trying to explain everything to them.

Sherifu

mcic wrote: »

I just got my XPS M1330 today - a few questions for anybody else who has one:

• What's included:
  I got the standard remote, sleeve, cloth, binder, cds and manauls, but also a small empty box, about 15cm x 15cm, with foam inserts to protect something in the shape of a square with the bottom right corner cut out - but it's empty! Any idea what should have been inside? (on the bottom of the box there's a code printed on it - 5858D A03, and on the side "Ship Code: 70").
• DVD Drive noise:
  When I press the power button there's a loud whine from the DVD drive, as if it's trying to spin up, even though there's nothing in it. Not a problem really, just a bit annoying.

Apart from those two things, it seems pretty good. The keyboard layout is a bit hard to get used to though.

Got that box too,
I assumed a component from the laptop had been in it like the graphics card.
Didnt think too much of it at the time.
It could well be just a form of packaging, dunno really.
I managed to dual boot xp on mine yesterday so im happy out now.

mcic

Do the earphones come as standard with all M1330s? I didn't get any with mine but noticed that they're listed as being an in-the-box accessory on the Dell website. They're probably crap, but I'd still like to have them if I was supposed to have gotten them.

mcic

mcic wrote: »

Do the earphones come as standard with all M1330s? I didn't get any with mine but noticed that they're listed as being an in-the-box accessory on the Dell website. They're probably crap, but I'd still like to have them if I was supposed to have gotten them.

I filled in a missing part form on the Dell.ie website yesterday about my missing Vista installation CD and ear buds - got an e-mail this evening saying that my order is being prepared for dispatch.

Ouijaboard

yeah got the empty box aswell in two m1330's ordered, was kinda perplexed for a bit looking into both of them but soon got over it.

Nice machine but it's delicate, I just keep on having the feeling that it has to be handled with extreme care. I flipped it over to open mem slot as the fan assembly was making an annoying ticking noise when it ran, was thinking it was touching something, well it wasnt and when I replaced the back and flipped it back over and turned it on I notice several small scratches on the lovely LED LCD which werent there before, then noticed that the keyboard had scratched it as tiny parts of the gloss were still on the keys So needless to say I was delighted then that even owing to my careful handling i still managed to cause a minor mishap. Moral of the story be bloody careful with that high gloss screen as it can scratch against the keyboard if any even slight pressure is applied to back of lcd.

Anyone notice the clicking fan or did i just get a lemon?, the fan seems to come on slow at 40deg which is a bit overkill, used i8kfangui to set it to only come on when cpu reaches 55deg as for a tiny laptop it was beginning to sound a hell of a lot louder than my 15.4 toshiba and inspiron 6400......everything else seems ok tho

mcic

It definitely needs a lot of care - even when you carry it in the pouch it feels like you need to be very, very gentle with it. The LED screen especially, it seems to have a lot of flex in it (I don't know if it's intended to be a bit flexible or now). It's a great system, small, light, fast and a great screen, but I'm going to have to buy some extra padding for carrying it around.

I have noticed it's a bit noisier than I expected it to be, but not as noisy as my old Inspiron 6400 was. The fan isn't that loud, but it does come on more than in the 6400 - smaller heat sinks and all that maybe? Plus I have the non-integrated graphics card, which would add to the heat/noise.

machalla

I got one of these a couple of months ago. I can't fault it apart from only being able to get it with Vista installed. I'm not a fan after having to use it for the last couple of months. On the other hand Ubuntu 7.10 installed on this machine without a bother and everything from sound to wireless appeared to work out of the box.

Its grand for gaming overall. I tried Unreal 2007 on it and the game was zipping along fine playwise but the graphics themselves were not good for this game. On the other hand Dawn of War, Company of Heroes, Half Life 2 all look great on this machine. Since I can't see anyone buying it as an out and out gaming machine its all more than adequate.

So far the only downside has been the operating system. Good tip about the screen and keyboard, I must watch out for that.

SemperFidelis

Try this,

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=157838

I was able to use this to remove all the bloatware and speed up my m1330. Works a treat.

Bass Cadet

mcic wrote: »

It definitely needs a lot of care - even when you carry it in the pouch it feels like you need to be very, very gentle with it. The LED screen especially, it seems to have a lot of flex in it (I don't know if it's intended to be a bit flexible or now). It's a great system, small, light, fast and a great screen, but I'm going to have to buy some extra padding for carrying it around.

Agree with this. Like most lightweight laptops, when closed and if there is any pressure at all on the lid, it will push into the keyboard which may mark the LED screen. Hold onto the foam insert that came with the packaging or otherwise buy something like this...



From www.lappymats.com

Some people reckon it's a design flaw but it makes sense that any laptop pushed into a laptop case will at some stage be bundled in with other documents/magazines which can push the lid into the keyboard causing scratches.

lukej

Has the nvidia 8400M graphics card, that comes as an option for this laptop,
have a hdmi output or has it just got a vga output?

mcic

lukej wrote: »

Has the nvidia 8400M graphics card, that comes as an option for this laptop,
have a hdmi output or has it just got a vga output?

The 8400 has a HDMI output, but I think the onboard graphics has HDMI output too. It seems to be a standard feature of the M1330, unless I misinterpreted it.

I have the 8400, so it definitely does have HDMI and I'm fairly sure the onboard graphics does too.

mcic

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Agree with this. Like most lightweight laptops, when closed and if there is any pressure at all on the lid, it will push into the keyboard which may mark the LED screen. Hold onto the foam insert that came with the packaging or otherwise buy something like this...

I got a XPS branded cloth with mine, looks similar to what's in that pic. I thought it was for cleaning the screen and for cleaning fingerprints off of the matte part of the shell, but it's probably supposed to be used to protect the screen when closed too?

BostonB

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Agree with this. Like most lightweight laptops, when closed and if there is any pressure at all on the lid, it will push into the keyboard which may mark the LED screen. ....

Some people reckon it's a design flaw but it makes sense that any laptop pushed into a laptop case will at some stage be bundled in with other documents/magazines which can push the lid into the keyboard causing scratches.

That is a design flaw IMO.

Bass Cadet

BostonB wrote: »

That is a design flaw IMO.

Well, if it is a design flaw then what's the alternative? Make the shell out of solid, hard, heavy, unforgiving plastic? With a bit of care with the product as is, it should'nt be a problem. No matter how much of a distance there is between the screen and keyboard when closed, if you apply enough pressure, it will cause scratches if there is no padding between it

Voodu Child

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Well, if it is a design flaw then what's the alternative? Make the shell out of solid, hard, heavy, unforgiving plastic? With a bit of care with the product as is, it should'nt be a problem. No matter how much of a distance there is between the screen and keyboard when closed, if you apply enough pressure, it will cause scratches if there is no padding between it

Ah, there's no problem IMO. There's a small amount of flex in the screen, but only a torsional type of flex (a twist from one side to another - you can pull the left side up a few mm and the right side down).

There's very little flex available in the middle of the screen - it's actually more rigid in this aspect than some bigger bulkier laptops i've used. I don't see any problem tbh, certainly no design flaw.

BostonB

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Well, if it is a design flaw then what's the alternative? Make the shell out of solid, hard, heavy, unforgiving plastic? With a bit of care with the product as is, it should'nt be a problem. No matter how much of a distance there is between the screen and keyboard when closed, if you apply enough pressure, it will cause scratches if there is no padding between it

I've never had a laptop that caused the keyboard to leave marks on the screen. I've only heard of this before with MacBooks.
http://www.maxupgrades.com/istore/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=124 Mind my experience is with regular sized laptops not ultra thin ones.

IMO the solution its to put dimples that raise the screen off the keyboards. If you put enough pressure to bend a screen that far, your in danger of cracking the LCD or the backlight.

pokermonkey

hmm. saw this on the dell website today.

currently have an 8600 inspiron.

do i need to spend €1500 on this nice piece of kit?

i see some people are happy with it. any update?

vote4pedro

I'm also about to order one of these but could do with some advice. I won't be needing it for any high spec gaming, just want it to run things like Football Manager quick as possible.

With that in mind I was thinking of just getting the €1,169 package which has Components
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Base Warranty - 1 Year XPS Premium Hardware Support (incl. Gaming and On-Site Support)
Tuxedo Black & 2.0 mega pixel Camera for CCFL Display
13.3" UltraSharp™ WXGA (1280x800) CCFL Display (220nits) with TrueLife™
Biometric Fingerprint Reader
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
160GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
128MB nVidia® GeForce® 8400M GS
Fixed 8x DVD+/-RW Slim Slot Load Drive, including SW
Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr)
No Modem


or would it be worth paying more for the €1,279 deal which comes with

Components
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T7500 (2.20 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 4 MB L2-cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Base Warranty - 1 Year XPS Premium Hardware Support (incl. Gaming and On-Site Support)
Tuxedo Black & 0.3 mega pixel Camera for White-LED Display
13.3" UltraSharp™ WXGA (1280x800) White-LED Display (300 nits) with TrueLife™
Biometric Fingerprint Reader
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
250GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
128MB nVidia® GeForce® 8400M GS
Fixed 8x DVD+/-RW Slim Slot Load Drive, including SW
Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr)
No Modem


I don't mind paying the extra if it will make a noticeable difference, the bigger hard drive is certainly a plus, but would the better screen really make much of a difference, and all in all would it be better value to pay the extra €110 and get the second deal?

Cheers!

nice1franko

I thought I was after getting a bargain when I got this from the outlet just before Christmas. Had to act fast because I'd to go somewhere so didn;t research it but was still sure it was a bargain. I bought 2gig ram seperately from that place in kildare for €50 and replaced one of the 512mb modules. Probably wasn't as good a bargain as I thought then was it, considering it's only 1.5GHz?

SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
INSPIRON XPS M1330
XPS M1330 CORE 2 DUO T5250 1.50GHz, 667

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Operating System: English - Vista Home Premium
Memory: 1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2x512)
Hard Disk Drive: Hard Drive 120GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM)
NoteBook Screen: 13.3 WXGA (1280x800) Display with TrueLife?
CD Read-Write Drive: 8xDVD+/-RW Slim Slot-Load Drive
Software: English - Microsoft Works 8
MISC: Tuxedo Black & 2.0 mega pixel Camera for CCFL Display
Biometric Fingerprint Reader
Primary 4-cell 37WHr Li-Ion Battery
Travel Remote Control Unit
English/Irish Ship Accessories - Power Cord
European Dell TrueMobile 355 internal Bluetooth Module
TOTAL EUR 591.07

AlmightyCushion

nice1franko wrote: »

I thought I was after getting a bargain when I got this from the outlet just before Christmas. Had to act fast because I'd to go somewhere so didn;t research it but was still sure it was a bargain. I bought 2gig ram seperately from that place in kildare for €50 and replaced one of the 512mb modules. Probably wasn't as good a bargain as I thought then was it, considering it's only 1.5GHz?

SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
INSPIRON XPS M1330
XPS M1330 CORE 2 DUO T5250 1.50GHz, 667

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Operating System: English - Vista Home Premium
Memory: 1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2x512)
Hard Disk Drive: Hard Drive 120GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM)
NoteBook Screen: 13.3 WXGA (1280x800) Display with TrueLife?
CD Read-Write Drive: 8xDVD+/-RW Slim Slot-Load Drive
Software: English - Microsoft Works 8
MISC: Tuxedo Black & 2.0 mega pixel Camera for CCFL Display
Biometric Fingerprint Reader
Primary 4-cell 37WHr Li-Ion Battery
Travel Remote Control Unit
English/Irish Ship Accessories - Power Cord
European Dell TrueMobile 355 internal Bluetooth Module
TOTAL EUR 591.07

You got a 13" laptop for under €600? That's a bargain.