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  • 22-11-2007 12:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭


    Hey all.

    Ok, I'm 6'0", and a hardgainer. Always have been. I started going to the gymin May or so. I weighed 11st with 13% Body Fat (BF). Now I'm 12st 9lbs with 9% BF.

    My diet is roughly this (when I stick to it)


    8am: Pint of Milk w/Nesquik (hate the taste of just milk)

    9am: Three Weetabix w/ milk,

    11am:usually two yogurts

    1pm: Right now, it's a sandwich/panini with cheese, turkey (deli, I know it's poor), stuffing and cheese w/apple juice

    3.30/4pm: Weightgainer shake (N-Large 2, three scoops with milk)

    Gym from 6-7.15 or so

    7.20pm: Weight gainer shake (as above)

    8.30pm: Two grilled battered chicken fillets (Big Al's) w/two buns

    11/11.30pm: (Avonmore Chicken & Veg) Soup with a Two-scoop weightgainer.


    ******************************


    My workout is currently:

    Day 1: Chest/Triceps
    Day 2: Back/Biceps
    Day 3: Legs/Shoulders

    I do three sets across the board, aiming to do around 15 on the first set, between 10-12 on the second set and 4-10 on the final set, raising the weight each time. usually go to failure or use the rest-pause technique.

    Day 1:

    Incline bench press
    Decline Press
    Flyes

    Tricep pulldowns w/hand straps
    Skull Crushers
    Narrow-Grip sitting chest press machine


    Day 2:
    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
    Standing Narrow Grip lat pulldown
    Bent Over dumbbell Rows

    Standing E-Z bar bicep burls
    Preacher Curls
    (and if I've anything left) 21's (7 low, 7 high, and 7 full curls)

    Day 3:
    Shoulder Press Machine
    Front Dumbbell Raises
    Lat Raises
    Behind the back Barbell shrugs

    Squats
    Leg Press
    Calf Raises


    I have changed my workout routine recently, I can post that up if it helps in any way? But I figured this was enough to read to start off with!



    I'm looking to keep putting on size. I'm not terribly bothered about putting on a bit of fat, it's part of it. Even with the weight I've gained, there's not too much fat there. The BF% has actually dropped!
    But I'm sure the peeps on here can give me some advice on diet and working out, so please do.

    Thanks,

    CJ


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    If that's all you're eating then you're not a hardgainer....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Hanley wrote: »
    If that's all you're eating then you're not a hardgainer....

    Agreed. There is no such thing as a hardgainer.....it was a clever word developed by a clever man to sell books and magazines.

    If your training hard and eating big you grow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Cheers lads, but that doesn't really help... d'ya reckon I should change anything up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Cadrach


    The diet doesn't look good. To begin with, you need more solid real food - proper steaks/chicken breasts (not Big Al's)/fish and lots of fresh veg (broccoli/spinach/peppers/etc. - I know they're not nice but they're good for you)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    First off, congrats on the progress so far. To keep making progress, keep it simple. If the volume of food you are currently eating isn't helping to add mass, then eat more.

    At first, get used to the increase in food. I get the feeling that if you start to micro-analyse your diet too much you'll end up not eating enough becuase you're afraid of eating the "wrong" thing. Don't be: eat more of the good foods and you can't go wrong. More fats, more protein, more complex carbs.

    At breakfast maybe have some wholemeal toast and peanut butter, or scarmble some eggs, or have both and the weetabix!

    Mid-morning add some nuts, some fruit, an oat bar or three oat bars - essentially get another proper "meal" into you. Double the size of your lunch. Oh and get more veg into you - nothing to do with the weight gain, your diet just lacks in antioxidants, vitamins and minerals ;) Whatever your diet is right now, make it bigger. You have a license to eat more - make the most of it!!

    In training put the emphasis on big, heavy, compound lifts. As long as you're eating enough to support the growth of muscle it will do!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭hardtrainer


    From the info you've given, you've added more than a lb of muscle per week (on average) for 6 months, so thats great going. Has it been a slow and regular gain in mass or have you found that your gains have tapered off in the last couple of months?
    This is important, as if you have seen things tapering off, then perhaps it's time to make changes. If you've been consistently making gains, then honestly, just keep going as you are (though do try to balance your diet with some fruit and veg as G'em and Cadrach have already said).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    While what the lads say is true, oh so true, can I just add to watch the BF%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    Train for strength, eat a lot of healthy foods, and you'll grow.

    You don't eat enough protein by the looks of it, particularly early in the morning. Get some meat into you early enough, and at every meal.

    Also, as g'em said, eat more veg - this should really be the mainstay of your carb intake. Don't train your body in a segmented capacity, train it all as one - the compound movements of the squat, deadlfit, press, pull ups, dips etc will deliver a better anabolic punch to aid in growth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    From the info you've given, you've added more than a lb of muscle per week (on average) for 6 months, so thats great going. Has it been a slow and regular gain in mass or have you found that your gains have tapered off in the last couple of months?
    This is important, as if you have seen things tapering off, then perhaps it's time to make changes. If you've been consistently making gains, then honestly, just keep going as you are (though do try to balance your diet with some fruit and veg as G'em and Cadrach have already said).

    It's been a big gain when I manage to stick to my diet. For instance, I lost 3lb over one weekend from not really eating much or often. It's taken me two weeks of fairly solid eating to regain that again. Also, I forgot to mention that I'm on creatine. I was on Animal Pump (now banned) and found it excellent. The NO and other stuff in it really gave a boost and a good focus. I'm on N-Gorge now, it has creatine and NO but I don't find it as effective. So maybe that counts for something?
    Also throwing in cod liver oil and multivitamin tabs, but I realise they're no substitute for real vits through good food. I'd usually go for red apples, bananas, pineapple... carrots, maybe parsnip, potatoes... it's getting the time to make veg that's the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    CJ Marren wrote: »
    it's getting the time to make veg that's the problem.

    Buy steamer as pictured:
    PastaCookerVegSteamer?$lg$

    Put water in steamer. Heat until water is boiling. Put veg (fresh or frozen) into steamer. Leave for 3-5 mintues. Remove. Eat.

    I pre-cook all my lunch meals this way, usually steaming a chicken breast before the veg. It takes me all of 15 minutes to do in the evenings, or 5 if I've already cooked up a batch of chicken breasts a couple of days beforehand.

    Alternatively get a roasting dish (a deep rectangular dish) and slice up carrots, parsnip, aubergine, courgette, red onion, cloves of garlic, peppers and tomatoes. Drizzle liberally with olive oil and bung in a 200C oven for about 30 minutes. Deee-licious :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Right-o, I've changed the old breakfast - now porridge (with Avonmore Choc Milk for taste, can't stand it otherwise) and I'll pick up a steamer (haha) at the weekend. Never even occured to me that they cooked stuff that quick!
    Thanks again G'em!


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