Ok, now I'm freaked out...

Cyradis

Was talking to a mate of mine recently who is deep into UN politics and he was talking to be about this thing called Codex Alimentarius. I never heard of this, I thought it was some type of PC game! haha

But yeah, apparently, Codex Alimentarius is a new legislation the UN is trying to get the whole world to apply in their countries. Codex Alimentarius is translated into "food code" or "food plan"...can't remember. But what scares me is what it's all about!! I thought my mate was having me on until I did a bit of research....anyways...hope you're sitting down...

Basically, and very basically, the whole point of the thing is to set down rules on foods and vitamins across the world. I don't like that, but it gets worse. If this gets through, suppliers of food WON'T need to disclose whether or not it is GM food or organic! They won't need to divulge most of the ingredients either!!! WHAT? That's pure madness, but, it gets worse...

Vitamins will not be allowed to be sold in shops.....that's right....VITAMINS.....you'll only be able to get them from a doctor by PRESCRIPTION and not in any worthwhile dosages........so, the food we eat will be ****, and we can't even take vitamins to make up for that fact?? Huh?

I was also told that many "superfoods" as they call them....Goji berries and such, will be either banned or not allowed because they'll be classed as a "drug".

I can't believe something like this exists....can someone ease my mind a little?? HAHA

Thanks!

biko

The Codex Alimentarius Commission was created in 1963 by FAO and WHO to develop food standards, guidelines and related texts such as codes of practice under the Joint FAO/WHO Food Standards Programme. The main purposes of this Programme are protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

On other hand it's a conspiracy
* Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use.
* Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water.
* All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.
* Genetically altered food would be sold worldwide without labelling.

Cyradis

Protecting health? haha

I don't get how not letting consumers know if their food is Gm or not and not letting people buy vitamins is "protecting health"!

I'm very suspicious about this...

I shall do some Google searches and see what this ****'s about.

RxQueen

the food we do eat is sh!t anyways!! take macdonald for instants, how do you know where the chickent for you burger came from!!!

that rule the un are thinking about , is just someone with to much time on there hands to think about the important stuff. like i dunno extending the weekend and the likes!!:rolleyes:

ScumLord

biko wrote: »

The Codex Alimentarius Commission was created in 1963 by FAO and WHO to develop food standards, guidelines and related texts such as codes of practice under the Joint FAO/WHO Food Standards Programme. The main purposes of this Programme are protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations.

Cyradis post sounds like anything but that. They should be encouraging organic and eco friendly farming and localised selling that would ensure our food is good, Irish food is very good quality. Other than that they should leave will enough alone.

Rob_l

about the vitamins I think they should be taken from shelves its a con
there is very little real scientific evidence that synthesized vitamins are of benefit.
In fact I know of one study which found the opposite

magick

put on your tin foil hats people!

Cyradis

magick wrote: »

put on your tin foil hats people!

Huh?

monkey9

Jaysus, it sounds like they're trying to reduce the population by killing us off. Feeding us ****e and not being able to get better from it.

Cyradis

Rob_l wrote: »

about the vitamins I think they should be taken from shelves its a con
there is very little real scientific evidence that synthesized vitamins are of benefit.
In fact I know of one study which found the opposite

Well, this is why I'm upset. I work with highly trained doctors and nutritionists who swear by the practice of curing illnesses with nuti-vitamins and high dosage minerals. You'll be shocked at how many mental illnesses and psychical ailments they cure by their methods. Hence why I'm upset they want to ban such practices.

mike65

put on your tin foil hats people!

Translation

"Cyradis, you have bothered to register on this message board to spam your conspiracy beliefs".

Mike.

Cyradis

Also, mainsteam "vitamins" and "multi-vitamins" ARE crap and useless....their dosages are tiny, and irrelevant, plus they lack the catalysts required for each bloody vitamin and mineral to work.

I reccomend anyone interested in curing diseases with high dosage vitamins to read Dr. Atkins' "The Nutri-Vitamin Solution"....it basically shows you how to cure most illneses through high-dosage vitamin and mineral intakes. Very interesting read, I and my counterparts have cured multiples people using these such procedures, hence why should we not be allowed use these anymore?

Rob_l

Cyradis wrote: »

Well, this is why I'm upset. I work with highly trained doctors and nutritionists who swear by the practice of curing illnesses with nuti-vitamins and high dosage minerals. You'll be shocked at how many mental illnesses and psychical ailments they cure by their methods. Hence why I'm upset they want to ban such practices.

eh sorry what?

they are not stopping trained nutrionists and doctors from your post it seems they are stopping me or the average joe from deciding I need twenty of these and ten of those a day self dosing with vitamins

Cyradis

mike65 wrote: »

Translation

"Cyradis, you have bothered to register on this message board to spam your conspiracy beliefs".

Mike.

As I have stated, I have only heard of this thing today and as my profession revolved around such things I am generally concerned.

How the hell do conspiracy theories come in here?

Cyradis

Rob_l wrote: »

eh sorry what?

they are not stopping trained nutrionists and doctors from your post it seems they are stopping me or the average joe from deciding I need twenty of these and ten of those a day self dosing with vitamins

That's true, but I was told the dosages will be limited greatly, anyways, enough talk, I need to find out more about this thing, in case I'm being fooled here...

humbert

Cyradis wrote: »

I reccomend anyone interested in curing diseases with high dosage vitamins to read Dr. Atkins' "The Nutri-Vitamin Solution"....it basically shows you how to cure most illneses through high-dosage vitamin and mineral intakes. Very interesting read, I and my counterparts have cured multiples people using these such procedures, hence why should we not be allowed use these anymore?

I will read up on this but you're starting to sound like a agent of the lizard people.

Rob_l

Cyradis wrote: »

That's true, but I was told the dosages will be limited greatly, anyways, enough talk, I need to find out more about this thing, in case I'm being fooled here...

yes just as they were done on things like paracetamol which again people were doing damage to themselves by self dosing.

So by limiting the amount they can have you limit the damage they can do.

I think your underestimating just how stupid people really are!

ScumLord

I was prescribed an iron supplement after coming back from a 2 month drinking session and it worked for me. Other than that I take the cod liver oil with multi-vitamins.

mike65

Anyone with a decent diet gets all the vitamins and minerals required. Pouring them down your throat is not a cure for anything.

Mike.

Cyradis

humbert wrote: »

I will read up on this but you're starting to sound like a agent of the lizard people.

What the hell? haha

So yeah, I downloaded a PDF of some section of the Codex and.....meh......you know how those official people write. It's VERY formal and monotonous.

It's like reading a disclaimer......oh God....

Argh...

I'll get a coffee and tackle the "meat procedures" one....

Mossy Monk

The UN want to kill us all.

Cyradis

mike65 wrote: »

Anyone with a decent diet gets all the vitamins and minerals required. Pouring them down your throat is not a cure for anything.

Mike.

This is VERY true!!!

I am not saying use vitamins for replacing lost energy from food, far from it, I'm talking about large doses to cure illnesses etc. Someone said something about it being dangerous! HAHAHA

Ever know anyone who diet from a vitamin c overdose?? Come off it!

I grow my own food on my farm, 'tis the only safe way I suppose, but this Codex thing apparently wants to muddy the waters regarding letting consumers know if it's GM or not? GM crops are extremely un-nutritious and hazardous to health.

Anyways, yeah coffee haha

delta_bravo

Cyradis wrote: »

This is VERY true!!!

I am not saying use vitamins for replacing lost energy from food, far from it, I'm talking about large doses to cure illnesses etc. Someone said something about it being dangerous! HAHAHA

Ever know anyone who diet from a vitamin c overdose?? Come off it!

I grow my own food on my farm, 'tis the only safe way I suppose, but this Codex thing apparently wants to muddy the waters regarding letting consumers know if it's GM or not? GM crops are extremely un-nutritious and hazardous to health.

Anyways, yeah coffee haha

Im almost certain Vitamin A can be lethal if taken in vast amounts

Cyradis

biko wrote: »

The Codex Alimentarius Commission was created in 1963 by FAO and WHO to develop food standards, guidelines and related texts such as codes of practice under the Joint FAO/WHO Food Standards Programme. The main purposes of this Programme are protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

On other hand it's a conspiracy
* Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use.
* Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water.
* All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.
* Genetically altered food would be sold worldwide without labelling.

Is that form Wiki?

Or any reputable source?

Setun

humbert wrote: »

I will read up on this but you're starting to sound like a agent of the lizard people.

rofl

I've heard of aspects of this already actualy. Why would the UN promote GM food though?

Cyradis

delta_bravo wrote: »

Im almost certain Vitamin A can be lethal if taken in vast amounts

In large amounts, vitamin A can damage bone marrow, fortunately, vitamin A is not really needed among nutri-vitamin therapies.

builttospill

Cyradis wrote: »

Was talking to a mate of mine recently who is deep into UN politics and he was talking to be about this thing called Codex Alimentarius. I never heard of this, I thought it was some type of PC game! haha

But yeah, apparently, Codex Alimentarius is a new legislation the UN is trying to get the whole world to apply in their countries. Codex Alimentarius is translated into "food code" or "food plan"...can't remember. But what scares me is what it's all about!! I thought my mate was having me on until I did a bit of research....anyways...hope you're sitting down...

Basically, and very basically, the whole point of the thing is to set down rules on foods and vitamins across the world. I don't like that, but it gets worse. If this gets through, suppliers of food WON'T need to disclose whether or not it is GM food or organic! They won't need to divulge most of the ingredients either!!! WHAT? That's pure madness, but, it gets worse...

Vitamins will not be allowed to be sold in shops.....that's right....VITAMINS.....you'll only be able to get them from a doctor by PRESCRIPTION and not in any worthwhile dosages........so, the food we eat will be ****, and we can't even take vitamins to make up for that fact?? Huh?

I was also told that many "superfoods" as they call them....Goji berries and such, will be either banned or not allowed because they'll be classed as a "drug".

I can't believe something like this exists....can someone ease my mind a little?? HAHA

Thanks!

I smell a hypochondriac. At the beginning of your post it seemed as though you were going to tell us that this Codex Alimentarius was a form of New World Order hell bent on destroying the world. Then you start ranting and raving about vitamins. Who cares!!! As someone else replied it is highly probable that synthetic vitamins are a hindrance rather than a benefit. Just eat your daily quota of fruit, veg and fibre etc and quit your jibber jabbering!

Cyradis

I don't know where you get your information about vitamins being a hinderence. I've worked with them for YEARS giving treatment to people who ask for it. I have never had any bad results and I've cured people of things that the doctors who just percribe whatever crap their told to.

Mainstream doctors tend to try and cure SYMTOMS rather than the root of the problem.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Daddio wrote: »

rofl

I've heard of aspects of this already actualy. Why would the UN promote GM food though?

because you get far more food from gm crops than you do from organic in the same size plot of land... and in case people haven't been noticing, there's a bit of a food shortage in some parts of the world.

subway

whats wrong with gm foods?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

hippies are terrified of science. that's the basic problem the far left has with gm.

subway

Cyradis wrote: »

Mainstream doctors tend to try and cure SYMTOMS rather than the root of the problem.

what are you talking about?
are you opposed to doctors now?

Blisterman

There is absolutely no proof that Genetically modified foods are in any way dangerous to people's health. In fact if there were genetically modified foods back in the time of the Famine, It wouldn't have happened.

subway

Mordeth wrote: »

hippies are terrified of science. that's the basic problem the far left has with gm.

thats what this is all about isnt.
OP did you get this info on a flyer from some crusties at the central bank?

mike65

In fact if there were genetically modified foods back in the time of the Famine, It wouldn't have happened.

Controversial! Some maintain GM means over use of monocrops which are built on the use of "self-destruct" seeds. Hence greater chance of famine rather than less.

Mike.

Cyradis

No! hahah

My friend has been involved in UN politics for some time, he's one of them "must be informed" type of guys! Never shuts up really.

GM crops are sprayed with hazardous chems that are unfit for human consumption. I own a farm and grow Limes, Mangos, Olives among other things, I grown them all organically after working with chems with other people before and researching the chems they use and their effects on the human body. I don't think I can be that confident to **** with nature to be honest.

Cyradis

Here's a paper done by someone I'm very fond of, I admire his work on healthy eating and other things. It's quite in-debt and long, so if you really cared about what you ate, I'd read it.

http://www.cqs.com/50harm.htm

Blisterman

That website also claims that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, something no reputable scientest would believe.
Paranoid Nonsense.

Cyradis

Aha! I've found this lecture about it, might give it a watch....a bit long though....'tis late here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634

Going on the bookmarks!

Lord Oz

Doesn't boards have a conspiracy theories forum?

monkey tennis

You seem to be very confused as to the point of genetically modifying food. 'GM' does not mean that the plants are sprayed with chemicals (they might be, but this is also done with naturally-grown food; with GM, a plant's resistance to infections/blights, possibly even insects could be improved, reducing the need for pesticides etc). Nor does it mean that "the food we eat will be ****" - quite the opposite, in fact (the whole point is to be able to modify the nutrient content and hardiness of a plant).

Cyradis

What's the deal with you people and going on about conspiracy theories? Jeez, it's kind of off-putting. This thing is very true, by the looks of what biko posted, Wikipedia confirm what I've been told.

Wikipedia KNOWS ALL!!! haha

Cyradis

Anyways, I am off to bed, I shall watch that video tomorrow and do some more research on this.

Thanks for help (mostly).

humbert

From the BBC News website...

British Dietetic Association wrote:

It is concerned about patients admitted to hospital suffering liver failure and severe stomach problems after taking high doses of vitamins.


It said in some cases the supplements are preventing people getting the correct treatment for other chronic illness.


Spokeswoman Ursula Arens said consumers should not be greatly affected by the changes.


"About 99% of products will not be affected."

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

mike65 wrote: »

Controversial! Some maintain GM means over use of monocrops which are built on the use of "self-destruct" seeds. Hence greater chance of famine rather than less.

Mike.

well, yes.. this I disagree with strongly. It's a money making scam by the companies that are producing these seeds, and it basically holds a gun to the heads of the small farmers who are dependant on them. Gm technology will be very beneficial, it just all depends on who sees those benefits.

leninbenjamin

i blame the Vogons...

RxQueen

move this thread!! my brain is melting ahhh

builttospill

Cyradis wrote: »

Anyways, I am off to bed, I shall watch that video tomorrow and do some more research on this.

Thanks for help (mostly).

You're off to bed??? At this time? You aren't taking enough vitamins dear boy...

Genghiz Cohen

Never understood why people had a problem with GM foods, if you coukd make food better, why not? You take vitimans, but you wont allow the food you eat to be enriched with nutrients, or grow faster or bigger?

ScumLord

What I really don't like about gm food is the fact that it's copyrighted and if any accidentally gets on your land you can be sued. It makes no sense to make GM food, there's nothing wrong with the food we have. There's plenty of it, it's cheep enough and most of it doesn't get used anyway.

GM stuff is pointless and there's no point in risking our health for something we really don't need.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

It makes no sense to make GM food, there's nothing wrong with the food we have. There's plenty of it, it's cheep enough and most of it doesn't get used anyway.

plenty of it.. for us

but there are currently 7 billion mouths to feed, and more on the way... soon.
worldwide famine is not that unlikely a situation in the coming century.