Best pistol

dsaint1

Hi, first post here and I'm just looking for advice from you guys on a pistol. Whats the most accurate/best quality GBB pistol I can buy? Looking at WA pistols and really like the sound and look of this

http://cgi.ebay.com/Western-Arms-Para-Ordnance-P14-45-Airsoft-Pistol-WA168_W0QQitemZ270114385721QQihZ017QQcategoryZ31685QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Any thoughts/recommendations for a GBB similar would be appreciated.

Cheers !

iceage

I own a we m1911 myself as well as a p226, but I really like tm's new glock 17!!!

o1s1n

dsaint1 wrote: »

Hi, first post here and I'm just looking for advice from you guys on a pistol. Whats the most accurate/best quality GBB pistol I can buy?

Hard question to answer that. A lot of people think the most reliable GBB on the market at the moment is the KSC G19 (Also known as the KWA G19)

dsaint1 wrote: »

Looking at WA pistols and really like the sound and look of this

http://cgi.ebay.com/Western-Arms-Para-Ordnance-P14-45-Airsoft-Pistol-WA168_W0QQitemZ270114385721QQihZ017QQcategoryZ31685QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Any thoughts/recommendations for a GBB similar would be appreciated.

Cheers !

It's nice looking but very expensive. Plastic too as far as I know. You'd probably get just as much enjoyment from the WE 1911. It's half the price, comes with two mags and is full metal. The thing is a beauty.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=1729

Plus www.eirsoft.ie already stocks them in Ireland. So no importing.
(Actually...why the hell don't I own one yet?!)

NakedDex

G19's are the new black.


I like them but I prefer the G23. I have a major grá lately on a P226

o1s1n

NakedDex wrote: »

G19's are the new black.


I like them but I prefer the G23. I have a major grá lately on a P226

The g23 is a g19 modified to fire .40! It looks virtually identical in appearance

zero19

Ah you guys got it all wrong, KSC USP 45 all the way! -waits for smart arse comments-

iceage

ONe mag if I@m corrct guys until further notice, check with Shiva at www.eirsoft.ie

o1s1n

iceage wrote: »

ONe mag if I@m corrct guys until further notice, check with Shiva at www.eirsoft.ie

The WE 1911 comes with two mags as it suffers from cool down a bit. There's two mags in the pic up on his site...?

iceage

o1s1n wrote: »

Hard question to answer that. A lot of people think the most reliable GBB on the market at the moment is the KSC G19 (Also known as the KWA G19)



It's nice looking but very expensive. Plastic too as far as I know. You'd probably get just as much enjoyment from the WE 1911. It's half the price, comes with two mags and is full metal. The thing is a beauty.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=1729

Plus www.eirsoft.ie already stocks them in Ireland. So no importing.
(Actually...why the hell don't I own one yet?!)

check again, you'll find i'm correct.

http://www.eirsoft.ie/store/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=20

kdouglas

G19 is definitely nice, its a bit hard to say what the best pistol is, if i were you id pick which style i like best and then find out which make/model is the best for that type

if you like glocks then the g19 is great, but if you dont then your not gonna get one just because they are reliable

iceage

zero19 wrote: »

Ah you guys got it all wrong, KSC USP 45 all the way! -waits for smart arse comments-

now theres apiece i like, but ksc have some issues I believe..

bullets

iceage wrote: »

ONe mag if I@m corrct guys until further notice, check with Shiva at www.eirsoft.ie

Mine came with two when I bought it at T4BB show.
I had seen Shiva had mention his stock temperorly only had the 1mag
so was pleasantly surprised when I opened the box.

~B

iceage

I'm covering Uncle Shiva ass. i received one several weeks ago with only one mag..shiva said there was suply issue with the second mag. figures eh, as the site states, spoke to him recently and he says i'll have my no.2 in the post withina day or two, so if antone is lookin at one, drop Shiva a line to make sure.:)

AirsoftEire.com

iceage wrote: »

now theres apiece i like, but ksc have some issues I believe..

They have a very sensitive hop-up so you have to get it just right. But once you do, its one of the best GBBs you can get. 315fps with green gas out of the box. Far better looking than a Glock too.

zero19

Trust me it's freakin sweet in the words of peter griffin, and yep setting up the hop up takes a bit of time but once you sort that it's awesome

NakedDex

o1s1n wrote: »

The g23 is a g19 modified to fire .40! It looks virtually identical in appearance

True, but they're slightly larger and they're available in two-tone. TWO-TONE!!!

JonAnderton

TM Glock 17: Awesome looking (Those night sights make it) and one of the most accurate pistols I've ever fired. DAO trigger. All plastic construction but thats a minor detail. Rail mounts for tac illuminators, etc. Easy to operate. Very accurate replica.

KSC Glock 17: Detail and operation as above. Accuracy also very good.

KWA USP Compact: Very powerful and accurate. SA/DA action. Good markings. Ergonomic and easy to shoot. Has a front rail but not suitable for most RIS/Picatinny systems as no opening to slide accessories on to or grooves to lock them in place. DAO wuith decocking/safety lever as per real steel.

KJ Works Sig Sauer P229: Powerful pistol. SA/DA action with decocking lever. Easy to operate with all the levers being in thumbs reach (for righties). Rail for attachments such as tactical illuminators, etc comes in very handy. Very ergonomic.

KJ Works Sig Sauer: As above but a larger framed pistol. Be aware magazines for the two sigs are not interchangable.

At the end of the day, its a matter of personal choice and preferance.. What feels good in the hand, do you want single action or single action/double action or Double action only. Are external safties important? What holster and carriage style are you considering? Mag capacity important?. Is it only going to be used as a backup piece only used in emergencies so a smaller framed pistol would suit, saya Glock 19 over a Glock 17. Or would a Glock 30's small size suit even better. Do you want to add a Tac light to the front end so are rails important. I could go on but I'm beginning to bore myself...

The above may seem a little off the subject but consider that accuracy and reliabilty has a lot to do with how the shooter handles and uses the pistol. for example, a double action only gun will have a longer trigger pull allowing more chance of snatching whereby a single action or SA/DA will allow for a shorter trigger pull. If you're going to use it as a secondary where you may need to draw it fast to engage a subject quickly, maybe a SA/DA with the hammer cocked would be better. But that brings issues with the inital trigger pull being heavier than the follow up pull again affecting accuracy...

Also, when changing mags and the likes, the amount you grip shifts when operating the buttons and levers will affect you shooting grip for the follow up shots and how fast you can reload.

Obviously a longer barrel will increase accuracy more than a shorter barrell

But in the end, remember that this is airsoft and sometimes them BB's have a mind of their own once they leave the barrell...

iceage

AAHH my old mate jonArderton.. now guys, if theres anyone who knows his pistolla's its this fella, give the man some room guys....

dsaint1

Hey guys thanks for all the replies.... I love the look of the WA and the WE 1911 so want to buy something similar and with metal not plastic. The reviews on the WE 1911 seem to be v good ..tnx o1s1n ! Any other models I should look at? Dont mind spending twice as much as long as I get something that is better quality/more accurate or will I be paying purely for styling/brand ?

Thanks again !

iceage

RIGHT!!!! night lads i'm off to bed>>>>>>>>:D

dsaint1

BTW I wont be using it for games...no need for add ons or anything. I just want a gun that is as close to look/feel/ and as accurate as an airsoft pistol can be ..and looks like a 1911 pistol. Thanks for all that info JAnderton... much appreciated...

Masada

check this one out.,
http://www.stealthstudios.co.uk/catman/Catmans_hitman-v2.asp

Captain Chaos

o1s1n wrote: »

Hard question to answer that. A lot of people think the most reliable GBB on the market at the moment is the KSC G19 (Also known as the KWA G19)

I have a KSC Glock 17 and 18C, they are different to the KWAs. KWA don't offer a metal slide version and they don't have the correct trigger.

Of the 4 pistols I own, KJW P226, KSC Glock 17,18C and USP.45 all metal slide versions, the P226 is the best performer, most reliable, and comfortable in the hand the way the grips are moulded.

Stercus Accidit

Yeah the single mag with the we1911 was only one batch, the latest stock all come with two mags.

And yes they're class!

AirsoftEire.com

dsaint1 wrote: »

BTW I wont be using it for games...no need for add ons or anything. I just want a gun that is as close to look/feel/ and as accurate as an airsoft pistol can be ..and looks like a 1911 pistol. Thanks for all that info JAnderton... much appreciated...

Well, another 1911 with metal construction would be the KSC m1911a1.

Fully authentic engravings and metal slide.
Steve

zero19

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

Well, another 1911 with metal construction would be the KSC m1911a1.

Fully authentic engravings and metal slide.
Steve

I'm stuck between that and the KSC desert eagle myself, i don't know which i want. I have the USP as my main sidearm so next purchase is just cos i'm an addict lol :rolleyes:

kdouglas

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

Well, another 1911 with metal construction would be the KSC m1911a1

Fully authentic engravings and metal slide.
Steve

AirsoftEire: i've had a complaint about this post, your bordering on shilling, if you want to engage in a discussion then please feel free to do so, however i ask that you refrain from posting links to your products, the other retailers on here dont do it and neither should you

0ubliette

Get a deagle..i did!
oh hells yeah

AirsoftEire.com

kdouglas wrote: »

AirsoftEire: i've had a complaint about this post, your bordering on shilling, if you want to engage in a discussion then please feel free to do so, however i ask that you refrain from posting links to your products, the other retailers on here dont do it and neither should you

I resent that kdouglas, are we not allowed participate in any discussion regarding anything we sell? Would it have been acceptable to link to the KSC 1911 to a different site? I bet you would still have given out about that. He was looking for suggestions and I gave him one.

If you're going to complain about every single post we make regarding something we happen to have in our stock, thats not in our own thread, we may aswell never post again. That wasn't a cheap shot at getting a sale, it was additional information for someone looking to make up their mind, showing was was out there.

And there is no need to publically state your issue, there is a PM function.

Duley noted, no more links.

Cuddlesworth

Since I'm the person who complained maybe I should answer this.

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

I resent that kdouglas, are we not allowed participate in any discussion regarding anything we sell? Would it have been acceptable to link to the KSC 1911 to a different site? I bet you would still have given out about that. He was looking for suggestions and I gave him one.

The disscussion was about pistols, not about what you sell. Had the pistol you linked to been posted up by another user with a link to your site I would have no issue with it. Had it been posted up with a link to another site by another user and you had posted that you sell it, I would not have a problem with it. Instead you brought the pistol into the discussion pimping your own wares. You are not entitled to do this, due to the fact that you cannot provide a unbiased opinion.

Futhermore, when you post up link to something you sell on your site, you are essentially shilling your own product. If you want to advertise, pay for it like everybody else. If this was anyother forum on boards your account and ip would have been sitebanned immedietley. Your thread is the exception to the rule, not the forum itself.

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

If you're going to complain about every single post we make regarding something we happen to have in our stock, thats not in our own thread, we may aswell never post again.

Thats the thing, when you started selling Airsoft rifles and started a thread on boards you removed most of your rights to stating your opinions. Look at Shivas posts carefully, if somebody else mentions a product he sells as a recommandation he will comment on it. But you don't see him linking to everything on his site.

I have bought from you and will more then likely do it again. I will recomend you to people. But I think its wrong that on a public forum you can tell people to buy your wares. Think of the Sony forum shills scandle a few years back, on a smaller scale.

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

That wasn't a cheap shot at getting a sale, it was additional information for someone looking to make up their mind, showing was was out there.

Even if you are being honest, it still doesnt matter.

o1s1n

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

I resent that kdouglas, are we not allowed participate in any discussion regarding anything we sell? Would it have been acceptable to link to the KSC 1911 to a different site? I bet you would still have given out about that. He was looking for suggestions and I gave him one.

If you're going to complain about every single post we make regarding something we happen to have in our stock, thats not in our own thread, we may aswell never post again. That wasn't a cheap shot at getting a sale, it was additional information for someone looking to make up their mind, showing was was out there.

And there is no need to publically state your issue, there is a PM function.

Duley noted, no more links.

You resent that? It's not a personal attack. It's how the forum works.

There is a reason to publically state it. There are other businesses on here too which are abiding by the rules. If one comes along and flouts them, others may think it's 'unfair'. Therefore it must be done publically so everyone can see that you're all being treated equally.

Retailers have been given their own threads. Why? To discuss items they have in stock. This is meant to stop them posting suggestions about their stock and links to it in other threads as that would be a form of shilling. If every retailer did that, the forum would be an advertising free for all. Which is obviously not what boards.ie is about and is against the rules.

It happened in the past and has since been sorted out. The new system works well, other retailers and businesses are sticking to it and we would appreciate it if you would too.

Again, I know you were just trying to help. But rulez is rulez.

Anyway, back on topic.

AirsoftEire.com

Like stated, the comment on the links is duley noted.
However other retailers constantly talk about products they sell in threads outside of their own. Sure, they don't link to them and like I said, it won't happen again. As for an unbiased view, I am an airsoft retailer, so you can pretty much take it for granted that I know my guns, if you can't trust a retailers opinion, who can you trust? :
Steve

o1s1n

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

However other retailers constantly talk about products they sell in threads outside of their own.

that's a pretty broad statement and I'm sure some of the retailers or businesses on here who conduct themselves accordingly wouldn't appreciate it. The only other such instances I can remember were dealed with pretty harshly.

AirsoftEire.com wrote:

As for an unbiased view, I am an airsoft retailer, so you can pretty much take it for granted that I know my guns, if you can't trust a retailers opinion, who can you trust? :
Steve

That actually makes no sense. You can trust a retailer to know about their stock, but no matter how honest they are, you can't trust them not to have a biased view toward it. Of course they will. They're trying to sell the damn stuff!

Anyway...back to the topic at hand. The best pistol.

I'm still rooting for the G19 at the moment

zero19

Join the darkside of the KSC USP oisin... we have cake...

N.O.I.P.

Best pistol hmmm

I'm gonna have to go with an KSC STI Eagle 6 although I've never actually seen held or fired it, hell I can't even find a store that has it in stock

AirsoftEire.com

o1s1n wrote: »

that's a pretty broad statement and I'm sure some of the retailers or businesses on here who conduct themselves accordingly wouldn't appreciate it. The only other such instances I can remember were dealed with pretty harshly.

That actually makes no sense. You can trust a retailer to know about their stock, but no matter how honest they are, you can't trust them not to have a biased view toward it. Of course they will. They're trying to sell the damn stuff!

Anyway...back to the topic at hand. The best pistol.

I'm still rooting for the G19 at the moment

I'm not going to reply for fear of starting an argument.
No more links, all comments noted and lets move on.
Steve

Cuddlesworth

I can't believe nobody mentioned the M9's. I have a TM m9 Tactical Master, even though its ABS plastic it looks great. And it should take the knocking around that pistols get rather then a full metal one.

zero19

The sti is CO2 powered is it?

zero19

I'm a real handgun guy, i like em so much more than AEG's dunno why...Next on my list is a TM as i don't own any

Masada

krazy_8s wrote: »

I can't believe nobody mentioned the M9's. I have a TM m9 Tactical Master, even though its ABS plastic it looks great. And it should take the knocking around that pistols get rather then a full metal one.

yeah wheres all the M9 fans? I love the look of the M9s, except maybe parts arnt as common as some of the other pistols,
Glock 19, defo, (glock anything really):D
USP/SIG, :yuck:

Cuddlesworth

vtec wrote: »

yeah wheres all the M9 fans? I love the look of the M9s, except maybe parts arnt as common as some of the other pistols,
Glock 19, defo, (glock anything really):D
USP/SIG, :yuck:

I don't suppose your 18, blonde, good looking and female?

Masada

Sorry, but ill let ya know if i go for the operation.,



PMSL.,:D

[--SC(+)PE--]

Hfc Beretta m190. case closed! *slams hammer*

If ya do a search on ASCUK or arnies for "best pistol" legendary pistol" or "best metal pistol" etc it will pop up time and time and time again.

I'm still rooting for the G19 at the moment

:rolleyes: ignores Oisin's opinion completely

Spitfire666

glock 18c or we 1911 (any of them)

Genghiz Cohen

USP compact, WA infinity 5/6", TMP (it's still a pistol!!)
ummmmmmmmmmmm......
Sig p226 or 2009, both pretty cool.
ummmmmm..... I dunno..... anything but a Deagle I suppose.

dsaint1

Well I did a bit more looking around and going by the recommendations and advice I've received from everyone in here I placed an order for an EAC SIG P226 full metal custom version.

Changed my mind about the 1911 after I saw a P226 in the flesh. Just hope it performs as well as it looks now !

Anyway, thanks again for all the advice

zero19

Nice choice, may pick up one myself at some stage

cherubaul

Categorically the metal slided KSC G34 is the best airsoft pistol on the market. Fires at the joule, has a seven inch barrel, excellent range better than any of the 20 or so odd GBBs that Myself and my mate have we're talking AEG range here. very good sights, reliable magazines that just wont leak, works well in cool conditions, very strong blowback and of course a lighter trigger assembly than the other glocks as its based on the competition model. all in all its a fantastic GBB and blows the competition out of the water.

Masada

cherubaul wrote: »

Categorically the metal slided KSC G34 is the best airsoft pistol on the market. Fires at the joule, has a seven inch barrel, excellent range better than any of the 20 or so odd GBBs that Myself and my mate have we're talking AEG range here. very good sights, reliable magazines that just wont leak, works well in cool conditions, very strong blowback and of course a lighter trigger assembly than the other glocks as its based on the competition model. all in all its a fantastic GBB and blows the competition out of the water.

that sounds good, im after a highpowered pistol for a little project im doing, are there any other pistols anyone would reccomend with near 1J power?
and is the KSC G34 available from any of the irish retailers?

zero19

KSC USP fires at 315FPS

Masada

zero19 wrote: »

KSC USP fires at 315FPS

is it on the irish sites? and is it accurate/reliable?

thanks