CM028 CYMA AK-47 discussion

Fiach Dubh

Nice review

Just one thing though, you sure about the selector settings? AK models are safe, auto, semi from the top down.

nonex

sorry for my mis type
AK models are safe, auto, semi from the top down.

Shigsy

Fiach Dubh wrote:

Nice review

Just one thing though, you sure about the selector settings? AK models are safe, auto, semi from the top down.

The AK comes in multiple variants and is almost always Auto, Semi, Safe from top down but the Romanian variant (along with others) has Semi at the top, followed by Auto and Safe.

Fiach Dubh

Is this a late version Romanian AK you are talking about? All the info I've found says the Romanian AK operation is identical to it's Soviet counterpart. The only other reference I found was to the AKM which has auto, semi, 3-shot burst function but I can't get a list of the selector order for it.

From Wiki (confirmed on AK47.net);

Romanian AK47

The initial Romanian copies of the AK-47 were faithful copies of the Soviet milled Type 3 receiver (See AK-47, Receiver development history). When Romania switched to stamped receivers, following the advances of the USSR with the AKM, the new rifle was designated the AIM. The Soviet AKM and AKMS are distinguished only by an underfolding stock, and the Romanian AIM and AIMS, respectively, follow this convention. The only further distinction is a forward handgrip on each model. The forward pistol-grip on the AIMS differs in that it curves backwards, allowing the underfolding stock to be completely retracted.

Operating cycle

To fire, the operator inserts a loaded magazine, moves the selector lever to the lowest position, pulls back and releases the charging handle, and then pulls the trigger. In this setting, the gun fires once requiring the trigger be released and depressed again for the next shot until the magazine is exhausted. With the selector in the middle position, the rifle continues to fire, automatically cycling fresh rounds into the chamber, until the magazine is exhausted or pressure is released from the trigger.

I know civilian model AK's only have semi capability so their setting is Safe, semi. If you have a link to a website with a non standard AK model design I'd love to see it. I'm crazy about all things AK

nonex

i'am sorry for the mistake on that review as i'am reviewing 6 models you have to make one
this model AK selector pattern is safe, auto, semi from the top down.

Fiach Dubh

No problem Nonex, I was directing my last post to Shigsy I just thought you may have actually gotten a 028 with a screwed up selector, would have been interesting to have an AK that goes to semi first

Shigsy

I was pretty sure the Romanian AK model selector was safe, semi then auto from top to bottom. Had a quick look and came across this article. It's about an airsoft AK but it references the real Romanian Ak selector switch...

"The Double Eagle M86 AK-47 is modeled after a Romanian made AK-47 variant, so the first thing you will notice is the difference in selector pattern from the traditional AK. One click down from safety is semi-automatic for controlled, accurate shots. Drop the selector down another click to full auto and at the squeeze of the trigger the M86 fires 13 shots in under a second."

Source: http://www.airsoftworthy.com/double-eagle-m86-ak47-49/

Fiach Dubh

Thanks for the link, interesting alright. It must be a later model Romanian AK47. I'll keep checking for more references to it. You've peeked my curiosity now

Waylander24

Thats a nice looking AK. I prefer AKs with a folding stock rather than a fixed one. Is that AK compatible with lo-cap mags? If so which one?

o1s1n

Just had a go of three different versions of this AK. One had a collapsible stock. All very solid. I was very impressed. The finish on the wood furniture is excellent. Obviously the rate of fire isnt as high as a TM. The mags you get with them aren't the best. (but seem to be interchangeable with TM so that's alright) I'm not sure about the hop ups on them. But for the price, they're excellent.

I'd really reccomend one of these to a beginner who's interested but not wanting to spend hundreds in case they dont like it. Or if you're someone like me who does like the AK, but not enough to go and spend a fortune on a TM version.

Fiach Dubh

Waylander24 wrote:

Thats a nice looking AK. I prefer AKs with a folding stock rather than a fixed one. Is that AK compatible with lo-cap mags? If so which one?

TM and CYMA AK's will take Star 30 round low-caps and 105 round mid caps. I think UTG AK's will take them too but I hear UTG aren't the best.

Spitfire666

I have the classic army slr on which this is based. I've the all black solid fixed stock version. the mags are the same. Im actualy gonna get a box of mid cap mags for it from star as mentioned above.

Waylander24

Fiach Dubh wrote:

TM and CYMA AK's will take Star 30 round low-caps and 105 round mid caps. I think UTG AK's will take them too but I hear UTG aren't the best.

Thanks for the help.

Fiach Dubh

Always happy to assist getting more AK's onto the field comrade

Spitfire666

Just ordered a box of star mid-cap mags for the AK so it'll be a weapon that'll get more use in future.

o1s1n

You and your constant supply of new stuff.

I hate you :P

Just ordered a rifle bag for the Famas. Hope it gets here sometime in the next month.

Spitfire666

That wasnt all i ordered, i ordered a box of mp5 mids too so now i MUST get a pair of mp5k's, $300 for a pair from ehobby so not bad.
Also got around to ordering a marpat boonie and a balaklava for good messure.

o1s1n

All we need now is to get good at the sport

...

And a damn site down south!

Spitfire666

All we need now is to get good at the sport



Speak for yourself

o1s1n

Ah sorry I forgot, you're an old hand at it now :rolleyes:

In my defense, I did get a kill before I was shot on my first go. Quite proud of that, was I. Poor chap got riddled. Damn adrenaline.

Spitfire666

LOL yeah, was proud of myself too my first game. i did have the advantage of the fastest rate of fire there using the famas and all but hey. such is life.

o1s1n

I really do love that about the Famas. It may be a big ugly lump of plastic. But jesus, can it fire. It sounded faster then most AEGs there.

Quite looking forward to getting to use it again. This time without a bottle of bbs rattling around in my pocket to fill up my high cap every few min.

Spitfire666

whys that? you gonna bring more then one hi-cap or more mid caps?

It probly is the fastest thing that was there. its faster then most.

the hollow plasticy feel is the only thing stopping me getting one of those too.

o1s1n

Last time I had one high cap and one mid cap. It has such a high rate of fire that it blasts through the mid in a few seconds.

I'm after buying another high cap. So hopefully two highs and one mid should do me without having to reload.

The hollow plastic feel I find does diminish quite a bit when you put the battery in. And tape up the handle. I have yet to line the battery compartment to stop the foregrip creak though. Keep forgetting to buy tape.

But yeah, feel wise, it doesn't really come close to some of the other AEGs. Ah well, maybe someday there'll be a full metal kit released. *fingers crossed*

Spitfire666

if classic army make a fa-mas id say it'll be metal but i doubt they will if they havn't already.

o1s1n

I know its lack of production in the airsoft world is a bit odd. I know most people seem to want m4's and Heckler stuff, but there ARE Famas appreciators out there.

What makes it even weirder is the fact that it was Marui's first gun.

Maybe I'll just have to find an engineering shop somewhere and construct one myself

Spitfire666

im not realy supprised some how at mauri macking it. there whole image seems to be a kinda of video game approach and with Metal Gear Solid being HUGE over there and it being a main weapon in it, it just seems normal.


Don't get me wrong, it may have nothing to do with video games and i know other makes are rom the same place but it COULD be a reason.

o1s1n

The TM Famas dates much further back then Metal Gear Solid. It features in the 1991 Marui Man Advert. They have it over on youtube. Worth checking out if you have a decent connection.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjdP4pQFHoY

Metal gear solid should have actually resulted in an updated remake of the gun. strange that it didnt. Pity that it didnt!

Spitfire666

metal gear solid on the playstation isnt the first of the metal gear solid games though, it originaly came out on the nes in '87

o1s1n

Ah yes, they were on the nes.

but i meant the whole Famas era. Didnt start till ps1.

o1s1n

http://www.nesfiles.com/NES/Metal_Gear/Metal_Gear_boxfront.jpg

Looks like some form of Mac with loads of stuff on it!

Ah Solid Snake, a man with a quality taste in arms.

Spitfire666

This is what your looking at :

http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/mg_history/p2_01.html

o1s1n

Indeed I know. I've been meaning to get a copy for my Nes. Was no European release though. So It'll have to come from the states.

See, that game you're talking about there is Metal GEAR.

Metal gear solid starts on the playstation 1. Same character. New incarnation. New guns. New look. the word "solid" attached onto the end of the title. :P

Spitfire666

same difference.

Have you tried looking for an emulator and downloading it as a rom?

o1s1n

Yeah I have it. But another one of my expensive hobbies is collecting old consoles and games. I have quite a lot. Something about playing it on the original console that roms just cant replicate

Sometimes a game I want will come up, there'll be a gun I want, and an Animation cel I want too. Damn, for someone with no money, I sure know how to spend it

Spitfire666

i get ya,

Harekin

Me too...

o1s1n

Anyway, back on topic...either of you two interested in the Cm028?

Spitfire666

link or pic?

o1s1n

It's what this thread is originally about! hah, shows how off topic we got. Theres a pic of the retractable stock version on the first page.

I had a go of them the other day. They seemed like the best built out of all the clones.

Spitfire666

I know, it was a joke....

Hmmm, I just got a very nice phone call, seems somebody found a bunch of AK’s and a spiffy new rifle in a field and I get to have them…..

o1s1n

hmm. my sarcasm detector seems to not be working.

Well the owner of those rifles will be pretty displeased if he doesn't get them back

Actually I really hope he sorts out that business and gets it going. He has a link to the manufacturer. Wasn't just buying them from gunners.

Could be our source for lots of cheap clones.

Spitfire666

could be, i doubt he will get the over powerd rifle back in which case i might, not likely. i like to see what sort of stuff he can bring in, and then buy most of it.

o1s1n

You and your habbit

How many you have now in total?

Spitfire666

5 and 2 will be ordered next week along with a possible 2 others.


The 2 mp5ks only count as one realy as they will only be for duel weilding because im sick of pistols.
im thinkin of getting a maruzen sawn off shotgun just to see what its like.

o1s1n

Spitfire666 wrote:

5 and 2 will be ordered next week along with a possible 2 others.


The 2 mp5ks only count as one realy as they will only be for duel weilding because im sick of pistols.
im thinkin of getting a maruzen sawn off shotgun just to see what its like.

I bet you wish you had more then two arms

o1s1n

LIGHTNING wrote:

An interesting footnote about the boxart for the nes version it was modelled on Michael Biehn from Terminator 1. If you recall he has the same pose in the film.As for the weapons choice I`ll leave that up to the proper agent, Sam Fisher FTW!

Interesting, was unaware of this one. Reminds me of the American cover for Contra *borrowing* the setup of the Predator poster.

Spitfire666

cant help but think that that contra games characters are based on both action stars of the time, arnie and stalone

o1s1n

Yeah.
Pain in the arse the way we didnt get that over here. No, they decide to take the main characters out, replace them with robots and rename it Probotector.


what the hell...?

Bizarre.

Spitfire666

o1s1n wrote:

Yeah.
.....No, they decide to take the main characters out, replace them with robots and rename it Probotector........

Sound kinky.



Right im unwell so im off to bed. nite

o1s1n

night! Bet you have dreams of skirmishing. Sometimes I do. It worries me a little :eek: