Irish Masters Buy In ?

JP Poker

I am holding the Irish Masters next May bank holiday weekend.

The game was orginally planned to be a €1500 buy in with 25k starting stack and 90 min blind levels. It has been suggested to reduce the buy in to €1000 (if i do the starting stack will be reduce to 20k, blinds will remain at 90 mins).

Just looking for your views.

Ollieboy

I pursume this includes all the levels starting at 25/50 etc with antes kicking in at 100/200 or 150/300 level?

5starpool

For purely selfish reasons I said 1k Jp. It means there is a better chance I will play or get a ticket if it is 1k. You will be able to give out 50% more tickets, so from a marketing and future promotion point of view, you should get more runners.

ollyk1

Hey JP,

Personally speaking I wouldn't buyin for €1,000 or €1,500.

HOWEVER I would play a €1k ticket if I won one or acquired one on the cheap (or gave up a slice of my action and paid cash). I couldn't see myself playing a €1,500 game as it's just too much for me (even if I won a ticket at €1.5k I'd sell it).

Just one opinion.

As for the stack sizes I don't really mind - you'll run a great show either way so a 25k or 20k stack with 90 minute levels (:eek:) will be more than enough time for me to donk myself out.

JP Poker

Ollieboy wrote: »

I pursume this includes all the levels starting at 25/50 etc with antes kicking in at 100/200 or 150/300 level?

Yes all the levels.

Repeat 100-200 with 25 ante

carfax

I voted for the €1,500 option but after thinking about it and seeing the current standings of the poll I would change it to €1,000. Simply because it will attract a bigger field JP.

ditpoker

5starpool wrote: »

For purely selfish reasons I said 1k Jp. It means there is a better chance I will play or get a ticket if it is 1k. You will be able to give out 50% more tickets, so from a marketing and future promotion point of view, you should get more runners.

this sums it up for me. 99% sure i wont be playing a 1k game anyway but i'd try a sat or two. wouldnt bother with a 1500.

also now i think the GJP deep stack game is 1500... so 1000 makes yours a bit different then i guess.

i'd say make it 1k!

thechamp87

5starpool wrote: »

For purely selfish reasons I said 1k Jp. It means there is a better chance I will play or get a ticket if it is 1k. You will be able to give out 50% more tickets, so from a marketing and future promotion point of view, you should get more runners.

Agree with all the above

JP Poker

It seems the general consensus is going for the €1k game.

Its still early days with only 20 votes in so far. I’ll leave this run until Tuesday midnight before I decide.

Thanks for the input

Lplated

I voted for the 1K option too - lot of the big tournaments have increased their buy in this year (EPT, Irish Open etc..), put them completely out of reach of average players.

1K is a good size buy in, and it should be easier to get numbers for one table satelites etc (i.e. more people likely to enter €100 satellite etc).

I think from a business perspective the more people you get in the better (easier to fill cash tables, run side events etc) - and 1k will achieve that for you where as 1.5k excludes too many.

Good luck with it.

Ollieboy

I wont charge a consultancy fee here jp...lol

LuckyLloyd

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califano

3rd option €500 buy-in. I dont find any need for a higher starting stack than 10k in a tournament ever. 10k starting stack is similar to 20k it just cuts to the chase quicker.

Russh

I'd vote for a 1k buy in JP...might help increase numbers.....

RoundTower

If there's such a landslide in favour of e1000 maybe e700 would be even better?

I'm not generally in favour of trying to please most of the people all of the time, but if this is a representative sample of the people who will be playing in it, e700 would almost certainly be even more popular.

kincsem

charity fatigue ....... when numerous charitable causes call me, constantly asking me to donate money I cannot afford to give.

So many tourneys at €1k+

a-k-47

RoundTower wrote: »

If there's such a landslide in favour of e1000 maybe e700 would be even better?

I'm not generally in favour of trying to please most of the people all of the time, but if this is a representative sample of the people who will be playing in it, e700 would almost certainly be even more popular.

Agreed. Big tourny buyins are getting bigger every year and not our bankrolls.

HiCloy

RoundTower wrote: »

If there's such a landslide in favour of e1000 maybe e700 would be even better?

I'm not generally in favour of trying to please most of the people all of the time, but if this is a representative sample of the people who will be playing in it, e700 would almost certainly be even more popular.

Agree with ^^. I voted for 1k but 500/750 would be even better

murph01

Won my ticket for this at the ipo for 20 quid so im not too bothered either way.
Id reckon you get a lot more runners for the 1k option jp.
Have you thought of side events for this? Maybe a 500 quid side event to keep all happy.
Guaranteed to be a great tourney either way.

JP Poker

murph01 wrote: »

Won my ticket for this at the ipo for 20 quid so im not too bothered either way.
Id reckon you get a lot more runners for the 1k option jp.
Have you thought of side events for this? Maybe a 500 quid side event to keep all happy.
Guaranteed to be a great tourney either way.

The side events are
€500 NLHE 15k Starting Stack, 60 Min Blinds
€250 PLO (€25 Scalps), 10k Starting Stack, 40 Min Blinds
€150 NLHE 7k Starting Stack, 30 Min Blinds
€150 NLHE Triple Shoot Out, 7k Starting Stack, 30 Min Blinds
€100 NLHE (€10 Scalps) 6k Starting Stacks, 20 Min Blinds

JP Poker

HiCloy wrote: »

Agree with ^^. I voted for 1k but 500/750 would be even better

I will consider the €750 option

Jesus Wept

Nice side events.

green123

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055180297

the ad for titan was probably the final straw

carfax

JP Poker wrote: »

The side events are
€500 NLHE 15k Starting Stack, 60 Min Blinds
€250 PLO (€25 Scalps), 10k Starting Stack, 40 Min Blinds
€150 NLHE 7k Starting Stack, 30 Min Blinds
€150 NLHE Triple Shoot Out, 7k Starting Stack, 30 Min Blinds
€100 NLHE (€10 Scalps) 6k Starting Stacks, 20 Min Blinds

This is going to be a brilliant festival.

Flushdraw

JP Poker wrote: »

The side events are
€500 NLHE 15k Starting Stack, 60 Min Blinds
€250 PLO (€25 Scalps), 10k Starting Stack, 40 Min Blinds
€150 NLHE 7k Starting Stack, 30 Min Blinds
€150 NLHE Triple Shoot Out, 7k Starting Stack, 30 Min Blinds
€100 NLHE (€10 Scalps) 6k Starting Stacks, 20 Min Blinds

JP,

Thats some cracking festival action and plenty of games to whet peoples appetites! I think however, its going to take away from your main event. I'd probably play 1k worth of these side games, rather than the main event myself. Looking forward to it though mate.

Ollieboy

Flushdraw wrote: »

JP,

Thats some cracking festival action and plenty of games to whet peoples appetites! I think however, its going to take away from your main event. I'd probably play 1k worth of these side games, rather than the main event myself. Looking forward to it though mate.

have to agree with this statement. The 500 event is too good, people will opt for that instead of the 1k. Happen this week in the Fitz

Goodluck2me

get rid of 500 and 250 game imo and replace with 350 game with 10K 45mins.

JP Poker

Ollieboy wrote: »

have to agree with this statement. The 500 event is too good, people will opt for that instead of the 1k. Happen this week in the Fitz

Hi Ollie,

Firstly thanks for your input on this, i think numbers will certainly be up as a result of this thread.

I have been speaking to alot of players over the last few days, and the general consensus seems to be that there is alot more of these festivals and the buy in has increased so much so that they have become out of reach of the masses.

I will be finalising details of the venue in the next few days (hopefully) and will get started with tour dates and venues.

I will be making a few changes to the festival. So as to make it more affordable.

The Main Event as it stand will be no more than €750
Supporting Tournament €350 - €400

valor

god at least 1k

Hawk Eye

valor wrote: »

god at least 1k

Yeah but I think the 750-800 euro option would generate the biggest prizepool.

Russh

JP Poker wrote: »

Hi Ollie,

Firstly thanks for your input on this, i think numbers will certainly be up as a result of this thread.

I have been speaking to alot of players over the last few days, and the general consensus seems to be that there is alot more of these festivals and the buy in has increased so much so that they have become out of reach of the masses.

I will be finalising details of the venue in the next few days (hopefully) and will get started with tour dates and venues.

I will be making a few changes to the festival. So as to make it more affordable.

The Main Event as it stand will be no more than €750
Supporting Tournament €350 - €400

JP...Not sure if your going the right way with this...I think a 1k main event would be just right...It will generate a bigger prizepool and thus may attract players from outside of the country.....key to getting numbers will be a good advertising drive (see BigSlick)....

The whole festival looks like it will be excellent...great side events....

fabsoul

JP. 750 for the main event will get more player. there is too many events going
for a bigger buyin. which is bad just look at the dublin EPT.

Goodluck2me

Russh wrote: »

JP...Not sure if your going the right way with this...I think a 1k main event would be just right...It will generate a bigger prizepool and thus may attract players from outside of the country.....key to getting numbers will be a good advertising drive (see BigSlick)....

The whole festival looks like it will be excellent...great side events....

I dont think attracting players from abroad is the key here, it is accessability imo. Look at the IPO and APAT tournaments which have low buyins and people travel to them.

Make sure there are plenty feeders and satellites and advertising FM 104 maybe, huge poster drive etc.

Just seen the €250 game was an Omaha scalps game, very nice! maybe get an odd feeder into this too, i`d love to see it get loads of numbers too.

5starpool

I agree that loads of promotion in advance is the key as is shown by the 350 player sell out of the Waterford event this weekend. €1k would be fine I think, but if you decide 750 then I'm sure with the right organisation around it you will have a success on your hands anyhow.