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Calzaghe's a muppet! imo
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08-11-2007 10:55am#1
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Hopkins is 42 and will still tear joe apart, he's brash cocky and lacks technique, he's a tough lad but by no means 1 of the best ever as people are trying to say-he's only beaten lacy and kessler and is going on about hopkins?
Are you crazy? Joe Calzaghe lacks technique in your opinion? That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time and to be honest I can`t take any of your points seriously if you really think that.
So your problem is that one fighter is talking trash about another fighter before a possible fight... eh welcome to boxing!
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i'm not slagging off hopkins i'm just amazed how you think he is so superior to joe come on two class boxers but in their primes or even now i really can't see hopkins beaten joe up like you stupidy think. You say he have no techquice how did he win three aba's at three different weights your taking bull get off your high horse and admit it joe is a nice nice have you ver heard him bad mouth much.
You's guys should give it a rest even if he does beat hopkins now he still gets no credit and lads don't even tell me hopkins was such a big name before he beat keith holmes and ternidad cause he wasn't, not saying he wasn't vry good but thats when people said this guy is special why can't yous see it's the same here with joe. 0 -
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I don't think anyone is NOT giving Joe credit.
WE are simply, well I for one, and I think Paul agrees with me when I
basically said that Joe beating HOP is nothing special and will not
elevate him to greater heights.
Joe beating Lacy did NOT impress me one bit as Lacy to me
was pretty damn ordinary. Hyped, but couldn't back it up.
Calzahge's style I don't like and I don't think he
has faced real championship class.
Is he good, YES, is he great, I don't think so.....
Calzaghe has had a very successful, but padded career IMO.
He has beat everyone he has ever faced, but no legends, apart from
maybe an OLD ring worn Eubank...
Kessler was very good, but hardly in Jones's Juniors league or Toney's or
Hearns or a peak Hopkins league...not close...
Calzaghe is a slapper without a punch..
He has great stamina, great work output, a decent chin and
a nice southpaw style......
I just can't get excited about Joe and never could...
He's at the end of his career now and all he has accomplished
I have forgotten, because to be honest he didn't accomplish all
that much apart from a WBO title, and defenses against
mediocre opposition...
Good post ,
I think you have sum up my opinions Calzaghe ,Are you crazy? Joe Calzaghe lacks technique in your opinion? That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time and to be honest I can`t take any of your points seriously if you really think that.
So your problem is that one fighter is talking trash about another fighter before a possible fight... eh welcome to boxing!
Golden rule know your opponent: D:D
Now I do not know you and know nothing about your background or knowledge of the game, yes I will repect your opinion (wrong or right) as we are all entitled to one, but to dismiss someone else opinion like this is crap. But the fact you are dismissing the opinion of someone that has a good background and very good personal knowledge of the sport make it funny,,,,,,,0 -
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I never realised there were so many World Champions who post on this forum, the way some of you are talking you must be millionaires for all the money you won in the ring.
But back to reality, no one who post here is, has, or will ever be World Champion, granted there are boxing people who have an opinions but anyone who disputes that Calzaghe is not worthy of his titles has no idea what there on about. Ok, I agree the standard of boxing nowadays is not what it was in previous decades but surely an undisputed champion with a record of 44-0 should get some respect from everyone on here.
There are people here who have boxed in finals, won titles inside the ring, some have even managed to win National titles (yes myself included many years ago) and I remember how hard it was to get to that level but could never imagine what it would be like to be World Champion.
So give Joe a break lads...........and some credit would be nice too
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well said mate at last some common senceI never realised there were so many World Champions who post on this forum, the way some of you are talking you must be millionaires for all the money you won in the ring.
But back to reality, no one who post here is, has, or will ever be World Champion, granted there are boxing people who have an opinions but anyone who disputes that Calzaghe is not worthy of his titles has no idea what there on about. Ok, I agree the standard of boxing nowadays is not what it was in previous decades but surely an undisputed champion with a record of 44-0 should get some respect from everyone on here.
There are people here who have boxed in finals, won titles inside the ring, some have even managed to win National titles (yes myself included many years ago) and I remember how hard it was to get to that level but could never imagine what it would be like to be World Champion.
So give Joe a break lads...........and some credit would be nice too0 -
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Are you crazy? Joe Calzaghe lacks technique in your opinion? That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time and to be honest I can`t take any of your points seriously if you really think that.
So your problem is that one fighter is talking trash about another fighter before a possible fight... eh welcome to boxing!
Your first post on this subject ,and you attack someone opinion straight away without most thought. class:DLol unless your name is emmanuel stewart or freddie roach or some other legendary boxing coach then I don`t care whether or not you coach trainees. To suggest that a ten-year world champion lacks technique is laughable. You may be a boxing coach and others on here may be succesful boxers but that is just ridiculous. I will take my pointers from the likes of ring magazine who rank joe as one of the top-ten pond for pound fighters in the world.
Just because Calzaghe's technique is unorthodox does not mean it is bad.
So even though you might coach trainees, I still maintain that your assertion that joe calzaghe lacks technique is indeed stupid!
My problem with this is again you attack first .Ok this time you back it up with some of your views . And we also get some light on your experience and where most of your knowledge of the sport comes from. Now do not get me wrong not all poster there have been in the ring , take BIG EARS as an example he has never boxed but this knowledge and insight into this sport is second to none. Which I feel may be the start of the problem between you and another poster i.e looking at fights differentlySo all the top boxers and coaches in Ireland think that Calzaghe has bad technique?
TBH I actually prefer to listen to somebody who has achieved something in world boxing!
hmmm... great rhtyhm, great hand speed and great movement... certainly sounds like calzaghe's technique sucks! but of course the experts here know more about boxing than former heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis.
Alot of the boxing community outside Ireland belief that Calzaghe has bad Technique and the fact that he has suffer "BAD HANDS " throughout his career is a sure sign of this bad technique. Yes he is a good fighter but his technique is not world class my any means.cowzerp you just come across as bitter. perhaps your jealous that joe calzaghe is so much more successful than you ever were with his so-called bad technique. Even from the title of this thread your bitterness comes across. Every boxer talks trash about other boxers. Its just part of the game. Are you going to start a new thread slamming every single fighter who talks trash about a possible opponent? I must do a search for all your previous threads calling boxers who talk trash a muppet... Or is it just Joe Calzaghe that you have something against?
And then somebody stands up and points out the ridiculousness of what you are saying and you say that they shouldn`t post on this forum because they don`t agree with your expert opinion! Eh I think you'll find other ppl agreed with me too.
And just one more point about the technique thing. The closest thing I can compare it to is that when Michael Johnson was breaking all of the 400m records ppl didn`t say "oh he lacks technique". But he was running completely differently to anyone else and his technique was not in any coaching manuals and certainly not taught to kids by running coaches. Yet everybody understood that it was his unorthodox style that made him great and without that he would probably be a nobody on the track.
The same is true of Joe Calzaghe in my opinion. But I guess you would say that Michael Johnson lacks technique because he doesn`t sprint like you!
First part is just downright wrong , and a crap thing to even say,
Your point about Micheal Johnson is a cracking point and I for one cannot argue against it, Except lamely said different sports.This afternoon the BBC are rebroadcasting Joe Calzaghe's masterful performance against Kessler. Perhaps some of the experts from Irish boxing from here shoud watch it and take some notes from Calzaghe's wonderful performance... You never know you all might learn something from a true great of world boxing!:D
Again with the comments about Irish Boxing. As a small nation we have a very good record both in the Amateur and professional game.This is down to the Amateur clubs and coaches all over Ireland who day in and day out are doing fantastic work with who knows how many further champs at all levels. So please don't be consenting to these people and their great work.
The following post are just Examples of how you can still air your views and opinions without having to resort to abuse and child like statementsCome on lads he's just beaten A VERY GOOD fighter fair and square and mostly impressive. He's got everything you would want to see a kid starting out have GUTS,HEART,CHIN,SPEED,FLURRY OF PUNCHES,FOOTWORK AND LOVES A TEAR UP. I can't believe you's can slag him off even when you have boxed yourselfs.
Del ha hoya was up a weight too high really but hops was a great middleweight i think calzaghe is just playing for tv everyone does that. I think he just has too many skills i think for hopkins and cal will be stronger at the weight that hopkins simply because he was a super middle hopkins wasn't . Also hopkins won't have the power to halt calzaghe he did beat traver easy but traver was shocking bad. Also wright was moving up from L middle, hopkins is a legend himself and i just think people should start giving joe credit cause they give hatton so much for one good win so come on lads.GIVE JOE CREDIT HE IS A LEGENDp cowser post a clip up here to show me hopkins has so much more technique to tear joe apart come on your way over the top here. What would be his game plan to beat joe i'd like to think of a way you think he would tear him apart this should be interesting.he's won all four belts and he didn't just beat lacy he battered him who has hopkins beaten like that and also jones junior is a bit of a frak of nature in his prime nobody would have beaten him without a hell of a lucky punch.
so your telling me hopkins fight with taylor where so great to watch.
anyway hopkins ain't an exciting fighter give it a rest the amercian have booed so many of his fights cause he'll rather counter punch, i honestly can't believe you can dis calzaghe this much fair enough he did fight a few bad guys but so did all the champions that boxing thats hows ya make money.:cool:
Calzaghe style is better than most cause he fights when ya don't have to and he's quickest hands in those weights in boxing. god i've a feeling if he was irish ya still hate him what with the negitave comments, your only covering your arse saying hopkins is past it cause if the do fight it will be all joe all night by eights round if not more.:eek::eek::p
maybe a bit more repect for people and their different views/opinions in further is call for .0 -
And theres me thinking boxing thought me to control my emotions.....:rolleyes:
Whatever happened to construtive criticism on forums....
Didn't Calzaghe beat Sakio Bika easily and now Bika is the contender champion.....or was that competition crap as well...people should be able to air their views on here without people taking it personal.
Now i want to start another debate I went and watched Carl Froch beat Robin Reid last night now my opinion is that Calzaghe would be too good for Froch yet he challenged Calzaghe last night (he said he'd even step up to light heavy) so what do people think? Yes Froch can bang theres no doubt about that but he's been an up an coming boxer since winning the Commonwealth title back in 2004 and I dont think he's as good as he says he is.
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And theres me thinking boxing thought me to control my emotions.....:rolleyes:
Whatever happened to construtive criticism on forums....
Didn't Calzaghe beat Sakio Bika easily and now Bika is the contender champion.....or was that competition crap as well...people should be able to air their views on here without people taking it personal.
Now i want to start another debate I went and watched Carl Froch beat Robin Reid last night now my opinion is that Calzaghe would be too good for Froch yet he challenged Calzaghe last night (he said he'd even step up to light heavy) so what do people think? Yes Froch can bang theres no doubt about that but he's been an up an coming boxer since winning the Commonwealth title back in 2004 and I dont think he's as good as he says he is.
I'd be very interested in what people think about Froch
I seen the fight pity reid was passed it, i thought he caught froch a few times and he seem not too good to taking them wonder was that just me. i have to say i like froch but didn't think he was great last night i think a Froch - Lacy fight would be good, Calzaghe doesn't need joe just like collins didn't need calzaghe in my view. 0 -
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