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Scared

  • 06-11-2007 3:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I did a silly, stupid, childish thing without realising what consequences it might have; without realising how accurate i must have been, and how completely scared I am now.

    Me and this girl are in the same flat. We're not dating or anything but I care about her alot.
    Anywho, shes in her bed covers, Im sitting on her lap and her friends on the end of the bed and we're all chatting away. So we had been tickling eachother and all that.
    But me and her friend had to go back to classes she said "get outta here so i can play with myself :)" so without giving it any thought I react to the statement by going to tickle her.... yeah.

    Now, shes pissed at me. Dhe tried to kill me, and now she doesnt want to see me, and now shes gone and went back home for the rest of the week. She just said all men are the same, and youre no different.

    I care for her, and while I didnt mean for it to turn out this way, it has. And now I dont know what to do with myself. I cant even focus on my work; I have to try and stop from shaking and leaking tears. And im absolutely scared.

    I need help.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Mullah


    Is there another meaning to the word tickle I don't get?

    Can't see cause and effect at work here otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Fwaggle


    Mullah wrote: »
    Is there another meaning to the word tickle I don't get?

    Can't see cause and effect at work here otherwise.

    Yeah, WTF?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yeah, I can't understand why tickling her one minute was okay but the not the next. Are u telling us the full story?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭AngryBadger


    If I'm understanding this at all, (and I'm not sure I am?) you "dropped the hand" to some degree?

    I can understand her getting pissed off to some extent. But at the same time you were sitting in her lap and she made a sexual comment?

    Seems to me like a classic example of blurring the lines in the whole male/female friend/more than friends thing.

    You say you care about her a lot, does that mean you're attracted to her? If it does well dropping the hand was fairly stupid.

    At the same time I've never understodd men/women trying to blur the lines like this, you're sitting in her lap and she announces she wants to play with herself, you're a guy, how did she think you'd respond?

    I'd apoligse if you haven't done so, and then I'd leave it be.

    Of course this is all assuming you did in fact drop the hand...

    P.S> WHy are you SCARED exactly? It's not like she's going to give you cooties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Tickle her where exactly?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,062 ✭✭✭✭event


    so without giving it any thought I react to the statement by going to tickle her.... yeah.

    im guessing that what he meant here is "tickle her down there"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭*Page*


    I Dhe tried to kill me,

    how did she try to kill you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    your assumptions about where she was tickled are correct.

    look, its a longish story but the facts are lain out in the original post. We've kissed before but she made it clear she didnt want a relationship right now.

    Im not trying to get at her for sex. Im a 20 year old virgin; and she isnt. Ive never been in a relationship and shes been in a handful. So far I've been fairly content taking things at a crawl: its not just a race to the finish - in fact the thought scares me because I feel entirely inadequate/inexperienced but thats a wholly different topic altogether. I hope this explains the blurring line between friends.

    Im scared because im worried she might move out, and any friendship or affection we shared would be over. and Im scared that her view of me is going to be forever tainted by one 3 second lapse.

    and the left hemisphere of my brain says: "well **** - shes twisted my balls a couple times" I didnt even gather the gravity of the situation until an hour later. Before that it was all still just friends playing around with friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    (she tried to kill me with a 7 inch throwing knife - and gave me 20 seconds to get outta there)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    Firstly are you male/female?!?

    Secondly, if you feel she deserves an apology then apologise. Don't be scared of this girl! She obviously acted like a complete prick-tease (if you're a lad!) Firstly, by letting you sit on her lap when she was under her bed-covers and THEN by saying she wanted to play with herself! Like come on!! I'm a single lady and if a friend of mine was on my bed tickling me and I decided to tell them I felt like playing with myself I would be half-heartedly hoping they'd help me along in some way!

    You were not out of order (in my opinion) Although, how far did you take it?! When she reacted bad what did you do?!

    Who does she thnk she is? What did she expect you to do? Grrrr if a girls horny and wants to say it out loud after a tickling session with a mate, let her expect someone to jump at the chance to help her out - it was almost an invitation - otherwise she should have kept her mouth shut instead of giving you the wrong idea!!!

    [edit - sorry I've re-read - you ARE a guy!!! And the absolute CHEEK of her to say all men are the same - she's obviously such a prick-tease that she's only ever attracted w*nkers and then she does her slutty thing with you, who, on the other hand genuinely cares for her and she tars you with the same brush because of her own stupidity!! Try not to let her get to you, as I said, if you feel you should apologise then do but I think SHE should be the one apologising for giving YOU the wrong idea!!! If you didn't care so much she' be crawling back into your friendly arms!!! Believe me!!!]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,935 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    She just said all men are the same, and youre no different.

    clearly a dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭pretty-in-pink


    I'm gonna ask, like the others above- what do you mean by tickling? If you tried something on, and she doesn't fancy you- then that would be why she is pissed.

    She proabbaly just said it jokingly, not thinking her mate would react like that- chances are she would say it to a girl too.

    What parts of the story are we missing? Why are you scared? Crying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,935 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I did a silly, stupid, childish thing without realising what consequences it might have; without realising how accurate i must have been, and how completely scared I am now.

    Me and this girl are in the same flat. We're not dating or anything but I care about her alot.
    Anywho, shes in her bed covers, Im sitting on her lap and her friends on the end of the bed and we're all chatting away. So we had been tickling eachother and all that.
    But me and her friend had to go back to classes she said "get outta here so i can play with myself :)" so without giving it any thought I react to the statement by going to tickle her.... yeah.

    Now, shes pissed at me. Dhe tried to kill me, and now she doesnt want to see me, and now shes gone and went back home for the rest of the week. She just said all men are the same, and youre no different.

    I care for her, and while I didnt mean for it to turn out this way, it has. And now I dont know what to do with myself. I cant even focus on my work; I have to try and stop from shaking and leaking tears. And im absolutely scared.

    I need help.

    cmon, its fairly obvious whats gone on here. And its also fairly obvious she isnt taking it well, Pink. Its tuesday: she goes home for the rest of the week.... think about it. I might agree with you if it were at the weekend or something - but who disappears mid week if they arent upset?

    sorry, OP, I cant think of any advice to give you: and i hope im making accurate assumptions at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    What parts of the story are we missing? Why are you scared? Crying?

    Yeah! I suppose I was jumping the gun putting all the blame on this girl! OP, what did you do to the girl for her to react so badly? Did you just "try" to "tickle" her or is there more to it? If it was as you said, and you just tried and she stopped you then I still stand by my original post!

    Are you crying because what you've done is so bad or that you might lose her friendship?!

    You didn't rape this girl so I dont see why you should be so scared!! :confused:

    And how the hell did she try to kill you? Maybe her friend who was there is adding a little fuel to the fire - who knows.....girls can be so b*tchy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭pretty-in-pink


    Overheal wrote: »
    cmon, its fairly obvious whats gone on here. And its also fairly obvious she isnt taking it well, Pink. Its tuesday: she goes home for the rest of the week.... think about it. I might agree with you if it were at the weekend or something - but who disappears mid week if they arent upset?

    sorry, OP, I cant think of any advice to give you: and i hope im making accurate assumptions at least.
    We don't know what he did, we do know she was very upset over it. We also know he feels badly now. I picked that "...yeah" up as being, "yeah I'm an idiot" as opposed to refering to a body part.

    How did she try to kill him? Figuratively? Literally? We need to OP to elaborate- clearly a lot of the story is missing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    i think when he says he went to tickle her again, i think he tried to tickle "somewhere else"? op we need more info!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭*Page*


    we need the op to reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭pretty-in-pink


    OP, having read your replies.....well, I just dunno. You were out of line, though hardly worthy of a kinife-throwing event. She over-reacted. Have you been in contact with her? There may be more going on behind the scenes then you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭*Page*


    (she tried to kill me with a 7 inch throwing knife - and gave me 20 seconds to get outta there)


    you dont need that in your life op.


    tell her your sorry but to get over herself. she gave you mixed signals you reacted badly. so call it quits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I spoke with her before she left.

    At first we spoke when i got back to college and we chatted online for a little bit. This is when she painted me with the same brush as any other guy, and its also when i reaffirmed my feelings for her. She told me it was pointless trying to talk to her because she was pissed off and was going home for a few days.

    Then I saw her before she left. She seemed calm and just said shed be alright and shes just going home for a few days [again] and that she was gonna be pissed for a while. I could think of nothing else but to look her in the eyes (those wonderful eyes!) and reaffirm for her in the flesh i meant everything i said [online]. This was as she was going out the door.

    She didnt really meet my eyes the same way we usually do and just said "I know. Ok, I have to go."

    She looked like she had already made up her mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    *Page* wrote: »
    you dont need that in your life op.


    tell her your sorry but to get over herself. she gave you mixed signals you reacted badly. so call it quits

    mixed signals??? are you ****ing joking me???

    i would consider that totally in your face come and get me signals! ffs

    OP she's a prick tease. sitting on her lap, tickling, then telling you she's going to play with herself, and all men are the same??? of course any normal red blooded male is gonna react the same way when you say **** like that! what a moron.

    its her problem for not being clearer about the non sexual nature of the relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    sorry,but when he said she twisted my balls a few times...is it literal? lol
    if so,then she shudnt have gone so nuts over it. ive mostly female friends n most of us are all touchy feely,when we get a ll drunk we end up doin silly thing s too,but we dont throw knives at eachother.

    no to lay somethin out,how long have u known this girl,cuz maybe theres somethin in her past to make her act this way,i dont wanna say it outright.
    but when i was with a irl a while back,we were friends,then hooked up,an and were uber close,but sometimes her "past" wud mess up our moments. maybe its the same with this girl. who knows.

    i dont fully agree with her being a cocktease,i need more evidence for hat assumption,but ive friends who are like that, oh im horny,love some cock rite now hahaha etc etc (ive weird frends) and it is not an open invite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Damage is done, just forget about her and move on in life.

    Anyway, anyone who threatens you with a knife isn't your friend. She's clearly a nutcase that you should erase from your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    Sounds to me like the OP isn't telling the full story. Whatever you did, it must have been bad and uninvited for her to throw a knife at you, and for you to be so scared now. What really happened?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    And someone letting a mate tickle them and saying they are in the mood is not an invite., especially when she has told him to go away so she can "play with herself." Doesn't sound like an invite to me. Whatever you did was obviously bad enough for her to threaten you with a knife and then do a disappearing act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    v blurry info here, But for whats its worth, it looks like u badly misunderstood what she was intending , but her reaction is just as bad.

    I think maybe the 2 of ye should have a sit down and talk and try and be friends again, not worth runing something good over something so silly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,935 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I spoke with her before she left.

    At first we spoke when i got back to college and we chatted online for a little bit. This is when she painted me with the same brush as any other guy, and its also when i reaffirmed my feelings for her. She told me it was pointless trying to talk to her because she was pissed off and was going home for a few days.

    Then I saw her before she left. She seemed calm and just said shed be alright and shes just going home for a few days [again] and that she was gonna be pissed for a while. I could think of nothing else but to look her in the eyes (those wonderful eyes!) and reaffirm for her in the flesh i meant everything i said [online]. This was as she was going out the door.

    She didnt really meet my eyes the same way we usually do and just said "I know. Ok, I have to go."

    She looked like she had already made up her mind.

    .....well, ****. :( could you be reading her wrong cos youre worried? she probably feels a level of trust has been shattered.

    this knife tho... if you didnt realise till later how bad she took it, in what way was she with the knife??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Please tell me she was wearing underwear at the very least?

    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    Firstly are you male/female?!?

    Secondly, if you feel she deserves an apology then apologise. Don't be scared of this girl! She obviously acted like a complete prick-tease (if you're a lad!) Firstly, by letting you sit on her lap when she was under her bed-covers and THEN by saying she wanted to play with herself! Like come on!! I'm a single lady and if a friend of mine was on my bed tickling me and I decided to tell them I felt like playing with myself I would be half-heartedly hoping they'd help me along in some way!

    You were not out of order (in my opinion) Although, how far did you take it?! When she reacted bad what did you do?!

    Who does she thnk she is? What did she expect you to do? Grrrr if a girls horny and wants to say it out loud after a tickling session with a mate, let her expect someone to jump at the chance to help her out - it was almost an invitation - otherwise she should have kept her mouth shut instead of giving you the wrong idea!!!

    [edit - sorry I've re-read - you ARE a guy!!! And the absolute CHEEK of her to say all men are the same - she's obviously such a prick-tease that she's only ever attracted w*nkers and then she does her slutty thing with you, who, on the other hand genuinely cares for her and she tars you with the same brush because of her own stupidity!! Try not to let her get to you, as I said, if you feel you should apologise then do but I think SHE should be the one apologising for giving YOU the wrong idea!!! If you didn't care so much she' be crawling back into your friendly arms!!! Believe me!!!]
    Seraphina wrote:
    mixed signals??? are you ****ing joking me???

    i would consider that totally in your face come and get me signals! ffs

    OP she's a prick tease. sitting on her lap, tickling, then telling you she's going to play with herself, and all men are the same??? of course any normal red blooded male is gonna react the same way when you say **** like that! what a moron.

    its her problem for not being clearer about the non sexual nature of the relationship.

    I'm a guy & I whole-heartedly disagree. You do not touch a girl down there when she makes a joke about playing with herself. I can't believe you think this is acceptable.

    I think the OP knows this & fair play to him for spelling it out so honestly in the first post.

    Prick-tease coments are also nonsense. Echoes a rapist justifying the act because she was wearing a short skirt. I'm comparing the argument made not the OP with a rapist.
    and the left hemisphere of my brain says: "well **** - shes twisted my balls a couple times" I didnt even gather the gravity of the situation until an hour later. Before that it was all still just friends playing around with friends.

    It's different for girls. When I was in school girls went through phases of grabbing the guys asses/balls in a joking/flirting manner but it was very rarely reciprocated. The only way I can explain is imagine a gay man who's physically stronger than you feeling your crotch.

    There's another aspect too, you did it in front of her friend. Might make her feel like she's coming across as slutty if she tolerates it. This could actually explain the reaction a lot.

    You come across as a genuine/sensitive type & she possibly sees you as someone she can trust(and also just as a friend I'm afraid). Perhaps this is why she was so hurt.

    I think you need to send her a text explaining how you realise how stupid it was of you, how you can understand how offended she was & that it was just a moment of madness that you're really upset about.

    I genuinely believe you believe that too. If she still moves out she's being unreasonable. Needless to say you wait for her to make the first move in future. Regardless of how flirty she's being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Let me explain about the knife. When it happened she gave me till the count of 20 to leave the room while she was holding this knife - so I just considered it playful. I left anyway. But there was nothing in her behavior at the time [before the online conversation] that suggested how upset she really was.
    It's different for girls. When I was in school girls went through phases of grabbing the guys asses/balls in a joking/flirting manner but it was very rarely reciprocated. The only way I can explain is imagine a gay man who's physically stronger than you feeling your crotch.

    There's another aspect too, you did it in front of her friend. Might make her feel like she's coming across as slutty if she tolerates it. This could actually explain the reaction a lot.

    You come across as a genuine/sensitive type & she possibly sees you as someone she can trust(and also just as a friend I'm afraid). Perhaps this is why she was so hurt.

    I think you need to send her a text explaining how you realise how stupid it was of you, how you can understand how offended she was & that it was just a moment of madness that you're really upset about.

    I genuinely believe you believe that too. If she still moves out she's being unreasonable. Needless to say you wait for her to make the first move in future. Regardless of how flirty she's being.

    Thanks, Bottle. Thats the single most enlightening post yet.

    Another thing too is, that the friend next to me is a long time friend of hers. While she never liked him at all, hes still a red blooded male too. so youre right it may have a lot to do with it. Theyre best friends.

    Ive been in an exhausted sleep since the afternoon and I woke up thinking the exact same trust issue. Its made me physically ill: that she'll be unable to forgive me; that our bridges are going to burn.
    But do I deserve any better? In 3 seconds, I managed to rip apart the line between friends; between even more than friends if it ever had been anything more than that.

    I wouldnt consider it a moment of madness or of .... molest. None of it excuses the facts; but she was fully clothed and she was under her own blanket and quilt from the stomach up. I didnt reach around the covers! i just went obliquely straight there expecting her to flinch or do something - but no. Thats not an excuse. but its driving me to madness. How the **** could I have listened to that impulse that "oh, it's just yet another tickle attack". What really happened, was a Violation.

    Would it really be so unreasonable of her to leave.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭curiousxxx1


    Would it really be so unreasonable of her to leave.

    Yes it would be, guessing you have apologised to her by now. If she does leave then that's definitely OTT and also may be because she has feelings for you too... IMO i think that's the whole reason for her going home. She thinks she might like you and the situation is complicated!


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