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Ibc Japan

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  • 03-11-2007 6:24pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭


    Hi i have just purchased 3 cars from this company they are due in at the end of the month just wondering had any body any dealing with them i have heard a few stories about faulty cars?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    i just bought my first car from them and it would put some cars on the showrrom floor to shame and its a 96!! i found them great to deal with they even returned a car i won at auction as it was not up to what i was looking for, all in all i had a great experience with them and i will deal with them again in a heartbeat if only irish companies could learn a few things from them

    wow 3 cars!!! this your first import??


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭jus


    yeah first time i got 2 galanza turbos and a subaru legacy b4b due in at the end of month. the cars are so cheap


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭lafors


    jus wrote: »
    yeah first time i got 2 galanza turbos and a subaru legacy b4b due in at the end of month. the cars are so cheap

    mind giving us a price on the legacy??
    If you do don't worry about it :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭jus


    i got the 3 cars for 7,300


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    unless you are registered for vat and have a tan number make sure that the cars are all on separate invoices in different names or the customs will get the hump and not release the cars.
    more info pm me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭jus


    sundodger5 wrote: »
    unless you are registered for vat and have a tan number make sure that the cars are all on separate invoices in different names or the customs will get the hump and not release the cars.
    more info pm me.

    Is this true im not registered for vat one car is for me one for liitle bro and we were going to sell the other one to get some money back any help would be great the clearing agent did not say anything about it?:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    As far as i was concerned once you kept it under 4 cars a year customs will not be looking for you,after all wont you be paying the vat and customs and excise and vrt, so i dont see a problem. just double check this with your clearing agent (is it MCC?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭p-nut


    jus wrote: »
    i got the 3 cars for 7,300

    dont forget ye have to pay duty aswel when you go to collect them..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I got a car from them and all was good except that the undertray was broken and this wasn't stated in the report. And it's not that cheap to fix.

    I don't know what way you're doing it but they sent my car through the uk and it cleared customs there so all that was needed to be paid was the VRT when it came in here. And this worked out cheaper!

    by the way, bring some petrol with you when you collect the cars cos they'll have been drained.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭jus


    Advant shipping is the clearing agent they said it should be ok i hope so.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭louie


    got few cars in the past. Never had any problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 importjdm


    I just found a big list of complaints about IBC Japan here:

    http://jdmvip.com/jdmcarforums/showthread.php?t=39


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    was thinking about importing my next car myself but have also heard alot of bad stories about ibc, some not too bad like wing mirrors broke out in transit to some some very bad like engine failures upon arrival.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    Ive actually not heard any bad about them,looking at the above posts they all seem to be problems in the us and canada,i think the general problems people have is when the car actually arrives in dublin port,its the offloading of the cars and them being left unlocked thats the cause of damage and bits going missing.

    Ive seen projectgtrs car when he first got it and it literally looked like a brand new car,absolutly spotless for its year


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    eireal wrote: »
    Ive actually not heard any bad about them,looking at the above posts they all seem to be problems in the us and canada,i think the general problems people have is when the car actually arrives in dublin port,its the offloading of the cars and them being left unlocked thats the cause of damage and bits going missing.

    Ive seen projectgtrs car when he first got it and it literally looked like a brand new car,absolutly spotless for its year

    yeh theres as many good stories about them as there is bad so it much of a much ness i suppose, have signed up to there site nyway so will do a bit more investigation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 gniie


    Lads, the cars that they supply could be perfect but if they have trouble when they arrive, then there is no comeback. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. ONCE YOU'VE PAID THAT IS IT. YOUR PROBLEM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    But the savings are more than enough to cover a potential problem,were talking 4/5k on some cars.With savings like that its worth alot more than your 3 month or NCT guarantee most garages will give if a problem does arise.

    Im after buying from them and currently waiting on the car to be shipped,so far so good touch wood.I actually have more trust in them handling the car ect ect,its when it actually arrives here and gets rallied off the boat that im worried about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 gniie


    What you didn't get is the fact that in Ireland you can legally challenge any garage or company or even a private sale if there is a serious problem, and before that you can check the car yourself anyway. So your savings are justifying importing from IBC Japan as long as you fill lucky to get the car in good order.
    By the way…. I wrote to the maritime insurance comp to the address that is on the IBC website and my registered letter came back with the address not found…..and from other people that have complained about this crowd – the independent company that checks the mileage is registered to IBC Japan…. So if you like the lottery of importing from IBC Japan , best of luck…
    I won't make the same mistake twice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn!


    Brought my car in with them. bar a cock up with them changing bank accounts between the deposit and the payment i had no issues.

    Car came in as expected. Was as descried and couldn't fault the engineers report for accuracy but it lacked detailed info on modifications (to be expected).

    I had also shopped around and prices were good you can do better but best of luck making reliable contacts on the first import.


    The Japanese side was easy compared to Ireland to be honest and i would do it again with IBC if i didn't have the contacts.

    Mind you im no longer buying fast cars as my car is dead due to an accident and im settling down abroad.

    Have to add:
    -Average prices are not accurate
    -Site goes Down
    -Support is ok but is outsourced



    maybe i got lucky but i know 5 other cars that came from ibc and were fine


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    x2 on the average prices,i bid on 5 cars before i got one and found the average price below the mark on 4 of them.

    I couldnt fault the support in the fact that they seem to go out of the way to help with any questions ect and are fairly quick to reply.

    Ive done a good bit of work on cars brought in by them for importers and ive only ever seen one rough car but it was a grade 3 so it was to be expected.

    @Gnii,what was your particular problem or what went wrong?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 gniie


    eireal wrote: »
    x2 on the average prices,i bid on 5 cars before i got one and found the average price below the mark on 4 of them.

    I couldnt fault the support in the fact that they seem to go out of the way to help with any questions ect and are fairly quick to reply.

    Ive done a good bit of work on cars brought in by them for importers and ive only ever seen one rough car but it was a grade 3 so it was to be expected.

    @Gnii,what was your particular problem or what went wrong?
    My hybrid car arrived with a faulty HV battery= v v expensive to repair and main dealers are not happy to help with this highly specialised job. I've paid for a grade 4 car and I got in exchange an almost useless piece of furniture. The verdict from the specialist was that the battery presented a fault before departure from Japan. IBC said that they were not aware of any fault at the time of departure according to their inspection and they are not responsible. They also try to fog me and send me to deal with the insurance comp and the shipping comp.( the ins comp address from website is not real). I've paid them in full for that car to be delivered to Dublin in grade 4 condition and I got a car that I need it to spend almost twice its cost in repair to make it work. They are v sorry that I am not a happy customer but they appreciate my business and they expect me to do more business with them in the future....
    The shipping agent rep in Dublin told me over the phone that IBC Japan never accepts responsibility for any car that arrives with problems. They keep blaming each other but they don't care because business is good and they will make money regardless. And because they are not EU they can not be held responsible by EU legislation so for fair trial you need to go and sue them in Japan! If you can afford!
    I said it before. It is like the lottery! If you are lucky to get a good car they are great to deal with. If you have problems they keep passing you on. So far I didn't hear of anybody that had a problem and they got satisfaction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    Just picked up my Euro R the other day that i bought from them and its in even better condition than expected,its literally like a brand new car and drives the same too,the only bad thing is my gearknob went missing along the lines but more than likely that was in dublin port

    Its got a full documented main dealer service history which is the first one ive seen on a jap import,all in all im very happpy with the car and the service ect and will definitly use them again


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    A Mate of mine brought in an RX7 off these guys

    Was told it was all original parts in the car and that it was running perfectly.

    When he got it the engine went after a couple months

    they cross checked the engine number against the chassis number. and it was not the original engine that came with the car.

    major work, time and money needed to get this fixed. IBC played dumb.

    Dodgey..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭cpoh1


    grahambo wrote: »
    A Mate of mine brought in an RX7 off these guys

    Was told it was all original parts in the car and that it was running perfectly.

    When he got it the engine went after a couple months

    they cross checked the engine number against the chassis number. and it was not the original engine that came with the car.

    major work, time and money needed to get this fixed. IBC played dumb.

    Dodgey..


    The rx7 simply will not run on Irish fuel. You need 100RON unleaded as thats what the car is mapped for in japan. Im actually surprised your friend lasted a few months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    I like www.sb-trading.co.jp

    Very reliable and particular!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,415 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Lets hope they arrive on time and you're not paying €2k a year road tax and top rate VRT for both cars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    gniie wrote: »
    Lads, the cars that they supply could be perfect but if they have trouble when they arrive, then there is no comeback. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. ONCE YOU'VE PAID THAT IS IT. YOUR PROBLEM.

    That would be why you don't buy unless you know what the F%^K your doing.

    The above seems to be the typical old fashioned Irish view on it. Where do you think reputable used car dealers in Ireland get their cars and how do they know they wont give trouble?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Lets hope they arrive on time and you're not paying €2k a year road tax and top rate VRT for both cars.

    Road tax will be based on the CC of the car. VRT will be top rate though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn!


    iRock wrote: »
    That would be why you don't buy unless you know what the F%^K your doing.

    The above seems to be the typical old fashioned Irish view on it. Where do you think reputable used car dealers in Ireland get their cars and how do they know they wont give trouble?

    I partially agree. At the end of the day you are buying a car at auction. You will have an engineers report use your head if there is anything you don't like don't bid. Make sure you know as much as possible about the model of car your buying.

    I spent 2/3 months watching auctions before i put a bid on a car and noticed on one occasion the same car appeared at auction 3 times. ;) I wonder why?


    But then again i would not buy a rotary without factoring in a rebuild at anything over 60,000miles. Also i hear stories of allot of people buying modified turbo cars or cars that are detonation prowen e.g Legacy B4, Rx7. Getting them running them on 95 octane and/or putting boost through the roof. (i know of two cars that died this way)

    The day my car arrived, It was serviced, Compression checked, Checked for boost leaks, Inspected under the car, Also took rocker cover off to check cam spray bars.
    I wired a knock sensor to a laptop two;)

    On Topic:
    The issues that were raised here that would prevent me from buying from IBC (again)
    • Insurance doesnt cover damage in shipping
    • Found average pricing to be arse ways
    • I have better contacts now


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,415 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Road tax will be based on the CC of the car. VRT will be top rate though...
    I don't think so.
    Unless you have:
    * a Japanese Export Certificates or Japanese Certificates of Cancellation of Motor Vehicle Registration,
    * a printout from the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport showing the level of CO2 emissions for the model on the certificate"

    In the absence of a Certificate of Conformity and the Revenue Coommissioners not otherwise being satisfied as to the CO2 rating of a car by reference to any other supporting documentation, the motorist will be required to pay the highest motor tax rate. The same approach will apply to VRT.

    Good luck getting the Japanese docmentation


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