Irish Intervarsity Poker Tournament 2007

ULPOKERSOCIETY

UL poker Society is proud to announce the Irish Intervarsity Poker Tournament 2007 to be held in Limerick.

DETAILS :

Date : 25th November 2007

Venue : Kilmurrey Lodge Hotel, Castletroy, Limerick.
Details on how to get to the event can be found on www.kilmurrylodge.com

Time : Sign-in at 12pm, Gameplay commences at 1pm

Type : NL Texas Hold'em (FREEZEOUT)

Entry Fee : €300 per team
- €100 team registration +
- €20 per player (€18 Prizepool and €2 reg fee)

Prizepool : There is a 10% payout of overall turnout (ie if 120 players = then 12 payout places)

Prerequesites : Teams are made up of 10 players. They must be students in that team's college.
A max of 2 teams per college.
There must be a *manager per team (may have one manager for the two college teams).
This is PRE-REGISTRATION event ONLY. Contact us ASAP!

Chips : White = 50, Red = 100, Blue = 500, Green = 1000, Black = 5000, Yellow = 10000, "TBC" = 25000.
Starting Chips will be 8000.

Blinds : 20 minute blinds for first 4 hours and 30 minutes thereafter.
Structure, 50-100, 100-200, 150-300, 200-400 etc.

Dealers : As there is expected to be a large amount of tables at the start, dealers will still be used but qualified dealers will be used in later stages of event.

Rules : We will have a documented and thoroughly reviewed ruleset ready for event.

Tournament Directors : Liam Duffy - UL Poker Secretary and Stephen Carmody - UL Poker President

Sponsors : We are working on sponsors for event so nothing more on this part.

Although the tournament is an individual event (as regards to payouts etc) it is also a team event. Points are awarded to the top 100 players in the event and as players finish higher they get more points. The team with the most points at the end of the event is crowned the Overall IPT Team Winners, and the college they are representing receives the Trophy.

As this is a college event, only teams representing colleges may play. (If you wish to enter please contact your poker soc and let them know or if your college has no Poker Soc, and you have 10 players, contact us and let us know of your interest.

Closing date for Registration is 9th November (This also includes the €100 deposit of team entry fee, details of Lodgement into Bank on request)

* Manager , Should be a member of the Colleges Poker Soc/Card Soc Committee and their role in the event will be the liaison officer between Event Management and the team pparticipating, to deal with matters that arise through conflict or otherwise that involve ; the college/team/poker soc/players or otherwise, at the event, that requires extra attention or coannot be resolved by the player/staff. They will be obligated to keep all documentaion of the Team and Players on them and upon arriving at the event will be the sole person responsible for Signing-in the team(s)/players.The manager may also have to help in small/large way on the day of event if they want. (Contact me if you would like to help out)

All relevent documentation on event is in the attached files.

For More information or to clarify what has been said on this post please contact :
Liam Duffy - Tournament Director and Event Organiser by email secretary.pokersoc@gmail.com or phone 0877686384

Other emails, Stephen Carmody - UL Poker President - pres.pokerso@gmail.com
Michael Coultry - UL Poker Chairman - chairperson.pokersoc@gmail.com
Matthew Carolan - UL Poker Treasurer - treasurer.pokersoc@gmail.com

carfax

Best of luck with this mate. We're going to be running the National Student Champs at the end of January so we will send down some literature about it if thats ok.


A quick piece of advice as regards the above post. There is no reason to let players know what the colour denominations of the chips are at this early stage....You leave yourself wide open to cheats if they know that you are not using a branded chip, which it seems is the case (apologies if you do have branded chips).

cooker3

carfax wrote: »

Best of luck with this mate. We're going to be running the National Student Champs at the end of January so we will send down some literature about it if thats ok.

On in January and not 1 thread yet, not on form Stephen!

I would like to play this one, think dcu are sending a team down so have to see can I get on it and wake up in time..

carfax

cooker3 wrote: »

On in January and not 1 thread yet, not on form Stephen!

You were one of many people asking me to stop spamming up this place....I do that and now you make fun of me.....Oh well its back to my old ways soon enough so, and its all your fault

Probably actually gonna be late Feb for the Student Champs......

Are you going to travel to Limerick to fold your way into the money?

cooker3

carfax wrote: »

Are you going to travel to Limerick to fold your way to the bubble

Fyp and yes I hopefully will be

ITT-Pat

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

UL poker Society is proud to announce the Irish Intervarsity Poker Tournament 2007 to be held in Limerick.

carfax wrote: »

Probably actually gonna be late Feb for the Student Champs

This is amazing, in the space of just 13 months, IT Tallaght are gonna win 3 intervarsities!!

carfax

ITT-Pat wrote: »

This is amazing, in the space of just 13 months, IT Tallaght are gonna win 3 intervarsities!!

The student champs isn't an intervarsities really now Pat, come on. Its open to anyone studying (by the way this year we'll be making 100% sure that every player is a student).

Have to stop myself from going off topic here.....Just a quick thought, is this a one day event? If so you may need to allow play continue up until about 4am.

ITT-Pat

carfax wrote: »

The student champs isn't an intervarsities really now Pat, come on. Its open to anyone studying

As captain of the current team event champions of ireland, I'll call the student champs whatever the hell i want! :p:p

carfax

ITT-Pat wrote: »

As captain of the current team event champions of ireland, I'll call the student champs whatever the hell i want! :p:p

lol, fair enough. I can see you are still basking in the success

This year you have to have actual students on your team. That DITtag fella is defo not allowed.

*slap on the wrists for myself for bringing this off topic*..... I promised myself I wouldn't start any new threads until the end of the week at least

ITT-Pat

carfax wrote: »

That DITtag fella is defo not allowed.
QUOTE]

thats was just a misunderstanding when he was registering for boards, it was supposed the be: D-ITT-ag (as in The ITT Aggression)

:D:D

€20 per player entry and €10 per player reg? Bit steep isn't it on the reg side?

AdMMM

I'll try my best to send a WIT team up, although it's very short notice and we've not yet been fully established.

€20 per player entry and €10 per player reg? Bit steep isn't it on the reg side?

Is this a fundraising event for UL Poker Soc?

ITT-Pat

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

Type : NL Texas Hold'em (FREEZEOUT)

Entry Fee : €300 per team
- €100 team registration +
- €20 per player (€18 Prizepool and €2 reg fee)

Deleted User wrote: »

€20 per player entry and €10 per player reg? Bit steep isn't it on the reg side?

I'd say that it means the €100 team regestration is the the team event prizepool

So the break down would be: €18 per person into the individual prizepool, €2 reg for chips, cards etc and €10 per person for team event prizepool

dK1NG

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

UL poker Society is proud to announce the Irish Intervarsity Poker Tournament 2007 to be held in Limerick.

Just to throw my 2c in the ring. I'm a student in UL and dont play poker there! I dont know either the secretary/ pres etc, but would not have total confidence going from past experience at games run in UL. The poker soc is not the best organised from what I can see - how many students even know that it exists, where are the leaflets, emails etc etc advertising weekly games. Example in point being the "team" for the student champs last yr, in the run up to it individual people were emailing stephen about it as the UL Poker Soc was no where to be found! In the end, I dont even know if there was such a team.

The last game I played at in UL the TD did not even know what was going on!! Are you going to post up the full list of rules in advance?

Dont mean to come across as overly negative, but thats how I see poker in UL the past few yrs.

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

Is this a fundraising event for UL Poker Soc?

ITT-Pat wrote: »

I'd say that it means the €100 team regestration is the the team event prizepool

So the break down would be: €18 per person into the individual prizepool, €2 reg for chips, cards etc and €10 per person for team event prizepool

Tbh, I would not be surprised if this was indeed a way of making money for the UL committee members (sorry, for the poker soc....;))

I havent had the best of experiences with poker in UL and refuse to even play there at this stage. Last tiem I did was a rebuy, where 90% payout of the initial buy-in was paid out, and the remaining 10% plus topup plus buyback were retained.......



One last thing, I'm sure that if you ask nicely s/o here would be able to point you in the right direction re sponsorship etc.

Best of luck with it, altho I doubt that I shall be playing!

R__J

8k and 20 mins levels, you would want to seriously reconsider your structure if you want to get anywhere near 120 runners! good luck though as it is a good concept!

ULPOKERSOCIETY

I take the complaints about the Society before, We were a shambles last year as it was only one person doing all the work(and that person wasnt very committed). This year however we are finally hitting our stride and things seem to be falling into place. We have a full committee of people who are willling to do stuff. Our president is on the Clubs & Societies Executive Committee(the people who make most of the policy that governs clubs and socs) and the Student Union Executive.
Our games still have to obey the university laws for another 3 weeks so the games do tend to be rushed but that will all change. Freezeouts will be alot more common semester 2 - There is one on Monday.

Stephen Carmody
UL Poker Society President
UL Societies Officer

ghost-snot

do gmit have a team? i wanna be on it, havent heard anything about poker in gmit, does anyone know what the story is?

Hoki

il put myself forward for the gmit team also , there is no poker there at all this year , think the lads who were running it last year might have graduated or something , no sign of them

NeoSlicerZ

R__J wrote: »

8k and 20 mins levels, you would want to seriously reconsider your structure if you want to get anywhere near 120 runners! good luck though as it is a good concept!

The structure looks just a TAD crapshooty alright.

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Regarding the Blinds structure I understand where you are coming from but we have only one day at the event we could not book the second day :S and are on a tight timeframe we have tried to keep it tournament style while not trying to rush it (ALL IN FRENZY). It was done through a formula made out for a one day event but that was for 20 minute blinds. For the first 2 hours the blinds should not damage even tight players. We have pretty much a 10-11 hour usage of venue for play and i DO NOT want the game to be decided on "who has most chips" time limit so this blindsystem is meeting it halfway in terms of fairness.

As with the costs, yes it is steep and yes it looks like we are trying to make a fast buck, but the costs of fiirst time running this event are quite substancial. The purchase of New Chips (which we hope to have labeles/stamped to make the event more "professional" and to stop the cheating). The venue and setup alone will cost close to €1k , we are getting pro dealers in at later stages also and the equipment that will be bought, and trophies etc just to name a few. At the end of the day this event is NOT a fundraising event for UL or Profit Making event for UL, we just want to hold an intervarsity tournament and hope to keep it running every year and to have good feedback from it so next year we can plan better and improve.


Liam Duffy
UL Poker Society Secretary

Shadowless

ITT-Pat wrote: »

I'd say that it means the €100 team regestration is the the team event prizepool

So the break down would be: €18 per person into the individual prizepool, €2 reg for chips, cards etc and €10 per person for team event prizepool

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

As with the costs, yes it is steep and yes it looks like we are trying to make a fast buck, but the costs of fiirst time running this event are quite substancial.

Can we get some clarification on whether the €100 team registration goes towards a team prizepool or is just an additional registration fee?

If it does amount to registration it means essentially the tourney has an €18 + €12 buy-in which seems a bit heavy on the reg imo.

Theresalwaysone

I will organise a team from UCD. Will PM you soon.

NeoSlicerZ

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

Regarding the Blinds structure I understand where you are coming from but we have only one day at the event we could not book the second day :S and are on a tight timeframe we have tried to keep it tournament style while not trying to rush it (ALL IN FRENZY). It was done through a formula made out for a one day event but that was for 20 minute blinds. For the first 2 hours the blinds should not damage even tight players. We have pretty much a 10-11 hour usage of venue for play and i DO NOT want the game to be decided on "who has most chips" time limit so this blindsystem is meeting it halfway in terms of fairness.

As with the costs, yes it is steep and yes it looks like we are trying to make a fast buck, but the costs of fiirst time running this event are quite substancial. The purchase of New Chips (which we hope to have labeles/stamped to make the event more "professional" and to stop the cheating). The venue and setup alone will cost close to €1k , we are getting pro dealers in at later stages also and the equipment that will be bought, and trophies etc just to name a few. At the end of the day this event is NOT a fundraising event for UL or Profit Making event for UL, we just want to hold an intervarsity tournament and hope to keep it running every year and to have good feedback from it so next year we can plan better and improve.


Liam Duffy
UL Poker Society Secretary

Ahh with the blinds, you get 80BB to start off with, you skip the 75/150 level to boot with 20 min blinds. Bit steep but GL with it.

Mr.Plough

meh, its a p1ss up anyway.

ULPOKERSOCIETY

The idea of this event was for college's Poker Socs/clubs to enter a team into the event. The Poker Soc's would have to pay the €100 team entry fee (which was registration for team into the event) how they raised this cash was at their own discretion, make the players pay it or the soc payed it. Then that would leave the players with only the €20 each entry fee. As I have pointed out the prizepool for the players is made up of €18 (90%) of the €20 and the other €2 goes towards "individual player related items". The €100 (supposed to have been paid by clubs/socs would pay for the actual costs of running the event , therefore the players wouldn't get stuck with that cost they were only building up their own prizepool.)

It seems there aren't as many poker clubs/socs as anticipated but good feedback had come from ones contacted and who replied with interest. I don't want to blank out or ignore the colleges/students who havent got a active Poker Soc etc so they still have the chance of entering but they must pay the €100 team entry fee regardless.

On the blinds question, im unsure how to have a 75/100 blind when the smallest chip value is 50 :S

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Experimental Blinds List (Sheet "3"), more drawn out. Maybe this looks more reasonable ?!?

CIT Poker Soc

alright lads,

CIT will send up a team alright, sunday is a bit of a disaster but we'll get over it!

with regards the blinds, the one above is quite sufficient, you could even get rid of a couple of levels, i cant see it being over in the timeframe you require with the amount of chips in play with that blind structure. depends on turnout, how many ye expecting??

why is there always complaining about blind levels anyway, if ye were good enough ye wouldnt have to worry!!:D

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Well tbh the object of this post was to see how many more teams we will have. I think max capacity is 250 players give or take (that was number given to me by Conference Hall lady :P) but if we could get anywhere between 100-200 players would be great. I already have about 10 teams who have given the Thumbs up so hopefully more keep coming.

The second blinds set posted is roughly 11 hours of blinds, If they were chopped (1 or 2) it wouldn't damage the flow and would free up some extra time for bigger blinds were we to still be playing by then.

Yeah sundays can be a pain . . . sat night out . . . i mean missing the sunday league footie on a sunday *cough*

RedJoker

I'm sure UCC will have at least 1 team up for this.

Also you spelt the name of the hotel wrong, www.kilmurrylodge.com

rayfitz

Hi Guys,

Just two things I personally don't agree with and would like clarification on.

"N.B A College may enter up to 2 teams into the event, but due to extra work required for a college to enter a second team into the competition the Team fee for the second team will be €150"

What "extra work" warrants €50?
I'm also not keen on the concept of a non-playing manager, nor do I see the need for one at all.
I dare say all poker players should be able to fend for themselves.
I know any of our committee lads who plan on going down all want to play. I'd imagine this is the same for other colleges.

Phew!

Aside from that we plan on sending down 2 teams and I'd personally like to wish ye the best of luck with the event.
I'm headin over to Glasgow to see the Hoops that weekend so I shant be attending.

Ray
DCU Pokersoc Chairman 07/08
www.dcupokersoc.com

AdMMM

Looks like a busy year for student poker although may I suggest you start your own thread?

cooker3

lol hijackthreadaments

ditpoker

carfax wrote: »

The student champs isn't an intervarsities really now Pat, come on. Its open to anyone studying (by the way this year we'll be making 100% sure that every player is a student).

Have to stop myself from going off topic here.....Just a quick thought, is this a one day event? If so you may need to allow play continue up until about 4am.

eh...!?!?! NO!

carfax

ditpoker wrote: »

eh...!?!?! NO!

What are you trying to say? and when are you going to change your name to ditpokernomore?

AdMMM

cooker3 wrote: »

lol hijackthreadaments

Sorry, it's the best I could come up with!

ditpoker

while it may be 100% for studenst only, i 100% intend to play! GAME ON!!!

NeoSlicerZ

Erm, how many student poker tournaments are their going to be, lol!

Time to resurrect the winning IPO team!!

Goodluck2me

That last post of a structure is ridiculous. This whole event is ridiculous, I would never travel anywhere to play this farce of a tournament.
€100 Reg on a €20 game LolCPTaments.

I mean you are giving terrible value for money for this.
The team even will no doubt be a shambles and noone will know until its over who had a chance of winning and the extra €50 for a second time is one of the worst angle-shoots of all time.

I really hate this type of rubbish tarnishing poker, just because we are students doesnt mean that we are idiots...

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Ok regarding the €50 extra for a second team - SCRAPPED, Its origins mainly was because i had been advised to charge this extra but i do not feel it should be, there have been (alot of)negative comments towards this and personally i can't even think of or justify making this extra cost other than to discourage colleges from sending a second team. So its gone both teams will have the same entry fee. END of MATTER.

Value for Money, I'm sorry but as far as the players are concerned they are playing a €20 game where most (90% x all players) is the prizepool for them to win. The college Poker Soc is then paying to enter a team, to have a chance of winning an intervarsity event and to take silverware home to college. Become champions , as they say "get bragging rights" ,get publicity, giving their players a chance to compete for their college its a big list. At the end of the day i feel that from the players point of view and the Poker Socs , its worth it and not terrible value.

The team event is there for the colleges point of view as much as players and the leaderboard idea was created to give that extra motive for doing well. I am not going to neglect an important part of the event, I would be keeping an uptodate track on points and the Projector and screen would be used appropriately to keep players/teams informed of standing etc.

Shadowless

DCU PokerSoc wrote: »

Ireland's biggest and best Poker Society presents:

I lol'd that there was no objection to this!
Obviously accepted as fact these days...

CIT Poker Soc wrote: »

Spam

This was great craic last year, we'll deffo be headin down again to retain our title. We've still got the trophy from last year too, engraved and all, so ye won't need to buy a new one!

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

Ok regarding the €50 extra for a second team - SCRAPPED

Sound.

rayfitz wrote: »

I'm also not keen on the concept of a non-playing manager, nor do I see the need for one at all.
I dare say all poker players should be able to fend for themselves.
I know any of our committee lads who plan on going down all want to play. I'd imagine this is the same for other colleges.

www.dcupokersoc.com

There's no mention in the OP that the manager can't play although this is what we were told when UL contacted us originally. Can I take it then that the managers can play now? If I have to sit in a kilwhatsits lodge in Limerick watchin 12 straight hours of poker then at least give me the joy of gettin knocked out in the first hand!


OT: This multiple quote thing is great!! :D

BIG-SLICK-POKER

If u need any gear or a T.D let us know . If we can help out we will .

Hope it all goes well

Neill K

dK1NG

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

At the end of the day i feel that from the players point of view and the Poker Socs , its worth it and not terrible value.

I'm in UL and tbh I dont think I'll be playing in this. Much more likely that I would travel to UCC/ Dublin to play the tournaments they are organising.

Call me cynical, but the UL Poker Soc's rep precedes itself, and nought that has been said here has done anything to change my mind!

The only hope I can see of this not turning into a shambles is if s/o who knows what they are doing was brought on board, al la the above post from Big Slick:

BIG-SLICK-POKER wrote: »

If u need any gear or a T.D let us know . If we can help out we will .

Hope it all goes well

Neill K

ULPOKERSOCIETY

The non-player manager issue seems to be a no go area as noone wants to literally sit around as stated by shadowless :P i assume that the manager of the team is going to be one of the 10 players on the team so the choice is upto the society. There will be a manager/captain on each team and they will still have the jobs of keeping the players forms and team forms for registration etc, but now they are allowed compete. So no "Drawing Straws" scenario for which member of the Poker Soc Committee was designated Manager anymore

dK1NG

ULPOKERSOCIETY wrote: »

Value for Money, I'm sorry but as far as the players are concerned they are playing a €20 game where most (90% x all players) is the prizepool for them to win. The college Poker Soc is then paying to enter a team, to have a chance of winning an intervarsity event and to take silverware home to college. Become champions , as they say "get bragging rights" ,get publicity, giving their players a chance to compete for their college its a big list. At the end of the day i feel that from the players point of view and the Poker Socs , its worth it and not terrible value.

Is the UL Poker Soc paying the €100 for its team?!

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Well as we are a college going to be participating why wouldn't we pay it. To answer your question , yes we are.

ULPOKERSOCIETY

If you are looking for accommodation, check www.jurysinns.com, I think they have a rate of €59 for 1 room/2 bed, which is pretty good.

(Its just inside limerick city and taxi to and from event we could be easily able to organise taxivan on the night if needed and would roughly cost ya 2 or 3 euro each most.

This is probably the cheapest you'll find but its not too bad.

ULPOKERSOCIETY

If you are still interested in attending please contact me asap.

Email = secretary.pokersoc@gmail.com
or pm.

Thanks
Liam

(NOTE the Payout should be 90% not 80% in the Rulebook)

CIT Poker Soc

you say 80% of the 20 euro is payout, i know 2 euro is reg, where is the other 2 euro goin?

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Liam forgot how to do his maths. It's 90% in the pot €2 reg. He lost his calculator so even simple sums are very hard for him.

Stephen Carmody
UL Poker Society President

dK1NG

Sorry for the bump, but just checking if this is still on this wkend?! I've PM'ed teh organisers but no response...

Was thinking of dropping in for a while if it is. Any one got any idea/ anyone heading down to it??

ULPOKERSOCIETY

Hey sorry didnt reply that pm, was gone past few days (GF's debs) so was unable to use the net (nooooo) Yeah the event is still on. Sure if ya around ya should pop in.