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Soccer forum ban appeal

  • 31-10-2007 4:16pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭


    I have been banned for a month now. I was banned for role-playing with myself and insulting a made up boards member. I insulted no one on the forum, rather it was an attack on blind Celtic fans who fail to give Rangers credit. Plus I have a few opinions I want to voice.
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    role-playing with myself

    O_o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Link? And can you explain role playing with yourself? Sounds like you had 2 accounts and interacted with yourself ... am sure thats not it but you post isn't very clear.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where's the ban appeal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Oh yeah please reinstate me back to the soccer forum.

    I made an appeal about a month back. Let me explain role-playing with myself.

    Me:'Bleedin Rangers scum. celtic are irish, tere team isnt very good but i suport them because tere irish.

    I don't think Rangers are scum. I posted this after Rangers destroyed Lyon away, with a fantastic performance, I noticed people were not giving them enough credit due to their insane hatred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Oh I remember this .... hi!

    Anyway have you tried to Pm one of the mods?

    So seeing as this is feedback, you want to give some feedback about the Soccer forum before people come on and give feedback about your post?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Did you report the post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    6th wrote: »
    Link?

    He can't provide one, he can't log out and go in there as Soccer is a private forum.
    Oh yeah please reinstate me back to the soccer forum.

    I made an appeal about a month back. Let me explain role-playing with myself.

    Me:'Bleedin Rangers scum. celtic are irish, tere team isnt very good but i suport them because tere irish.

    I don't think Rangers are scum. I posted this after Rangers destroyed Lyon away, with a fantastic performance, I noticed people were not giving them enough credit due to their insane hatred.

    Try sending a PM to the mod who banned you, politely and clearly outlining your position. Its possible he misunderstood your sarcasm/humour. However if he thinks you were trolling your ban is unlikely to get lifted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    What would Quinner and Bar do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    cornbb wrote: »
    He can't provide one, he can't log out and go in there as Soccer is a private forum.
    Soccer's not private, just read-only by default. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    Pedobear is not impressed with this at all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    The mod who banned you will make the call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I don't know who banned me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I think it was kdjac.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    T4tf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Spankeh wrote: »
    Pedobear is not impressed with this at all
    :D Love the avatar!

    (sorry for being off topic)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    the_syco wrote: »
    :D Love the avatar!
    Yes, its very sneaky

    ;)
    (sorry for being off topic)

    Me too :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Ah it's what you get for your ignorance. :) boards is far from anti-Rangers.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Looks like the honeymoon could be over, boys...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    estebanblahblahblah, if you stop trolling, people will stop banning you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    Terry wrote: »
    estebanblahblahblah, if you stop trolling, people will stop banning you.
    QFT


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Terry wrote: »
    estebanblahblahblah, if you stop trolling, people will stop banning you.
    But then he would have nothing to troll Feedback about ... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Look I just want back in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Look I just want back in.

    I want world peace and good will towards all people, and the new vanquish, and a mansion and a million euros.

    Join the queue for fanciful requests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    fanciful? It's complete injustice. There is no reason I am not allowed to be in. I have contributed to many threads in that forum in a very positive manner. Grant it, perhaps that ban was merited...perhaps, but in that forum there is minimal oppurtunity for me to get into a war of words.

    On the wrestling forum, fitness forum, and some others I get on ok with people, people are holding my past against me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Is it a permanent ban?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I have no idea to be honest. I contacted KDJAC(?)-the Sevilla loving guy, just waiting for a reply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    No, sorry, I was wrong. It wasn't him that banned you.

    It was T4TF according to psi in this thread.

    Seville? He's a Pats fan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    T4tf banned you.

    up to him what happens next.

    kdjac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Yeah but he loves Sevilla? The Eircom league doesnt actually count as a league, does it?
    It's sort of like a joke rather than a competition
    that was a really bad joke. Have to get in touch with this T4tf charachter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yeah but he loves Sevilla? The Eircom league doesnt actually count as a league, does it?
    It's sort of like a joke rather than a competition
    that was a really bad joke.

    See?

    This is why you were banned.

    Your posts come across as trollish, even if it is a joke, something like this would have annoyed me a few months ago (I'm a Shels supporter).

    Fair enough, you said it was a joke, ha ha, but the post that you got banned for, you didn't say that you were joking, and there have been people banned from soccer for posts like yours that weren't jokes, in the past.

    How is a mod supposed to know you were joking? Be a mind reader?

    Also, you are/had been banned from a number of other forums on Boards.ie, so your name may have cropped up as something of a 'problematic' member, therefore you are given little leeway. Why should you be? Do you not think the mods have enough Spammers, Shills, mupptes and idiots to put up with without you adding to an already hard job?

    Furthermore, how many people do you think have been banned from soccer, and other fora, for comments like yours who then go on to claim "I was only joking" as an excuse? Why should you be believed where someone else wasn't believed in the past?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I admit humour, especailly indirect is hard to detect on the internet.

    I was not joking in the comment I made, I was depicting a Celtic supporter who fails to give Rangers credit, because they are immature and stupid.

    Now in fairness, 'hard job' may be pushing it, I understand you guys have a lot to do, but with effort comes dominance and power, which in my opinion is a great tool for motivation.
    I would expect to be merited on individual forums rather than boards.ie as a whole. I could act like a **** on one forum, but then get on well on another(i.e AH, wrestling forum)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I would expect to be merited on individual forums rather than boards.ie as a whole.
    Why?

    Nobody else is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I just feel it's my right. Like seriously, different environments lead to different behavioural patterns. I understand that I don't pay for the service, so I will obviously be judged harshly because of that, but still.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    DesF wrote: »
    Why?

    Nobody else is.

    Actually they are.

    i care not for people who are banned on another forum. if they have access to the forums i mod they are ehh different to others.

    like paranormal i mean wtf we all need to be banned from there for our own good, same with the god channels.

    Wouldnt care if someone was banned from those forums but posting on soccer.


    kdjac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    fanciful? It's complete injustice. There is no reason I am not allowed to be in. I have contributed to many threads in that forum in a very positive manner. Grant it, perhaps that ban was merited...perhaps, but in that forum there is minimal oppurtunity for me to get into a war of words.

    On the wrestling forum, fitness forum, and some others I get on ok with people, people are holding my past against me.

    Quite simply:

    You enterered into a written agreement with the soccer mods wher eyou clearly stated you had read all the rules of conduct in the soccer forum and agreed to abide by them.

    You broke that agreement by acting in a manner contrary to the rules of the forum, thus we revoked your access.

    The mod who banned you may at some stage decide to return your access assuming you agree to abide by the rules in future, then again he may not.
    The second you broke forum rules, you lost whatever hint of "rights" that you might have had.

    In summary, you made an agreement and then you broke the agreement. You have noone but yourself to blame for being banned.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    Oh thank gawd, haven't had a good "fight da powah" thread in ages. I was starting to get the shakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I just feel it's my right. Like seriously, different environments lead to different behavioural patterns. I understand that I don't pay for the service, so I will obviously be judged harshly because of that, but still.
    Why would you act differently on one forum than on another? Do you have some sort of psychological illness that causes you to change personality depending on the subject being discussed?

    You get judged on the site as a whole, not per forum. People have been site banned for acting the prick on multiple forums.

    You haven't really got a leg to stand on here and you know it. You're just hoping that begging will work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I just feel it's my right. Like seriously, different environments lead to different behavioural patterns. I understand that I don't pay for the service, so I will obviously be judged harshly because of that, but still.
    Whoa there buddy.
    Hold your horses.

    You do not have any rights here.

    This is a privately owned site.
    If you break the rules, then you suffer the consequences.

    Nobody, apart from the five owners, has the right to do or say anything on this site.




    Equine references brought to you by a native of the Thoroughbred County.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Well I do have some rights(as well as others) for example if someone says something derogatory, then you have the right to report that person for abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Well I do have some rights(as well as others) for example if someone says something derogatory, then you have the right to report that person for abuse.

    it's not a right, it's a privilege granted to you by the owners. if they wanted to take away this all you can do is grin and bear it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    For what its worth, I think the soccer forum is a better place without young Esteban. Sorry mate, but you just always seem to want to start something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    DesF wrote: »
    See?

    This is why you were banned.

    Your posts come across as trollish, even if it is a joke, something like this would have annoyed me a few months ago (I'm a Shels supporter).

    Fair enough, you said it was a joke, ha ha, but the post that you got banned for, you didn't say that you were joking, and there have been people banned from soccer for posts like yours that weren't jokes, in the past.

    Joking aside if that was his genuine opinion (which it is for some) he should not punished for expressing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Joking aside if that was his genuine opinion (which it is for some) he should not punished for expressing it.

    No, but people should be able to express their opinions in a non-trollerific way.

    If you express an opinion on any subject you can expect to be questioned on it, and if you just keep on with "I just think that", or "That's just the way it is" without backing it up with facts, then you are a troll.

    For example.

    I think Politician A is a robbing liar.

    Why?

    Just do, he robs and lies.

    When has he robbed and lied?

    All them times.

    What times?

    He's a robber and a liar.

    That is trollish behaviour designed to get people's back up, and should incur a ban imo.

    Anyway, this is all moot, young esteban is back in soccer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    ''what its worth, I think the soccer forum is a better place without young Esteban. Sorry mate, but you just always seem to want to start something. ''

    How did that sound so sincere and loving, but at the same time rip through my heart like a dagger?



    Lol at the esteBAN....definetly use that when Cambiasso is found out to have taken prohibted substances...God forbid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    DesF wrote: »
    No, but people should be able to express their opinions in a non-trollerific way.

    If you express an opinion on any subject you can expect to be questioned on it, and if you just keep on with "I just think that", or "That's just the way it is" without backing it up with facts, then you are a troll.

    For example.

    I think Politician A is a robbing liar.

    Why?

    Just do, he robs and lies.

    When has he robbed and lied?

    All them times.

    What times?

    He's a robber and a liar.

    That is trollish behaviour designed to get people's back up, and should incur a ban imo.

    Anyway, this is all moot, young esteban is back in soccer.

    But you didn't question him on his opinion, you said expressing such opinions was reason enough for being banned. I disagree with that, Nobody should be punished for expressing an opinion here provided that opinion is expressed in a civil manner and does not have any legal implications for the owners of this site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    The Muppet wrote: »
    But you didn't question him on his opinion,
    Er, in this thread? This isn't the soccer forum, so I'm not going to carry out a soccer conversation.
    The Muppet wrote: »
    you said expressing such opinions was reason enough for being banned.
    No, I didn't. I said expressing opinions in a troll-like manner was a bannable offence. It is. Being a troll is bannable. Or am I missing something?

    Expressing opinions in a troll like manner = being a troll.

    The Muppet wrote: »
    I disagree with that, Nobody should be punished for expressing an opinion here provided that opinion is expressed in a civil manner and does not have any legal implications for the owners of this site.

    I never said anyone should be banned for expressing an opinion, BUT, if you express an opinion in a troll like way, in the opinion of the mods, then you are going to get banned. That's not my opinion, that's a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Just out of curiosity who are the five owners of the site?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    regi, devore, cloud, ecksor and...


    er


    I can't remember the fifth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Vexorg!

    Vex is the PR man. He's the kind of person that you take one look at and realise there's no way this man could lie to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    LOL.:D


    Seamus move this to Humour, we could use threads like this.


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