JACKS Does everyone hate them

gerryslurry

Every week i hear more an more complaints about pocket jacks most of which are from players who are are incapable of laying down ACE RAG!!
Just wondering how people rate jacks? i find them to be quite a tricky hand to handle always seem to get into trouble an outdrawn with them( last nite i seen 4's 7's and 9's hold up against ace king while i seen jacks murdered four times in similar fashion)

Four of a kind

gerryslurry wrote: »

Every week i hear more an more complaints about pocket jacks most of which are from players who are are incapable of laying down ACE RAG!!
Just wondering how people rate jacks? i find them to be quite a tricky hand to handle always seem to get into trouble an outdrawn with them( last nite i seen 4's 7's and 9's hold up against ace king while i seen jacks murdered four times in similar fashion)

I'll take Jacks anyday of the week. If you can't lay them down when the situation asks then obviously don't play them. Alot of people can't lay down paint full stop, whether its KQ, JQ or JJ.

Mellor

People get into trouble with them alot. But its their fault, not the Jacks.
most people (the average punter) over rate pocket pairs. And because of this they are not aware of the relative strength of JJ. Against AK aipf, JJ is about as strong as 77. If lay in love with ace rag, then they are not letting JJ go on a bad flop.

gerryslurry

Four of a kind wrote: »

I'll take Jacks anyday of the week. If you can't lay them down when the situation asks then obviously don't play them. Alot of people can't lay down paint full stop, whether its KQ, JQ or JJ.

ya so true last nite i seen some one call a raise and a re-raise for 3/4 of his stack(re-raise was 63k he had 85k blinds only 2k-4k) with j-ko, surprise surprise re-raiser had aces flop came k-k-5 but ace of justice on turn!!!lol!

Mr.Plough

i prefer them to tens

Tar.Aldarion

I love jacks, 4th best hand.

Conbro

Jack Nicholson, Jack Bauer, Jack Daniels, Jack from the emporium ye they're all ****. Hate them all.

Mellor

You forgot jack the ripper and jack the lad, not nice people at all

Tar.Aldarion

What about Jack Chan?

Mellor

I never liked Jack Russels, but I accept that some people do.

Lazare

In before lockdown.

Oh, and I love hearing people say 'I hate JJ' or my favourite, 'Aces never win'. YOU never win, Aces do.

Mr.Plough

that lad with the beanstalk aswell

Macspower

I much prefer JJ to the usual 7/4o...

they are a premium hand which have to be played with caution after the flop.... a lot of players don't know how to play them or leave them down when obviously behind...

best way to play them is to hit another one

Trippie

Macspower wrote: »

best way to play then is to hit another one

one paul? i usually aim for two.

Mellor

I know a player who plays in the jackpot regularly, he is a decent player and can get far but he falls for the favourite hand or i hate that hand.
On the bubble of a 40 runner game, shortie goes all in from the CO with 4 BBs, his BB he folds JJ. I have seen him fold it in some terrible spots.

RoundTower

people suck, lol

davidgti

i know about 5 people will never raise with jj always limp even utg middle p or button cash and tourney play aswell as for myself id have to raise:rolleyes:

Blip

gerryslurry wrote: »

( last nite i seen 4's 7's and 9's hold up against ace king while i seen jacks murdered four times in similar fashion)

Variance, I'll take J's for the next 50 hands....I hate Jack Sparrow (J2o) you heard it here first

semibluff

Conbro wrote: »

Jack Nicholson, Jack Bauer, Jack Daniels, Jack from the emporium ye they're all ****. Hate them all.

harsh Jack, giacamo is a nice guy

Lazare

semibluff wrote: »

harsh Jack, giacamo is a nice guy

Yeah Jack from the SE is cool, do you know he moonlights on that Heineken 'memory hotel' ad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ7dUUv20bk

valor

When you have two jacks an ace or king always comes on teh flops its annoying

Lazare

valor wrote: »

When you have two jacks an ace or king always comes on teh flops its annoying

LOL

LuckyLloyd

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phantom_lord

JJ is a monster.

Zab

People hate jacks because they can't play poker postflop.

Tar.Aldarion

Just hit a house with jj there and lost two BI's. Two poeple had a better hand than me

califano

Jaques is a very good and efficient dealer but weve never got on. He's called me out needlessly on numerous things. I could have called him out on chit chatting too much with the locals he knows while dealing but i didnt because thats the sort of guy i am.

semibluff

giacomo - he's italian aidan, not french

califano

semibluff wrote: »

giacomo - he's italian aidan, not french

oh right!. its just that i remember his name badge to be similar to jaques and not just plain old jack.

btw good spot lazare.

rag2gar

semibluff wrote: »

giacomo - he's italian aidan, not french

French are positive EV

Grimebox

Lazare wrote: »

'Aces never win'. YOU never win, Aces do.

im gonna have to use that

Goodluck2me

valor wrote: »

When you have two jacks an ace or king always comes on teh flops its annoying

Pokahstove says that even though Jecks are 50-50 preflop to Anna Kournakovia, Ace King are 65% to hit on the flop, its just that you can hit Jecks on the tern and river that evens it. Peple dont see enouf rivers you see.

Hectorjelly

rounders123 wrote: »

Jaques is a very good and efficient dealer but weve never got on. He's called me out needlessly on numerous things. I could have called him out on chit chatting too much with the locals he knows while dealing but i didnt because thats the sort of guy i am.

wow, hes my favourite dealer

califano

not one of my favourites but i dont have strong feelings on the it.

Tar.Aldarion

His home game has become much better since he left the country and it moved to my house. :P

RichieLawlor

Zab wrote: »

People hate jacks because they can't play poker postflop.

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If you dont like a hand that has a positive expectation then you just dont know how to play it correctly!!
( i must have read that somewhere)

mormank

goodluck2me wrote: »

Pokahstove says that even though Jecks are 50-50 preflop to Anna Kournakovia, Ace King are 65% to hit on the flop, its just that you can hit Jecks on the tern and river that evens it. Peple dont see enouf rivers you see.

please tell me this is NOT true...

Silver-Tiger

phantom_lord wrote: »

JJ is a monster.

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Oh and Jack from Titanic was a nice lad.

CaptainNemo

mormank wrote: »

please tell me this is NOT true...

It IS true!!!1

Every time I have AK and I open shove for like 50BBs sum1 ALWYAS calls me with JJ and I hit a K on the flop and I'm like AWESOME and then the J ALWAYS comes on teh turn and then I get into trouble cos I'm like **** this and **** you all cheaterz, anyway now I just throw em both away they never win lol

fuzzbox

rounders123 wrote: »

Jaques is a very good and efficient dealer but weve never got on. He's called me out needlessly on numerous things. I could have called him out on chit chatting too much with the locals he knows while dealing but i didnt because thats the sort of guy i am.

When the board reads KKKAA and 2 ppl give lots of action, then your house is no good .

califano

fuzzbox wrote: »

When the board reads KKKAA and 2 ppl give lots of action, then your house is no good .

If your house is kings full of jacks i fully agree unless the villains are 'one night at mc cools' and jayminator then your golden because your representing a better hand and no way they could call for a split and if one has the king they will put me on the pocket aces.

Captain Tom

the very first hand of live poker i played i got jacks utg in a freeroll and mucked them cause i was so nervous. then later on i got them again and limped in and flopped quads vs a guy who stacked off with ace high.

true story.

eoin-dubh

great for cash but chit for tourney play..............
jacks seem to flop sets more often v aces in cash games........

Blip

eoin-dubh wrote: »

great for cash but chit for tourney play..............
jacks seem to flop sets more often v aces in cash games........

Huh......Why is that?

Tar.Aldarion

Odds.

tylerdurden94

Its official i HATE JACKS!

CelticPhantom

The thing that I hate about Jacks is that my table is always furthest away from them, and the next break isn't for 20 minutes and I am absolutely bursting.:o:o:eek:

marius

fuzzbox wrote: »

When the board reads KKKAA and 2 ppl give lots of action, then your house is no good .

funny - I was thinking the same thing except I had AAAKQ in my head....

actually...not that funny.....

ollyk1

tylerdurden94 wrote: »

Its official i HATE JACKS!

lol. Well he already had a tenner in so of course he's calling off 55 more like with T8s :rolleyes:

CaptainNemo

ollyk1 wrote: »

lol. Well he already had a tenner in so of course he's calling off 55 more like with T8s :rolleyes:

2 live cards, sure you're coinflipping at worst

DeadParrot

Captain Tom wrote: »

the very first hand of live poker i played i got jacks utg in a freeroll and mucked them cause i was so nervous. then later on i got them again and limped in and flopped quads vs a guy who stacked off with ace high.

true story.

My 1st hand in the IPO I had pocket jacks but with a raise, 2 calls and a re-raise I let them go.
K10, Q10 AQ & AK
Board was 10 high.
True story