Did anybody know this?

RuailleBuaille

"Dublin was originally called Dubh Linn meaning Black Pool? The pool to which the name referred is the oldest known in Northern Europe and currently forms the centre-piece of the penguin enclosure in Dublin Zoo."
I knew the Dubh Linn stuff, but the penguins bit? Please tell me it's true! :D

GLaDOS

Last time I saw the penguin enclosure in Dublin zoo was a crappy little plastic pond, could be wrong though

aidan_walsh

Source?

Lizzykins

The Dubh Linn bit is right but I thought the pool was part of the Liffey probably upstream of the modern city centre.

RuailleBuaille

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Source?

http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/TriviaDidyouknow.html
Some really silly stuff there, like 'In 1986, a 900 year old cheese was found perfectly preserved, in a Tipperary bog' or 'To have good health in the coming year, you should eat an apple on Christmas Eve' Good thing we have the Yanks around, to remind us of our heritage :rolleyes::)

philcsl

The original name was Dubh Linn which was changed to Duvlinia by the Vikings and later anglicised to Dublin.

Baile Atha Cliath means Town of the hurdle ford. This was because the original bridge crossing the Liffey was built on floating hurdles instead of the poles actually being sunk into the riverbed of the Liffey.

Also there used to be five provinces in Ireland, Meath and Westmeath were the province of Meath which were much later split into two counties and merged with Leinster....

That concludes tonights history lesson:D

rossie1977

very interesting, the thing about the west-link bridge and earthquakes is very interesting indeed.

but 10% of county roscommon is brazilian, what?? i don't think i ever met a brazilian, where are they are hiding???

TheMilkyPirate

That site is uber-annoying due to the question marks they put after every statement that they make

D-Generate

rossie1977 wrote: »

very interesting, the thing about the west-link bridge and earthquakes is very interesting indeed.

but 10% of county roscommon is brazilian, what?? i don't think i ever met a brazilian, where are they are hiding???

35% of the population of Gort in Galway is Brazilian or something like that.

meglome

ItchyInside wrote: »

"Dublin was originally called Dubh Linn meaning Black Pool? The pool to which the name referred is the oldest known in Northern Europe and currently forms the centre-piece of the penguin enclosure in Dublin Zoo."
I knew the Dubh Linn stuff, but the penguins bit? Please tell me it's true! :D

As I understand it the back pool is where the Poddle river enters the Liffey. Which is near enough at the millennium bridge, you can see the opening in the quay wall on the south side. So that and the pond in the Phoenix Park being man made would strongly suggest this isn't true.

Hagar

rossie1977 wrote: »

but 10% of county roscommon is brazilian,

No you mis-read that, quoted in full its says "10% of Co. Roscommon have a Brazilian, 10% have a Hollywood and the other 80% are run-of-the-mill hairy arsed culchies."

Hagar

Hagar wrote: »

No you mis-read that, quoted in full its says "10% of Co. Roscommon have a Brazilian, 10% have a Hollywood and the other 80% are run-of-the-mill hairy arsed culchies."

well, I'm one of the 80%

tallus

Lizzykins wrote: »

The Dubh Linn bit is right but I thought the pool was part of the Liffey probably upstream of the modern city centre.

I heard that myself, because the liffey water was brackish it looked almost black.

spurious

The pool was formed where the Poddle met/meets the Liffey.

Baile Átha Cliath was another settlement, a little further up the river.

Seth Brundle

One of the great gaffes in social history took place at Stormont in the 1920s? During an important function, Northern Ireland minister Dawson Bates - who was in attendance with his wife and son - entered the main hall. As the party made their way towards the gathered dignitaries, they were grandly announced "the honourable Dawson Bates, his wife, Lady Bates, and their son Master Bates." (We're not kidding - this really happened!)

he he he

ODS

What a ropey set of facts, such as this -

'Dublin's O'Connell Bridge was originally made of rope and could only carry one man and a donkey at a time? It was replaced with a wooden structure in 1801. The current concrete bridge was built in 1863 and was first called "Carlisle Bridge".'

Such guff. Rope bridge, wooden structure, concrete??? Someone is taking the piss. Some actual facts from Archiseek:

Originally designed and built by James Gandon, O'Connell Bridge was built in 1794-98 and named aftyer the then Viceroy - Lord Carlisle. The original bridge had a hump and was much narrower and Gandon had designed obelisks and plinths for the four corners. In 1880 it was widened and the hump removed - it is now almost square - being as wide as it is long. In 1882 it was renamed after Daniel O'Connell when the statue in his honour was unveiled. Recently the lamps that graced the central island have been restored to their five lantern glory.

Dubh linn translates directly as Cesspool.

Red Hand

I thought the original black pool was somewhere near where Trinity college is now...? Well, thats what our Primary school teacher said.

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Moonbaby wrote: »

Dubh linn translates directly as Cesspool.

What?

Dubh is clearly the Irish for Black.

http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/colours/

MooseJam

I know everything, thats right, everything

tolosenc

The Irish for a black poll would be "linn dubh", due to adjectives following the nouns as Gaeilge.

Some research....

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obl wrote: »

The Irish for a black poll would be "linn dubh", due to adjectives following the nouns as Gaeilge.

Some research....

Ah but, in Old Irish the order of the adjectives and nouns was less important.

Dubh Linn is perfectly cromulent.

mdebets

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

I thought the original black pool was somewhere near where Trinity college is now...? Well, thats what our Primary school teacher said.

The original black pool is the park behind Dublin Castle and in front of the Chester Beaty Library.

January

You can only call yourself a true Dubliner if you were born between the North and c Roads?

Can someone explain what this means? Whats the c Road?

Capt'n Midnight

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

I thought the original black pool was somewhere near where Trinity college is now...? Well, thats what our Primary school teacher said.

No, it was up beside Dublin Castle.

But there was a lad drowned just out side the walls of Trinity back in the days when the sea was there.

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adrieanne__x wrote: »

You can only call yourself a true Dubliner if you were born between the North and c Roads?

Can someone explain what this means? Whats the c Road?

Reckon it's a typo.

I'd say it means between the North Circular Rd and the SouthCR.

longshanks

DesF wrote: »

Ah but, in Old Irish the order of the adjectives and nouns was less important.

Dubh Linn is perfectly cromulent.

such knowledge embiggens us all

in_da_club

growler

longshanks wrote: »

such knowledge embiggens us all

fecking cromwell coming over here taking our jobs and polluting our pools grrrrrr & stuff

Seth Brundle

adrieanne__x wrote: »

You can only call yourself a true Dubliner if you were born between the North and c Roads?

Can someone explain what this means? Whats the c Road?

If you have to ask then you are not a true Dubliner!

oleras

According to old Irish folklore, if the tail of a herring is rubbed across the eyes of a child, it will give immunity against disease for the rest of the year.

Now to find a herring at 4.30am .............hmmmmm

Pherekydes

adrieanne__x wrote: »

You can only call yourself a true Dubliner if you were born between the North and [South Circular] Roads?

Total nonsense. Nobody can choose where they are born. Half the people born in Dublin's maternity hospitals are not Dubliners, let alone true blue Dubs.

godtabh

ItchyInside wrote: »

"Dublin was originally called Dubh Linn meaning Black Pool? The pool to which the name referred is the oldest known in Northern Europe and currently forms the centre-piece of the penguin enclosure in Dublin Zoo."
I knew the Dubh Linn stuff, but the penguins bit? Please tell me it's true! :D

Might got to the zoo today so I'll check it out for you.

But I always though Dubh Linn referred to the Liffey entrance were the civic offices are

Danbo!

The first traffic lights in Dublin were installed at the junction of Merrion Square and Clare Street, on August 27, 1937

Dublin's oldest traffic light is situated beside the Renault garage in Clontarf? The light, which is still in full working order, was installed in 1893 outside the home of Fergus Mitchell who was the owner of the first car in Ireland.

Hmmmm.....

RuailleBuaille

Little wonder the world has such problems, when people from one country can rewrite the history of another and present it as fact :rolleyes: Imagine what American schoolbooks are like? We were shown some back in college and they were hilariously terrifying/ terrifyingly hilarious. I'm off to try and find a link!

Seth Brundle

kearnsr wrote: »

Might got to the zoo today so I'll check it out for you.

But I always though Dubh Linn referred to the Liffey entrance were the civic offices are

Isn't Dubh Linn under Dublin Castle?
Quick check...

In the area occupied by the present Dubhlinn (Castle) Gardens and Coach House, there was a sheltered harbour or dark pool, (on the Poddle), known as the Dubhlinn (dubh = black in Irish), from which Dublin gets its name.

http://www.dublincastle.ie/history1.html

noblestee

noblestee wrote: »

The first traffic lights in Dublin were installed at the junction of Merrion Square and Clare Street, on August 27, 1937

Dublin's oldest traffic light is situated beside the Renault garage in Clontarf? The light, which is still in full working order, was installed in 1893 outside the home of Fergus Mitchell who was the owner of the first car in Ireland.

Hmmmm.....

Maybe it means street light?

jtsuited

man i wish i was living in america. THe outside would seem so much more interesting than it actually is.

Capt'n Midnight

adrieanne__x wrote: »

You can only call yourself a true Dubliner if you were born between the North and south circuar Roads?

Can someone explain what this means? Whats the c Road?

Me was born in the old Coombe.

Anyway it's meant to be between the canals, as they are much older than the roads.

Hagar

Me too, Capt you must be ancient.

Fri_day

I always thought that the "black pool" in question referred to the trickle lake in the Chimpanzee enclosure in Dublin Zoo.

Corruptedmorals

ItchyInside wrote: »

"Dublin was originally called Dubh Linn meaning Black Pool? The pool to which the name referred is the oldest known in Northern Europe and currently forms the centre-piece of the penguin enclosure in Dublin Zoo."
I knew the Dubh Linn stuff, but the penguins bit? Please tell me it's true! :D

The pool refers to a pool in the river Poddle (now underground, streets were built over it) near where it joins the Liffey, round about Wood Quay.

There was a well, a medieval site of eh worship ruined when the Trinity Provost's garden was built, that's what the Trinity confusion is.

Poxyshamrock

Dubh Linn is that park by Dublin Castle that is shaped like a circle with all the footpaths in a pattern.

blinkey 101

baraca wrote: »

That site is uber-annoying due to the question marks they put after every statement that they make

Jesus Wept

blinkey 101 wrote: »

Good bump.

blinkey 101

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Me was born in the old Coombe.

Anyway it's meant to be between the canals, as they are much older than the roads.

who remembers the baino or the iveagh baths .

blinkey 101

The-Rigger wrote: »

Good bump.

Capt'n Midnight

yeah can remember the Tara street baths

blinkey 101

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

yeah can remember the Tara street baths

yea i remember them to with your towel rolled up and under your arm all your mates with you we where easly amused back then:)

The guy

DesF wrote: »

What?

Dubh is clearly the Irish for Black.

http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/colours/

Black as in dirty perhaps, It's probably not a direct translation.