Haha! Beat This!

Silenceisbliss

so i decided to take off all my overclocks there the last day cause i wasnt using my pc heavily. checked out the temps i was gettin...well....beat this (on air cooling) lol





8c idle, and 25c load....haha....ON AIR COOLING

L31mr0d

Try using core temp or TAT to read the temps. I don't trust speedfan.

Silenceisbliss

haha core temp says the same thing, (why doesnt anyone trust speedfan?...it always concurs with all other programs for me)

Anti

because speedfan sometimes uses a tjunction of 85 instead of 100. Nice temps though. If i get under 60c im happy.

Silenceisbliss

well core temp t-junction is 100, and its mimicing the temps of speedfan. same for the core temp of the grafix card and the rivatuner temp, and n-tune temp readouts, they all agree with eachother......:D

Silenceisbliss

....sufficed to say its so cold i can see my breath outside, and i have my windows wide open...:D....but still, 8c!...and the fact that i always have my windows wide open.

unseen

too cold there! Here in greece the temp is ~18-20 these days.

L31mr0d

theres something screwy going on. Theres no way you could be getting those temps on air with a scythe ninja. 8c is way to low. Your ambient temp would have to be around 1c

Silenceisbliss

L31mr0d wrote: »

theres something screwy going on. Theres no way you could be getting those temps on air with a scythe ninja. 8c is way to low. Your ambient temp would have to be around 1c

well not necesarily L31mr0d, my hdd is at around 10c as u can see from speedfan (even if u take that with a large margin of error of 5c off, as room temp), my hdd is in an area with minimal airflow, my scythe on the otherhand has a large airflow going through it, which if u take into account the "wind chill factor" (i dnt know wat the air speed going thru is) but it can still go down by around 40% (and thats not really a statistic i pulled outta my ass....too much, wind chill can make a huge differance) ....years of hiking, have to learn this stuff

and UNSEEN, i like the cold, so i dont mind...its all good

Silenceisbliss

i love how with the title "beat this" it draws all u lads like L31mr0d, anti, and unseen...lol, (NOT COMPETITIVE AT AAAAAAAAAALL):D:D:D

Anti

cpu core of 8c. On air. Thats pretty impossible to be honest. 8c would be considered cold to touch. Yet if you touch the baseplate of your hsf it will be quite warm. On water with a waterchiller setup you wont hit 8c. If you do the mathmatics, you have to shift 115w of heat per cycle to get the cpu at room temps. to to get it to 8 c you would be talking maybe about shifting a fair bit more. What i will do tonight, is take my pc out to the patio underclock and undervolt it to as far as possible and open the case wide open. Ill see if i can get it to a nice low temp....

I think your thermal readings are well off mate. Looks as if your motherboard might have faulty probes.

Silenceisbliss

I promise you, the readings are not inaccurate, the base tubes of copper on the hsf were COLD...not even luke warm, but cold. and the e6600 according to intel runs at " only 65 W, making Core 2 the lowest power consumption desktop chip currently on sale." its not at all unfeasible!,

....if u bring the "mathematics"...the thermodynamics, and the fluid mechanics into play, u would see it is indeed very possible (that ones for you anti:p)

i guarantee you that if you do that anti, you will be proved wrong, especcialy if you do it in the morning like when i took the readings

Silenceisbliss

im not tryin to be big headed *cough* BIGCHROME *cough*, i have nothin but the utmost respect for ye!, the only reason i know wat i know is cause of you guys on boards, but that dont mean i aint gonna talk back!;)

Bigchrome

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

well not necesarily L31mr0d, my hdd is at around 10c as u can see from speedfan (even if u take that with a large margin of error of 5c off, as room temp), my hdd is in an area with minimal airflow, my scythe on the otherhand has a large airflow going through it, which if u take into account the "wind chill factor" (i dnt know wat the air speed going thru is) but it can still go down by around 40% (and thats not really a statistic i pulled outta my ass....too much, wind chill can make a huge differance) ....years of hiking, have to learn this stuff

and UNSEEN, i like the cold, so i dont mind...its all good

Windchill works with humans because of evaporative cooling.. and becuase the wind can penetrate our clothing. This doesn't happen with a metal CPU heatsink under normal conditions. I would be inclined to believe the 20C idle and 35C load it shows under cpu and this is about in line with what you would get at 2.4 with stock cooler at ~10c ambient.

Oh yes, and if anything the heatpipes being cold would signal that heat isn't being transferred very efficiently.

Regards,

"Bigheaded" Bigchrome

Anti

your right it is 65w. I was thinking of a b3 stepping Q6600. I dont not believe you. I just cant understand how the temps are so low. But fair play.

Silenceisbliss

haha, go on bigchrome ya ledge! DEFIANT TO THE END!:D

UNFORTUNATLY, SO AM I, ur actually right there, doesnt affect machienery or metals, good to know! as far as i can tell cpu and hsf are making full contact, (when taken apart, u can see the thermal paste has been sticking to both surfaces fully. (thin layer of AS5))

i dont know wat else i can do to back up my claims, but im not lieing, so if theres somethin else i can do...(someother reading somewhere, from coretemp like, or sumthin) let me know, ill post up wat i can

and anti, do post up wat temps you get later on when its cold outside.

EDIT: ok, the wind chill factor when it comes to inanimate objects (like a hsf) wont allow the temp to go cooler than ambient, but will allow it to cool faster, gotcha.

jasperok

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/CoreTempBeta.zip

dowload
install
screenie
please!!

PogMoThoin

Your temp readings are off m8, no way you can get an idle temp on air lower than room temp. Post up your results when u try new core temp. I'd say speedfan's using 85' as your tjunction therefore your temps are showing 15' lower than they actually are, which is still impressive. I never trust speedfan.

No way a hd could idle @ 10' either. Not possible.

Silenceisbliss

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

....sufficed to say its so cold i can see my breath outside, and i have my windows wide open...:D....but still, 8c!...and the fact that i always have my windows wide open.

who said it was cooler than ambient room temp?... i really dont get everyones disbelief when it comes to this.

anyway, im gonna post up screenies of that in a little while jasperok

jasperok

sound , will you post a picture of prime running with it too - so its obvious by screenshot that its been on load for 20 mins.

awhir

lol lads he most likly just has a dodgy probe.

Silenceisbliss

Anti wrote: »

because speedfan sometimes uses a tjunction of 85 instead of 100. Nice temps though. If i get under 60c im happy.

i forgot to mention Anti that Tjunction for my C2d should be 85c, its 100c for quads.... i know i then said that it was at 100, but i jus knew from a while back that the Tjunction was right (i didnt know wat it should be a while back) i couldnt remember wat it should be, but i knew watei had was right....so i smiled and nodded...

so ya, Tjunction should be 85

wats wrong with orthos now?....now i have to go get prime aswell, jays yer demanding

awhir, look at the temps of everythin else.... w likely is it that all those seperate sensors are fecked?

Silenceisbliss

unnin dual prime now, ill get back tya in 20 mins

PogMoThoin

and run this to read the temp of your hd

nibble

Ok so what is your room temp, It would have to be below 8c, and if it is WTH? Do you keep your pc in a fridge?

nibble

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

i forgot to mention Anti that Tjunction for my C2d should be 85c, its 100c for quads.... i know i then said that it was at 100, but i jus knew from a while back that the Tjunction was right (i didnt know wat it should be a while back) i couldnt remember wat it should be, but i knew watei had was right....so i smiled and nodded...

so ya, Tjunction should be 85

wats wrong with orthos now?....now i have to go get prime aswell, jays yer demanding

awhir, look at the temps of everythin else.... w likely is it that all those seperate sensors are fecked?

Orthos IS prime, just with a gui and it'll auto launch two thread for a dual core.

PogMoThoin

nibble wrote: »

Ok so what is your room temp, It would have to be below 8c, and if it is WTH? Do you keep your pc in a fridge?

Exactly what i was sayin, no way you'd sit in a room thats 8'........therefore your cpu cant idle @ 8', just not possible on air. Actually the lowest temperature you can get is your case temp.

Silenceisbliss

read em weep boys (granted theres a 2c difference)

only jus read the hdd temp thing now, but im headin out (shoudready be there, but hey, ill jus get this posted

nibble

Great, but what's your room temperature??

Anti

nibble wrote: »

Great, but what's your room temperature??

-17c ?

PogMoThoin

Believe me, those temps are not your real temperatures, there is something definitely wrong with your sensors. 10' idle is completely impossible on air cooling..............unless you live in Siberia with no heating.

Whats your room temperature btw? Your real core temp cannot be lower than your room temperature. Physically impossible as it blows that temperature air over your heatsink.

Anti

Right, i pulled my cpu down to almost the bare minimum as this is getting stupidly unstable now. Especially as i have the fire lighting and no air flow to the pc. So here is a shot of the pc at 2.8ghz running everest stress test for 10:00 mins.

jasperok

sorry dude i didnt see the orthos! coretemp/orthos al the one.

as said the numbers look nice but these are not the real temps of an air cooled system.

So either a: you know whats going on and just having some fun or b:dont even think about overclocking till your gettting reliable temps reported. have you tried flashing to the latest bios?

kind of interesting!

Silenceisbliss

ya, i live in siberia.:D you got me! typical irish weather, wat can i say!

look lads, i said i could see my own breath it was so cold, so ya, it was prob 5c or summit in my room., i jus thought it would be a laugh to throw up a screeny of those temps seein as it was on a scythe!, jus the room temp i always sit in, (im a cold person seemingly)

guarantee you those temps are 100% legit,

anti, im actually REALLY surprised u didnt get lower than that with ur case out in this cold.

now, back to the wodka:D

awhir

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

ya, i live in siberia.:D you got me! typical irish weather, wat can i say!

look lads, i said i could see my own breath it was so cold, so ya, it was prob 5c or summit in my room., i jus thought it would be a laugh to throw up a screeny of those temps seein as it was on a scythe!, jus the room temp i always sit in, (im a cold person seemingly)

guarantee you those temps are 100% legit,

anti, im actually REALLY surprised u didnt get lower than that with ur case out in this cold.

now, back to the wodka:D

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

who said it was cooler than ambient room temp?... i really dont get everyones disbelief when it comes to this.

anyway, im gonna post up screenies of that in a little while jasperok

:rolleyes:

Silenceisbliss

ok, tbh, by "it" i meant the hsf....psh....how could you take 'actual room temp' as being cooler than ambient room temp....how does make sense?...ok, i slurred my vocab a little aswell, but i was at the "wodka", so u cant blame me! and maybe it does actually make sense, but you...cant blame me for that either!...(why am i on the internet now....why am i alone after a night out?....somethins not right................im goin ta bed, OUT)

Silenceisbliss

howz about a pat on the back....howz about a "well done seb"...howz about NOT kickin a guy in the ballz when he does somethin good....:D

L31mr0d

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

howz about a pat on the back....howz about a "well done seb"...howz about NOT kickin a guy in the ballz when he does somethin good....:D

hmm... in that first screeny you just posted above, your CPU is reading as being clocked at 1.6Ghz in CPU-Z??? Something very screwy is going on. Do have thermal throttling enabled? Do you have it set to thermal throttle at like 20'c?

jasperok

era jabus never saw the 1.6Ghz.
its like saying look guys if i push my car i dont use any petrol!

Silenceisbliss

ah come on now guys, speedstep!...ring any bells?...intel feature that sets my multi to 6 instead of 9 when theres no cpu intense activuty, its a power saving feature, (ul also notice that the voltage is lower at idle than at load)

nibble

You still haven't said what the room temp is.

Silenceisbliss

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

it was prob 5c or summit in my room

eh....yes...yes i did

awhir

LOL 5c do you know how cold that is ?

PogMoThoin

ffs, your fridge is 5'C, get real man

Silenceisbliss

wouldnt surprise me to be honest! sounds about right. maybe it aint 5c on the button, but evidently, its sumwhere below 8c, and 5c sounds like a realistic guess

ive said numberous times that it was really cold, windows open, i could see my own breath.... the fact is that i will sit in those temperatures in my room quite contently.

i know 8c is a very (as weve seen "unbelievably") low temp for a core to run at on air.... thats why i started this thread and named it "haha, beat this"...EMPHASIS ON THE "HAHA", i expected to give ppl a laugh outta this, instead im being forced to defend myself!

PogMoThoin

How can inside your house be colder than it is outside. Here. Not possible.

Silenceisbliss

http://uk.weather.yahoo.com/EIXX/EIXX0026/index_c.html


(limerick) the lows are 6-8....

unless...maybe my room defies the laws of thermodynamics.....ooooooooooh:D

great unwashed

awhir wrote: »

lol lads he most likly just has a dodgy probe.

maybe he has his probe out the window...

PogMoThoin

I fcukin give up :eek: (bangs his head against the wall).

Btw thats tomorrows weather u lookin at, todays low is 8'

Silenceisbliss

OH MY GOD...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!.....UR ALL INVITED DOWN TO MY PLACE TO CHECK IT OUT THEN!

seemingly ive achieved the impossible!, please bring scientists, physisists....bring the freekin guiness book of world records!!!:eek:

seriously, im havin a great laugh with this, i actually didnt think 8c was over the top impressive....maybe i can get even lower....:rolleyes:...(hmmm, a challenge to confluster all of ye even more....)

how low do i have to get it before im the result of a cuncussion PogMoThoin?:D

great unwashed

did Torvalds get those low-energy processors up and running anyone know?