Scalp Psoriasis

Feelgood

Hey guys,

I seem to have a small touch of scalp psoriasis for about the last
year and I cant shift it. Its only little small patches about the the size
of the top of your finger. Sometimes it clears up nicely and then a lot of
the time it gets very flaky.

Has anyone any recommendations apart from the usual, T-Gel or Nizoral
methods?. Is there maybe something I am eating thats causing it?. Or
possibly washing my hair too much?.

Any insight would be most welcome....cheers....

smilingeyerish

Hey Feelgood!

I have psoriasis on my scalp too, sounds like i have some larger patches than you though. i have been to my doctor and skin specialists in blackrock clinic and they have given me perscritions. over the past few years i have had 2 lotions and 2 creams all of which clear it up for a short while but never permanently. and of course a coal tar shampoo is always recommended, but as im sure youve found out they are not the best solution. not to be a pessimist but there is no cure for psoriasis so its a case of using those creams and thats it you just have to put up with it.

just go to your doctor who can either perscribe something or will refer you to a specialist.

its a really annoying thing to have isnt it? it really embarassing and i wish i could get rid of it!!

oh yeah should have said its nothing to do with your diet or frequency of hair washing,psoriasis is jsut your skin cells reproducing much more quickly than they should leaving an excess of skin that look like scaly patches on your scalp. its just a condition that you develop or inherit. bad luck...!

Bethany

You might find that a shampoo called Capuchine available in health shops is useful at keeping it under control. There is no cure as you know

lilRedSmurf

There is a book that you have to check out. I've met and worked a little with the guy who wrote it a few years back and I've seen the results first hand. If you stick to the dietary program you usually have one flare up and then it clears up completely! As is total clear up. And you dont have to stick to it the rest of your life or anything. Just go back on the diet if you see any signs and slowly reintroduce problem foods to see what your trigger is.

He takes referals from Yale Medical School when they think they cant do anything more for them. Very very reputable information. The paper back is available on amazon.com


Healing Psoriasis: The Natural Alternative
by John O. Pagano

dubdcugirly

Cant offer a solution but I used to get flaky scabs/spots on my scalp every now and then got very annoyed coz as u said TGel etc didnt work,
went to the doc and it turned out to be a react to hair dye and by that I dont even get an all over dye I just get highlights :eek: seemly alot of women think they hav psoriasis but its actually this!

Rantorama

I found this Boots Dry Scalp Soothing Lotion to be really good at calming down the itching/ flaking.
http://www.boots.ie/main.asp?pid=3987

Bendihorse

I used to have two spots of it on each of my big toes, now they have cleared up and i have a largeish patch on the front of one shin, it drives me insane... The only think i have found that helps it is exposure to the sun. I have noticed in the last few days that i am now developing a patch on my right fore arm... I find that any flare up that i ever get is directly related to a stressful episode occuring in my life...

smilingeyerish

that sounds like a good book lilredsmurf, i had a look for it on amazon and the reviews it was given seem really really positive! doctors have always said that its nothing to do with diet to me but the same was said to the readers of this book and they said its advice has worked well for them. the diet it advises seems quiet restrictive though but if it cures it its defo worth a try!

dunno if im allowed do this but i took a bit of one of the reviews to put into this post...:

Diet is rather strict while the skin is healing--then you can play around with what works for you and more importantly, what doesn't. In the meantime, stop eating tomatoes, white potatoes, eggplant, peppers of any kind (except black pepper), vinegar and alcohol--and if you smoke, either quit or cut down to 3-4 cigarettes a day. Tobacco is a "nightshade" and exceptionally toxic to the psioratic. Increase your fruits and vegetables. No red meat (including pork). Limit all dairy products to nonfat or 1% milk fat, and even then, limit your consumption. And (obviously) limit or eliminate sugar. Cut out gluten products (pasta, breads, cakes and cereals). Take a tablespoon of flaxseed oil each morning and evening--and also two capsules of Omega 3 fish oil capsules, both morning and evening. Keep flaxseed oil in refrigerator and Omega 3 fish oil caps in freezer. These few guidelines will get you started until you can read this book. Sounds like alot, but clear skin will be worth it!

i LOVE tomatoes and eat lots of them so maybe its a reason for my psoriasis?

anyway, think ill go order that book now!

thank you!

Feelgood

Thanks for the info guys, great help!. It is very annoying alright though I suppose things could be a lot worse..:)

Alessandra

I've had psoriasis on my scalp for about 10 years and it drives me insane. As you know there is no cure. I find those creams cocois etc a help but just too much hassle letting them soak. I find the tar shampoo damages the hair as well. I just wash my hair every single day and really scrub the scalp. I have noticed an improvement when I am in sunnier climes but it just tends to flare up in rainy old Ireland. Also heavy drinking for some reason sends it into a frennzy I find. Drinking lots of water in my case helps a bit as well. Try not too scratch it. Tea tree shampoo should ease the itchiness.

smilingeyerish

alessandra, i have used that cocois cream too but its so thick and greasy that it is really hard to wash out,i have been using a combination of trying to soak it up with talc first and then using a coal tar shampoo to try wash it out the morning after i applied it the night before. this kinda of works for me.just wondering how you have coped with this? do you know of a better way of washing it all out of your hair without having to have a few washes over a few days?

lilRedSmurf

smilingeyerish wrote: »

doctors have always said that its nothing to do with diet to me but the same was said to the readers of this book and they said its advice has worked well for them. the diet it advises seems quiet restrictive though but if it cures it its defo worth a try!

I actually come from a very scientific backgroud but Ive been in natural medicine for nearly 8 years now and I have to say that some of the most dramatic and visible results I've ever seen were when I was working with this guy.

Physiologically how it works is that your skin is a secondary excretory organ (gets rid of waste material) but it shouldnt have to work this way because when it does its not very good at it. Psoriasis is linked to a condition called leaky gut syndrome and the very restrictive nature of the dietary program is what allows the intestinal wall to recover from this condition.
When you have leaky gut ( it is what it sounds like...) there are tiny perforations in the intestinal wall that allows the often toxic material that is being processed in there to get out into the rest of the body. The body naturally tries to get rid of the toxins and this is when the secondary function of the skin comes into play.

I know the western medical community still maintains that there is no known cause and there is no known cure but you've gotta remember that its called the "practice" of medicine for a reason. They dont always know how medicines work or why diseases react the way they do to certain treatments. (try asking a doctor why and how prozac works! Stumps the hell out of the molecular biologists who synthesize the stuff nevermind the docs who prescribe it!) There are a hell of a lot more options out there then people realise.

Alessandra

smilingeyerish wrote: »

alessandra, i have used that cocois cream too but its so thick and greasy that it is really hard to wash out,i have been using a combination of trying to soak it up with talc first and then using a coal tar shampoo to try wash it out the morning after i applied it the night before. this kinda of works for me.just wondering how you have coped with this? do you know of a better way of washing it all out of your hair without having to have a few washes over a few days?

I haven't really had a problem in washing out the cocois? I used to leave it on overnight then shower next day as normal using polytar and then regular shampoo to hide the tar smell. Just use a little extra shampoo maybe and really hot water is essential..I'm not sure but maybe the talc might be causing the cocois to form a paste and thus making in more difficult to wash out? Personally, even if my psoriasis is quite mild I still wash my hair everyday because of the constant itching and unsightly flaking. It makes it easier to manage (less build up). Hope this helps

Feelgood

I have never heard of Cocois, nor was it mentioned to me!. Again thanks for the insight. Just bought some on Ebay and will see how it works out. Also that book mentioned earlier seems like a good buy for anyone with psoriasis.

You've been a great help thank you all!. Hopefully the cocois will help to keep it at bay...

Feelgood

smilingeyerish wrote: »

over the past few years i have had 2 lotions and 2 creams all of which clear it up for a short while but never permanently.

Hi Smiling,

Forgot to ask, I presume you are refering to steroid creams?. Can you actually get these in a pharmacy without having to go to a dermatologist?.

Cheers!.

smilingeyerish

yeah one is called Betacap and its in a kind of liquid form so its easy to apply and wash out. that is a streroid one. i cant remember the name of the cream though, but i had to get it on perscription. a specialist in blackroack gave me all three of those to use at the same time,on alternating nights obviously! so it was cocois,betacap and the third cream that was in a brown and white tube (i just used the last of it last week and cant remember the name but when i collect my next perscription ill let you know).

your advice on why it happens does smake sense and i think i will defo be tryin out that book.thanks!

in terms of washing creams out...well i always wash my hair everyday too because i have naturally greasy and light hair anyway but i find that the creams are so thick and greasy themselves that they wont wash out properly, its like putting a thick vaseline in your hair. i have only recently started using talc in an attempt to soak it up and it helps a bit more than just washing it.it doesnt really make a paste or anything. im obviously the only person with this problem!

oh and the coal tar shampoo i use is called capasal. its kinda expensive but it works best IMO. except for the smell of course! yuk!

Feelgood

smilingeyerish wrote: »

oh and the coal tar shampoo i use is called capasal. its kinda expensive but it works best IMO. except for the smell of course! yuk!

Hey smiling,

Looks like you can pickup that Capasal shampoo on Ebay also fairley cheap...
£2 Sterling?.

Will try that too!...

Thanks.

smilingeyerish

Feelgood wrote: »

Hi Smiling,

Forgot to ask, I presume you are refering to steroid creams?. Can you actually get these in a pharmacy without having to go to a dermatologist?.

Cheers!.

just remembered the name of the other cream, its dermovate and yeah its a steroid cream

Feelgood

smilingeyerish wrote: »

just remembered the name of the other cream, its dermovate and yeah its a steroid cream

Thanks Smiling,

Very much appreciated. I ordered some Cocois off Ebay there last week after reading suggestions posted here. I hadn't heard of it before. Been using it now daily for about 4 days and it seems to be doing the trick!. My patches are clearing right up and aren't half as itchy and flaky.

Im gonna continue to use it and will posted an update in a week or so...

Again thanks for your help guys....:)

DonFred

Hey Feelgood, how is the Cocois working for you now? I also have scalp psorasis and its driving me mad!! Do you use a special shampoo like capcal or just normal head and shoulders?

RIRI

lilRedSmurf wrote: »

Healing Psoriasis: The Natural Alternative
by John O. Pagano

Hi
I have used a version of this method and it's definately worth the effort. I had quite bad psorasis for years & this totally cleared it up in abut 6 weeks, that was 5 years ago now.
Initially remembering what not to eat is a bit tricky but after only a few weeks you start to notice certain foods affecting your skin/scalp. You keep intorducing the foods one at a time after 6 weeks until you find the one(s) triggering the psorasis - then you just avoid them.

It might sound restrictive but it's well worth it. Reducing stress, sunshine, drinking lots of water and a tea tree / lavendar natural shampoo & conditioner can help.

Alessandra & Smilingeyerish, I'm no expert but it sounds to me like you're using lots of products at once & consequently lots of scrubbing your scalp - the chemicals & hot water might just be irritating your scalp. I'm not suggesting you stop washing your hair ar anything but try even a day or two without creams & lotions and just rinsing your hair with water - worth a try
HTH

Minfadlek

A natural remedy is "Tea Tree oil" mixed with a carrier oil like Olive or Almond. Apply generously and leave as long as you can.
Also good is "Argan oil", but difficult to source in Ireland.

DonFred

Food plays no part in the cause of psorasis!

MizzLolly

Deal with it naturally, don't put any chemicals near your skin if it's already irritated. And don't worry about your diet, I can't see it affecting anything like that really. Get yourself into Lush and try a lil bar called 'snake oil'. It's less than a tenner and works well. Good luck!!

Feelgood

DonFred wrote: »

Hey Feelgood, how is the Cocois working for you now? I also have scalp psorasis and its driving me mad!! Do you use a special shampoo like capcal or just normal head and shoulders?

Hey Don Fred,

Have to say Cocois is the Sh!t. Working out really well for me to be honest. It hasn't clear it all up to the point that its not there anymore though I can't even notice it now, plus its not itchy or flaky at all....

Only thing is I gave up smoking about 6 weeks ago too, so I dont know if this has maybe contributed to its healing also?.

I would definitely give Cocois a try, like I said I only have very small patches though it has really helped. Nothing to lose really. You might get a good deal on Ebay if your looking for it.

Paid about £13 Sterling for 2 tubes.....

luckat

Dunno if it works - sounds a bit unlikely - but the Turks have a system for psoriasis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_fish

Tea Leaf

Too say that food has no impact is folly.
Food has a lot to do with how we grow, how we age, what our moods are etc.

After years of trying to get rid of psoriasis from the outside in, I opted for the inside out approach which was eliminating certain foods from my diet and sticking to that discipline.

I have been psoriasis free for three years now.

Just sayin'.

Susannahmia

Hey this might be a long shot but I only get psoriasis when I'm stressed or run down. Since I started taking echinacea and pharmaton, I haven't gotten any.

ntlbell

it might be a bit over the top for your issue but a guy i worked with had an operation to treat very bad psoriasis and was completely "cured"

N8

Amateur scientist hits on cure for 14-year itch

a Sligo man might have part of the answer????

donaghs

Interesting about the Argan oil. Olive oil and Johnson's Baby Oil have traditionally been used for Cradle Cap on children, to sooth the itch, and loosen the scaling. Then it can be washed out.

Mizu_Ger

I've had eczema for years and have been to a consultant from time to time. For my scalp she always tells me to steer clear of the coal tar type shampoos as they are too aggressive and aggrevate my scalp more than anything else. She recommended using 2 shampoos (1. La Roche-Posay "Normaker" and 2. Any herbal shampoo) and alternating them each time I wash my hair. Then use any hair conditioner. She also gave me a prescription called Bettamousse, a foam to massage into the scalp. This treatment works fine for me (its not 100% though).

I think that the main point is to keep the scalp clean, but not aggrevate it.

Tree

i dont think clean seems to help tbh. it's cell calming stuffs you'd need, coal tar is one of the better ones at reducing cell division.

Eddie108

there is a video on u-tube explaining cure for eczema (amazing free eczema cure from Philippines).it worked for me.

brundlefly

betnovate scalp application on prescription...works for Seborrhoeic eczema...many a night spent awake and in agony and this stuff works much better than coal tar etc ...try not to scatch before application as it can sting a bit....but 15 seconds of sting outweighs pulling out your hair all day and night !!

Gael23

I know this in an old thread but I have suffered from this for a long time now. You need to get a prescription for Bettamousse scalp application which I use twice a day and I also use stieprox shampoo. Over the years i've tried all the tar ones but to no great effect and I did use the betnovate but I find the bettamousse very good.

Scawgeen

Feelgood wrote: »

Hey guys,

I seem to have a small touch of scalp psoriasis for about the last
year and I cant shift it. Its only little small patches about the the size
of the top of your finger. Sometimes it clears up nicely and then a lot of
the time it gets very flaky.

Has anyone any recommendations apart from the usual, T-Gel or Nizoral
methods?. Is there maybe something I am eating thats causing it?. Or
possibly washing my hair too much?.

Any insight would be most welcome....cheers....

I'd say first of all to have it diagnosed by a doctor, it may be something else other than Psoriasis. If it is Psoriasis ask his opinion about using Polytar shampoo. I use it now and again and it works wonders, smells awful though.

Tree

Yeah everyone likes different tar shampoos. I'm using polytar at the moment and reckon i'll go back to capasal.

Feelgood

Hey guys,

Its been a long time since I originally posted this problem and decided it was time to update you all!.

Right well to start my psoriasis got a lot worse over the last year, I ended up with 3 rather large patches and two very small ones right under my fringe so I had to comb my hair down to cover them. What a hateful bloody disease!!.

Ok so I have basically tried everything in the last year. Capasal, T-Gel, Niqourol, Cocois and a 180 quid a session dermatologist. I also tried that guy from Sligos cure that was posted and it didn't do a tap. 50 quid a bottle too.

Next I bought Dr. Paganos book based on Edgar Cances theories. I recommend every buy this book. It will give you a true understand of why you have psoriasis and whats causing it. It really is a MANDATORY read for anyone who is suffering and just look at the comments on Amazon about it. Now there is a diet to follow and if you do follow it apparently you will be cured or see an improvement within 3-4 weeks. I honestly believe that this is true after reading it, but unfortunately the diet regime is extremely difficult to follow. It basically tells you what not to eat, but doesn't explain what to eat!.

One of the core items of the diet is regular intake of Saffon tea. Its actually not bad, it tastes a bit like green tea but the only place that I could find it was in the states and it is also pretty expensive. Baar.com seems to be the only place to get it, though shipping is pretty much instant around 2-3 days.

Now for the really really good news!!. I can safely say I have managed to control my psoriasis. I tried something and it works wonders. I URGE you to go out and try it and I am pretty sure you will be delighted with the results. It took me about 2k to find this out and since I did my psoriasis is pretty much 80 - 90% gone...

Are you ready for it???......

APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, yep it was that simple 1.80 a bottle. I applied it neat to my lesions you could actually see them reducing hugely within about 20 mins. Keep it going a 2 weeks later, my lesions have pretty much cleared up and itching is completely gone. I have also started drinking it now too with honey every morning and I feel class.

Right so my theory is that the apple cider vinegar will control your psoriasis in the short term cant vouch for long term yet as its only been around 3 weeks and after reading Dr. Paganos book you will understand what has to be done in the long term (A lot of it has to do with the digestive system and intestines, acid verses alkaline etc), the good news is that apple cider vinegar when drank is really good for this also. Though for some reason Pagano doesn't recommend it....

Anyway, would you mind letting me know if this works out for you or how it went if you try it??. Would be very interested to see how it panned out for other people.

Also note I have only tried this with scalp psoriasis, cant really vouch for the rest of the body...

Feelgood

lilRedSmurf wrote: »

There is a book that you have to check out. I've met and worked a little with the guy who wrote it a few years back and I've seen the results first hand. If you stick to the dietary program you usually have one flare up and then it clears up completely! As is total clear up. And you dont have to stick to it the rest of your life or anything. Just go back on the diet if you see any signs and slowly reintroduce problem foods to see what your trigger is.

He takes referals from Yale Medical School when they think they cant do anything more for them. Very very reputable information. The paper back is available on amazon.com


Healing Psoriasis: The Natural Alternative
by John O. Pagano

Note this is the book I am talking about....

Johnny Utah

Feelgood wrote: »

Hey guys,





Now for the really really good news!!. I can safely say I have managed to control my psoriasis. I tried something and it works wonders. I URGE you to go out and try it and I am pretty sure you will be delighted with the results. It took me about 2k to find this out and since I did my psoriasis is pretty much 80 - 90% gone...

Are you ready for it???......

APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, yep it was that simple 1.80 a bottle. I applied it neat to my lesions you could actually see them reducing hugely within about 20 mins. Keep it going a 2 weeks later, my lesions have pretty much cleared up and itching is completely gone. I have also started drinking it now too with honey every morning and I feel class.

Hi Feelgood,


I have scalp psoriasis as well. I'm in my mid-20s, and I think I developed the condition about 12-18 months ago. At least, I never noticed before that time anyway.

At its worst, I would get a ridiculous amount of white flakes on one of my shoulders and my back. At first, I thought it was just a bad case of dandruff, but it just kept getting worse. It got to the stage where I was literally covered in flakes, and could no longer wear dark coloured t-shirts or tops.

I decided to go to a consultant dermatologist, and was diagnosed with scalp psoriasis. I have large patches on one side of my scalp and at the back of my scalp. I was prescribed a cream (Benovate I think), and also Betacap liquid and I'm also using capasal shampoo regularly. I also cleaned up my diet as I heard that can help.

Although the medications have improved my condition somewhat, I'm still far from cured. I'm still taking the Betacap about twice a week to try to control the condition and as far as I understand controling psoriasis is about the best I can hope for. I still get a fair bit of scaling/flakes, which means I can really only wear white t-shirts/tops. I am at the stage now, where I'll try anything if it will give me a bit of relief. I just have a couple of questions, which I'd appreciate if you could answer first:


(1) Where did you hear about the vinegar cure? Was it in the book you mentioned?

(2) Can I get the apple cider vinegar in Tesco or a supermarket?

(3) And, how do I apply it to my scalp? Do I just pour it on freely and let it soak in overnight?




Thanks

Feelgood

Johnny Utah wrote: »

(1) Where did you hear about the vinegar cure? Was it in the book you mentioned?

(2) Can I get the apple cider vinegar in Tesco or a supermarket?

(3) And, how do I apply it to my scalp? Do I just pour it on freely and let it soak in overnight?

Thanks

Hi Johnny,

I feel your pain, I'm actually mid to late 20's too and mine started out with a very small patch and then just exploded and I suffered an awful lot of hairloss with it...hoping that all will grow back fine..

1) I basically tried every shampoo and cream, some where not too bad they weren't really helping to be honest. Also tried Aloe Vera gel which is actually pretty good but is a bit of a whore to wash out after an hour in your hair.

I actually stumbled on the apple cider vinegar while browsing the net and said sure feck it I've tried everything else what harm can it do. Here is the forum page that I found it on.

http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?p=163605

If you then actually google apple cider vinegar and psoriasis together, you will find an awful lot of pages talking about it. So this is basically where I got the idea.

2) You can get Apple cider Vinegar anywhere. I got mine in Super Value, in the italian cooking section. (Don Carlos). Mental isn't it??.

3 I have actually been just dabbing it on my psoriasis with cotton buds or sometimes just the top of my finger.

I would seriously recommend the book as well Johnny, it will help you understand that its not actually a skin disease that we have and that the psoriasis lesions on our skin are the result of something completely different.
I am totally sold on this notion after reading the book. This is why none of the creams and shampoos work, because we are trying to treat a skin disease when its really its a digestive system disease..

Also I have first hand knowledge that both nicotine chewing gums and patches are probably the worst thing you can use if you have psoriasis. In fact I actually thing my psoriasis started from using smoking cessation treatments.

Hope this helps and keep the head up. After 2 years it took just me just 2 weeks to get it sorted...

Any more queries just shout...

Johnny Utah

Hi Feelgood,
sorry about the delay in replying, I've just been very busy this week. I got the vinegar- it's the Don Carlos one called "Cider Vinegar" with a picture of apples on the label. I assume this is the right one?

I actually applied it onto my scalp last night before I went to bed. I literally just poured it on freely, and it smells really strong, but I'm willing to give it a go for two weeks at least. I usually wash my hair once every 2 days, so my plan is to apply the vinegar to my scalp the night before I wash my hair. That way, the vinegar will get about 12 hours to soak into my scalp overnight. I think my psoriasis might be worse than yours because you said you have small patches, whereas mine covers most of the right side of my scalp and also at the back of my scalp. Anyway, I'll try out the vinegar, and I'll report back in about 2 weeks.





I also had a consultation with my dermatologist on Thursday. Anyway, I mentioned the possibility that apple cider vinegar could cure psoriasis, and all he said was 'yeah, some people use that' He didn't elaborate or say whether I should try it.
The appointment only lasted about 2-3 mins (no exaggeration) and cost 200 euro, so I'm thinking of looking for a new dermatologist. If you know of a good dermatologist in the Dublin area let me know.

I've also been to other hair loss specialists who've given me all sorts of creams for my scalp, but tbh, none of them have worked in terms of eliminating or even improving my psoriasis. The betacap is the best I've experienced so far, and even then it only lessens the problem.





You're right when you say it's not a skin disease; I went through a stressful period a while ago and my diet also suffered- I reckon this is what first caused my psoriasis.

Gael23

Betacap is very good. In reality,there is no cure its just which treatment provides the best relief

This is fascinating reading. I have had psoriasis for the last 5 years (i'm 28 now). It's a fairly large lesion on my right shin, and a smaller one near the knee.
Is the diet really tough to stick to? I ask as I am usually about at nighttime, when you might not have a choice in what you eat!
And the aple cider vinegar sounds intrigueing. It's just applied neat, before bed?

Feelgood

Hi Feelgood,
sorry about the delay in replying, I've just been very busy this week. I got the vinegar- it's the Don Carlos one called "Cider Vinegar" with a picture of apples on the label. I assume this is the right one?

No worries, have been bit busy myself..That is the one I am using Johnny yeah, think they are all generally the same anyway. It is possible though that organic Apple Cider Vinegar from a health shop would probably be better again as it wouldn't be treated with any mad chemicals. Though reading the Don Carlos label it seems to be all natural anyway.

I actually applied it onto my scalp last night before I went to bed. I literally just poured it on freely, and it smells really strong, but I'm willing to give it a go for two weeks at least. I usually wash my hair once every 2 days, so my plan is to apply the vinegar to my scalp the night before I wash my hair. That way, the vinegar will get about 12 hours to soak into my scalp overnight. I think my psoriasis might be worse than yours because you said you have small patches, whereas mine covers most of the right side of my scalp and also at the back of my scalp. Anyway, I'll try out the vinegar, and I'll report back in about 2 weeks.

Give it a good try anyway, sure what have you to lose?. What I would suggest though is apply the vinegar every night if you can. Just for an hour then rinse your hair out with water. No need to wash it out. Though you should see your lesions starting to shrink and dry up significantly after about 4-5 days. Now remember I said mine is 80 - 90% gone, i.e. I still have it to some extent but I have managed to control it. What I am saying is that its not a miracle cure, but if it reduces the severity of the lesions then its a very cheap treatment isn't it?. I'm basically putting on my scalp every second day now just to keep my lesions at bay.

I also had a consultation with my dermatologist on Thursday. Anyway, I mentioned the possibility that apple cider vinegar could cure psoriasis, and all he said was 'yeah, some people use that' He didn't elaborate or say whether I should try it.
The appointment only lasted about 2-3 mins (no exaggeration) and cost 200 euro, so I'm thinking of looking for a new dermatologist. If you know of a good dermatologist in the Dublin area let me know.

Yeah well my thinking behind this is that obviously they aren't going to tell you to use Apple Cider Vinegar?. Sure if it was that easy they wouldn't be getting paid 200 for 3 minutes work and all those ****ty cream making companies would be well out of business too. Its a complete farce is what it is. I've never actually met someone who was successfully treated by a dermatologist for anything. If ACV works for you well you just found your proper treatment for what 2 euro a bottle?.

You're right when you say it's not a skin disease; I went through a stressful period a while ago and my diet also suffered- I reckon this is what first caused my psoriasis

Did you order a copy of that book yet?. Definitely get it and have a read, it will blow you away and the guy that wrote it isn't even a dermatologist. Hes a bloody back specialist!. Its a very encouraging book though, particularly when you see his case studies.

Feelgood

Papa Smut wrote: »

This is fascinating reading. I have had psoriasis for the last 5 years (i'm 28 now). It's a fairly large lesion on my right shin, and a smaller one near the knee.
Is the diet really tough to stick to? I ask as I am usually about at nighttime, when you might not have a choice in what you eat!
And the aple cider vinegar sounds intrigueing. It's just applied neat, before bed?

Diet in the book is tough enough alright Papa, I haven't been able to stick to it for more than 2 weeks. I see your a mod in the smoking forum?. Well that is the first thing that you have to give up, then your not allowed ANY alcohol, No coffee, carbonated drinks and very little milk also, No spuds, no fatty or red meats, peppers, tomatoes or any nightshades. No white bread or starchy foods and even with the bread you can eat your own allowed about 1 slice a day. Citrus fruits can only be eaten on their own, that is you have to allow 2 hours either side of eating say an orange before you eat anything else. To boot your not really allow dairy either.

So basically you get to drink Saffron tea, about $80 for 6 ounces. Loads of water, fish, fresh vegetables and fresh fruits period. Bit of a bitch eh?, apparently it works though.

Apple Cider Vinegar is class, like I said don't know how it will work on the rest of the body as I only apply it to my scalp. However the more I read about it the better it sounds. Basically Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine hailed Apple Cider Vinegar as the cure for a ridiculous amount of ailments from digestive systems problems to the common cold.I have started drinking it now too and in about a week of drinking it you will get a new leash of life, wake up fresh as a button in the mornings and sleep like a log at night.

I'm actually half thinking of getting all the blood extracted from my veins and replacing it with this stuff its that good. Do some research on it and then give it a try Papa.

Like I was saying to Johnny, whats to lose?.

okgirl

Hi there, just reading about ACV, sounds great. How long do you have to apply it before you notice any results? I have been applying it for about 6 days now and while I have noticed a slight improvement in one area I have another area which is quiet raw and is not improving. So much so I have to apply cream this morning which is what I am trying to avoid. I am also drinking abot 4 tbsp per day.

Feelgood

okgirl wrote: »

Hi there, just reading about ACV, sounds great. How long do you have to apply it before you notice any results? I have been applying it for about 6 days now and while I have noticed a slight improvement in one area I have another area which is quiet raw and is not improving. So much so I have to apply cream this morning which is what I am trying to avoid. I am also drinking abot 4 tbsp per day.

Hi okgirl,

It was around a week when I started seeing good results, I had no heavy scaling anymore. After about two weeks my lesions were a minute fraction of the size that they were (think the size of the top of your baby finger) , again they aren't completely gone though.

If your seeing any improvement, it obviously means that its working to some extent so keep at it and see what happens. Might just take a few weeks to notice a real difference.

Also spotted in a forum the other night where a girl was using apple cider vinegar and then 2-3 times a week washing her hair with Tea Tree oil shampoo. Then on the end of that forum a lot of people where saying that they mixed a few drops of tea tree oil with the apple cider vinegar and then applied it neat and got really good results. Might be worth a try also?. That would probably take the rawness out of it.

I managed to get my hands on a pdf book on apple cider vinegar and it really is an interesting read, I unfortunately can't attach it to this forum as its too big, about 4mb. Mod's any way around this?.


In the mean time have a read of these..

http://www.psoriasis.org/treatment/psoriasis/alternative/topicals.php

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/psoriasis.html

http://www.skinhelp.co.uk/NaturalRemediesAndProductsForPsoriasis.html

Keep posting your results anyway Okgirl and see how you get on.

DonFred

Thanks for the heads up about the Apple Cider Vinegar Feelgood, bought some today in SuperQuinn so will try some tonight and rest of week. Was going to buy that Abbey Oil solution but will try this first. I too spent thousands of euro trying vary products and visiting doctors and none really worked on my scalp. Cheers again

Feelgood

DonFred wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up about the Apple Cider Vinegar Feelgood, bought some today in SuperQuinn so will try some tonight and rest of week. Was going to buy that Abbey Oil solution but will try this first. I too spent thousands of euro trying vary products and visiting doctors and none really worked on my scalp. Cheers again

No problem at all DonFred, hope it works for you.

Abbey Oil solution wasn't great to be honest and miles too dear for what it was. I think it was just some sort of argan/peanut oil mixed with essential oils or something. If you scalp was any way bad at all, you would go through a bottle a week/fortnight at 50 quid to no great effect.

Only thing I have noticed now after about 4 weeks is that ACV leaves your scalp very dry, so might be a good idea to get some moisture going. Vaseline was mentioned on the psoriasis.org site. Great site if you haven't seen it yet. Well worth a visit. Think there is a membership fee though you can browse through the forums for free where a lot of people talk about different treatments. You will find a lot in there about ACV.

Keep us posted anyway over the next week. Am hoping people come back with positive results...