i hate bruce springsteen

dantes74

there's something about this guy that seems to trancend all boundries no matter where you go there he is. at the moment he seems to be the darling of irish radio. ann marie kelly plays him nearly every morning, dempsey plays so does darcy, he's on spin all the time and live95, quite simply there's no escaping him.
i can's stand him the guy bores me to death. his live album from the point is like a sharon shannon album.... it's total crap. i don't know anyone that likes him so how does he get so much radio play. he's only recorded 2 good sonds in a 30 year career

SligoBrewer

dantes74 wrote: »

there's something about this guy that seems to trancend all boundries no matter where you go there he is. at the moment he seems to be the darling of irish radio. ann marie kelly plays him nearly every morning, dempsey plays so does darcy, he's on spin all the time and live95, quite simply there's no escaping him.
i can's stand him the guy bores me to death. his live album from the point is like a sharon shannon album.... it's total crap. i don't know anyone that likes him so how does he get so much radio play. he's only recorded 2 good sonds in a 30 year career

eh...

his latest live album was an oddity, like dylan's basement tapes.

my advice, start with the greatest hits and them go through the collection in chronological order.

you'll soon see that he has more than 2 songs

Creamy Goodness

the problem here is you're listening to the radio.

axer

dantes74 wrote: »

there's something about this guy that seems to trancend all boundries no matter where you go there he is. at the moment he seems to be the darling of irish radio. ann marie kelly plays him nearly every morning, dempsey plays so does darcy, he's on spin all the time and live95, quite simply there's no escaping him.
i can's stand him the guy bores me to death. his live album from the point is like a sharon shannon album.... it's total crap. i don't know anyone that likes him so how does he get so much radio play. he's only recorded 2 good sonds in a 30 year career

He is one of the best song writers and performers out there. Have you ever been to one of his concerts? How many and which albums have you actually listened to? His new album isn't great tbh but he has a lot more than 2 good songs.

Driver 8

Thank you for a good laugh on a Sunday afternoon op.

Bruce Springsteen is by far one of the most respected songwriters of all time, I'd love to know which two good songs you think he's written, because I've lost count myself. The Live in Dublin album was an artistic experiment, a change in style, and while you don't know anyone who likes him, believe me, the 32,000 people who saw those shows in May and November last year seemed to rather enjoy themselves-sorry you missed out.

I'm not even sure if you've heard a Springsteen album in full, but the idea that he's "boring" would be quickly dispelled if you'd attended one of his concerts. So I'd advise you to either listen to his back catalogue in depth, or attend a concert, before slagging off one of the few legends left in music.

He's the Boss. Simple as

cormie

It's fair enough if you hate him. That's your own opinion. But I'd question your taste to be honest, both Springsteen and Sharon Shannon are actually really good. Who do you like and listen to yourself?

Think Cremo summed it up, the problem is you're listening to the Radio. The radio ruins everything.

dantes74

have heard several of his albums so i can't be denied of giving him a fair chance. actually even bought the essential bruce springsteen and was very dissappointed not only because i didn't like it but also i didn't have what i would consider to be his best song (i'm on fire) on it.
his live album is a big pile of stinking manure and radio nowhere sits proudly on top of it

cormie

Have you listened to "The Ghost of Tom Joad" (album)?

axer

I would consider "The Rising" to be one of Springsteen's best pieces of work. You should definitely listen to that - also check out "Darkness on the edge of town" another classic. "Born in the USA" which actually has the track "I'm on fire" would be one of my least favourite albums.

OP: Other than the live album, the essential and the radio nowhere single - what albums have you listened to?

PeakOutput

not a huge fan in general but the sieger sessions is a great album

kinaldo

Hmmm... he's overrated imo. Born to Run lp was fantastic, Born in the USA lp is horrible, apart from the infectious Dancing in the Dark.

The River lp is ok but too long, and Nebraska... well I never listen to it.

My main gripe is the guy seriously overdoes it with the 'look at me I'm from a working class American background' sh1te.

Cremated

dantes74 wrote: »

there's something about this guy that seems to trancend all boundries no matter where you go there he is. at the moment he seems to be the darling of irish radio. ann marie kelly plays him nearly every morning, dempsey plays so does darcy, he's on spin all the time and live95, quite simply there's no escaping him.
i can's stand him the guy bores me to death. his live album from the point is like a sharon shannon album.... it's total crap. i don't know anyone that likes him so how does he get so much radio play. he's only recorded 2 good sonds in a 30 year career

You just come on to make a thread about you're hatred for Bruce Springsteen?,

Go to one of his shows, and see the energy he puts into each show,

his love for the shows, his love for the music, he has been pretty darn consistent throughout his career,

and always getting better,

his new album possibly his best album yet,

and to say what you did about Live 1975-85 shows how little you must know,

they are some of the best versions he has ever done of those songs,

and he is known as one of the best singer/songwriter's out there,

and has always given his fans his best, and tried to be fair to them,

with good long energetic shows with his friends The E Street Band,

unlike the Justin's and Britney's of this world, with their miming and short ass shows,

there isn't much like Bruce around these days,

and i think the reason you made this thread is out of jealousy,

and to say he is played on the Radio a lot is a load of toss,

i listen to the radio a lot in the car during work, and i have once heard him being played,

and that was on Country - FM and the song was I'm On Fire...

lordgoat

dantes74 wrote: »

there's something about this guy that seems to trancend all boundries no matter where you go there he is. at the moment he seems to be the darling of irish radio. ann marie kelly plays him nearly every morning, dempsey plays so does darcy, he's on spin all the time and live95, quite simply there's no escaping him.
i can's stand him the guy bores me to death. his live album from the point is like a sharon shannon album.... it's total crap. i don't know anyone that likes him so how does he get so much radio play. he's only recorded 2 good sonds in a 30 year career

not a huge bruce fan but he has some amazing records. I have no problem with your 'hate' for him either but you do listen to some awful ****e dj's/ radio stations.

Owen

I can't believe there are so many people on here who actually like Bruce Springsteen. I can't stand him. Born in the USA is just noise from start to finish, with BS screaming, and barely able to hit the notes. Most of his songs are drivel, the only exception being 'I'm on fire', and even that's not great.

grumpytrousers

So you've not heard Thunder Road then, have you?

Owen

Yes I have, but does it matter? He's not a great musician, he must be average, or people wouldn't listen to him, but great he's certainly not.

grumpytrousers

Well it does, insofar as you *appeared* to be typifying Springsteen as the kind of musician for whom Born in the USA was a template, when of course he's anything but. Thunder Road is of course, the direct opposite insofar as (without reverting to one-man-and-his-guitar style balladeer) it's the sound of a man and a band doing emotive rock AND managing to hit the notes.

Hey - you say potayto and i say potato; I don't see Bruce as being the be-all and end-all of modern rock music or even of older rock music. I guess, in a way, i (foolishly) rose to the bait of somebody actively stating 'hate' of the chaps music. The reason for the widespread play of his material on mainstream media is quite simple. He's back with the E Street Band with whom most of the more successful, mainstream stuff was recorded. I'm not dissing the Tom Joad/Seeger stuff but most of the stuff from his (ho ho ) Glory Days came when Bittan, Clemons, Van Zandt et al were flinging peanuts at each other around the tour bus.

Fact is that music relases by the more 'established' artists are now events, purely cos the cruddy state of decent pop music...thus when there's *any* kind of antidote available to the latest Britney (or whatever) release, the media inevitably rely on something more established...

BaZmO*

I blame the Boggers.

American Hicks love Bruce and and Boggers love anything that Hicks love so therefore he's always on the Radio over here.

Although having said that, I do like some of his stuff.

Driver 8

Hicks love Bruce? Yes, I remember them being overjoyed when he headlined the pro-John Kerry Vote for Change tour in 2004.

I wish people would investigate before slapping their outdated stereotypes down. I'm sure Bruce is crying into his cereal before he plays another sold out gig tonight, knowing that only "boggers" and "hicks" like him. :rolleyes:

BaZmO*

I meant Bill Hicks!

Anyway, I still stand by my point. Boggers love de Boss!

coolhandc

Bruce Springsteen is fantastic,he wouldnt still be as popular if that wasnt true.your all entitled to your opinions,and everyones musical tastes are different,but the boss is one of the best entertainers out there and he certainly has alot more than "two songs".
Dancing in the dark
Born in the USA
Glory Days
Thunder Road
The River
Im on Fire
Bobby Jean
Racing in the street

the list goes on, he is still making music 30 years later because people love it.

DerekD Goldfish

Cant stand the guy certainly up there with my most disliked artists of all time his songs range form chezzy crap to boring MOR muck.
I dont understand his appeal at all.

Dancing in the dark
Born in the USA
Glory Days
Thunder Road
The River
Im on Fire
Bobby Jean
Racing in the street

All terrible songs
Atlantic City is the only thing approaching a decent song he has.

Bren_M.Records

No real opinion on the guy one way or the other to be honest.
Not a fan of his music but sure I wouldnt hold that against him.
What would piss me off though is hearing that hes getting lots of 7to7 (7am to 7pm) mainstream airplay when there are lots of good Irish bands out there bursting their bollox who arent getting a look in on the 7to7's.

Owen

coolhandc wrote: »

the boss

PMSL, most. retarded. name. ever. It doesn't matter what you call him, a turd is still a turd.

coolhandc

ned78 wrote: »

PMSL, most. retarded. name. ever. It doesn't matter what you call him, a turd is still a turd.

Your entitled to your opinion ned,but i couldnt care less what you have to say.neither does the other couple of hundred thousand bruce springsteen fans around the world...what music would you happen to be interested in yourself just out of interest?

SligoBrewer

I have a youtube video that will convert yis all!:p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN7G6SdINS0

I'd give anything to meet the man

Owen

coolhandc wrote: »

Your entitled to your opinion ned,but i couldnt care less what you have to say.neither does the other couple of hundred thousand bruce springsteen fans around the world...what music would you happen to be interested in yourself just out of interest?

Jazz, Metal, House, Classical, Rock, Rap, Swing, Rock n Roll, anything except the freak show that is Irish Country and Western, and Bruce Springsteen. You see, I'm into Music that has structure, form, melody and counterpoint, and the fact that I'm a musician probably turns me off Springsteen more than anything else - from a musical composition point of view, he's the aural form of diarrohea.

SligoBrewer

ned78 wrote: »

Jazz, Metal, House, Classical, Rock, Rap, Swing, Rock n Roll, anything except the freak show that is Irish Country and Western, and Bruce Springsteen. You see, I'm into Music that has structure, form, melody and counterpoint, and the fact that I'm a musician probably turns me off Springsteen more than anything else - from a musical composition point of view, he's the aural form of diarrohea.

right..

:rolleyes:

no structure..

coolhandc

well ned,until your musical outfit has been inducted into the Rock and Roll music hall of fame alongside the likes of Led Zepp,The Rolling Stones,The Beatles and Elvis Presley, you have some ground to make up before you can go off blasting one of the inductees.
or when you can consistently release top quality albums for over 30 years,that DJs still play on the radio.
you can come back to me then and tell me what you think ned.
thanks.
and good luck.

DerekD Goldfish

coolhandc wrote: »

well ned,until your musical outfit has been inducted into the Rock and Roll music hall of fame alongside the likes of Led Zepp,The Rolling Stones,The Beatles and Elvis Presley, you have some ground to make up before you can go off blasting one of the inductees.
or when you can consistently release top quality albums for over 30 years,that DJs still play on the radio.
you can come back to me then and tell me what you think ned.
thanks.
and good luck.

I hate when people use this kind of idiotic logic.
If you havent sold x million records your opinion is invalid its bollox.
Its like when people say you cant slag of a footballer because you didnt play
just because someone has sold millions of albums doesnt mean they are any good just like someone who has won a CL medal can be useless as well.
Springsteen is to music what Djimi Traore is to football.
Boney M sold 50 billion records doesnt mean they arnt and the rock and roll hall of fame means nothing either.
Never every try to win an argument by saying well this movie/book/film/album sold millions of copies/got lots of radio play so it must be good its pathetic.

JC 2K3

I haven't heard much else by Bruce Springsteen, but Born in the USA is one of the worst songs I have ever heard.

Driver 8

Jazz, Metal, House, Classical, Rock, Rap, Swing, Rock n Roll, anything except the freak show that is Irish Country and Western, and Bruce Springsteen. You see, I'm into Music that has structure, form, melody and counterpoint, and the fact that I'm a musician probably turns me off Springsteen more than anything else - from a musical composition point of view, he's the aural form of diarrohea.

Oh learned musician! We are but simple people! Judge us not for our simple pleasures, for we not know not the error of our ways! Please, come teach us about well structured music, for surely it must be better than this "Springsteen" us mere mortals have been listening to! :rolleyes:

I'm sorry about the sarcasm dripping from that, even if you're not about the snobbery dripping from yours.

Royale with Cheese

Bruce Springsteen gets a big meh from me

dantes74

Fact is that music relases by the more 'established' artists are now events, purely cos the cruddy state of decent pop music...thus when there's *any* kind of antidote available to the latest Britney (or whatever) release, the media inevitably rely on something more established...[/QUOTE]

you seem to be of the opinion that if someone has a dislike of bruce that their cd collection is jam packed with brittney, justin and every crap pop that pollutes the airways. how wrong
and just because i say that i hate bruce is not to say that i give him no credit as a serious recording artist. credit must be given to him for his longevity in a dog eat dog music industry and for constanly changing his style and not ploughing out the same stuff over and over
but that doesn't mean i have to like him

Driver 8

But that wasn't what the tone of your original post suggested.

Put it this way-I'm not a big fan of Paul Weller, I respect the fact that he's survived so long and is important to many people. I dislike him, but I don't hate him.

dantes74

tone is still the same. still have to change the channel on the radio every time he comes on. would rather listen to every thing the thrills ever recorded (i think everyone can relate to how painful that would be) than have to listen to the rising or the seiger sessions

Jack Sheehan

ned78 wrote: »

Jazz, Metal, House, Classical, Rock, Rap, Swing, Rock n Roll, anything except the freak show that is Irish Country and Western, and Bruce Springsteen. You see, I'm into Music that has structure, form, melody and counterpoint, and the fact that I'm a musician probably turns me off Springsteen more than anything else - from a musical composition point of view, he's the aural form of diarrohea.

Can we get one thing straight, Bruce is (predominantly) not country and western (A label I despise) He is plain old Rock and in my opinion is the greatest musician of all time. From Darkness on the Edge of Town, to Nebraska to the Rising and his new album Magic In my opinion, hes pure gold all the way through.

As for the argument that his songs dont have structure....er what? Are you talking about Verse chorus Verse or something else entirely? I honestly don't know what to make of this argument. Just because you are a musician does not mean you know all there is to know about music or 'musical composition'. ( I realize this has already been said)

Aside from anything you don't sell millions of records and sell out stadiums.

Driver 8

I'm struggling to understand your feelings on him. You say that you respect him for his longevity and changes in musical style, but then say you'd rather listen to The Thrills.

Now, the insinuation is that The Thrills are rather awful, and infamous for plowing the same old stuff time after time. Your description above of Bruce that I just referred to indicates a sort of grudging respect, a "i don't like him, but i respect him" sort of thing. Like I say, I have many bands and artists I don't like, and would indeed change the radio, but i don't hate them.

Shryke

He can hate whoever he damn well likes even if he does respect them. Jesus. There's this thing called being human. It's pretty messy, cyborgs and AI may have difficulty with the concept.

Driver 8

You're right, but on the plus side, I have a pentium processor for a brain....

Shryke

What RAM?

Driver 8

I actually have an electronica album coming out next month called "Born to Ram". Doubtless it won't be considered cool, but I hope to forge a 30 year career out of it

grumpytrousers

dantes74 wrote: »

Fact is that music relases by the more 'established' artists are now events, purely cos the cruddy state of decent pop music...thus when there's *any* kind of antidote available to the latest Britney (or whatever) release, the media inevitably rely on something more established...

FURTHER QUOTE...you seem to be of the opinion that if someone has a dislike of bruce that their cd collection is jam packed with brittney, justin and every crap pop that pollutes the airways. how wrong
and just because i say that i hate bruce is not to say that i give him no credit as a serious recording artist. credit must be given to him for his longevity in a dog eat dog music industry and for constanly changing his style and not ploughing out the same stuff over and over
but that doesn't mean i have to like him

I think that's my original quote you're referring to there; i certainly didn't mean to insinuate that disliking bruce is axiomatic with loving sugar-coated pop music, because it isn't. Actually I like Bruce and honest-to-god decent (not cruddy!) Pop music if it's done right as well. Go figure!

The point i was rather clumsily trying to make was that the OP had questioned why in the hell Bruce Springsteen is getting so much airplay when you consider he's a has been. (i'm paraphrasing - not my own opinion)

I was merely trying to say that due to his past successes and so on and the fact that the music would be a little more raw and under-produced meant that there's a natural inclination of media outlets to get excited about his stuff.

Amazotheamazing

Horses for courses really, I don't know how anyone could fail to love even minor Springsteen songs like Night or She's the One, but then again, I strongly suspect that Radiohead's last few albums have been elaborate jokes on guillable students. for me, give me straight up, feel good rock but such simple tastes clearly aren't for everyone.

dantes74

do agree with you on the radiohead thing but we must remember that their first 3 albums are classics

Driver 8

Pablo Honey's far from a classic...

JC 2K3

Kid A is Radiohead's best album.

Stupid guitar rock elitists.

zeppe

Yeah, I never really liked Pablo Honey that much. OK Computer and Kid A are Radioheads best albums IMO.

As for Springsteen, I'm not really into him either. Lyrics great and raw emotion yeah, but pretty humdrum songs and boring chord progressions. I hate the E-Street band too, that s***e cheesy sax playing, grrrrr..

Cormac

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axer

ned78 wrote: »

I can't believe there are so many people on here who actually like Bruce Springsteen. I can't stand him. Born in the USA is just noise from start to finish, with BS screaming, and barely able to hit the notes. Most of his songs are drivel, the only exception being 'I'm on fire', and even that's not great.

lol, i'd say you are a great musician. :rolleyes:

Born in the USA is an amazing song that unfortunately a lot of people misinterpret as a patriotic song. It is an extremely ironic song that sums up the USA. The way the song is sung and the music that is used is what makes the song ironic.

Here you have a guy that came back from Vietnam where he is just handed and asked a gun "to go and kill the yellow man". Then he comes back after "serving" his country and goes looking for a job and is told by employers that "son, if it was up to me". He can't get a job after fighting for his country and when he asks the Veterans Association he is told "son don't you understand". In the mean time between each of these verses he is singing/shouting "born in the USA, I was born in the USA" that kind of starts of like a patriot shout but ends more like a cry of disbelief.

Born in the USA is a great song - the album is by no means Bruce's best in my opinion though.

There is a great version of Born in the USA on the Live in NY City DVD.

ned78 wrote: »

You see, I'm into Music that has structure, form, melody and counterpoint, and the fact that I'm a musician probably turns me off Springsteen more than anything else - from a musical composition point of view, he's the aural form of diarrohea.

lol, and you call yourself a musician. LOL :D:D:D:rolleyes::D:D:D:rolleyes:

I'd say you are a musical genius alright! LOL :D:D:rolleyes:

JC 2K3

axer wrote: »

Here you have a guy that came back from Vietnam where he is just handed and asked a gun "to go and kill the yellow man". Then he comes back after "serving" his country and goes looking for a job and is told by employers that "son, if it was up to me". He can't get a job after fighting for his country and when he asks the Veterans Association he is told "son don't you understand". In the mean time between each of these verses he is singing/shouting "born in the USA, I was born in the USA" that kind of starts of like a patriot shout but ends more like a cry of disbelief.

Born in the USA is a great song - the album is by no means Bruce's best in my opinion though.

I don't care about the lyrics, that's not what I listen to music for. All I hear when I listen to that song is a crappy riff, an annoying, repetitive drum beat and some guy who can't sing shouting "Born in the USA!".

Driver 8

"Can't" sing?

Same way that Bob Dylan, John Lennon etc "can't" sing? :rolleyes:

For the record, listen to any stripped down Springsteen song, for example the version of Highway Patrolman from Live in Dublin, or Devil's Arcade from Magic, and tell me he can't sing.