Movie streaming site shut down...

Heisenberg.

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dobsdave

The Scientist wrote: »

Yeah, the thought is horrifying to say the least. :rolleyes:

Yes shudder the thought, especially those of us working away from home in non-english speaking countries.
Yes I would much rather go for a nice long walk in the freezing rain.:(

Cunny-Funt

You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
:mad::mad:

FruitLover

basquille wrote: »

How anyone could watch low quality streaming content in a 320 x 240 window for 45 minutes is beyond me?

It's better than watching it in a 0 x 0 window for 0 minutes (i.e. not watching it)

Dave!

FruitLover wrote: »

It's better than watching it in a 0 x 0 window for 0 minutes (i.e. not watching it)

Good thing you clarified or that woulda went right over my head

Sinfonia

Red Alert wrote: »

Theoretically sites like that are no more illegal than telling someone on a bus where they can get a rip of a DVD without actually providing it to them.

+1

It's the same principle as this websites promotion company discussion ban.


Authorities and companies are finding the internet very useful for throwing their weight around where they couldn't before, i.e. when we all had to make tapes for each other and loaned each other videos. They're still pissed off and are trying to make all that money back!

ian_m

If it was so popular they felt it should be shut down, why aren't they offering an alternative?

So what happens now?

Agamemnon

ian_m wrote: »

If it was so popular they felt it should be shut down, why aren't they offering an alternative?

So what happens now?

Their idea of an alternative is for you to watch the films and shows on tv or DVD. There are other alternatives but the film companies don't like them either...

Xcom2

19 October 2007

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11510.cfm

Spanish court decides linking to P2P downloads is legal

In Spain, a Madrid magistrate has declared the case against Sharemula, a website publishing download links through which users can acquire TV series, music, software, etc., dismissed.

In October 2006 15 individuals were arrested, among which were people responsible for Sharemula. Now a year later court came to a decision that the site or its administration have not committed any violations against the copyright law by publishing links to peer-to-peer downloads.

The ruling was a considered a success by the Sharemula attorneys, who based the defense on three existing court rulings on similar cases. By not directly profiting from the downloads or storing illegal content, Sharemula did not break the law and was released from the accusations.

It is likely that the prosecution, including multinational companies such as Walt Disney, Paramount, Sony and Time Warner, will file an appeal shortly.

Source:
ELPAIS.com (Spanish)

humbert

I get the impression that quite often when these charges are contested the defendant wins, the problem is the enormous risk. If Joe Websiteowner loses he is facing insurmountable debt, the multinationals can afford to lose.

It goes a long way to explain the lawyers reaction in the case of the woman charged with sharing a few mp3s. They don't need to win them all, just scare the shit out of people so they won't contest the charges.

blah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5UYHXQPCPk

Thrill

Lol. Excellent clip.

Is it copyrighted?

Feral Mutant

More news
Well this is unsettling. Apparently one of the site's mods over here was arrested in connection with the site.

Well I may aswell post here now. I was an SMod on tv-l, ive been in a police station for the last 5 hours been questioned about my involvement in the site. Apparently they can charge me for involvement in organized crime!!! WTF!!!! The scary thing is that im not even in the UK, im in Ireland, which is governed by FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft) the police operation was massive scale, I was on tv-l just as it went offline, no warning whatsoever. AFAIK Sin (site owner) is still been held. All I know for sure is that the sites gone (for now anyway)… and that we (mods) could, in theory (if it goes this far) be sued £100,000,000, which FACT are saying is what the industry lost as a direct result of the site. Needless to say, im a little concerned atm

Nick_oliveri

I think a majority of p2p users should start doing the euromillions.

sued £100,000,000, which FACT are saying is what the industry lost as a direct result of the site

Statistics from a reputable and honest source....of course

Edit: Careful now blah, you are linking to copywritten material. Organized crime so it is.

robinph

Seems that they have now released the guy and are still trying to figure out which unrelated law they might be able to charge him with breaking.

The Register

Feel free to delete the link though if that also counts as linking to copyrighted material though.

Thrill wrote: »

Lol. Excellent clip.

Is it copyrighted?

That clip was from The IT Crowd.

Nick_oliveri

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/10/p2p_hacker?currentPage=all
Lots of crap coming out lately.

humbert

I hope they have to pay reparations if they can't convict him of anything. You'd think it would be necessary to prove he was doing something illegal before taking the website down, obviously not.

The_B_Man

does this mean Google is gonna get sued next? After all, google for an episode of any tv show and your pretty sure to find it in google. therefore, google is providing links to copyrighted material!!

oh wait, google is infallable and incapable of doing wrong!! :rolleyes:

ScumLord

I suppose technically they have a right to go after him, if it was child porn he was linking to no one would have a problem with him being arrested.

It is stupid though I would rarely ever buy a series or even a movie. Once I've seen something I have little or no interest in seeing it again. I've only ever bought Family guy box sets because there not on any channel I have. Once I've watched it I usually give it away to a friend.

This is really Napster all over again, this stuff should be available anyway. I was thinking the other day I'd almost be willing to pay for a British TV licence if it meant I could get into the BBC website and watch all there shows online.

I hope he gets off I don't think he did anything that wrong.

Blowfish

onechewy wrote: »

Question though, I overheard two dudes braggin that torrents are basically untraceable.. is that true? Aplogies if this gets locked, but I'm just honestly wondering, I don't use them myself. I still love the whole buzz of buyin me some choons in the shop!

The BitTorrent protocol has absolutely no methods in place to provide anonymity. Any of the seeders/leechers can obtain the IP's of the other seeders/leechers without difficulty. In fact some clients keep a log of every single IP that connects to a file.

There is software which people use to block tracking from known government and anti-p2p corporations IP's. It would be naive to think however that the governments/AP2P companies aren't aware of this, and that they wouldn't just an IP that isn't registered with them to track the files.

Truth is, you are never really anonymous on the internet.

User45701

I have never understood steaming in my life, the whole concept of it existing boggles my mind, maybe for music or something but to steam a show/movie or even a trailer or anything is just daft.

Ive always downloaded all game and movie trailers, then for some reason steaming started to become popular a good good few years back and to my supirse it has stuck around, it does not make sence, what if you wanted to watch said trailer again? to show a freind new game/movie or whatever you have to go to firefox, see did you save it, then click on it then it loads up ect, if you download all your game&movie traielrs you can watch any time you want even in times of internet failure or if a friend wanted a lend of your HD ect.

anyway i dont even know what site this is all in reference to, the only thing that has ever bothered me was when viacom had a go at death note translators - ****ing viacom kunts

ScumLord

User45701 wrote: »

if you download all your game&movie traielrs you can watch any time you want even in times of internet failure or if a friend wanted a lend of your HD ect.

But then you won't have to go back to their site to watch it.

BlackWizard

Wish I could just pay a fixed amount a month, to view what I want when I want. Then I wouldn't be tempted to do something illegal like download a Strictly Come Dancing torrent.

Don't get me started on Top Gear. It's actually impossible for any human being to remember that Top Gear is on Sunday at 8pm. Even if one does remember, it's too late. Because you are too far away from the remote to change the channel. Or worse, stuck ironing or making Mondays lunch and only remember to turn it on when it's already half way through.

BlackWizard

User45701 wrote: »

I have never understood steaming in my life, the whole concept of it existing boggles my mind, maybe for music or something but to steam a show/movie or even a trailer or anything is just daft.

I proposed a 4th year project this year which you might of liked.

It was an Application which sits on a web server. It contains all of the households media. Video, pictures and music. Similar to Server 2008 in some respects. But on the video side of things, it allows someone in the household to stream a video from the server and watch it, through a web interface. This is streaming is over a wireless network so there is usually no waiting on it to buffer. But it keeps the streamed video on the clients machine. Which means you can access your played videos while off line.

It was rejected by DCU

Edit: Actually, if anyone knows of a project like this or open source application that can do this, please let me know.

Wossack

BlackWizard wrote: »

Don't get me started on Top Gear. It's actually impossible for any human being to remember that Top Gear is on Sunday at 8pm.

I thought it was just me!

Hellm0

Blowfish wrote: »

The BitTorrent protocol has absolutely no methods in place to provide anonymity. Any of the seeders/leechers can obtain the IP's of the other seeders/leechers without difficulty. In fact some clients keep a log of every single IP that connects to a file.

There is software which people use to block tracking from known government and anti-p2p corporations IP's. It would be naive to think however that the governments/AP2P companies aren't aware of this, and that they wouldn't just an IP that isn't registered with them to track the files.

Truth is, you are never really anonymous on the internet.

This is true however the Legalities involved are slightly different(I would think, I'm no expert on the topic). Seeing as with the Gnutella derivatives you can "search by user" etc and find all the files on someones pc your left open to alot more fines if they decide to prosecute. In the case of bit torrent if your seeding your generally providing bit's and peices of a file rather than the entire entity(unless you are of course the only seeder) which complicates matters in terms of culpability(again, this is my opinion).

Basically so long as your not providing the file in a complete manner and merely downloading I dont think theres enough evidence for them to convict you of anything. Leeching in other words.

robinph

Hellm0 wrote: »

This is true however the Legalities involved are slightly different(I would think, I'm no expert on the topic). Seeing as with the Gnutella derivatives you can "search by user" etc and find all the files on someones pc your left open to alot more fines if they decide to prosecute. In the case of bit torrent if your seeding your generally providing bit's and peices of a file rather than the entire entity(unless you are of course the only seeder) which complicates matters in terms of culpability(again, this is my opinion).

Basically so long as your not providing the file in a complete manner and merely downloading I dont think theres enough evidence for them to convict you of anything. Leeching in other words.

Isn't part of the reason for them going after the bittorrent linking sites so far rather than people actually downloading or seeding files is that to get the IP's of the seeders/ leechers they would have to be providing that same file themselves as well and that would then provide a whole bunch of other get out clauses for whoever they were to go after if RIAA/ MPAA were seeding the files.