Party Poker Ipc Galway 2008 - Details

BIG-SLICK-POKER

Have not heard much on Boards on this but as i love this event i said i would pop up the Press release . Any Reason why the advertising has not started for this event ??

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GALWAY, Ireland -- (PRESS RELEASE) -- Pokerevents.ie is happy to announce preliminary details of the PartyPoker.com Irish Poker Championship 2008, to be held at the fabulous Radisson Hotel & Spa, Galway, Ireland, from Jan 3 to Jan 6, 2008. This is the first major tournament sponsorship in Ireland by PartyPoker.com and is Europe's first major tournament of 2008.

The €2,000 (9 percent withheld) buy-in is expected to attract 400 players from across Ireland, the UK, Europe and the United States and will be recorded for six hour-long broadcasts on RTÉ, Ireland's national broadcaster, and will be distributed internationally. Amongst the players who have indicated at this very early stage that they expect to attend include recent WSOP bracelet winner Ciaran O'Leary, Padraig Parkinson, Robert Williamson III and Bruno Fitoussi.

Pokerevents.ie, organisers of the three-year-old festival said, "This great value festival of poker attracts all levels of player from professional, to intermediate, to novice. It offers a deep-stacked, slow-structure game as well as an array of attractive side events. It is great to have a big sponsor on board."

"The venue is great, overlooking Galway Bay, and is sure to make for a fantastic weekend of quality poker and fun in a unique Irish atmosphere. Galway is easily accessible by road, rail, and air and has a unique culture of arts, music, literature, history and 'craic' and is perfectly suited as a location for Europe's most alluring boutique poker festival."

A PartyPoker.com spokesman said, "We're very pleased to sponsor this well established, highly regarded tournament and Ireland is a great country for poker with an amazing pedigree."

Over 500 qualifying satellites are being held in pubs and clubs across Ireland with dozens more starting from the sponsors in the near future online at Partypoker.com.

The schedule for the event is:

Thursday 3rd January 2008

* Super Satellite - €200 + €20 Friday 4th January 2008

* Main Event Day 1 - €2,000 (9 percent withheld) No Limit Hold'em Freezeout Saturday 5th January 2008

* Main Event Day 2 - €2,000

* Supporting Event - €800 + €80 No Limit Hold'em Freezeout Sunday 6th January 2008

* Main Event Day 3 - €2,000

* Supporting Event - €400 + €40 No Limit Hold'em Freezeout

DEmeant0r

Would love to try and satellite into this, but me 21st is on the 4th Jan, and I don't feel like being stuck in a room full of sweaty people all day on my 21st

Has there been any big name players playing in the past?

nicnicnic

DEmeant0r wrote: »

Has there been any big name players playing in the past?

yes I know for a fact that Flipper has played this event before

BIG-SLICK-POKER

nicnicnic wrote: »

yes I know for a fact that Flipper has played this event before

LMAO:D

BIG-SLICK-POKER

DEmeant0r wrote: »

Has there been any big name players playing in the past?

To be fair they have had a super field in the past , Hendon Mob Parkie , Praz Banzi Soren Koonsgaard , brindley , Andy Black ,.etc

mdwexford

Yeah the more big name pros with lots of experience the better, i play better against better players..........or something

LuckyLloyd

Will this get 400 runners? Anyone have any idea of what the structure will be like?

mdwexford

10k, hour clock, all levels like the last couple of years i assume.

I think the move to Galway along with all the much better structured games next year will affect numbers badly.

LuckyLloyd

mdwexford wrote: »

10k, hour clock, all levels like the last couple of years i assume.

Doesn't cut it for a 2k in this country at the mo I'm afraid.

cooker3

Let's make Big Slick mod for tournament page. He is pretty much running it as it is.

I also agree with MD, I doubt they will get close to 400 this time around.

5starpool

cooker3 wrote: »

Let's make Big Slick mod for tournament page. He is pretty much running it as it is.

Doesn't mean he is doing it correctly though. I know this wasn't posted by PE staff so I'm not sure how to treat it, but there ain't much in the way of tourney info in this thread.

carrigeen

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Doesn't cut it for a 2k in this country at the mo I'm afraid.

i suppose your right Lloyd bit like the way the EPT doesnt cut it

gigetheman

Neil Kelly For Major Job:d

BIG-SLICK-POKER

5starpool wrote: »

Doesn't mean he is doing it correctly though. I know this wasn't posted by PE staff so I'm not sure how to treat it, but there ain't much in the way of tourney info in this thread.

Really just lookin for info and relaying some of it to be Honest as there is little movement on this on Boards and its unusual as i remember last year the thread was flooded .

Im not really postin it For P.E im sure they will start a thread

BIG-SLICK-POKER

gigetheman wrote: »

Neil Kelly For Major Job:d

Lol

cooker3

5starpool wrote: »

Doesn't mean he is doing it correctly though. I know this wasn't posted by PE staff so I'm not sure how to treat it, but there ain't much in the way of tourney info in this thread.

It's not much different to when info on the irish open was first released, not all the information that is normally used when a tournament is advertised was mentioned but it was enough interest to post it, don't think this is any different.

RichieLawlor

carrigeen wrote: »

i suppose your right Lloyd bit like the way the EPT doesnt cut it

i know u meant this tongue in cheek pat but i totally agree with what u say here. Its ridiculous what has happened this year in ireland imo.

Any tournaments i played in america had small starting stacks and long clocks which IMO is ten times better structure that millions of chips because it lends itself to more play at the important stage of the tournament, ie the finish.

But i suppose the proof is in the results, look at all the bracelets and big tournament wins the irish have;)

LuckyLloyd

RichieLawlor wrote: »

i know u meant this tongue in cheek pat but i totally agree with what u say here. Its ridiculous what has happened this year in ireland imo.

Any tournaments i played in america had small starting stacks and long clocks which IMO is ten times better structure that millions of chips because it lends itself to more play at the important stage of the tournament, ie the finish.

But i suppose the proof is in the results, look at all the bracelets and big tournament wins the irish have;)

Meh, I strongly disagree. Tournament structures are being elongated in the States aswell over the past 15 months. Think about the structures employed by the Venetian and Binions during the festivals they ran in tandem with the world series in July. In November, Turningstone are running a deepstack series where the minimum sructure is 10k. 40 mins for a $240 game. The ME will be 15k, 1hr levels, every level - like the Bigslick event over here.

I dont know what tournaments you are speaking of in America anyhow. If you are somehow trying to argue that 3k and 40 mins (with probably no 75 / 150 level) will have better play at the end than 15k and a 1hr clock let me just say that, while you are entitled to your perception, I respectfully disagree.

And the Irish didn't have many ****ing bracelets before 2007. Or EPT wins. Remember that the first 15k stack for an Irish tournament was LESS than one year ago - the GJP festival in november 2006. It will take a lot of time to see how an increase in structures as standard helps Irish players abroad. I don't see how it can hurt. But Irish results abroad probably won't change until attitudes on tour change (less boozing, more focus maybe).

Pat's comment is sharp - but the EPT isn't an "Irish" event. EPT Dublin would still run if a single Irish player didn't enter. And the market has now changed significantly since the last two Christmas IPC's. The market is no longe barren, it's flooded. Maybe I'm the only player with such a mindset - but I can't play everything; so I will play the tournamants that offer the best structue; best playabillity; most fun.

Russh

I don't see anything wrong with Tournament organisers improving their structures and giving the players more value and game for their money, in fact I think it's fantastic...

There's still plenty of crapshoots out there if a player wants that type of game....

bops

IMO games are getting stupidly long - 10k starting stack with 1 hr clock is about as much as i can handle. playing 3 days of poker before making the money is silly

"yep i got great value, stayed in smelly hotel for 3 days, missed work, and bubbled, it was great i got to listen to my ipod for 28 hours of play, in which i actively played 50 hands...."

even some of the 200/300 games in dublin are becomming 2 day events - you think i'm going to stay in dublin for 2 days for a 200 game?? that's +EV my arse

there isn't anything you cant prove at a poker table in 36 hours that you can't prove in 12 - actually the major difference is that it is structured for NITs with bundles of patience and restraint - it takes away the necessity to actually play poker to survive - sit there for 3 hours, get AA, hammer the sh1t outta it, hope it doesn't get outdrawn, and move on to the next big hand in an hour or two. Then when you are lucky enough to reach the last 4 tables, win a couple of races that you will have to take - bringing you to a crapshooty FT if your lucky

maybe if i was a single fella it would make a difference, i can't just p1ss off for 3/4 days for these tourneys willynilly, i have to carefully select 3/4 of them for the entire year

blah blah rant rant i'd rather a turbo game!

Mellor

I agree with Lloyd, being mostly tourney player, I am looking forward to some of the events this year, being only out of college and not exactly loaded, value for money is high on my checklist.
If I pay >€1000 I would be looking for a great event. This is now being offered. If I had to pick between a 10k stack with 2h levels and a 20k stack with 1h levels. I would go for the 10k, as due to the fact that blinds don't double every level (when all are used), the games is deeper at later stages.

RichieLawlor

bops wrote: »

IMO games are getting stupidly long




the major difference is that it is structured for NITs with bundles of patience and restraint - it takes away the necessity to actually play poker to survive - sit there for 3 hours, get AA, hammer the sh1t outta it, hope it doesn't get outdrawn, and move on to the next big hand in an hour or two.

Bops this is the most sensible thing u have ever said;)

fabsoul

Russh wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong with Tournament organisers improving their structures and giving the players more value and game for their money, in fact I think it's fantastic...

There's still plenty of crapshoots out there if a player wants that type of game....

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Flushdraw

I'm with Richie and Bops on this on this one

bops

Flushdraw wrote: »

I'm with Richie and Bops on this on this one

something is seriously wrong today - your the 3rd person to agree with me

nicnicnic

i feel alot of love in this tread.

The_Chopper

I like deep stacked tournies - it gives better players plenty of time to accumilate chips and not have to gamble early as blinds are getting high.
Let the cream rise to the top i say

gigetheman

i cant beleive im saying this but im with bops and richie on this one,(there comes the carrots) :eek:

nicnicnic

well the first time I encountered over 10k in a decent buy in was last years GJP game. I thought at the time and still do that 15k and the 60 minute clock was a magic structure ( although I'd rather antes, a subjective preferance ). Bigslick followed this structure for there game the Waterford open and again a super structure was in place.

The macau then introduced a 75 minute clock with two added key levels for there 10k starting stack summer festival. This worked very well and the structure was every bit as good as the previous two mentioned events.

Now coming up we have the macau xmass 75 minute clock 15k stack. Next year JP and Bigslick have 20k stacks and 60 minute clocks while GJP have just announced the 50k starting stack game. While I'm against denouncing something without trying it I fear that the optimum structure may of been reached with last year games. I remember a conversation with Dathio at this years Waterford open where we were of the opinion that the event structure was borderline to slow and anything more would just be to much. While I hope to play the GJP JP and BS events next year I feel that line has been crossed

BigCityBanker

nicnicnic wrote: »

well the first time I encountered over 10k in a decent buy in was last years GJP game. I thought at the time and still do that 15k and the 60 minute clock was a magic structure ( although I'd rather antes, a subjective preferance ). Bigslick followed this structure for there game the Waterford open and again a super structure was in place.

The macau then introduced a 75 minute clock with two added key levels for there 10k starting stack summer festival. This worked very well and the structure was every bit as good as the previous two mentioned events.

Now coming up we have the macau xmass 75 minute clock 15k stack. Next year JP and Bigslick have 20k stacks and 60 minute clocks while GJP have just announced the 50k starting stack game. While I'm against denouncing something without trying it I fear that the optimum structure may of been reached with last year games. I remember a conversation with Dathio at this years Waterford open where we were of the opinion that the event structure was borderline to slow and anything more would just be to much. While I hope to play the GJP JP and BS events next year I feel that line has been crossed

well said.

nicnicnic

BigCityBanker wrote: »

well said.

ty

any chance of a sponsorship deal with ppp now your at the helm.

congrats and gl with the new position

LuckyLloyd

bops wrote: »

IMO games are getting stupidly long - 10k starting stack with 1 hr clock is about as much as i can handle. playing 3 days of poker before making the money is silly

"yep i got great value, stayed in smelly hotel for 3 days, missed work, and bubbled, it was great i got to listen to my ipod for 28 hours of play, in which i actively played 50 hands...."

there isn't anything you cant prove at a poker table in 36 hours that you can't prove in 12 - actually the major difference is that it is structured for NITs with bundles of patience and restraint - it takes away the necessity to actually play poker to survive - sit there for 3 hours, get AA, hammer the sh1t outta it, hope it doesn't get outdrawn, and move on to the next big hand in an hour or two. Then when you are lucky enough to reach the last 4 tables, win a couple of races that you will have to take - bringing you to a crapshooty FT if your lucky

Sigh. This is all rather silly. If you don't have patience, so what. I couldn't give a ****. Most good players do. Patience and discipline seems to be an important part of playing good poker.

But the bolded part is the really silly part. You may choose to NIT it up in this type of structure. But it is not a neccesity. The great thing about deep structures is that you have the room to play any game you like. You have the chips to put pressure on players playing too tight - room to take flops with a wider range early because of massive implied odds; room to float flops and turns and have chips behind to make plays on the river. Or, you can sit around and play a very tight range and lean on the structure. Like Mike said in his thread about the deepstack game - you can expect to see a wide variety of styles.

But talk about the fact that you just sit around and wait for the boots and win a few races on a crapshooty final table is utter nonesense IMO. I still dont understand the logic being espoused by Bops and Richie that more than 10k chips and 1hr levels produces a BETTER late structure than 15k+ and 1hr+ levels?????

How does that work?

And finally Bops, this talk of "having to play poker to survive" is rubbish. What that translates as is "having to go all - in pre - flop or on the flop more". lol donkaments. I don't have much experience of playing tournaments in the southeast. But maybe you guys are good at shoving in preflop and winning races. Fine. But a structure that takes you all out of your comfort zone and forces you to adapt your game a little doesn't make it a bad structure.

Sure, for fecks sake, I'm a tournament donkey who plays turns and rivers badly - and I'm arguing for a structure that makes me much, much easier to beat. The better players are more likely to win a tournament with a more extended structure on a more consistent basis. I am clueless as to why good players want to get away from that.

mdwexford

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I don't have much experience of playing tournaments in the southeast. But maybe you guys are good at shoving in preflop and winning races. Fine. But a structure that takes you all out of your comfort zone and forces you to adapt your game a little doesn't make it a bad structure.

I think your forgot to say except for me Lloyd

fwiw i agree

nicnicnic

I didnt see to many Dubs at the final table of this years Irish open and I mean final 9 not 6

RichieLawlor

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Sigh. This is all rather silly. If you don't have patience, so what. I couldn't give a ****. Most good players do. Patience and discipline seems to be an important part of playing good poker.

But the bolded part is the really silly part. You may choose to NIT it up in this type of structure. But it is not a neccesity. The great thing about deep structures is that you have the room to play any game you like. You have the chips to put pressure on players playing too tight - room to take flops with a wider range early because of massive implied odds; room to float flops and turns and have chips behind to make plays on the river. Or, you can sit around and play a very tight range and lean on the structure. Like Mike said in his thread about the deepstack game - you can expect to see a wide variety of styles.

But talk about the fact that you just sit around and wait for the boots and win a few races on a crapshooty final table is utter nonesense IMO. I still dont understand the logic being espoused by Bops and Richie that more than 10k chips and 1hr levels produces a BETTER late structure than 15k+ and 1hr+ levels?????

How does that work?

And finally Bops, this talk of "having to play poker to survive" is rubbish. What that translates as is "having to go all - in pre - flop or on the flop more". lol donkaments. I don't have much experience of playing tournaments in the southeast. But maybe you guys are good at shoving in preflop and winning races. Fine. But a structure that takes you all out of your comfort zone and forces you to adapt your game a little doesn't make it a bad structure.

Sure, for fecks sake, I'm a tournament donkey who plays turns and rivers badly - and I'm arguing for a structure that makes me much, much easier to beat. The better players are more likely to win a tournament with a more extended structure on a more consistent basis. I am clueless as to why good players want to get away from that.

Lloyd your talkin tripe, you see things one way and thats it ill rip this apart later when i get a few minutes

thechamp87

nicnicnic wrote: »

well the first time I encountered over 10k in a decent buy in was last years GJP game. I thought at the time and still do that 15k and the 60 minute clock was a magic structure ( although I'd rather antes, a subjective preferance ). Bigslick followed this structure for there game the Waterford open and again a super structure was in place.

The macau then introduced a 75 minute clock with two added key levels for there 10k starting stack summer festival. This worked very well and the structure was every bit as good as the previous two mentioned events.

Now coming up we have the macau xmass 75 minute clock 15k stack. Next year JP and Bigslick have 20k stacks and 60 minute clocks while GJP have just announced the 50k starting stack game. While I'm against denouncing something without trying it I fear that the optimum structure may of been reached with last year games. I remember a conversation with Dathio at this years Waterford open where we were of the opinion that the event structure was borderline to slow and anything more would just be to much. While I hope to play the GJP JP and BS events next year I feel that line has been crossed

strongly agree

LuckyLloyd

nicnicnic wrote: »

I didnt see to many Dubs at the final table of this years Irish open and I mean final 9 not 6

There wasn't any? I didn't say the Irish Open had a great structure did I? Even yourself complained that there could have been more play late on? How does that invalidate my argument?

LuckyLloyd

RichieLawlor wrote: »

Lloyd your talkin tripe, you see things one way and thats it ill rip this apart later when i get a few minutes

And you see things your way and that's it!!!! You can "rip it apart" later. And then I'll counter it, and then eventually we will have to agree to disagree!!

bops

lucky lloyd's proven super system on how to win a big tourney:

1) play like a donkey
2) get shortstacked obv
3) buy into side event
4) shove @ every given oportunity
5) win every race
6) suckout
7) lift trophy
8) can now afford a razor

did i miss anything??

get back in your sh*thole box you call your house and never ever insult us good folk from the sunny south east again


ty that is all

Duff Man Jr.

I aggree with Lloyd.

The_Chopper

I was agreeing with Llyod until his last long rant - I hope the structures aren't that long

nicnicnic

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

There wasn't any? I didn't say the Irish Open had a great structure did I? Even yourself complained that there could have been more play late on? How does that invalidate my argument?

I wasn't talking to you its just something I like to throw up now and again as It amuses me

LuckyLloyd

bops wrote: »

lucky lloyd's proven super system on how to win a big tourney:

1) play like a donkey
2) get shortstacked obv
3) buy into side event
4) shove @ every given oportunity
5) win every race
6) suckout
7) lift trophy
8) can now afford a razor

did i miss anything??

Yeah you missed something. I actually didn't suckout once in the ME AIPF from day two on!! I actually managed to get it in at least 70 / 30+ every time. And I won all :

A3 > Q3 AIPF
KK > QQ AIPF
AA > AK AIPF
AA > Q10 AI on a 1063r flop
A10 > Q10 AIPF (to knock a shortstack out)
QQ > 99 AIPF
AA > 88 AIPF
77 > A5 AIPF (to knock a shortstack out)
QQ > AQ AIPF

Now I will be the first to admit that was lucky. I never said I wasn't lucky in that event fwiw. And I didn't play like a donk on day one btw. I would have had a very workable stack if a good call with AQ after Andy Black had 3 bet overshoved on me preflop had held up against his A9. So ho hum, stfu, and call me lucky when you win one with more style and grace - which is definately quite possible to do.

And yeah, I won a lot of pots without showdown by 3 or 4 betting pre - flop without callers. Which is an important part of winning tournaments. Unusually, I didn't win any pure coinflips or have a huge suckout. But yeah, I ran real good in a different sort of way. And I have never claimed that I am a great player. Or that I outplayed everyone in that tournament. If someone can find somewhere where I said or wrote something along those lines please correct me.

EDIT: Btw, I didn't "win" in Drogheda. I chopped it with Liam and Brendan - and was arbitrarily declared the winner on the basis of having more chips when play ended.

The side event was a laugh. I sucked out a couple of times in that but it was largely irrelevant - and lasted 10 minutes.

bops wrote: »

get back in your sh*thole box you call your house and never ever insult us good folk from the sunny south east again

Wtf with the childish insult? I like my house.



But what exactly has my win in Drogheda or whether I'm any good got to do with a debate over tournament structures?

LuckyLloyd

nicnicnic wrote: »

I wasn't talking to you its just something I like to throw up now and again as It amuses me

Well there was no Waterford lads at either final table of the GJP festivals!!

MrPillowTalk

bops wrote: »

lucky lloyd's proven super system on how to win a big tourney:

1) play like a donkey
2) get shortstacked obv
3) buy into side event
4) shove @ every given oportunity
5) win every race
6) suckout
7) lift trophy
8) can now afford a razor

did i miss anything??

get back in your sh*thole box you call your house and never ever insult us good folk from the sunny south east again


ty that is all

This is well out of order.

nicnicnic

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well there was no Waterford lads at either final table of the GJP festivals!!

There was only one Waterford player between both events i missed the may one. there was millions of Dubs in the IO

JP Poker

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

And the market has now changed significantly since the last two Christmas IPC's. The market is no longe barren, it's flooded.

I think Lloyd has a point here. While i realy enjoyed the IPC'05 and i have to say i think it realy helped kick off the poker revolution in Ireland since than. Getting Ace's and King's craked early on left me shortstacked, Ace's again all in, cracked, good bye IPC.

Since than the market has indeed flooded, with great games on offer

Fitz 10k, 1hr, double levels as antes increase
Macau 15k, 75 Min
GJP 50k, 1hr
BS 20k, 1hr
PE 10k, 1hr
Myself 25k, 90min
Not sure what the SE's structure is but i'm sure it will be great.

As a tournie organiser i try (as does BS, GJP ect) to offer the best value, best structure ect for the players. Have we gone to far? Maybe.

Ultimately players will pick the games they feel most comfortable with.

If after all these games have been played players feel that PE was to short or indeed my game was to long i'm sure PE will listen to their customers and make changes to thier next event as i will.

Either way i'm looking forward to playing these next year.

MrPillowTalk

nicnicnic wrote: »

There was only one Waterford player between both events i missed the may one. there was millions of Dubs in the IO

You are both clearly mistaken, us Leitrim boys are obviously the most superior poker county due to our stunnin victory and our reign as all ireland champs.

nicnicnic

MrPillowTalk wrote: »

You are both clearly mistaken, us Leitrim boys are obviously the most superior poker county due to our stunnin victory and our reign as all ireland champs.

Cant argue there that Conor Smith is top class

The_Chopper

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

A3 > Q3 AIPF
KK > QQ AIPF
AA > AK AIPF
AA > Q10 AI on a 1063r flop
A10 > Q10 AIPF (to knock a shortstack out)
QQ > 99 AIPF
AA > 88 AIPF
77 > A5 AIPF (to knock a shortstack out)
QQ > AQ AIPF

No wonder you won - look at the sick run of cards you got and always getting someone with the 2nd best hand. I mean A3 vs Q3 what a sicko....

bops

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Wtf with the childish insult? I like my house.

But what exactly has my win in Drogheda or whether I'm any good got to do with a debate over tournament structures?

lol lloydy i was only takin the mickey! - fair play to you for takin it the way you did and wp in the tourney etc

MrPillowHead wrote:

This is well out of order.

I'd tell you to get back in your box, but we'd have a job stickin your big head in there - wouldn't we??

...how about get back in your ponsy barbie car instead - is it a soft-top??