[US] 2X04 - "The Kindness of Strangers" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

Mr E

The advantage of being on a business trip in Florida (apart from the weather!) is being able to see Heroes before everyone else

No Hiro or bad Oirish accents this week. A new Hero (I still don't know what her power is, even though you see her use it). We finally get to see the full photo of the old heroes (and everyone who is in it). Sylar is

back in the real world .... you'll never guess where.

And this episode has the first big revelation of the season.... who is Molly's big bad boogeyman? You'll find out! (and its an interesting twist....)

Another episode where alot happens, but not much happens. Hope they're building up to something good.

Mahatma coat

Very good

well now that was much better, what is the new chicks powers, is it a cross between Charlie and Peter or what?

good to see Gabriel up to his old tricks, and a nice twist with Parkman

also a nice explanation of why he's separated

gave this full marks, even the latinos were interestin-ish this week

the whole bennet household seems a bit formulaic, but maybe thats what the writers are going for, straining at normality when the household consists of Noah Claire and Mr Muggles

twasnice to be spared from the twee accents

Mossy Monk

OK

This was fantastic, a dream compared to last weeks mess.

The whole Clarie/West thing has me wondering what Mr Bennett is so protective about. He obviously knows something about west.

As for the new girl getting a twinkle in her eye while watching Rey Mysterio doing a 619 on the tv I thought, "oh no, this is going to be terrible". But it was quite good. Interesting to see where the story with her goes. What happened when Micah put his hand on her back? The camera stayed on it a bit long I thought.

The two twins in Mexico are watchable now that Sylar is with them. He is the best character on tv right now without a doubt. Looking forward to see what he has in store for them.
Parkman's father is the boogey man, that's a pretty big twist and at least now there is also closure on why he seperated from the wife.

No Oirish scenes, hurray .

I look forward to next week.

sme

OK

yeah parkmans father was omfg, totally unexpected.

i was thinking as i watched the ep as how sylar got to the road? he was in the arsehole of the rainforest the previous ep and couldn't teleport. seems implausible to walk out with his injuries.

monica shows great promise, i was thinking of neo in the first matrix when she was watching tv. but the whole micah hand/back thing seemed slightly odd.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

OK

It was a good episode, despite the fact it was missing Hiro, Ando and Takeso.
It was nice to have a break from Peter and the Bad Accent Gang.
And Parkman finally has a purpose for still being in the show.
Good stuff overall.

Mossy Monk

OK

CaptainNegative wrote: »

It was a good episode, despite the fact it was missing Hiro, Ando and Takeso.

That was a bonus not having them in the episode I thought. Hiro this season is a pain in the arse.

EKRIUQ

Not Great

Mossy Monk wrote: »

That was a bonus not having them in the episode I thought. Hiro this season is a pain in the arse.

Your right, Hiro this season is more like a character from a childrens programme trying to be matchmaker and <boring>I'm sure it will have a happy ending</boring>

Hobbes

Sheesh I know they would rewrite the Nissan car back into the storyline (it is the one Sylar is driving). Clares car as well.

randomchild

Much much better, apart from the claire stuff which was pretty textbook, everything was class particulary the boogeyman stuff. I wonder if his power is to reflect other's back at them (seeing how he can see Molly)? And the preview for the next episode looks brill as well... Oh and by the way is it me or does Parkman's dad look a bit chubby to be the man who is hunting the last generation? Mabey he has lost a lot of weight or something, or perhaps the boogeyman and the killer are not one and the same...

Faith

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"Golly, they looked so nice." Roffle!

I thought that was great. Sylar, looking hot and scruffy - love it! The stuff with Parkman's dad was a real "Oh my God!" moment. I can't wait to see where that goes.

I thought Monica's power is just being able to do something after seeing it once. Why did the camera spend so long on Micah hand on her back? Was he trying to manipulate her, like he does with machines?

Why did Sylar introduce himself as Gabriel Grey? Why would he want the twins' power? How did he get out of the jungle? When's he going to start using his powers and being seriously badass again?!

I hope Molly doesn't wake up, she annoys me. I wonder how Parkman found out it wasn't his kid? Again, what's up with Nathan's reflection?

So many questions!

evil_seed

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The whole Clarie/West thing has me wondering what Mr Bennett is so protective about. He obviously knows something about west.

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my guess is that he used to work for the company

tvnutz

Better than last week,but still a bit slow for me. Parkman's father being the boogeyman guy was an interesting twist. The claire/"west" (I will continue to use inverted commas because that is just not a first name!) story is boring and the guy really annoys me.

Sylar is the best character,wonder how he got from the jungle to Mexico all of a sudden? Unless he actually did take Candice's power and the jungle was him using the power but not being able to control it.

No bad Irish accents and no boring Hiro storyline. Both will probably be back next week though.

And I think Micah said something about wanting to fix Monica's dreams or something but he can only manipulate machines.

Arathorn

As interesting as the plague twins

It was just ok, it doesnt have the pace of season 1 though. West is definately dodgy, has to be where else could that storyline go. Sylar never used his illusion power? maybe he wasnt able to steal it. Boogey man is parkmans dad, big deal we didnt even know he had a dad until now.

An Citeog

OK

tvnutz wrote: »

And I think Micah said something about wanting to fix Monica's dreams or something but he can only manipulate machines.

It looks like she has the power to copy what she sees exactly (perhaps only on TV). She did it with the tomatoe and the kick.

Good episode all in all, especially Parkman's dad. Hiro is just annoying me at this stage, so I didn't mind him not being in the episode. I wanted to see Peter though, Oirish accents excluded. Just look in the fúcking box!

davmi

monica can basically just learn instantly as far as i can see, sees something done once and can reproduce it, dont no how its gonna be useful with the super powers of the others tho!

tvnutz

Oh,and I see people find the Claire plot boring at the moment,but aside from it being boring tell me I am not the only one that hates "West". I tend to hate a character on tv every year and this year he is front runner.

"I know you can heal, but I never want to see you hurt" *vomit*

AlmightyCushion

tvnutz wrote: »

Oh,and I see people find the Claire plot boring at the moment,but aside from it being boring tell me I am not the only one that hates "West". I tend to hate a character on tv every year and this year he is front runner.

"I know you can heal, but I never want to see you hurt" *vomit*

That line was so bad I was willing to break my laptop just so that I could punch him in the face.

ixoy

A big improvement on last week and Sylar appearing in the WonderTwinsOfDeath's storyline gives me hope that he'll be ripping their heads open soon enough.
It does seem to indicate everything was real last week and that the blood disappearing from his hands when he stumbled out was a production goof - not as bad as not bothering to research a country of four million people, but still sloppy.

Nathan cleaned up himself - good. He was of no interest slouching around so maybe he can really kickstart a plot that doesn't involve trying to get custody.

I still find West creepy and right here, right now, I'm going to make up my Utterly Crazy Theory: West is Parkman's dad via some power (maybe he can grow younger or possess people's bodies). It's why West ended up near Claire as he seeks to take out the next generation and why he's in the last picture as it's him killing everyone in the others, finally turning on the man who was the Company's fixer. You heard it here first people (and probably last).

Agamemnon

OK

tvnutz wrote: »

tell me I am not the only one that hates "West".

Don't worry, you're not alone brother. I hate him more than I've ever hated anything in my life. Every time his goofy face appears on screen, it makes me clench my fists and grind my teeth with fury. If I could reach into the screen and strangle him, I would, and I'd laugh and laugh and laugh while I did it.

Finally something interesting happens to the twins as they meet Sylar. I reckon Sylar will kill Alejandro but he won't be able to kill Maya for some reason and she'll need him to stop her power killing people.

Weird how Nathan saw himself with radiation burns again and said "Get away from me". Someone must be making him see it. I think Mammy Petrelli will be killed off in the next episode as well.

And Claire will be back cheerleading soon! \o/

thelordofcheese

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I curse and lament the lack of the Oirish bits this week, but it's nice to see a bit of development.

It's building up, just like heroes did last season, so i'm expecting it to get progressively more awesome as the weeks go on.

Also monica reminds me of of some Marvel character i can't quite remember the name of, but his thing was that he had a photgraphic muscle memory, meaning once he saw someone do something, he could then mimic it perfectly, which seems to be Monicas power down to a tee.

ixoy

It's a pity Monica can't watch Heroes...

User45701

OK

randomchild wrote: »

Muhc much better, apart from the claire stuff which was pretty textbook, evrything was class particulary the boogeyman stuff. I wonder if his power is to reflect other's back at them (seeing how he can see Molly)? And the preview for the next episode looks brill aswell... Oh and by the way is it me or does Parkman's dad look a bit chubby to be the man who is hunting the last generation? Mavey he has lost a lot of weight or something, or perhaps the boogeyman and the killer are not one and the same...

That would make sense, someone who can reflect any power back, we have no idea of Nakumara's power so we just know he was thrown off a roof, Ms Patrelli could have some form of mental power which would explain why the doctors reveal she attacked herself, self infflictted wounds because her power was reflected back at her, whatever it is,

I do think its possible that the killer is not parkmans dad and perhaps the big bad will be killed by the killer as a twist, they finally find the big bad but he is dead with one of those photos/with symbol on them on his body.

I still hope that syler kills the big bad though, An even more powerful syler

Bounty Hunter

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Easily the best of the first four eps of this season IMO. The story is starting to develop, the Twins story is no longer an isolated one and I like Mica's cousin Monica (619). It seems her power is like an iproved version of Charlies (i think that was her name, Hiro's girl in season 1) who coincidentally also worked in a restaurant.

agamemnon wrote: »

Don't worry, you're not alone brother. I hate him more than I've ever hated anything in my life. Every time his goofy face appears on screen, it makes me clench my fists and grind my teeth with fury. If I could reach into the screen and strangle him, I would, and I'd laugh and laugh and laugh while I did it.

Honestly i have no recolection of what west looks like. Although this is prob because when he is on screen so is claire and take a guess where I focus my attension.

seamus

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Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Easily the best of the first four eps of this season IMO. The story is starting to develop, the Twins story is no longer an isolated one and I like Mica's cousin Monica (619). It seems her power is like an iproved version of Charlies (i think that was her name, Hiro's girl in season 1) who coincidentally also worked in a restaurant.

I'd guess that it's a sort of intuitive aptitude like Sylar's - the ability to see how something works and replicate it.

Definitely picked up much more this week, much more like a Season 1 episode. I hope they cut off the Claire/West storyline soon though and just let Noah see West and sort it all out.

As for Micah - I'd say he was just trying to see if he could "tap into" her, but realised he couldn't.

Parkman's Dad being the big bad - definite, "Oh savage" moment. I'd go with everyone else's guess that he has some sort of ability to reflect/absorb anyone's power if they use it on him. We had kind of guessed that last season

randomchild

For anyone interested, here is the photo:

Rollo Tamasi

Nobody has mentioned what I thought was the most interesting thing to occur in this weeks episode....the cockroach/beetle thing appearing besides the dead body of the american car thief guy.

This is the third time a beetle has been used in conjunction with Sylar's character. The first is when he is held captive and forces the your wan to shoot herself in the head, then again at the end of season 1 we see a beetle crawling out of the sewer and now we see a beetle near the dead body of the american car thief. In the first two instances it seemed like Sylar transferred his powers to the insect but I don't know why a beetle was shown next to your man's body in this weeks episode. Really odd.

Skud

Not Great

damn i thought it was gonna be sylar's dad! It still might be in the photo! there's definitely 1 man left we don't know. By the way why is there 8 paintings and 12 ppl? I guess Charles and patrelli snr. are dead. That leaves 10 - so that's one extra character that's dead or otherwise?!?

Gonna be interesting next week now... Rumour has it

one of the main heroes killed nakamura snr. to me it looked like sylar or peter... so i think the more obivious would be peter

I still can't believe ppl giving out about it being slow. Not much happened in season 1 until episode 9 - homecoming, so i can see something similar occurring here. Building up to another season final.

5starpool

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Arathorn wrote: »

Sylar never used his illusion power? maybe he wasnt able to steal it.

I presume this is because he is still too injured or whatever.

ixoy wrote: »

I still find West creepy and right here, right now, I'm going to make up my Utterly Crazy Theory: West is Parkman's dad via some power (maybe he can grow younger or possess people's bodies). It's why West ended up near Claire as he seeks to take out the next generation and why he's in the last picture as it's him killing everyone in the others, finally turning on the man who was the Company's fixer. You heard it here first people (and probably last).

Good luck with that

seamus wrote: »

As for Micah - I'd say he was just trying to see if he could "tap into" her, but realised he couldn't.

This is what it seemed like to me as well.

seamus wrote: »

Parkman's Dad being the big bad - definite, "Oh savage" moment. I'd go with everyone else's guess that he has some sort of ability to reflect/absorb anyone's power if they use it on him. We had kind of guessed that last season

Yep, I agree with both these, although the fact that Molly was 'trapped' in an unconscious body though Parkman could hear here makes me not as sure on the reflection theory.

Also, I wish Parkman would stop jerking his head when he is reding other peoples thoughts. It annoys the hell out of me.

Rollo Tamasi wrote: »

Nobody has mentioned what I thought was the most interesting thing to occur in this weeks episode....the cockroach/beetle thing appearing besides the dead body of the american car thief guy.

This is the third time a beetle has been used in conjunction with Sylar's character. The first is when he is held captive and forces the your wan to shoot herself in the head, then again at the end of season 1 we see a beetle crawling out of the sewer and now we see a beetle near the dead body of the american car thief. In the first two instances it seemed like Sylar transferred his powers to the insect but I don't know why a beetle was shown next to your man's body in this weeks episode. Really odd.

How do you notice these things? (although you couldn't not notice the bettle/roach this time) As for the transferring power thing, how do you figure that?

User45701 wrote: »

I do think its possible that the killer is not parkmans dad and perhaps the big bad will be killed by the killer as a twist, they finally find the big bad but he is dead with one of those photos/with symbol on them on his body.

I think this would be fairly lame, although having sylar killing him would be good. Maybe he kills Molly and finds him that way?

All in all, a much better episode I thought. The next one will probably be all Nikki/Peter/Hiro though with a bit of Claire thrown in for good measure. Ugh.

quazzy

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Faith wrote: »

Why did Sylar introduce himself as Gabriel Grey?

I think he introduced himself as Gabriel is because he has no power (at the moment) and considers himself to be his weak old self.

Or you could say he's broken - IIRC he looked at his broken Sylar watch before answering.

Good episode though.

seamus

OK

Looking at the picture - is the woman in the bottom-left Uhura? I think it's pretty obvious that's she's going to have a power of sorts.

Rollo Tamasi

5starpool wrote: »

How do you notice these things? (although you couldn't not notice the bettle/roach this time) As for the transferring power thing, how do you figure that?

When he was captured he seemed to be in a coma or sorts. We saw a beetle near his head, it was over emphaised that a beetle was in the room with him. When we thought that Sylar might be dead at the end of season 1 we saw a beetle once more... Why? - It seems to me that he can transfer himself to this beetle when he wishes.

Baldie

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Rollo Tamasi wrote: »

This is the third time a beetle has been used in conjunction with Sylar's character. The first is when he is held captive and forces the your wan to shoot herself in the head, then again at the end of season 1 we see a beetle crawling out of the sewer and now we see a beetle near the dead body of the american car thief. In the first two instances it seemed like Sylar transferred his powers to the insect but I don't know why a beetle was shown next to your man's body in this weeks episode. Really odd.

I noticed this as well. The cockroach actually appears 8 times:

Genesis

While speaking to his class at Chennai University, Dr. Mohinder Suresh cites the cockroach as the pinnacle of evolution, and lists several of its advanced attributes. Later on, Mohinder arrives at his fathers apartment, and is disgusted when he steps on a cockroach that he sees on the floor.

Don't Look Back

The exterminator tells Mohinder that cockroaches have infested the floorboards of his apartment. After they scuffle, Mohinder says that cockroaches are the least of his problems.

Godsend

At Primatech Paper Co., Sylar watches a cockroach roam the floor of his cell

The Fix

Sylar remains on the floor of his cell and watches the cockroach walking next to his head.

Unexpected

Dale notes that when she first realized her powers, the sound of a cockroach's footsteps in her neighbor's home sounded like a marching band.

.07%

While Matt is unconscious in his cell, a cockroach crawls across Matt's meal.

How to Stop an Exploding Man

At Kirby Plaza, a cockroach crawls over an open manhole cover near a trail of Sylar's blood.

The Kindness of Strangers

A cockroach crawls over the brick which Sylar has used to kill Derek in the Mexican gas station.

In an interview, Tim Kring said he became fascinated with the idea of cockroaches possibly being "the pinnacle of evolution because they were so capable of adapting and existing in really troubled times. They are so perfectly genetically engineered. So, for me, it became the embodiment of this idea of evolution.

In a Q&A session the writers said emphatically that Sylar did not turn into a cockroach at the end of the season finale.They also suggested that it was symbolism that Sylar is like a human cockroach —- he's near impossible to completely get rid of.

quazzy wrote: »

I think he introduced himself as Gabriel is because he has no power (at the moment) and considers himself to be his weak old self.

Or you could say he's broken - IIRC he looked at his broken Sylar watch before answering.

Good episode though.

Ya I thought this as well. He announced himself as Gabrial Grey because he does not have his powers, so he is not Sylar....

Hyzepher

Sylar may have problems if he tries to steal the powers of the twins - her power looks pretty instantaneous and we have already seen can incapacitate Sylar very quickly.

I don't think west is in any way bad. Noah just saw that Claire was with a boy at the time of his death - no boy = less likely for painting/future to come through. I don't think the boy is the cause of his death.

Parkman's dad being the Badman and by inference being the killer is a bit weird. If he is the killer then concealing his image/identidy wasn't necessary as we had never seen parkman's dad before - leads me to believe that the killer is someone we have met before.

Sylar's appearance in Mexico will need to be explained. His storyline this season has been a little odd and must be a means to an end. So far it have served to allow Sylar steal Candice's power - nothing else.

The photo is interesting. Noah isn't on it but he is one of the 8 paintings - so it's not all about who is in the photo.

Monica's power looks interesting - if she can replicate anything she sees then she has a power similar to Peter's i would assume. in fact somewhere between Peter and Sylar.

Micah's attempt to "tap" into Monica leads me to believe that he has done it successfully before - we'll see.

funky penguin

OK

Thank god for this episode. It was much needed.

The Sylar/Twins story could prove to be very interesting. I'm guessing he's gonna kill one, and then a symbiotic relationship will occur.

Definately the best so far this season.

Sherifu

Hyzepher wrote:

Noah just saw that Claire was with a boy at the time of his death - no boy = less likely for painting/future to come through.

Agreed.

Hyzepher wrote:

I don't think the boy is the cause of his death.

I disagree, I think it must be a westicide, given the history.

Mahatma coat wrote:

well now that was much better, what is the new chicks powers, is it a cross between Charlie and Peter or what?

It seems to me to be the 'monkey see, monkey do' power

Faith wrote:

Why did the camera spend so long on Micah hand on her back?

I thought that Micah was trying to fix her like he does machines, make her happy. After the hug he says 'I wish I could fix your dreams'

I believe the cockroach is just a symbol for Sylar, I didn't read anymore into it
All in all a much better episode, heres hoping the twins get fixed

Goodshape

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Very good episode. I think not having any Oirish / Hiro / Nikki really helped. I don't mind the Oirish stuff as much as some of you, but it's definitely a distraction and sort of kills the immersion level.

Sylar was really great in this episode. Having him meet up with the Plague Twins is a stroke of genius.. makes that whole storyline a thousand million times more interesting. In fact everyone and everything seemed much more focused and interesting here than it has so far this season.

I was honestly beginning to worry after episode three that things were going to be pretty damn dull this season but, as others have pointed out, it's easy to forget that most of us watched the first whole pile of season one episodes pretty much back-to-back (I know I did)... and thinking about it, it took at least this long for that to really start going anywhere. Of course then you had the advantage of everything being new and somewhat more interesting anyway, but still.


Can't say I really cared about Parkmans dad being the 'bad man'... It'll probably prove to be interesting in the future but for now it tells us next to nothing. We've never seen nor heard of Parkmans dad before. Even Parkman hasn't seen him in about twenty years or whatever it is. So it didn't really feel like much of a revelation.

And I hope Molly stays in that coma for a long time. Dreadful annoying character.

Greg Grunberg (Parkman) was great in this episode though --- I like how he feels the need to share his thoughts and secrets with people, because it's 'only fair'. Can really see how his power has effected (affected?) him on a personal level.

Good to get rid of Nathan's beard too. Was it a fake beard? Didn't look right anyway.

seamus wrote: »

Looking at the picture - is the woman in the bottom-left Uhura? I think it's pretty obvious that's she's going to have a power of sorts.

Doesn't look like Uhura to me... would have to be her younger self if it was (judging by her hair and.. well, she just looks younger) but no one else in the picture is any younger than they currently are. I was surprised not to see her in the photo though. Can't imagine they got Nichelle Nichols in just to chop tomatoes and look after the kids.

randomchild

Hyzepher wrote: »

The photo is interesting. Noah isn't on it but he is one of the 8 paintings - so it's not all about who is in the photo.

Perhaps the guy with claire in the painting is in the photo? (Perhaps covered by the hand?)

davmi

I dont think parkmans dad is the killer, she is freaked out by him cos he sees her when she thinks of him, which suggests shes met him before! maybe his power is that he can control ppl when they think of him?? doesnt neccarily mean his the bad guy tho.
also i wonder will monicas brother and grandmother display any powers?? seems to run in families..

azzeretti

Mossy Monk wrote: »

The whole Clarie/West thing has me wondering what Mr Bennett is so protective about. He obviously knows something about west.
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I don't think he know anything yet (although when he sees him, he will know because he abducted him and tagged him) he is just worried that when Claire starts dating it will lead to his death, as seen in the painting.

This week was much better, a lot more things to think about, and the cockroach was class - still not sure what to make of that. Also, one thing I notice hasn't been mentioned is the fact that all of Issac's paintings, including the exploding man, may still happen - don't forget that Peter could still explode.

West needs to get scalpped by Sylar (I liked the "tick tock" creaping back in) it won't be long before he's back. Also, I think he was still on the island in the last episode because Candice mightn't have been quite dead, I reckon when she died the illusion dissappeared. No doubt a flashback will help us with that on.

Also, it wasn't very obvious who Parkman was pointing at in the picture (was it? or I am wrong). I have a feeling that Molly looked at the picture and just saw the bad man, who I think is might be the "goldman" running the company. I might be wrong, but I can't recall Parkman pointing at a person, rather he just showed the picture (I think!)

Skud

Not Great

funky penguin wrote: »

Thank god for this episode. It was much needed.

The Sylar/Twins story could prove to be very interesting. I'm guessing he's gonna kill one, and then a symbiotic relationship will occur.

Definately the best so far this season.

(possible future episodes spoiler.. )

if they kill off one of the twins it's gonna be the brother... All the tours before the series included the girl and not the brother. Seems like she gonna be in the show for a long while like shreesh, parkman, claire, sylar....

Just appears that way to me anyways

I think the cockroach symbolised a troubled man... the guy sylar killed was in jail and robbed claires car (which they blatently pointed out) or else it symbalised sylar coming back slowly... imo



[Goodshape] added spoiler tags... I know it's nothing concrete but your making educated guesses based on info some people (like me) might want to avoid. [/Goodshape]

Redisle

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Best episode so far this season I think, Although things are still pretty slow, but as someone else said the first few eps of season1 werent all that great, I didnt notice so much because I watched the entire first season in 2 days

The thing about parkmans dad was kind of interesting when I watched it but thinking about it after it wasnt all that great.. all it and the Monica thing really did was suggest that powers run in families. Molly being in the coma, It was kind of an "oh no" moment when I realised she was somehow stuck inside her head or trapped by the bad man.. but then I did realise that she is a very irritating character and we are probably better off..
I really liked the storyline of Sylar meeting the twins.. Just when he realised they were murderers/had powers his own power of understanding how things work came back (the ticking) and presumably he is going to attempt to steal the twins powers, kind of strange him appearing on a road in mexico after being in the middle of nowhere, but as someone else suggested maybe candice wasnt dead yet?? Or maybe she isnt dead at all? Its possible him killing her may have been an illusion she created? It would explain why he dosent seem to have her powers.. maybe she is still alive and just wants him to think she is dead when she is in fact following him or something?

Its also pretty interesting/weird that the guy has Claire's car.. really shows us that everything/everyone is linked together.. strange thing is that he had keys to the car when leaving the police station so did Claire leave the dam thing unlocked with the keys in the ignition!!??

azzeretti

ab_cork wrote: »

Its also pretty interesting/weird that the guy has Claire's car.. really shows us that everything/everyone is linked together.. strange thing is that he had keys to the car when leaving the police station so did Claire leave the dam thing unlocked with the keys in the ignition!!??

It wouldn't be that hard to have these two storylines (Sylar and the rest) running at different time frames. It could be that we are seeing Sylar and the twins a couple of weeks after Clare and West (i.e the storyline is purposly jumping forward and back). It could be that the American bloke the twins took with them from the jail cell originally stole Clare's car. One thing is for sure though, we'll find out soon.

Hobbes

Baldie wrote: »

In an interview, Tim Kring [/FONT]said he became fascinated with the idea of cockroaches possibly being "the pinnacle of evolution because they were so capable of adapting and existing in really troubled times. They are so perfectly genetically engineered. So, for me, it became the embodiment of this idea of evolution.

They aren't though. It is an urban legend based on that they would survive a nuclear war. If the human population was wiped out the cockroach would die out in most of America in under 3 years.

http://www.worldwithoutus.com/did_you_know.html

Ya I thought this as well. He announced himself as Gabrial Grey because he does not have his powers, so he is not Sylar....

I think he does have his powers, or some are coming back. He picked up the brick, but you didn't see him follow the guy into the back room. He might of used TK to move the brick. It is one of the first powers he stole.

Goodshape

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Hobbes wrote: »

I think he does have his powers, or some are coming back. He picked up the brick, but you didn't see him follow the guy into the back room. He might of used TK to move the brick. It is one of the first powers he stole.

You did see him go into the back room after picking up the brick. You didn't see what he did in there (next shot he was getting into the car) but I'd guess he hit yer man in the head.

Unless I'm mistaken. (don't think so).

Cockroaches could be just symbolism I guess.. but if it is then it's being used a bit too much.

Suaimhneach

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I think West is hot, and I am glad of some eyecandy, as I am sure many of the female viewers are. Not so hot on the storyline romance right now, but I trust the writers to make it interesting.

Definitely a great epiosde. I couldnt help saying "He's in Cork" when Ma Paterli was like "I cant lose another son"

Lol.

Lookin forward to next week,

lynski

does anyone else think Clare and West might be brother and sister? We know nothing about him, and Nathan seems to travel a lot and didn't not seem to mind spreading his seed either. And West has the same power. Just a thought.

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lynski wrote: »

does anyone else think Clare and West might be brother and sister? We know nothing about him, and Nathan seems to travel a lot and didn't not seem to mind spreading his seed either. And West has the same power. Just a thought.

That would be so gross, and wrong. I'm actually logicing it out. He'd have to be a half brother... ick. I hope not. I hope the writers arent going to go down that road.

Why hasnt Clare the charachter thought that tho!

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Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Easily the best of the first four eps of this season IMO. The story is starting to develop, the Twins story is no longer an isolated one and I like Mica's cousin Monica (619). It seems her power is like an iproved version of Charlies (i think that was her name, Hiro's girl in season 1) who coincidentally also worked in a restaurant.
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She had google brain, that was her power

seamus wrote: »

Looking at the picture - is the woman in the bottom-left Uhura? I think it's pretty obvious that's she's going to have a power of sorts.

Ye its her alright and yes she does clearly have a power but i hope its like Ms Petreli whos power we have still to see

Rollo Tamasi wrote: »

Nobody has mentioned what I thought was the most interesting thing to occur in this weeks episode....the cockroach/beetle thing appearing besides the dead body of the american car thief guy.

This is the third time a beetle has been used in conjunction with Sylar's character. The first is when he is held captive and forces the your wan to shoot herself in the head, then again at the end of season 1 we see a beetle crawling out of the sewer and now we see a beetle near the dead body of the american car thief. In the first two instances it seemed like Sylar transferred his powers to the insect but I don't know why a beetle was shown next to your man's body in this weeks episode. Really odd.

Baldie wrote: »

I noticed this as well. The cockroach actually appears 8 times:

Genesis

While speaking to his class at Chennai University, Dr. Mohinder Suresh cites the cockroach as the pinnacle of evolution, and lists several of its advanced attributes. Later on, Mohinder arrives at his fathers apartment, and is disgusted when he steps on a cockroach that he sees on the floor.

Don't Look Back

The exterminator tells Mohinder that cockroaches have infested the floorboards of his apartment. After they scuffle, Mohinder says that cockroaches are the least of his problems.

Godsend

At Primatech Paper Co., Sylar watches a cockroach roam the floor of his cell

The Fix

Sylar remains on the floor of his cell and watches the cockroach walking next to his head.

Unexpected

Dale notes that when she first realized her powers, the sound of a cockroach's footsteps in her neighbor's home sounded like a marching band.

.07%

While Matt is unconscious in his cell, a cockroach crawls across Matt's meal.

How to Stop an Exploding Man

At Kirby Plaza, a cockroach crawls over an open manhole cover near a trail of Sylar's blood.

The Kindness of Strangers

A cockroach crawls over the brick which Sylar has used to kill Derek in the Mexican gas station.

In an interview, Tim Kring said he became fascinated with the idea of cockroaches possibly being "the pinnacle of evolution because they were so capable of adapting and existing in really troubled times. They are so perfectly genetically engineered. So, for me, it became the embodiment of this idea of evolution.

In a Q&A session the writers said emphatically that Sylar did not turn into a cockroach at the end of the season finale.They also suggested that it was symbolism that Sylar is like a human cockroach —- he's near impossible to completely get rid of.




Ya I thought this as well. He announced himself as Gabrial Grey because he does not have his powers, so he is not Sylar....

I dont know, ive always assumed that the cockroach is a reference to a power that syler has that we have yet to see, we can assume he killed more people than the ones we have seen.

One of my friends believes its the power of another hero,

But i stil ldont understand all all the references to the symbol and to the solar eclipses, what about the whole God is a cockroach idea? They are a far soupier species to man biologically and might even survive longer than our own species, remember Starship troopers? they made a good point about cockroaches being soupier in the classroom at the start of the movie...

funky penguin wrote: »

Thank god for this episode. It was much needed.

The Sylar/Twins story could prove to be very interesting. I'm guessing he's gonna kill one, and then a symbiotic relationship will occur.

Definately the best so far this season.

He would have to kill them both because one would assume if he had your ones power and not his then he would die, he seems to control her power one is positive, one is negative

davmi wrote: »

I dont think parkmans dad is the killer, she is freaked out by him cos he sees her when she thinks of him, which suggests shes met him before! maybe his power is that he can control ppl when they think of him?? doesnt neccarily mean his the bad guy tho.
also i wonder will monicas brother and grandmother display any powers?? seems to run in families..

Im more interested to see what powers Nathans kids will display because they are about micas age

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Don't want to go off topic too much, but despite the flaws in Hiro's story, I love the new graphic novel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_graphic_novels

Goodshape

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User45701 wrote: »

Ye its her alright

I really don't think it is her (Uhrura / Micka's grandmother) in the photo.

See the attached image, close-ups of the 12 faces. Doesn't really look anything like her IMO.

For comparison, there a picture of the grandmother here : http://heroeswiki.com/Nana

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User45701 wrote: »

He would have to kill them both because one would assume if he had your ones power and not his then he would die, he seems to control her power one is positive, one is negative

Oh, I realise that. What I mean is unintentionally leave one alive. One may escape or what have you.