Supplement risk for 16 year old?

eroo

well im 16 and about to start using NutritionX Mass X.just wondering is there any health risks from a weight gainer for a 16(17 in december) year old?i've been working out now for about 9 1/2 months but looking to start to bulk up big time so turning to MassX!

thanks in advance

eroo

Smellyirishman

What's your diet like? No adverse effects that I know of.

tribulus

I can't see there being any health risk, it's not AAS like though you should try really hard to get as much whole food as possible and only use the massgainer (I prefer the term meal replacement) sparingly or at least in addition to lots of whole food.

And yeah post up your full diet.

Roper

Ask yourself these questions:

Am I training 5/6 sessions per week or more?
Is my diet spot on? Really? Am I eating enough of the right things?
Have I tried to vary my training and tried different things to increase my results?

I think, without trying to be condescending, that at age 16 you haven't. As people above have said, there's no real health risks but in my opinion, people move on to supplementation far too quickly. As a young athlete at the beginning of your adult training span, you need to maximise your body's ability to grow using whole food sources and good training. Stay away from supplements and only use them when you have a good coach's advice on how and when to use them.

I have a guy in a similar situation to you. 17, wants to get stronger but doesn't want to spend 2 years doing so. He told me he'd started to have a protein shake in the evenings t "bulk up". I was abit concerned, so we sat down and went through his diet. He made some changes (or as he actually said he got his Ma to make some changes:D) and is beginning to see results in his performance and strength. He doesn't need an additional protein source outside of whole foods, not yet.

So my advice is at your age- stay away. With your age group's mega metabolism and growth rate you should be seeing lots of results without it.

Colm_OReilly

Roper has deadlifted the correct on this one.

What exactly is your routine? What exercises are you using?

What diet are you following?

Also, for what reason do you wish to bulk up?

These will help us help you reach your performance goals.

eroo

well i do some 'super set' exercises: 30 sec rest+stretching between sets
shoulder press+squat 12 reps 2 sets each
lunges 12 reps 2 sets
bicep curls 8 reps 2 sets
tricep dips(25/30 reps 2 sets)+tricep extensions(8 reps 2 sets)
lateral raises+frontal raises 12 reps 2 sets each
press ups(30 reps 2 sets)+squat thrusts(20 reps 2 sets)
bent over rows+single arm row 12 reps 2 sets each
'superman' ex's for low back 30 reps 1 set
the above given to me by a PT as low back pain runs in family so its tailored for me.

Diet
breakfeast:4 weetabix,wam low-fat milk w/honey+wholewheat toast w/honey
mid morning:1 banana
lunch:4 slices of wholwheat bread,2 cans of tuna w/cottage cheese=tuna samich!!
mid-afternoon:nutri grain or protein bar
dinner:can vary from shepherds pie,beef stew,salmon parcels,haddock kedegree,grilled lamb steak,wholewheat pasta,turkey strips,lemon chicken,pork,roast chicken.these are served with either rice or salad or spuds
mid evening snack:ham sandwich w/2 slices of ham+cottage cheese+mayo
supper:5 weetabix(weetabix is my fuel!)

i wish to bulk up because i plan on joining the gardai after my leaving cert this year.i want to bulk up now then focus on muscular endurance and strength in a few years time.i do cardio but i was doing too much which cut into my cals so i cut back on cardio.i will focus on cardio before i join up.i was doing 50/60 min runs 3/4 times a week before and the diet i posted was nothing like the one i was on then.i barely reached my calorie rda everyday.

now the reason for supplements...as its my LC year between grinds+afterschool study+homework etc,i cant always get enough protein and cals into me everyday so it would make life easier.i make my own protein shake that gets me around 35g protein and 345 cals but it takes time to prepare+ingredients AND it can leave me feeling bloated afterwards which hinders a PWO meal....a supplement would purely make life easier...
anywho,theres the info so give me some feed back

eroo

Hanley

WAY too much unneccessary volume on unimportant exercises there imo.

I was recently talking to one of the guys I train with an he put forth a great idea. He said the best gains he ever got were on what he'd call 12 set workouts. He usually did it with 5-12 reps. You do only a total of 12 sets (not including core or specific arm and calf work) for the day. The 12 sets DO NOT include warm ups. They're with "working" weight, ie wieght that's hard for you.

So it might look something like this...

Day 1
Deadlift 3x6
Bent Over Rows 3x10-12
Pull Ups 3x max reps
Shrugs 3x8

Day 2
Bench 3x8
Dumbbell Press 3x12
Military Press 3x8
Lateral Raises 3x12

Day 3
Squats 3x5
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 3x10
Leg Press 3x12-15
Leg Curls 3x10-12

It is such a simple but incredibly effective idea I think.

EDIT: On the supplements, if you're mad busy then a shake a day on the run won't kill you. Just make sure you're eating enough real food too.

yomchi

Roper wrote:

Ask yourself these questions:

Am I training 5/6 sessions per week or more?
Is my diet spot on? Really? Am I eating enough of the right things?
Have I tried to vary my training and tried different things to increase my results?

I think, without trying to be condescending, that at age 16 you haven't. As people above have said, there's no real health risks but in my opinion, people move on to supplementation far too quickly. As a young athlete at the beginning of your adult training span, you need to maximise your body's ability to grow using whole food sources and good training. Stay away from supplements and only use them when you have a good coach's advice on how and when to use them.

I have a guy in a similar situation to you. 17, wants to get stronger but doesn't want to spend 2 years doing so. He told me he'd started to have a protein shake in the evenings t "bulk up". I was abit concerned, so we sat down and went through his diet. He made some changes (or as he actually said he got his Ma to make some changes:D) and is beginning to see results in his performance and strength. He doesn't need an additional protein source outside of whole foods, not yet.

So my advice is at your age- stay away. With your age group's mega metabolism and growth rate you should be seeing lots of results without it.

Geat advice Roper old bean.
At 16 you haven't even started into your primary years of training. I've had similar experiences with some of the teens I train. They've reached 16/17 and now they want to beef up and stop feeling tired. After a trawl through their diets obvious weaknesses popped up, which have been rectified.
At your age its all about balance, a complete balance of all 3 macronutrients - carbs, protein and EFA's. Eat healthy, train hard be happy!
And as Roper said, take all your macro's from whole foods.

Vegeta

Hanley wrote:

So it might look something like this...

Day 1
Deadlift 3x6
Bent Over Rows 3x10-12
Pull Ups 3x max reps
Shrugs 3x8

Day 2
Bench 3x8
Dumbbell Press 3x12
Military Press 3x8
Lateral Raises 3x12

Day 3
Squats 3x5
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 3x10
Leg Press 3x12-15
Leg Curls 3x10-12

It is such a simple but incredibly effective idea I think.

will be robbing that program for the near future thank you very much

walt0r

u from ennis eroo?

Vegeta

walt0r wrote:

u from ennis eroo?

That's 3 lifters from Clare, come on the banner

Arsenal1986

Really doubt youll see much benefit from that routine man. Bit all over the place, no Deadlifts or bench pressing and way too high reps as a basic rule shouldnt be doing any more than 12 reps per set for Hypertrophy. you should definitly do Hanleys routine, it would do you way way way better. I remember when i was ur age an i woulda thought thats not nearly enough work but believe me a couple of sets of heavy compound low rep exercises is equivalent to curling all day. heres some other ideas for routines;
http://www.teamtestforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2037

eroo

walt0r wrote:

u from ennis eroo?

nope...why?

Colm_OReilly

Your diet is lacking in veg and fruit, get more of this in.

As for the guarda fitness test, anyone who does any training souldn't fail it, so it shouldn't be an issue.

I disagree with some of Hanley's routine (leg presses/hamstring curls!) but it's pretty solid, involving compound lifts. Throw in some weighted dips and it'd be cool. You could throw in the bench as well - benching solves everything

He's bang on about the amount of exercises and reps as well.

Colm