Spiked

LegacyUser

Anyone have any experience of being spiked?

I have no idea what happened to me Sunday night. Went out after a match and had a few bottles. I had work the next day so made sure I was sticking to beer while the rest were doing shots and stuff. I was having a great laugh and then suddenly i'm blank. I can tell the exact moment my memory went. And I remember absolutely nothing until the next morning, and even then I was still out of it. It's like somebody put a wall up and i can't remember anything after that. I've had experiences probably like everybody else where you've had too much to drink and you've a fussy memory the next morning etc etc but never for hours on end.
My bf told me the next day that when I got home I was mumbling, couldn't talk and was hallucinating in the bedroom. I was trying to push wardrobes out of the way that weren't there and stupid stuff like that. When I woke up the next morning I was still out of it. I remember the next day but I was all over the place. It was like I was still in lalaland.

Does anyone have any experience of this? I'm normally very sceptical about spiking and stuff like that but this is after freaking the crap out of me.

LegacyUser

'This happens a lot of people, you started drinking and got a bit drunk and then you got very drunk and blanked out which is why you can't remember getting very drunk.'

Latchy

Sorry to hear of your expierence and every girls nightmare .The problem is you have no, or very little resistince to anybody leading you away if they spike you with a rape drug . This sort of thing is quite common in big cities Like London and it is not uncommon to see girls with their fingers over the bottle tops ,or making sure a friend is watching their drinks while going to the ladies room .

Knockoff Nige

Well i guess the best advice would be to see a doctor. Get checked out, make sure you're healthy.

echosound

Haven't had drink spiked personally myself, but it did happen to my friend while we were in college years ago. one minute she was fine, we went to the loo, left a table of drinks (with members of our group still sitting at them) but it was a busy club and anyone could possibly have dropped something in a drink and it went unnoticed. After she returned and finished her drink, she just went. could not stand, could not talk, was on the verge of passing out, so we carried her out of the club (reported it to the bouncers who more or less laughed as us and told us she was just locked, even though it was only her 2nd drink (Longneck beer) that night, carried her home, stopped to allow her to throw up a few times, and her flatmate had to sit with her through the night as she was vomiting in her sleep and even vomited blood. She was completely wrecked the next day, groggy and sick, but by the time she had enough strength to go to the doctor to get bloods done to see if there was anything in her system, it was too late for anything to show up.

All I can say is that it was a terrifying experience for her, and for us too, and after that we all made sure to never so much as leave a drink down out of your hand and if you do, leave it there and order another, or frequent quieter pubs/clubs where someone walking to your table and interfering with drinks would be apparent.

Sorry you had this experience, TBH before it happened right in front of my eyes I didn't really think it went on, all I am grateful for is that my friend was lucky enough to have friends who realised what had happened and got her home safely, rather than if she had been out with a crowd who either didn't cop or she was going to be trying to make her own way home, as in this case, she would have ended up unconscious in the gutter and god knows what could have happened her.

I'd try to put if behind you if you can, although I am sure you're fuming and rightly so too - just be more vigilant with your drink when out - with smokers having to go outside for smokes now I'd recommend making sure someone is always keeping an eye on the drinks. Perhaps report it to the bar staff, in case they can keep an eye out to see if anyone is continuing to act suspiciously in the future,or at least just to bring it to their attention. I don't think any establishment would like to think they have a bad reputation due to some git spiking drinks. I just hope they take you seriously as we weren't when we complained to the staff.
I really don't know what prompts people to spike drinks, especially in a situation where you were obviously with your BF and had someone to look after you (ie no chance of you being left to fend for yourself and possibly be taken advantage of). Hope you manage to feel better soon, and try to put it behind you, as there's not much else unfortunately you can do.

Personally when I go out I don't leave my drink at all, and if I'm in a crowd I'd probably keep a hand near the top
if you want to go dance/go to bathroom, always finish the drink first...

Sorry it happened to you, maybe you could get bloods done though I suppose it is too late now

Latchy

I really don't know what prompts people to spike drinks,

They are Evil ...................

LegacyUser

Thanks guys. Does anyone know how long a drug would stay in your system?? I would really love to know for definite if I was spiked. It was Sunday night it happened so with today being Wednesday I don't know if it's too late!
I just find it so unusual that I was like that. I wasn't with my bf, I was with mostly a group of girls with one or two fellas. It was only when I got home that he saw the effect it had on me. I woke up the next morning at 10am, i had to go to work because it was our busiest day of the year but one of the girls in work told me that she's never seen me "as drunk" as I was in work that day. Which is what makes me think I was spiked. I'd never be like that after just drink.

LegacyUser

What i'm about to say may shock you, but there's a 99% chance your drink was not spiked, and that everything you experienced was down to the presence of alcohol in your system.

There's nothing you've described that I havent seen drunk people do. Also i've know several girls (not being intentionally sexist here) who've thought they had their drinks spiked but it has in every case turned out to be alcohol.

Also worth noting that date rape drugs are not known for their hallucinogenic qualities, and while of course anyone vunerable should be alert to the dangers of such techniques, the chances are a rapist is not going to casually spike your drink while passing by and then dissapear for the night.

And nobody but nobody uses recreational "non-rape" drugs to spike random strangers drinks. People are too selfish to do that.

aidan24326

It's possible that your drink was spiked though I really don't think this is as common as some people would make out. But you should definitely get checked out by a doctor, it could be a medical issue and even if you were spiked you've no idea what has gone through your system or what harm may have been done. Probably no major harm at all so I don't want to be worrying you, but I'd see a doctor just the same.

biko

Go to hospital, explain what happened and see if they will agree to check your blood for traces.

Tbh, they probably will not bother as there was no accident or anything connected to the incident. But you never know.

tbh

Unreg031007 wrote:

And nobody but nobody uses recreational "non-rape" drugs to spike random strangers drinks. People are too selfish to do that.

not true AT ALL.

LegacyUser

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tbh wrote:

not true AT ALL.

Can you think of any reason why they would? Bearing in mind that we're talking about a random stranger and recreational drugs? They wont get to see the aftermath, they have to part with their own drugs free of charge and without any thanks. What would they spike it with?'

Vegeta

Go to a doctor and get blood work done and ask how long these things stay in your system

Rob_l

What are the published statistics for drink spiking in this country. I am not aware of any proven cases, in every case I have heard of hospitals dealing with supposed spikings it was a case of tooo much alcohol and nothing else.


Any evidence to the opposite?

LegacyUser

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Unreg031007 wrote:

What i'm about to say may shock you, but there's a 99% chance your drink was not spiked, and that everything you experienced was down to the presence of alcohol in your system.

There's nothing you've described that I havent seen drunk people do. Also i've know several girls (not being intentionally sexist here) who've thought they had their drinks spiked but it has in every case turned out to be alcohol.

Also worth noting that date rape drugs are not known for their hallucinogenic qualities, and while of course anyone vunerable should be alert to the dangers of such techniques, the chances are a rapist is not going to casually spike your drink while passing by and then dissapear for the night.

And nobody but nobody uses recreational "non-rape" drugs to spike random strangers drinks. People are too selfish to do that.

Maybe it could have been just drink. I'm obviously open to that possibility too. I mean I was drinking but it's the next day that is freaking the crap out of me. I was completely out of it for all the next day. Not just a case of when I got up or for an hour or two but literally from 10am until 6pm that evening I wasn't right. Surely that's not drink?'

meglome

It happened to an ex of mine. We are out with a big bunch of people quite a lot of whom were into pills in a big way. We both liked to drink but never touched drugs. Anways she felt really terrible, dizzy, queasy... hard to describe properly but quite different to being drunk. She then began vomiting for Ireland. We ended up in James hospital where she had to wait for 8 hours to get an adrenaline shot while puking the whole time. It was a terrible experience. The hospital staff were rude and completely horrible... "Sure you were spiked, you're the fourth case tonight" (I do get that people take drugs then pretend they were spiked but they didn't give a ****). They left us there for eight hours and then had a go at us because she had managed to puke on the floor, bile and blood at this stage.

The worst part of it is she was spiked by someone who thought it was funny. I would go ****ing mad if I ever saw anyone attempt to spike someone, it really really isn't okay.

CherieAmour

The following link might be of interest OP, I posted my own experience of it there and there are others who have posted opinions, advice etc:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055148942

Was your boyfriend and friends with you all night??

LegacyUser

'That is such rubbish. Nobody reacts to pills like that. Or was it pills laced with rat poision? '

meglome

Rob_l wrote:

What are the published statistics for drink spiking in this country. I am not aware of any proven cases, in every case I have heard of hospitals dealing with supposed spikings it was a case of tooo much alcohol and nothing else.


Any evidence to the opposite?

The hospitals assume that either you took the drugs yourself or you're just drunk (or both). But they don't appear to be checking properly so how can they know. In the case I mention above the hospital accepted that drugs were taken but dismissed it out of hand when we told them that it was a spiking. And believe me I argued about it.

CherieAmour

meglome wrote:

The hospital staff were rude and completely horrible... "Sure you were spiked, you're the fourth case tonight" (I do get that people take drugs then pretend they were spiked but they didn't give a ****).

That was my experience too, they treated me like crap - I think it was because Saturday night is generally a hot spot for people drinking too much and they lumped me in with the rest but I knew I was spiked, so did my friends. I was screaming and crying and I remember a member of staff grabbing me by the shoulders and shaking me around telling me that someone had just died and to shut up. Sure I didnt know that, I didnt know what was going on!:(

Vegeta

Rob_l wrote:

What are the published statistics for drink spiking in this country. I am not aware of any proven cases, in every case I have heard of hospitals dealing with supposed spikings it was a case of tooo much alcohol and nothing else.


Any evidence to the opposite?

On the late late (I think, sure it was Pat Kenny) anyone who ever got tested for date rape drugs tested negative, 0 cases involved date rape drugs. The only thing in their system was excess alcahol.

That was a few years ago though so it could be vastly different now.

A quick search on wikipedia shows that:

"The sedative effects of Rohypnol begin to appear approximately 15–20 minutes after the drug is ingested. The effects typically last from four to six hours after administration of the drug, but some cases have been reported in which the effects were experienced 12 or more hours after administration. In recent news it has been discovered that scientists can now detect flunitrazepam and related compounds in urine at least up to 5 days after administration of a single dose of Rohypnol and up to a month in hair."

meglome

Vegeta wrote:

On the late late (I think, sure it was Pat Kenny) anyone who ever got tested for date rape drugs tested negative, 0 cases involved date rape drugs. The only thing in their system was excess alcahol.

That was a few years ago though so it could be vastly different now.

I'm not even talking about any date rape drug I'm just talking about whatever pill these scumbags have handy.

BaZmO*

echosound wrote:

Haven't had drink spiked personally myself, but it did happen to my friend while we were in college years ago. one minute she was fine, we went to the loo, left a table of drinks (with members of our group still sitting at them) but it was a busy club and anyone could possibly have dropped something in a drink and it went unnoticed. After she returned and finished her drink, she just went. could not stand, could not talk, was on the verge of passing out, so we carried her out of the club (reported it to the bouncers who more or less laughed as us and told us she was just locked, even though it was only her 2nd drink (Longneck beer) that night, carried her home, stopped to allow her to throw up a few times, and her flatmate had to sit with her through the night as she was vomiting in her sleep and even vomited blood. She was completely wrecked the next day, groggy and sick, but by the time she had enough strength to go to the doctor to get bloods done to see if there was anything in her system, it was too late for anything to show up.

That's the thing that I don't get, you're friend was spiked and she was up all night vomiting blood and yet you decided to wait until she was alright to visit the Doctor on her own accord? Surely if she was that bad would should have taken her to Casualty or got a Doctor to call to the house?

Vegeta

meglome wrote:

I'm not even talking about any date rape drug I'm just talking about whatever pill these scumbags have handy.

I know but the OP was talking about blacking out for hours which is usually associated with date rape.

Rob_l

meglome wrote:

The hospitals assume that either you took the drugs yourself or you're just drunk (or both). But they don't appear to be checking properly so how can they know. In the case I mention above the hospital accepted that drugs were taken but dismissed it out of hand when we told them that it was a spiking. And believe me I argued about it.

this was people you knew I dont consider this spiking although you might I would however suggest you find better people to associate with.

Rob_l

Vegeta wrote:

On the late late (I think, sure it was Pat Kenny) anyone who ever got tested for date rape drugs tested negative, 0 cases involved date rape drugs. The only thing in their system was excess alcahol.

That was a few years ago though so it could be vastly different now.

A quick search on wikipedia shows that:

"The sedative effects of Rohypnol begin to appear approximately 15–20 minutes after the drug is ingested. The effects typically last from four to six hours after administration of the drug, but some cases have been reported in which the effects were experienced 12 or more hours after administration. In recent news it has been discovered that scientists can now detect flunitrazepam and related compounds in urine at least up to 5 days after administration of a single dose of Rohypnol and up to a month in hair."

how many rohypnol have been seized by the gardai in this country surely there should be some record of the drugs being in the country.

I need some proof before i cna accept date rape drugs
I have personally witnessed women get stupidly drug and then the following day claim they were spiked I can assure you they were not
I have also had a male friend of mine try to claim hew was spiked again he was not but could not handle the alcohol he tried to take that night

meglome

Rob_l wrote:

this was people you knew I dont consider this spiking although you might I would however suggest you find better people to associate with.

I was just trying to point out that there are different types of spikings not just where someone is trying to have sex with someone else without their consent. And as far as I'm concerned if someone slips you drugs without your knowledge or permission you were spiked, even if you know that person and no matter what drug it was.

It was a work thing and she changed jobs.

craichoe

Rob_l wrote:

how many rohypnol have been seized by the gardai in this country surely there should be some record of the drugs being in the country.

I need some proof before i cna accept date rape drugs
I have personally witnessed women get stupidly drug and then the following day claim they were spiked I can assure you they were not
I have also had a male friend of mine try to claim hew was spiked again he was not but could not handle the alcohol he tried to take that night

You'd know if your drink was spiked.
Happened to me, legs wouldn't work, face was numb, mouth wouldn't work properly when i tried to talk.

That is not what happens when you get drunk.

The amnesia is really scary too !

Rob_l

craichoe wrote:

You'd know if your drink was spiked.
Happened to me, legs wouldn't work, face was numb, mouth wouldn't work properly when i tried to talk.

That is not what happens when you get drunk.

The amnesia is really scary too !

all those symtoms could be brought on by adverese reactions to alcohol

there is much proof needed not just personal feelings intuition

LegacyUser

'Oh i dunno, maybe it was alcohol related or maybe it was drug induced. It's just the weirdest experience I have ever had in my life! Especially the next day.
My head is wrecked after it.'

craichoe

Rob_l wrote:

all those symtoms could be brought on by adverese reactions to alcohol

there is much proof needed not just personal feelings intuition

Adverse reaction to Alcohol ..... I think i'm old enough and have consumed enough to know what an adverse reaction is thanks.

After working in a bar trade a number of years, spiking is VERY common. Seeing someone collapse in a chair after 1 drink and turning into a pile of jelly is proof enough for me.

One girl had about half a glass of wine and she was falling all over the place, she couldn't see properly, couldn't talk, didn't know where she was.

ROHYPNOL is very very difficult to test for, thats the whole point. In most cases they find out someones been raped by testing for semen or evidence of penetration. Its so successful because the symptoms are almost identical to being very very drunk.

If you've seen enough of them you can tell the difference straight off, its not really a lack of coordination, its more like they've forgotten how to use their limbs.

Reasons people spike drinks ?

Could be any of the following:
1. They think its funny
2. Their a sad little pr*ck that has sinister intentions.
3. They think their friend might like it because they think x or y drug is great and cant understand why the person won't try it.


Anyways, bottom line, the symptoms are not the same , their close but definitely not, i don't think you can say that until you've seen it.

estar

tbh wrote:

not true AT ALL.

a friend of my bf had his drink spiked with acid by acqaintances for fun

he had a blood test done the next day and it showed up positive

alcohol is a very potent drug itself, and women have far less tolerance

than most of them think

tiredness and lack of food often make a huge difference to me - i cannot
drink more than two drinks on an empty stomach without being visibly
tipsy and more than four and my words slur.

just be careful where you hang out, and what you do with your drink

LegacyUser

It happened me once before in a club. I was on maybe my fourth of fifth drink and can't remember anything after it. I've had my fair share of having too much to drink when I go on a mad session with the lads but this was different and couldn't remember how I got home.
I was told the next day that friends had to keep me held up because I wasn't able walk and was talking to myself. When I got home I ended up rolling around in the front garden. It was really scary and to this day I bring my drink with me everywhere and don't even ask a friend to keep an eye on it.

mikemac

I'd say the vast majority of people who claim to have been spiked just couldn't handle their alcohol. Noone has ever been convicted for using a date rape drug in this country. Of course it happens but far less than you might think.

I realise the OP wasn't doing crazy drinking but we've all had nights where we had ten drinks and remember everything and other nights we have 4-5 drinks and blackout and do stupid stuff. The OP was poisoned allright; by alcohol.

If someone does crazy stuff on a night out due to alcohol they get told to cop on and stop drinking so much but if they claimed they were spiked then they immediately get sympathy. No wonder many people claim they were spiked.

Esel

Rob_l wrote:

how many rohypnol have been seized by the gardai in this country surely there should be some record of the drugs being in the country.

It's a prescription drug ffs.

Pinker

Unreg031007 wrote:

What i'm about to say may shock you, but there's a 99% chance your drink was not spiked, and that everything you experienced was down to the presence of alcohol in your system.

Also worth noting that date rape drugs are not known for their hallucinogenic qualities, and while of course anyone vunerable should be alert to the dangers of such techniques,

And nobody but nobody uses recreational "non-rape" drugs to spike random strangers drinks. People are too selfish to do that.

:mad: Yes people do use recreational drugs to spike drinks, it has happened me....I have also spotted an xtc tablet in a gf drink just as she was about to finish it off, very close call!... I know of people who have done it-and lastly I have seen it being done...so IT IS NOT a myth...wake up people ...I never leave a drink out of my sight..i even bring my bottle to the gents when going....


Why assume its a date rape drug??...

There was a similiar thread recently, check it out...plenty of people referred to being spiked...and yes i had toxicology reports done..

My head was fried for a long long time afterwards.....recreational drugs do not suit me....and for the record there were gardai in the hospital when i arrived, they treated me as if I was delusional,and fobbed me off....., the nurses and doctors while they treated me well, refused to accept I was spiked, telling ,me afterwards to stay off the old pills!....the nurses actually got confused at one point and tried to convince me the guards had brought me in, when in fact my friends drove me to the hopsital....might attitudes like this this be why spikings are not recorded??...in the end one nurse believed me when I told her who I was as she knew my family...

LegacyUser

unregspike wrote:

It happened me once before in a club. I was on maybe my fourth of fifth drink and can't remember anything after it. I've had my fair share of having too much to drink when I go on a mad session with the lads but this was different and couldn't remember how I got home.
I was told the next day that friends had to keep me held up because I wasn't able walk and was talking to myself. When I got home I ended up rolling around in the front garden. It was really scary and to this day I bring my drink with me everywhere and don't even ask a friend to keep an eye on it.

That is exactly it! Everything you said I had the other night.
The girls told me I was sitting on a window sill while we were waiting for a cab and just flopping around.

Pinker

It Happens wrote:

'That is such rubbish. Nobody reacts to pills like that. Or was it pills laced with rat poision? '

Oh really, well certain people may be allergic, hence psychosis, death or unusual reactions, keep in with the pill poppers for long enough and you'll come across some awful reactions-guaranteed....I could list of a number, not loads, of violent reactions...A class mate of mine dropped dead on pills a few years back...

Villaricos

craichoe wrote:

You'd know if your drink was spiked.
Happened to me, legs wouldn't work, face was numb, mouth wouldn't work properly when i tried to talk.

That is not what happens when you get drunk.

The amnesia is really scary too !

Happened to my cousin too, only two weeks ago. She's not a big drinker, would have a couple of beers (bottles) on a night out. And that loss of control of movement happened to her too. She doesnt remember a thing.

She was brought to the hospital and they said yes it probably was rohypnol. Shes very shook from the experience and of course she has idiots saying 'oh you were just drunk'


Wake up people. This happens.

milkerman

Your drink MAY have been spiked.
On the other hand....
Exactly how much did you have to drink? You said initially 'a few bottles'. A few bottles could put me into orbit under some circumstances (anyone remember Furstenburg?)
The symptoms you describe also match up with being just well pi**ed. There was a similiar thread to this one just a few weeks ago from some bloke. He had started with an entre of a few beers before a main course of whiskey and then wondered if his drink had been spiked.

Dr_Teeth

I think the biggest danger with this spiking phenomenon is people who believe that alcohol is 100% safe and that any time they have a bad or unexplainable experience it *must* be down to some criminal mastermind going around poisoning people with other drugs.

They think all these conspiracy-like theories instead of facing the fact that they're using a dangerous drug and bad things can happen even when they are consuming the same number of units they usually do. Come back to me when this happens to a friend of yours who was drinking mineral water all night.. I'll wait. :P

BaZmO*

Dr_Teeth wrote:

I think the biggest danger with this spiking phenomenon is people who believe that alcohol is 100% safe and that any time they have a bad or unexplainable experience it *must* be down to some criminal mastermind going around poisoning people with other drugs.

They think all these conspiracy-like theories instead of facing the fact that they're using a dangerous drug and bad things can happen even when they are consuming the same number of units they usually do. Come back to me when this happens to a friend of yours who was drinking mineral water all night.. I'll wait. :P

Well said. Never seems to happen when people just drink water or lemonade.

It really amazes me that some people refuse to except just how powerful an intoxicant alcohol can be.

Posters keep on saying that people need to wake up to the fact that spiking does happen however, nobody has denied this. What people are saying is that all the symptoms of being spiked that have been described so far are the exact same symptoms as having consumed too much alcohol.

I'd also be intrigued to know the ages of all the victims involved in these alleged spikings.

HashSlinging

I believe her, I've heard of people spiking drinks just for the hell of it, with no interest in the party, and just for a kick, although it could have been a case of the OP being well minded on her way home and that she's lucky something more sinister didnt happen.

meglome

I started drinking when I was 11 or 12. I tend to drink spirits and have done so in the pub since I was 16, I've drunk straight poteen. So i have no doubt that some people who are drinking could think they've been spiked as they're having a bad reaction to the booze. That said the problem I have is if you turn up in hospital with a bad reaction to drugs they assume you took them yourself. And no matter what you say they refuse to believe you might have been spiked. In the incident I posted earlier in the thread someone spiked my exes drink for the fun of it as she didn't take drugs. It really frightened her but nobody was even slightly interested in hearing what happened.

LegacyUser

'Unfortunately the heroic hospital staff in this country treat anybody who comes in the door between 8pm on Friday and 8am on Monday morning with absolute contempt. It's just assumed they have overindulged on drugs or drink, without even attempting to find out the facts.

A friend of mine had serious spinal and head injuries after falling down stairs. To be honest we weren't aware of the extent of his injuries so we brought him to the hospital in a taxi (being responsible citizens we didn't want to trouble the ambulance service). He was clearly in a bad way but their attitude was "he's taken drink, he's scum, we'll deal with him whenever we feel like it". They are a disgrace.

God help anybody who has to visit hospital after taking even 1 drink, they will get absolutely no respect and if they require urgent treatment, just pray they are lucky and don't die in the meantime.'

LegacyUser

I had about 6 bottles (of Bud). And these were spread out over the day.
We played a match up the country so had two up there, after a big dinner. Then had nothing on the bus down, had 3 in a local pub and then had 1 in town. Was on my 2nd in town when... bang!

I just find the whole thing frightening. The fact that I was still out of it the next day scares the **** out of me, also the amnesia. I know that I can't be 100% sure I was spiked. But i'm pretty convinced I was. I was going out of my way not to drink a **** load cuz I had work the next day and then this.

tbh

Unreg031007 wrote:

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Can you think of any reason why they would? Bearing in mind that we're talking about a random stranger and recreational drugs? They wont get to see the aftermath, they have to part with their own drugs free of charge and without any thanks. What would they spike it with?'

some people are just assholes. I promise you, it happens.

Mullah

Two points:

1. The plural of anecdote is not data.

2. Afsdhfi: you clearly cannot possible conceive why the A + E community have a dislike of the drunken oafs who turn up every Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday nights at every hospital in this country.

Here's something that may surprise you: through wanton self indulgence idioits consume too much alcohol and then clog up the A + E in every single hospital in the state meaning that those who have been injured through no fault of their own - car accidents, injuries at home, etc- find themselves having to jostle with the self abusers for treatment. Medical staff and patients also find themselves at physical risk from these clowns.

Your attitude is typical of two things: the type of selfish pricks who get drunk and then demand the helath service clean up the mess and the type of alcohol excusing prick who sees the problem lying with the health service not this society's acceptance and encouragement of the consumption of excess alcohol.

BaZmO*

Mullah wrote:

1. The plural of anecdote is not data.

I like that, I must remember that one.

North&South

Originally Posted by Dr_Teeth: Come back to me when this happens to a friend of yours who was drinking mineral water all night.. I'll wait. :P

Originally Posted by BaZmO*: Well said. Never seems to happen when people just drink water or lemonade.

I have 3 daughters - all go out occasionally with work friends, etc - my eldest drinks whisky as her preferred choice, the youngest drinks alcopops - I've seen them in some right states, I can tell you! These episodes usually end up with the other girls using make up pencils drawing/writing things on their 'poorly' sisters face & then taking lots of photos.... such sympathy & compassion!

However, a few months ago, my middle girl went out with people from work - about 10.30pm I got a call from her mobile - didn't understand a word she was saying, and then it sounded like she was carrying her phone without realising that the line was still open... I heard a guy telling her to get into a car.... she was being quite stubborn about it tho, but she didn't sound right.
Then I heard the jingle coming from a local amusement arcade... it plays over & over.... so, I jumps in the car & broke all speed limits driving the 2 miles there.... to find a small crowd of people around my daughter trying to 'calm her down' & a stranger who was telling everyone she was his girlfriend & he was trying to get her home!

Why did I react so quick? Because I HEARD that she was 'drunk'.... because she NEVER drinks - she's a mineral water girl - got so drunk when she was 15, it's put her off for life! After the incident, her friends confirmed that she'd been on mineral water, but had complained that after a dance, her water 'tasted off' (!?!) And who was the stranger? Who knows, he quick scarpered when I got there & no-one (least of all me) thought to look at his registration number - but I still know what he looks like........ heaven help him if I ever see him again :mad:

Anyway, she's ok now & I'd say we all had a near miss - now ALL my girls take their drinks with them - even to the ladies room.