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Who to Shout for Now??

  • 22-09-2007 10:31pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭


    Ok lets be realistic, Ireland are out.

    So that begs the question who to shout for now??

    Well for me i'll be shouting for....Argentina, they have been the most entertaining, exciting, creative team in the WC so far.
    And i think it would be great for the game in a "world" perspective to have a team from south america go as far as possible.

    I also hope they win the pool, as this will mean they will be up against scotland or italy in the QFs and they should take either of them.
    This will also mean France will be up against the All Blacks which should be a cracker!!


    So c'mon the Pumas


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    so you'll be shouting for them against us on Sunday?

    you must be nuts to think they have been exciting or creative, at all, never
    mind more than everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Would like to see Fiji emerge from their group ahead of Wales...Overall winners - wouldn't mind the All Blacks - some amazing rugby so far.

    And I still hope for Ireland to get out!


    Will still cheer for some of the lesser nations or hope that they do alright - they have brought a lot to this World Cup and have seemed to enjoy it...Also helps that they have been very passionate! It's great that they are there.

    🤪



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    copacetic wrote:
    so you'll be shouting for them against us on Sunday?.

    well yes.......ireland don't deserve to be in WC quater finals

    you must be nuts to think they have been exciting or creative, at all, never
    mind more than everyone else.

    don't quite get ya??.........you don't think they're an exciting team?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Argentina


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    I'm not gay in the slightest, but I'm weak at the knees for Argentinian Full Back/Out Half JM Hernandez. He's an amzing player and an amazing cut of a man.
    Check him out making one of the best tackles ever on Somoan brute Tuilagi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wZArJ0IaJo

    Also, check out this raunchy photshoot:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2LI5cWpCG0&mode=related&search=

    If Ireland go out as expected I'll be cheering on JM and the rest of the Argies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭daniel3982


    I will be supporting Ireland until Argentina get their bonus point, then I'll be cheering them on for the rest of the tournament.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    jayteecork wrote:
    I'm not gay in the slightest, but I'm weak at the knees

    well maybe you're confused;)


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    philstar wrote:
    well maybe you're confused;)

    Admit it - when you see JM on the pitch you think to yourself "Now that's a fine looking fella"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    jayteecork wrote:
    Admit it - when you see JM on the pitch you think to yourself "Now that's a fine looking fella"

    no i don't, not into diagos ;)

    is your name nigel owens bye any chance??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    jayteecork wrote:
    I'm not gay in the slightest, but I'm weak at the knees for Argentinian Full Back/Out Half JM Hernandez. He's an amzing player and an amazing cut of a man.
    Check him out making one of the best tackles ever on Somoan brute Tuilagi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wZArJ0IaJo

    The pink jerseys are a bit of a giveaway tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    I'll be supporting the Boks once Ireland are confirmed as out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 admsitio


    Argentina (Los Pumas)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Yeah, the Argies.

    But not until Ireland have played them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    admsitio wrote:
    Argentina (Los Pumas)

    Las pumas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    obl wrote:
    Las pumas
    Los Pumas! ;)

    http://www.uar.com.ar/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Diamondmaker


    RuggieBear wrote:

    I certainly would not refer to them in the feminine down a dark alley!!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I'll also be chearing for the pumas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Meh, una puma meams a puma. I guess it's cause their a group of guys...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Maskhadov


    France


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 admsitio


    Why "The Pumas" or "Los Pumas"(in spanish)

    In 1965, the Argentine Rugby Team makes a tour by Rodhesia and South Africa, gains 11 of the 16 disputed parties and the 19 of June gain an historical victory over juniors Springboks by 11 to the 6 in the Ellis Parks stadium. In this tour they are baptized "Pumas" by the South African press, since the reporter of the weekly magazine "The Weekly Farmers" called thus because of the "Yaguareté" of the shield.

    40.gif

    The "Yaguareté" (jaguar or Panthera onca) is a New World mammal of the Felidae family and one of four "big cats" in the Panthera genus, along with the tiger, the lion and the leopard of the Old World. The jaguar is the third-largest feline after the tiger and the lion, and on average the largest and most powerful feline in the Western Hemisphere. The jaguar's present range extends from Mexico (with occasional sightings in the southwestern United States) across much of Central America and south to Paraguay and northern Argentina.

    225px-Standing_jaguar.jpg

    The "Puma" (Cougar - Puma concolor), also Puma, Mountain Lion, or Panther, is a mammal of the Felidae family, native to the Americas. This large, solitary cat has the greatest range of any wild terrestrial mammal in the Western Hemisphere,[3] extending from Yukon in Canada to the southern Andes of South America. An adaptable, generalist species, the Cougar is found in every major New World habitat type. It is the second heaviest cat in the New World, after the Jaguar, and the fourth heaviest in the world, after the Tiger, Lion, and Jaguar, although it is most closely related to smaller felines.

    225px-CMM_MountainLion.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    I'll be supporting Australia. This is because I have some family connections there.

    But of course I will be shouting for Ireland for as far as they go in the tournament. It makes for tough viewing at the moment but that is what being a fan is all about - you gotta stick by your team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    Any 6N team. I don't expect them to win, but I don't feel the need to support someone because I think they'll win. I don't like the smugness of the Southern Hemisphere fans I've detected browsing the web (Silver Fern and the like).
    As far as the Argies are concerned, I don't think they've been one bit creative or exciting to watch. It's like watching a less impressive version of the England team of four years ago. All bashing away with forwards with a few decent backs and a brilliant fly half. They caught France cold and hammered teams that should be hammered. We'll probably not do much damage to them, but that's another story. Should've been a tough win for us instead of a probable hiding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Argentina for me, then France - only because I think it's better for the game if it doesn't go to a tri-nations team again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    I will be supporting Ireland. I will shout for whoever performs best in each match when we are knocked out.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    I shall be supporting Ireland to the bitter end. After that I am just hoping to see some cracking games of rugby in the knockout stages of the tournament.

    (With a soft spot for the NH teams and the Argies)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Ireland, and after Ireland go out I wont be cheering for anyone!

    I will watch the rest of the games, as an interested neutral :)

    I really dont understand the need to be 'up' for somone in every game/sport/league


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    Ireland of course. Couldn't care less who wins it once we're out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    philstar wrote:
    So that begs the question who to shout for now??

    Ah, the fair weather fan. Hang your head in shame, we'll be shouting for Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,602 ✭✭✭patmac


    Of course, I will be shouting for Ireland but on the off chance they just might not make the Quarter-Finals, I shall be also cheering on the €60 a week Tongans against Les Anglais, also I hope the French do well as despite charging obscene amounts of money for beer they were very gracious hosts over the weekend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    For the development of the game I will be cheering on Tonga to beat England and hopefully Australia which they won't as I think Australia may will the WC.
    Then the Italians to beat Scotland and get into the Quarters. But overall Argentina as I think the game needs it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Erin Go Brath


    I'll be cheering on England..................................................Ahh only joking :D .

    Will be cheering Ireland to the bitter end. (that'll most likely be Sunday then)

    After that Argentina, Tonga, Scotland and Wales are all teams I'd like to see doing well.

    NZ are shoe-ins to win this WC though. Would be major suprised if anyone else bar SA even give them a decent game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    il gatto wrote:
    Any 6N team. I don't expect them to win, but I don't feel the need to support someone because I think they'll win. I don't like the smugness of the Southern Hemisphere fans I've detected browsing the web (Silver Fern and the like).
    As far as the Argies are concerned, I don't think they've been one bit creative or exciting to watch. It's like watching a less impressive version of the England team of four years ago. All bashing away with forwards with a few decent backs and a brilliant fly half. They caught France cold and hammered teams that should be hammered. We'll probably not do much damage to them, but that's another story. Should've been a tough win for us instead of a probable hiding.


    It seems Argentina have caught France cold in five of their last six meetings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Marshy


    philstar wrote:
    no i don't, not into diagos ;)

    is your name nigel owens bye any chance??
    Lol :D

    I'm actually up for France. Allez les Bleus :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    nipplenuts wrote:
    Ah, the fair weather fan. Hang your head in shame, we'll be shouting for Ireland.

    a fan of rugby first and foremost, thats why i want the argies to go through they have been the most entertaining team of all and deserve to be in the WC quarter finals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    It seems Argentina have caught France cold in five of their last six meetings.

    Ireland lost twice during the summer and it'll probably be three times after Sunday. But the Irish team who played on that tour were a second stream team. However, it'll forever be recorded as two defeats. Likewise, three of those five wins for Argentina were in Buenos Aires in one off tests, in which France fielded experimental teams and didn't approach as competitively as they would've elsewhere. I don't think Argentina winning five out of six against France is a fair representation of their relative quality.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    il gatto wrote:
    three of those five wins for Argentina were in Buenos Aires in one off tests, in which France fielded experimental teams and didn't approach as competitively as they would've elsewhere.

    ya but France did'nt field an experimental team on the opening night when they were stuffed by the pumas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    That's why I said they were caught cold. And besides, 90% of Laportes teams are experimental in some way. Haymens at fullback was an experiment which went terribly wrong in that match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭pd101


    Ireland all the way. Would love to see Fiji and Tonga going through aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 TangoGolf


    No One RWC is over for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,189 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    A few people on this forum have said that true fans don't turn on their team but support them no matter what. I come from a county that produce more bad days for it's fans than probably any other in history of our home grown game. We gripe and complain but then we keep coming back for more. And there is one big reason for this, the guys work for a living like us, they are not pampered professionals.

    The current team are professionals, not amateurs who had day jobs like the old days of Ciaran Fitz, Tony Ward, Wille Duggan, Moss Keane, Nick Poppelwell, Phil Orr etc etc.

    This team don't have the old excuses anymore, that they did not have enough time together, that they did not have time to work on their moves, that they don't have facilities.
    They have probably more time together than their French or Argentine counterparts have had.

    Now the excuses flying around is they are training too hard, that they are over trainined, doing the wrong training. Give us a break.
    I wouldn't mind if we didn't have to listen to their tv/radio adds, find half of them writing columns in the papers, listen to them contributing to various radio shows. Have to watch EOS spouting drivel at every opportunity.

    We have contributed only one thing to this world cup and that is bemusement amongst the worlds rugby pundits and fans. They are all wondering what the hell our team are doing and how the hell our team and it's stars have performed so badly.

    If we don't complain and kickup now, the current setup continues.
    Over next few years we will probably win a few matches in 5 nations, possibly triple crown if we can overcome a resurgent England or Wales on bad day.
    Then 4 years on, we will be in harder group in WC. We will still have EOS at the helm, with half of our current squad of good players probably gone. Nice thought isn't it :(

    Saying all that I will be effing at the TV come the weekend hoping they perform a miracle.
    Why are some teams so painful to follow :confused:

    EDIT: Just spotted picture of Eddie the Spin on front page of Indo with hurley. Could someone, preferably from Munster, take it off him and use it to give him a new hair parting?

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    ...and the match a few months ago where France beat Argentina by a point in France? Surely, that match would focus French minds to the fact Argentina were not to be taken lightly.
    Having played them fives times and lost at least twice with a full team it simply doesn't makes sense that France were caught cold. I mean look at Ireland's record against France in the last four years.
    Argentina are a good side no matter how you try to spin France losing the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    I didn't dispute that they're good. Just that beating France is not does not make them an exciting team or even a great team. I'm not spinning anything. I don't care how France lose. Argentina have always been a tough team, but just because we're likely to go out at their hands, I think feel the need to talk them up. We'll go out to an average team. That's our fault and not because Argentina are all that special.


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