Ryanair Airport check in fees applicable from today....

Colonel Sanders

Now costs a total of 9 euro each way if you want to check in a bag on a Ryanair flight. This is an absolute rip off and will most certainly curb my use of the airline.

Low fares no longer mean low cost where Ryanair is concerned.

rossie1977

They will keep raising charges as long as fuc*in idiots like me keep using Ryanair

John R

Just to clarify.

This applies to flights booked from today. Flights booked before today with airport check-in are not subject to an extra check-in charge.

Savman

Man I hate that airline. Unless its a budget trip to UK I shan't be using that shower anymore.

philcsl

The baggage charges and bad enough but they charge €6 per booking to pay by credit card - and of course thats the only payment type they accept!! I just booked 6 flights on one transaction that cost €36 in credit card charges!

Total for 6 Passengers
Fare Price 131.88 EUR
Airport Check-in Fee 36.00 EUR
EUR Web Baggage Fe 72.00 EUR
Credit card fee 36.00 EUR
Taxes, Fees & Charges 326.52 EUR

Total Price 602.40 EUR

Still only €100 each but its a bit disheartening when every time you click a button the price goes up...

rossie1977

yeah its bad and getting worse :mad: but i did book two return flights to malta for about €80 last week

i do remember the dark days though circa 1995 when travel agents expected you to pay IR£200+ for a flight from Dublin to London :eek: I ended up getting the eurolines

John R

philcsl wrote:

The baggage charges and bad enough but they charge €6 per booking to pay by credit card - and of course thats the only payment type they accept!! I just booked 6 flights on one transaction that cost €36 in credit card charges!

Total for 6 Passengers
Fare Price 131.88 EUR
Airport Check-in Fee 36.00 EUR
EUR Web Baggage Fe 72.00 EUR
Credit card fee 36.00 EUR
Taxes, Fees & Charges 326.52 EUR

Total Price 602.40 EUR

Still only €100 each but its a bit disheartening when every time you click a button the price goes up...

It is €3 per leg for credit card payment but €1 for debit card payment so you could have saved €24

jjbrien

How long till Aer Lingus puts up theirs I wonder as you know they always copy what ryanair does.

lasno

John R

The problem is that they only accept the Visa Electron debit card and as far as I know that card is not available from Irish banks.

faceman

ryanair are making it harder for people to like them. i will no longer be taking any trips with them where i need to bring luggage.

philcsl

John R wrote:

It is €3 per leg for credit card payment but €1 for debit card payment so you could have saved €24

I tried paying by Laser but I have a BOI Laser card and they wouldn't accept that one. There is a cheap option paying by a German debit card but they even charge the €6 per person for a return flight if you are using a Ryanair credit card (which I don't)...

philcsl

faceman wrote:

ryanair are making it harder for people to like them. i will no longer be taking any trips with them where i need to bring luggage.

I think making the online check in free is a good idea because everybody who books a flight has internet access so there's no reason not to use it if you have no baggage, plus you can turn up 20 minutes before the flight and still make it.

I don't agree with them charging the €6 airport check in when you want to check in baggage which has already cost €12. I would not mind at all if there was an alternative such as the Aer Lingus self check-in.

TCollins

Their priority check-in scam became a bit of a joke at airports.
They would call out that priority chek-ins were to go first then the rest of the people would check-in after them only to see the gob****es who paid for priority just sitting on the bus to the plane before them.
It was hiarious.

so now they have to find a different way to pick your pocket.

Colonel Sanders

philcsl wrote:

I don't agree with them charging the €6 airport check in when you want to check in baggage which has already cost €12. I would not mind at all if there was an alternative such as the Aer Lingus self check-in.

yeah this is a joke. You get charged 12 quid to bring a bag on a return trip and they don't allow you to avail of the free check in option if you are bringing a bag so are then forced to pay another 6.

Must admit I'll probably only use them for short hop trips from now on when I don't need to bring check in luggage.

Galadriel

What I hate is you DON'T want to check in ANY luggage, so you select 0 baggage, but then you get an error saying you either have to select 1 bag to check in OR priorty boarding at 3euro each/each way!! Say I don't want
to check in any luggage and I don't want priorty boarding? but I still have to pay for one of them!

One Cold Hand

They really are the Ticketmaster of the Airline industry. Everyone hates them but no one can stop using them!

Noelie

People use them because they are cheaper than the other airlines. I've gotten 2 return tickets to Birmingham for €52 all inc. I've travelled with them on many times and never had a problem.

I don't see why everyone always has it in for them

opa01_2000

I have stopped using them unless no other option. What gets me is that there is a fixed charge to ScumAir for a credit card transaction (probably less than 1 euro for the amount of transactions they put through the Visa system) but they charge per passenger i.e. in the example above they charged for 6 credit card transactions even though there is only one.

They are a disgrace to Ireland !!!

One Cold Hand

Noelie wrote:

I don't see why everyone always has it in for them

I think the main problem is their prices are going up, but they're trying to disguise it as a 'baggage charge' or a cc charge, instead of just saying 'oh our fares are up a fiver.' If they just had a flat price with everything inluded, I think everyone would be happier. There's no point in having the cc charge seperate, as everyone has to pay it anyway.

youcancallmeal

Galadriel wrote:

What I hate is you DON'T want to check in ANY luggage, so you select 0 baggage, but then you get an error saying you either have to select 1 bag to check in OR priorty boarding at 3euro each/each way!! Say I don't want
to check in any luggage and I don't want priorty boarding? but I still have to pay for one of them!

Yep I couldn't believe this when I was booking my flights. I'm heading over to Paris this coming weekend for the Ireland rugby game and I had only planned on bringing a carry on bag yet I'm still forced to pay the priority boarding fee!? Even though I was had to pay for it I certainly wont be embarrassing myself by going to the top of the line when called out

philcsl

youcancallme>al wrote:

Yep I couldn't believe this when I was booking my flights. I'm heading over to Paris this coming weekend for the Ireland rugby game and I had only planned on bringing a carry on bag yet I'm still forced to pay the priority boarding fee!?

This has actually changed now so you don't need to pay for the priority check in when you select zero bags. It used to default to charging €6 if you select zero bags but there was an option in small print a few lines down to remove the priority part and have no charge but I only saw this when it was pointed out to me.

lasno

Priority boarding is free to passengers travelling with hand baggage only.

Colonel Sanders

there was also the fact that after de-selecting all the additional charges if you presses the 'back' button on your brouser they were all re-selected :mad:

Btw when does the EU legislation regarding advertising fares w/o taxes and charges come in? Also how will this apply to CC and luggage fees?

faceman

not sure when it comes in but i know the irish government is in the process of making it illegal to charge credit card processing fees

carrotcake

I wasn't so happy about this when I heard about it, but they're still much cheaper than the rest. And the sales that they have also seem to get better every year. The current offer is €12.99 including taxes - they're obviously making a loss on that before you add bags etc.

Third_Echelon

they are scam-tacular...

Booking return flights to London for 2 people.

If I book for one person the flights are:

69 euro Dublin to London
1 cent London to Dublin

If I select the very same flights except to book for 2 people...

89 euro Dublin to London
1 cent London to Dublin

So if I choose 2 people, there 20 euro person difference for the 1 flight...

folkswagen

book one at a time...that way you will either get one at the cheaper rate or you never know your luck....both!!!!...

unless you are booking an adult and child and in that cse you will have to book them together....

Third_Echelon

folkswagen wrote:

book one at a time...that way you will either get one at the cheaper rate or you never know your luck....both!!!!...

unless you are booking an adult and child and in that cse you will have to book them together....

Did them separately.

Got the first one for 69 for the Dub to Lon leg. The second one I could only get at 89 for the same leg for the second person... scamming bakstards!

carrotcake

I had the same thing when booking flights a few months ago.

BuffyBot

Third_Echelon wrote:

they are scam-tacular...

Booking return flights to London for 2 people.

If I book for one person the flights are:

69 euro Dublin to London
1 cent London to Dublin

If I select the very same flights except to book for 2 people...

89 euro Dublin to London
1 cent London to Dublin

So if I choose 2 people, there 20 euro person difference for the 1 flight...

It's nothing to do with the fact that there are two people, but that there is only 1 seat @ €69 euro left. Pretty much all airlines do what's done here - when you request more seats then that have available at one pricepoint, they offer you the next pricepoint.

hot fuss

Do the new airport check in charges definitely only come in for flights booked on or after 20th September?

I booked flights for this weekend on September 19th but can't find anywhere on their site that says the airport charges only come in on the 20th..

Really don't want to get stung for anymore money from them!

penexpers

Jesus you'd swear that no other airline had a credit card fee.

Third_Echelon

BuffyBot wrote:

It's nothing to do with the fact that there are two people, but that there is only 1 seat @ €69 euro left. Pretty much all airlines do what's done here - when you request more seats then that have available at one pricepoint, they offer you the next pricepoint.

Could have been the case, but I know that they track an IP address and raise prices if you come back looking at a later date for flights etc.... and up the price.

Benedict XVI

Third_Echelon wrote:

Could have been the case, but I know that they track an IP address and raise prices if you come back looking at a later date for flights etc.... and up the price.

Wow, pricing airline seats based on IP addresses now, when will this evil company ever stop :rolleyes:

Dodge

penexpers wrote:

Jesus you'd swear that no other airline had a credit card fee.

its usually per transaction, not per passenger like RyanAir. And some even accept laser/debit cards.

Their baggage allowance is pretty prohibitive too.

For flights to Britian, they're fine though

BuffyBot

Third_Echelon wrote:

Could have been the case, but I know that they track an IP address and raise prices if you come back looking at a later date for flights etc.... and up the price.

AFAIK that's not a feature of the software they use..

penexpers

Dodge wrote:

its usually per transaction, not per passenger like RyanAir. And some even accept laser/debit cards.

Their baggage allowance is pretty prohibitive too.

For flights to Britian, they're fine though

It's per passenger with Aer Lingus too.

faceman

Third_Echelon wrote:

Could have been the case, but I know that they track an IP address and raise prices if you come back looking at a later date for flights etc.... and up the price.

i think you'll find that the reason for the that is that the lower price seats have sold since your previous visit, therefore you are on the next tier of pricing.

Third_Echelon

Benedict XVI wrote:

Wow, pricing airline seats based on IP addresses now, when will this evil company ever stop :rolleyes:

Its not exactly beyond the realms of possibility now is it??? It is ryanair after all... money grabbing at every available opportunity...

Linoge

Third_Echelon wrote:

Its not exactly beyond the realms of possibility now is it??? It is ryanair after all... money grabbing at every available opportunity...

No, it is. Why would they up the price based on the number of times you've visited the site? How does no. of visits correlate with the price you're willing to pay?

And i am firmly on the "quit bitching about Ryanair" side. You pay for what you get.

Third_Echelon

The more you check back for a flight price, the more likely you are that you are interested in buying the flight.... When you see the price go up, you buy it in case it goes up any further... After a few days this lapses..

Linoge

Third_Echelon wrote:

The more you check back for a flight price, the more likely you are that you are interested in buying the flight.... When you see the price go up, you buy it in case it goes up any further... After a few days this lapses..

I think that airfare pricing is a bit more complicated than how interested* you are in a particular flight. While some people might buy when they see the price go up (maybe they have a particular desire to fly Ryanair ), a reasonable person would go to a competitor to find a cheaper price.

The number of times you visit a site couldn't possibly indicate your interest in a certain flight. Surely if you were THAT interested you would have booked it the first time you saw it? What if you were booking from an internet cafe?

30d1a

booked flights with them this evening , got charged 16euro extra on top of fare and airport taxes for baggage and check in fees,


checked the flight again literally 5 mins later and the price had gone up 40 euro lol

Third_Echelon

Linoge wrote:

I think that airfare pricing is a bit more complicated than how interested* you are in a particular flight. While some people might buy when they see the price go up (maybe they have a particular desire to fly Ryanair ), a reasonable person would go to a competitor to find a cheaper price.

The number of times you visit a site couldn't possibly indicate your interest in a certain flight. Surely if you were THAT interested you would have booked it the first time you saw it? What if you were booking from an internet cafe?

Of course its more complicated than that, but its a factor. If you check the price of a certain round-trip for example about 5 or 6 different times with an hour lets say, whilst you are checking other details (competitors, hotels etc), you come back to check the flight again, they know that you are for sure interested in that flight... what other reason would you check it so many times for? (supply and demand). if there is a high demand, they up the price...

Bluetonic

Galadriel wrote:

What I hate is you DON'T want to check in ANY luggage, so you select 0 baggage, but then you get an error saying you either have to select 1 bag to check in OR priorty boarding at 3euro each/each way!! Say I don't want
to check in any luggage and I don't want priorty boarding? but I still have to pay for one of them!

youcancallme>al wrote:

Yep I couldn't believe this when I was booking my flights. I'm heading over to Paris this coming weekend for the Ireland rugby game and I had only planned on bringing a carry on bag yet I'm still forced to pay the priority boarding fee!? Even though I was had to pay for it I certainly wont be embarrassing myself by going to the top of the line when called out

The two of you obviously are incapable of reading the simple message which allowed to opt out of priority boarding, thus ensuring someone with 0 bags didn't have to pay a priority fee.

Sometimes I do wonder why people don't read whats in front of them.

BuffyBot

Third_Echelon wrote:

Of course its more complicated than that, but its a factor. If you check the price of a certain round-trip for example about 5 or 6 different times with an hour lets say, whilst you are checking other details (competitors, hotels etc), you come back to check the flight again, they know that you are for sure interested in that flight... what other reason would you check it so many times for? (supply and demand). if there is a high demand, they up the price...

However, all this is only speculation, no?

I've yet to see IP tracking/price bumping as a feature in an Open Skies software implementation. Unless you can prove otherwise, don't derail the thread further.

Now, for everyone else, let's go back to the actual topic in question

Linoge

Third_Echelon wrote:

Of course its more complicated than that, but its a factor. If you check the price of a certain round-trip for example about 5 or 6 different times with an hour lets say, whilst you are checking other details (competitors, hotels etc), you come back to check the flight again, they know that you are for sure interested in that flight... what other reason would you check it so many times for? (supply and demand). if there is a high demand, they up the price...

Sorry Buffy:o , but just to explain.

When you are looking at fares seats are actually held temporarily as part of the booking process. If you look at the same fares eg. booking for 2 people and you check 5 times, you've actually taken up 10 seats in that price bracket and it will move up to the next. The effect that the price goes back down is when the system realises that you will not be booking those seats and so those 10 seats are freed up again - back down to original price bracket.

Supply and demand. You going back and checking the price 5 times is not the same as 5 different people checking the price. You are after all only buying one ticket, your demand is only for one ticket. You are not literally creating more demand, the system is fooled into thinking there is more demand.

If Ryanair were to use IP tracking they would in fact use it so that this (ie the price going up) would not happen.

And to all, you'd swear that Ryanair had a monopoly?! By all means complain about their poor service and swear off ever using them again, but you can't complain that they have charged you CC fees, check in fees etc when they will still be far cheaper than Aerlingus among others. Also there is a "finish" button. You're well aware of all the charges before you buy, so anyone who is "shocked" at a certain fee just cannot read:rolleyes:

And finally, Ryanair is a private company whos ONLY reason for existance is to return a profit to its shareholders. Where do you think their profit comes from when you are paying 0.01c for your flight??!

Third_Echelon

BuffyBot wrote:

However, all this is only speculation, no?

oh yes of course... just playing devils advocate here

Colonel Sanders

Linoge wrote:

And finally, Ryanair is a private company whos ONLY reason for existance is to return a profit to its shareholders. Where do you think their profit comes from when you are paying 0.01c for your flight??!

1c flights are loss leaders, not all seats on a plane are sold for 1c. Its the late bookers who pay the price for that, resulting in a cross subsidity of sorts.

Agree completely about profits etc but its misleading to advertise a flight for 1c when there are multiple other charges going to apply later down the booking process. I am not complaining about Ryanair trying to make a profit (as you say thats what they do business for), i am complaining about the way they present their fares. As i said de-select all the extras and if you press the 'back' button on the browser (eg if you have made a typing error) they re-select them all. This is sharp practice IMO.

As I said earlier, low fares no longer means low cost with Ryanair. Most businesses will try to treat their customers well to try sway them in the event that a competitor is charging the same price. How many people on here would choose to fly ryanair if they could get the same flight to the same destination for the same price with another air line? Not many would be my guess.

none

Does anyone see anything like discrimination here? I flew with Ryanair many times and even though I had a few grudges, discrimination was not among them. After this "innovation", I have no other words to express it. Basically, it's either an EU passport or a surcharge. You may see it differently because most of you have such a pass, but I can't really describe this situation in any other way. And I'm sure other non-EU folks using this airline on a regular basis see it similarly. That was the reason I didn't proceed to finalise another flight with them a couple of days ago and I think their fill factor will suffer more consequences of this. :cool: But I'm curious if any of you here thought of it this way? Cheers:)

jenizzle

Despite what ye say, I still saved myself €100 by flying Ryanair instead of Aer Lingus - albeit, I'm only going to Berlin for the weekend, and have no bag or extra stuff to be charged for, but money is money.

All you need is time to deselect all the options on the Ryanair site, they automatically select the extra charges for you, like insurance, so you need to be careful what is actually selected before you continue