Manchester United -vs- Chelsea Sun 23 Sept

Theboinkmaster · 20-09-2007 12:15pm #1

Chelsea fans are busy contemplating Mourinho's departure and us United fans are busy reflecting on yet another lacklustre away performance in Europe.

But what does everyone think of the game on Sunday?

I think the result will be totally irrelevant in deciding the outcome of the PL this season but I think United will win.

They're at home and should be confident after winning against both Everton and sporting despite playing badly. They will have a full stength first 11 (other than neville) if hargreaves makes his return. I expect a 4-4-2 with rooney and saha up front.

Chelsea on the other hand are after 2 bad results and I don't think the new guy will be able to lift the dressing room in time for Sunday, especially the senior players like Terry & Lampard who will be majorly pissed off and probably contemplating their futures already....

leninbenjamin · 20-09-2007 12:17pm

By the physical footballing laws everyone writing off Chelsea already will almost certainly guarantee that they get a result on Sunday. i go for a draw.

Pepe LeFrits · 20-09-2007 12:20pm

Draw (accompanied by an Arsenal win) please.

Mr Alan · 20-09-2007 12:20pm

Chelsea to win.

Necronomicon · 20-09-2007 12:27pm

Actually, it would be a typical football thing if Chelsea won, with all the surrounding turmoil.

But another 1-0 to United

Mr Alan · 20-09-2007 12:29pm

i'd love to see the stats . . . but it seems every time a manager leaves a club, they always win their next game, however unlikely it might be

Theboinkmaster · 20-09-2007 12:38pm

millersangel wrote:

i'd love to see the stats . . . but it seems every time a manager leaves a club, they always win their next game, however unlikely it might be

That's true but IMHO this is a completely different situation. The owner of the club fired a very good manager who had the respect & support of the players and will replace him with a puppet, a token manager. I think the new fella will find it extremely difficult to win over the dressing room, especially in the short-term. Although hopefully he'll try to get them to play the attacking fluid style of footie RA wants them to play which could mean a great game to watch on Sunday

jameshayes · 20-09-2007 12:53pm

1-0 utd....

but not from a forward. Scholes or Carrick etc...

shatners basoon · 20-09-2007 1:10pm

If either team do score i'd bank that it'll be as jammy as hell and that neither team will acutally deserve to win the bloody match- draw

Gegerty · 20-09-2007 1:25pm

Boring meaningless draw.

20-09-2007 1:39pm

Didny realise that United played Porto during the week?!!

Im gonna go with 1-0 to United!

PHB · 20-09-2007 2:07pm

millersangel wrote:

i'd love to see the stats . . . but it seems every time a manager leaves a club, they always win their next game, however unlikely it might be

I'm telling ya, there must be some reason for that, it happens a ****load. Either way, I've really no idea. Chelsea have been off-form much more than United lately, and without Drogba I think United's defense should be able to do well enough, although a bit of magic from any of their stars will sort that out. Either way, I think we might see United go at them, with Hargreaves and Scholes, and Rooney and Tevez up front, with Giggs on the wing, and Ronaldo on the other, with Saha coming on after 60 minutes. That team could beat Chelsea's defense, but I'm not sure. We'll see

20-09-2007 2:14pm

shatners basoon wrote:

If either team do score i'd bank that it'll be as jammy as hell and that neither team will acutally deserve to win the bloody match- draw

Ur not a Liverpool fan by any chance are u? How can u possibly be predicting if either team will deserve the win?! Or if the goal will be jammy? Thats ridiculous.

~Rebel~ · 20-09-2007 2:19pm

Might have something to do with having to impress a new man. Players often pull performances out of the bag when they're careers are at stake (eg. Giggs, Viduka for new contracts).

Its like everyone has a clean slate and wants to show what they can do for the new boss.

<Edit> Neil, Shatners probably thinking back to Fletchers winner and some of the turgid Utd V Chelsea games we've had over the past while. For a while Liverpool V Chelsea matches were the same, horrible affairs to watch.

20-09-2007 2:21pm

PHB wrote:

I'm telling ya, there must be some reason for that, it happens a ****load.

Probably to do with players playin out of their skins to impress new manager so as not to lose place/gain a place in the team.

PHB · 20-09-2007 2:28pm

No, I don't mean why they play well, I mean the manager always seems to get fired before the United game

leninbenjamin · 20-09-2007 2:45pm

Deleted User wrote:

Ur not a Liverpool fan by any chance are u? How can u possibly be predicting if either team will deserve the win?! Or if the goal will be jammy? Thats ridiculous.

because more often than not, that's how the matches play out between these tow clubs. why is it ridiculous to think it will happen again?

Mossy Monk · 20-09-2007 3:24pm

0-0

jobonar · 20-09-2007 3:53pm

If United can up thier game then i think we'll win 1-0. Otherwise it'll be another boring 0-0 draw.

Call Me Jimmy · 20-09-2007 4:35pm

I expect to see a terrible game in which someone gets a scrappy goal (if there is a goal scored at all) to win. United haven't exactly been setting the world on fire and chelsea are one of the most boring teams to watch, and I doubt they'll have changed that in a couple of days.

PHB · 20-09-2007 4:42pm

I don't know, what if Ambrovomich really wants attacking football, and comes out with a line up like

Cech

---Ferreira----Terry---Ben Haim---Cole---

Essien----Mikel

---SWP

Joe Cole

Malouda-

Shevchenko

vs. a United line up like

VDS

--Brown

Ferdinand---Vidic

Evra-
-Ronaldo

Hargreaves--Scholes

Giggs-

Rooney

Tevez

Then we could have an absolutely cracking game.

homerjay2005 · 22-09-2007 11:19am

id like to see sahs and rooney up front but fergie will prob persist with one striker.

Smegball · 22-09-2007 11:23am

IF anything it will be Tevez and Rooney up front, I Can still see Giggs being a support striker but

RasTa · 22-09-2007 11:47am

They way Chelsea have being playing lately it has to be a united win. Don't care about the score.

RedorDead · 22-09-2007 9:52pm

Going to this tomorrow and am hoping/expecting a 2-0 win to Utd.

As someone said already P Scholes first scorer.

evad_lhorg · 23-09-2007 12:43am

Im flying out in a few hours for this. cant wait. hoping for a win by more than a goal. was at the same fixture last year adn I enjoyed it but a win would make it much sweeter.

evad_lhorg · 23-09-2007 12:45am

PHB wrote:

I don't know, what if Ambrovomich really wants attacking football, and comes out with a line up like
Cech
---Ferreira----Terry---Ben Haim---Cole---
Essien----Mikel
---SWP
Joe Cole
Malouda-
Shevchenko

vs. a United line up like
VDS
--Brown
Ferdinand---Vidic
Evra-
-Ronaldo
Hargreaves--Scholes
Giggs-
Rooney
Tevez

Then we could have an absolutely cracking game.

Hargreaves wont make the game unfortunately. Nani will play I think.

Im_No_Superman · 23-09-2007 2:13pm

Man U team:

VDS

--Brown

Ferdinand---Vidic

Evra-
-Ronaldo

Carrick--Scholes

Giggs-

Rooney

Tevez

Subs: Kuszczak, Pique, Saha, Nani, O'Shea

Chelsea Team:

Cech

---Ferreira----Terry---Ben Haim---Cole---

Essien----Makelele

---Mikel

Joe Cole

Malouda-

Shevchenko

Subs: Cudicini, Alex, Belletti, Kalou, Wright Phillips

Raskolnikov · 23-09-2007 2:20pm

I imagine J. Cole will play as a winger rather than central midfielder there . . .

Im_No_Superman · 23-09-2007 2:26pm

Raskolnikov wrote:

I imagine J. Cole will play as a winger rather than central midfielder there . . .

Yeah thats more likely alright. Can see giggs up front and rooney on the left too (God I hope not though!)

ROCKMAN · 23-09-2007 2:28pm

Utd team
VDS
BROWN VIDIC FERDINAND EVRA
RONALDO CARRICK SCHOLES GIGGS
ROONEY TEVEZ

looks like 4-4-2 (1/1) great back to your best formation

Chardee MacDennis · 23-09-2007 2:42pm

anyone watching sky sports at the moment. avram grant just said he didnt train with the players on saturday because of his faith, does that mean he cant manage games on sat?

KdjaCL · 23-09-2007 2:46pm

Juat said roman went into the dressing room and camera went to Gullit who was pissing himself laughing

Redknapp being the usual fence sitter, i hope he gets a job with chelsea will at least get him of the tv.

kdjac

Im_No_Superman · 23-09-2007 2:51pm

Redknapp being the usual fence sitter, i hope he gets a job with chelsea will at least get him of the tv.

Here here!

Aquos76 · 23-09-2007 2:54pm

Call_me_al wrote:

anyone watching sky sports at the moment. avram grant just said he didnt train with the players on saturday because of his faith, does that mean he cant manage games on sat?

No, yesterday was some sort of jewish holiday.

ROCKMAN · 23-09-2007 2:56pm

Rooney on Mourinho leaving

"...... make it harder for us.......pull their team together......etc etc"
look like Utd are not falling for this chelsea are in trouble s**t , they still know this is a very good side and it going to be a real test.

ROCKMAN · 23-09-2007 3:30pm

JESUS
VAN BASTEN
sitting with chelsea top guns

KdjaCL · 23-09-2007 3:34pm

jebus :eek:

Miklel sent off straight red

Chelsea RRS on old trafford

kdjac

Davei141 · 23-09-2007 3:35pm

That was a terrible decision by the ref

~Rebel~ · 23-09-2007 3:38pm

thats a joke of a decision. Yellow sure, maybe, straight red not a chance!

Chelsea very hard done by there. They can still keep the same formation though really, with just Makalele and Essien in the middle and have malouda and J.Cole come back a little to cover.

Im_No_Superman · 23-09-2007 3:50pm

Tevez!!! Great finish.

Mossy Monk · 23-09-2007 3:51pm

Nice cross from Giggs, terrible goal keeping though.

ROCKMAN · 23-09-2007 3:52pm

Get In Here

Roar · 23-09-2007 3:54pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

Nice cross from Giggs, terrible goal keeping though.

there's not much else cech could have done tbh, so it can hardly be described as "terrible"

fantastic ball from giggs, and a cracking header from tevez.. that'll be just what he needs..

Mossy Monk · 23-09-2007 3:56pm

Roar wrote:

there's not much else cech could have done tbh

Except get in front of Tevez.

Pepe LeFrits · 23-09-2007 3:58pm

Very poor defending by Terry really.

I went to the pub to watch it but I'm home now, can't be arsed watching that shíte, awful game.

KdjaCL · 23-09-2007 3:58pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

Except get in front of Tevez.

Keeper catches whats in his area, didnt notice any defenders around tevez in fact he seemed to just move forward unmarked for a free header.

Nowt keeper could have done there if he moved forward hes left his net empty.

kdjac

Aquos76 · 23-09-2007 4:01pm

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

Very poor defending by Terry really.

I went to the pub to watch it but I'm home now, can't be arsed watching that shíte, awful game.

To be honest, I watched far worse. Man U are playing quite well.

Roar · 23-09-2007 4:02pm

Mossy Monk wrote:

Except get in front of Tevez.

every goal keeper in the world would have done what cech did, to try and punch the cross away, it was just a very good and very brave header from tevez

Raskolnikov · 23-09-2007 4:14pm

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

Very poor defending by Terry really.

I went to the pub to watch it but I'm home now, can't be arsed watching that shíte, awful game.

I thought it was a good game, the sending off has ruined it though.

~Rebel~ · 23-09-2007 4:20pm

Agreed. It started off ok, both sides pushing forward a bit, but since the sending off its nearly all Man U. Sheva's back to looking disinterested. I think SWP should come on for J.Cole so they can at least have a go at bombing down the flanks.

Another game effectively ruined by a bad ref.

<edit> Kalou on now for sheva. I expect Pizarro on for the last 15mins for when Chelsea start having a go.

Manchester United -vs- Chelsea Sun 23 Sept

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