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Film of the decade (thus far)?

  • 10-09-2007 7:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭


    Any nominations?

    Memento
    Million Dollar Baby
    The Departed
    Brokeback Mountain
    Lord of the Rings Trilogy
    Requiem for a Dream
    Road to Perdition
    Batman Begins
    Finding Nemo
    Zodiac
    Gangs of New York (not really, just for Daniel Day Lewis' performance)
    Gladiator


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Sunshine - what a movie:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    TBH none of those movies even come close to the movie of the decade[thus far :D] .Batman Begins is the best on that list and while not a great movie, still a very very good one
    I personally would be stuck between the likes of Serenity,Children of Men,Donnie Darko and Waitress


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    I was a little underwhelmed by Sunhine.

    Serenity was great fun, Donnie Darko and Children of Men were both very strong, I've yet to see Waitress...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    There's no such thing.

    The beauty of film is that it's an artform, it can't be measured or calculated, because a good film can mean something different for the person who's viewing it, and it can affect people in different ways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    That's a very philosophical way of looking at it...

    I'd like to add-

    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    Mystic River


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    There's no such thing.

    The beauty of film is that it's an artform, it can't be measured or calculated, because a good film can mean something different for the person who's viewing it, and it can affect people in different ways.
    I couldn't have put it better myself. The perfect answer really.

    *Thread dies*
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Eternal Sunshine and Donnie Darko are my two favourites thus far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    Can I save it from said death if we were to consider it instead as "Your favourite film(s) of the decade thus far?" :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    bill and ted's bogus journey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭The Freeman


    toss between lotr's and gladiator imo


    but then again departed is so damn cool:cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭s8n


    OldBoy
    Stranger than Fiction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    There's no such thing.

    The beauty of film is that it's an artform, it can't be measured or calculated, because a good film can mean something different for the person who's viewing it, and it can affect people in different ways.

    Surely this goes without saying. If a definitive 'best film of the decade' existed, the question would not need to be asked.

    Anyway, I'd narrow my choice down to:

    Pan's Labyrinth
    Memento
    Snatch
    The Prestige
    Oldboy
    Gladiator
    Zodiac

    Very hard to choose a single movie, and even harder to know which ones will stand the test of time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭The Denouncer


    Pans Labrinth
    Blew me away, absolutely amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭sme


    i would agree with mr. mod.
    i think that there is a huge difference between deciding whats a great film and your favourite film.

    such as Pan's Labyrinth or Million Dollar Baby, i would consider these great movies, but i wouldn't watch them every week. for a film like that i would turn to talladega nights or 40 year old virgin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Mulholland Drive would top my list easily.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Driver 8 wrote:
    Can I save it from said death if we were to consider it instead as "Your favourite film(s) of the decade thus far?" :p

    Probably not, because that's directly in breach of the charter...If the thread actually led to discussion and dissection of why a particular film is or is not worthy of being considered that highly then yes, but since mostly you just get lists of people's favourite films, it's hardly something worth reading. (I think I saw "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey" mentioned in the thread somewhere, which serves to show the standard of response you can expect).

    Attempting a serious reply to your question, though : for me it'd have to be either Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter...and Spring or 16 Years Of Alcohol.

    Spring Summer Autumn Winter and Spring probably takes it, in fact. It's a beautifully-shot film which makes fantastic use of its location (a remote lake surrounded by mountains, that is in actuality part of a nature reserve in Korea I think). The film's themes are explored without resorting to overly talky scenes - there is instead some very deft characterisation performed through physical acting, which is combined with showing how the characters explore and respond to their environment to really bring in their surroundings as a cast member.

    16 Years Of Alcohol is an altogether different affair. It's no less excellently shot, with a fantastic introduction that serves as both homage and reference to A Clockwork Orange, a film whose themes and character progressions are to some extent mirrored in 16 Years Of Alcohol. The difference is that here we are presented with a character whose honesty and charm are disarmingly engaging, and which make the film's instances of bloody violence all the more shocking. It could be summed up as an exploration of the film's opening line - "Sometimes, for some people, things don't work out as you might have hoped" - but it's much more than that, and much more rewarding for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    There's no such thing.

    The beauty of film is that it's an artform, it can't be measured or calculated, because a good film can mean something different for the person who's viewing it, and it can affect people in different ways.

    Ive always held a simmilar view, i would consider TV/Movies to be the most popular art form because more people are into tv than art

    For me its

    detailed charactors,
    good dialog, great music,
    inter-personal relations between charactors that increases the realism


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    Alright, I'm starting to see this forum is more Sight and Sound than Empire, more IFI than Cineworld ;)

    Which is grand, I'll bear it in mind as regards how I phrase topics like this in the future *nods*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Anyone else think the standard of film the past decade has been utter shiite when compared to the 90s and 80s?

    Not many I can say I thought were great although I loved The Incredibles :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Anyone else think the standard of film the past decade has been utter shiite when compared to the 90s and 80s?

    The area "film" encompasses so many genres, financial markets, geographical regions and releases as to make such a blanket statement meaningless.

    What kind of films are you talking about? And, more importantly, what qualities are you comparing? Bear in mind that given the timespan involved it's likely that a lot of people here had completely different expectations of films in the 80's and early 90's than they do now. It's not exactly fair to say "when I was 5 I enjoyed the Goonies, but there's no kids films out these days that I enjoy as much as that"...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    Fysh wrote:
    It's not exactly fair to say "when I was 5 I enjoyed the Goonies, but there's no kids films out these days that I enjoy as much as that"...
    I first watched The Goonies when I was 16 / 17 and I love it. much much more then any other childrens film I saw when I was younger


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The Bollox wrote:
    I first watched The Goonies when I was 16 / 17 and I love it. much much more then any other childrens film I saw when I was younger

    A valid point. I watched My Neighbour Totoro for the first time last year and it instantly became my favourite 'children's film' (of course, that genre grouping is a spectacularly vague and restrictive one). I also didn't really get the appeal of the Goonies as a young lad, but when I watched it again last year, I adored it for it's sense of scale, adventure and fun.

    I suppose for me my personal film of the decade would be Eternal Sunshine, simply because I felt it advanced the artform tremendously - technically it excelled in every area, an original and effective structure, and pretty much redefined a stale and clichéd genre (the romance film). However, that's just my opinion, and everyone else is sure to have their own, and all valid.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    The Bollox wrote:
    I first watched The Goonies when I was 16 / 17 and I love it. much much more then any other childrens film I saw when I was younger

    Not really my point though - what I was getting at is, if you talk about movies from the 80's & 90's you'll have a lot of people who formed their initial opinions on those movies back when they first saw them, when they may have had completely different ideas on what constitutes a good film.

    Unless you state what type of films you're discussing in the comparison, and the basis for what you will consider a "good" film, you run the risk of a load of people making nostalgia based claims about how much better the films were back then. Which is really no better than talking about the good old days back when young people had manners, or how the youth of today are all little bastards, or whatever.

    So is anyone else going to back up why they nominated the films they did, or am I the only one in this thread who thinks that it's worth doing?

    Edited to add:

    No sooner to I post asking if anyone else will explain their choice of nomination than I find Johnny_ultimate's already done it. D'oh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    Thanks a lot Fysh, up until your first post, I was happy to say that I had seen every film mentioned by people here and thus I would be able to give a really informed answer. But then you had to go and ruin it all by being ultra-alt on me. CAN'T I GET TO FEEL SMART EVEN ONCE?!?!?


    Anyway, now that I've gotten that out of my system, I'm fairly sure that the LOTR trilogy will be the movies that this decade is best remembered for in twenty or so years.
    My personal favourite thus far is the oft mentioned Eternal Sunshine, as it combines amazing quirkiness and some gorgeous cinematography (remember the shots of the frozen lake?) with the most realistic depiction of a relationship I have ever seen in a movie.
    Regarding Boinkmaster's point, I don't think this decade has produced as many classics as the 90s thus far, but the 80s wasn't a great decade for movies, in my opinion. Sure, there are plenty of classics, but not as many as you'd expect a decade to produce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Why are all the best films of the decade in English?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Nolanger wrote:
    Why are all the best films of the decade in English?

    Because we're all racist.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Because we're all racist.

    Damned straight! Bloody foreigners with their heathen lingo and original ideas about how to make filmic entertainment. I won't have it, I tell you, I WON'T!

    Heh.

    (Seriously, that joke is at least 10 times funnier coming from Karl "Prophet of Asian Cinema" Hungus than from anyone else...)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    There's no such thing.

    The beauty of film is that it's an artform, it can't be measured or calculated, because a good film can mean something different for the person who's viewing it, and it can affect people in different ways.
    Damnit! I thought I could pick an argument here, but then I realised it wasn't you but someone else who was advocating the opposite on the music board recently.

    Back to semi-comatose for me...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Hard to remember films so I checked through my imdb account vote history and the only two films this decade with a 10/10 rating are:
    Memento (2000) and
    Sin City (2005)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Nolanger wrote:
    Why are all the best films of the decade in English?
    Hey two of my 10/10 films are life is beautiful and bicyle thieves they just aren't this decade. I guess there haven't been any absolute classic foreing films this decade (Yet)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    City of God
    Infernal Affairs
    The Lives of Others
    Pan's Labyrinth
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
    Volver

    all rather good non-english speaking films :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Yes indeed it's an artform as Karl said yet people love discussing these things. Magazines love making lists because people love reading them, agreeing or moaning about them. See Q's list of the 10 most perfect songs ever for the most laughable recent example.
    Despite this over the years the things that stand out for me are the film events as it were. Again probably different for everybody but those films where suddenly a mate is booking tickets in Savoy 1 for you and 10 others mates you haven't seen in months to go see because of it's significance. The Phantom Menace was one such event (all be it a terribly dissappointing one) but taking this into consideration seeing Lord of the Rings brought to the screen in such grand fashion in Savoy 1 will remain with me long beyond the next 10 years. Better to mention that I think than compile a list of movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭Laserface


    Sin City & Mulholland Drive...probably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


    i'd go for as my favorites

    lord of the rings
    memento
    eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
    sideways
    lost in translation
    anchorman
    amelie..(hated the the very long enagement)
    incredibles/finding nemo
    kill bill 1&2
    the assination of richard nixon (very underrated)
    city of god
    bourne movies
    babel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Eamo71


    Little Miss Sunshine

    Spider-Man 2 the best blockbuster


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    The Lives of Others.
    Possibly the best (movie) experience I've had in the cinema in years. A really really excellent film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Eamo71 wrote:
    Little Miss Sunshine

    Spider-Man 2 the best blockbuster

    Spidey 2 best blockbuster please tell me you're joking :D

    It was complete pants and is easily beat by LOTR trilogy, Harry Potter films, Batman Begins, Star Wars Episode III, Gladiator etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭sme


    this thread seems to have broken down into two elements:

    1. people who are posting their favourite films of the past seven years and,

    2. people who are discussing what makes a good film and whether such a thing can exist for the collective or just for the individual.....

    probably says alot about the people posting here?

    not trying to get off topic or anything/{


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    1. People who are attempting to answer the question

    2. People who are muddying the waters by stating the obvious - that films are personal, and the answer to the question is going to opinion, not fact.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    legally blonde 2.


    /gets coat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭galactus


    Has to be LotR trilogy for me. Memento and one or two others have been mentioned but overall its been a very poor decade for movies, methinks.

    "Best TV show of the 00s" is a different question - which shows that writers have more latitude in that medium (or more likely the producers are more willing to take risks).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    The Two Towers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,066 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Has to be This Is England for me. Its has it all. Great acting, good direction, a stunning soundtrack and to top it all off that nostalgic feeling you get if you were born in the 80's.

    Requiem for a dream and Sunshine also get honorable mentions


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,677 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The Departed,
    28 days later
    and
    Unleashed, best english language Jet Li movie, awesome stuff.

    Best TV of the '00s?
    Battlestar Galactica, Heroes... Maybe
    But has to be Firefly, complete genius, packed more good storytelling into half a season than Startrek has done since DS9.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭ryanairzer


    legally blonde 2.


    /gets coat.

    Gay doggies FTW! :D

    I suspect the film of the noughties will come out in 2009.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    Alien Vs. Predator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭,8,1


    Anyone else think the standard of film the past decade has been utter shiite when compared to the 90s and 80s?

    Yep, I think so! :D

    Films like Spiderman, The Incredible Hulk, King Kong I find are utter trash. Formulaic and shallow, they get massive budgets, massive marketing and (most depressing of all) massive box office sales! A lot of energy has gone in the LoTR francise also - all that fantasy stuff just doesn't do it for me.

    9/11 did terrible things for the film industry. People are afraid to say anything of importance.

    A few standout films are:

    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    Vanilla Sky
    A Beautiful Mind


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    Crash-Thoughtfully explored the complexities of the race debate.
    Gladiator, Great blockbuster and haunting soundtrack.
    Bridget Jones' Diary-Great comedy. Never liked Hugh Grant before this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    for me sin city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭BOHSBOHS


    BATTLE ROYALE

    ...thats it


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