Solid video evidence of reptilians bush, clinton barbara bush

trentf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8iw-yuxQok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuDz0cSTKaA


then if you doubt that these things exist read this account of what a man saw and recounted after a near death experience

http://www.near-death.com/forum/nde/000/89.html read the part about the demons which these things are ..note he said they were reptile in form.


and how about this ancient egyptian symbols depicting reptilians and spaceships one looking very similiar to a helicopter

http://crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html


also linked to this is time travel and mind control as demonstrated in the montauk and philidelphia experiments which really did happen as accounted by al bielek who skipped forward in time and documents it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAG35ZPeLgk



please feel free to disprove all the information i have provided in this and my previous post when you gather and collate all the data yourself then you'll know this is for real and impossible to have all things pointing in one direction chances are millions to one of this happening.

MrJoeSoap

How is this 'solid' video evidence? It's a few awfully bogey YouTube video's overdubbed with stupidly creepy music and a series of the most mind-numbingly idiotic links I've seen posted on this site. I'm not quite sure the point you are trying to make here, that the past presidents and first ladies of the United States were in fact reptiles, or that they were aliens, or what?

I've seen some nonsense spouted on this site, and this board in particular, but this takes the absolute biscuit. I see nothing wrong with any of their eyes...

Maybe I'm one of them!

humanji

Hey, MrJoeSoap, don't knock the links, they're amazing. I've been won over, and so will anybody else who sees the page that uses Star Wars screenshots to prove that lizardmen exist

trentf

Maybe you are how should i know there are many in the world. And most people who are deeply linked to them are the ones most in denial.

Having said that if you go full screen mode on those videos and pause at certain moments in the bush is a reptilian video you will see his eye pupils change to reptilian slits change colour and even at one point the eye slits from right to left

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE


here ill point it out for you

first part

at second 00:34 to 00:35 left eye flashes from left to right and a noise is heard


01: 32 reptilian tongue in evidence and mouth movements not matching


2:23 eye out of sync in a vertical slit

and probably the strangest of all at point 01:49 strange movement of eye and mouth as if he is changing his structure completely.

now my friend since you were so quick to dispell this video go and have a look and put it on full screen mode then come back and explain to me what each of these things is. And furthermore if you think this video was faked in anyway go look up the original cnn
video feed and you'll see its the exact same.

GhostInTheRuins

I really don't know what you're seeing in the Hilliary Clinton video. If anything it proves that she has perfectly round pupils. The only time they change shape is when she moves her head around and the low quality clip blends the pixels to make it look vertical. If she wasn't moving around so much you wouldn't see anything.

Gordon

trentf wrote:

and probably the strangest of all at point 01:49 strange movement of eye and mouth as if he is changing his structure completely.

Hilarious!

His eyes are looking down and his jaw opened to the side! He's a lizard! I can explain that one - he simply opened his jaw and looked down. Or he tried to hide a yawn.

As for the rest of the lizard eyes - have a look for another thread on this forum concerning this exact same point. In my opinion - they are not lizard eyes but light reflecting off the eyeballs.

MrJoeSoap

Watched it all again there, on fullscreen, on a 40inch screen. Still think this 'theory' blows. First of all, even if I did have any sort of belief in it, I would not be so quick to confirm my suspicions on a YouTube video, which is notoriously poor quality. Secondly, I would want to see the original tape.

Thirdly, take a step back and think about what you are saying. I don't know if maybe you watch a lot of X-Files, or take a lot of drugs, or whatever. But... you are suggesting that George Bush Sr's eyes and tongue are reptilian in form. Have you ever met one of these reptilian people yourself? Have you seen a UFO?

trentf

light reflecting off an eyeball causes it to move left to right?? ok since you want the original feed here you go buddy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZWztBtw5o

trentf

yes i have seen a ufo what originally got me interested in this subject

and if you want overwhelming proof of the existance of these things go look up my other post

Gordon

trentf wrote:

light reflecting off an eyeball causes it to move left to right??

No, that would be the eye muscles that cause eyes to move left/right.

trentf

here you go you can look it up believe it if you like doesn't really concern me i have made the information available to those interested


People are starting to wake up its true. This has something to do with the changing frequency of the earths magnetic field and the apparent date of 2012 the maylan calender and the supposed date at which we will switch forms from the 3rd density of earths physical structures to a higher density dimension.

Theres people who have direct hand in dealing with these interdimesional beings whom come in physical and 4th density forms the later we don't know much about but from people with near death experiences who say we exist in this 3rd density with beings of other dimesions in a sort of matrix whereby we all exist in the same space but we can't see them because they are of a higher frequency vibration or lower one to us. People need to understand that these are not aliens reptilians or whatever you might describe them as but are interdimensional beings controlled by dark forces the opposite of the light spectrum.

In 1997 art bell a famous us radio host was hosting a program taking calls from people near area when a caller called him up to tell him he had some disturbing information to tell him. the following is an exact copy of the transcript.. Its available on audio on youtube here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3bld4lTG0


Hello Art? Art? Hi....I don't have a whole lot of time..um...I was a former employee of Area 51...I was let go on a medical discharge about a week ago...and...and...(starts to cry)...I kinda been running across the country...um...um....man....I don't know WHERE to start......they'll triangulate on this position really, really soon... (starting to break up and get more frantic--Art tells him to give us something quick>)...OK...um...um....What we're thinking of as Aliens ...they're EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL BEINGS...that an earlier precursor of the SPACE PROGRAM MADE CONTACT WITH...uh...they are NOT what they claim to be...uh...they have INFILTRATED a lot of aspects of the MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT particularily Area 51...uh...the DISASTERS that are coming...the GOVERNMENT knows about them....and there's a lot of SAFE AREAS in this WORLD THAT THEY COULD BEGIN MOVING THE POPULATION TO...N O W - Art.....but they are NOT doing anything about it... THEY WANT THE MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS - WIPED OUT SO THAT THE FEW THAT ARE LEFT WILL BE MORE EASILY CONTROLLABLE....(breaking up more, starting to cry...)...I started getting...." Silence - Art went off the air at that point.


david icke is not the only one to mention these reptilians and know about phil schneider claims to have actually killed 2 grey aliens in the famous dulce wars in the 1970s when he came across a top secret underground base housing thousands of them whilst working as a geologist for the us governement. His video can be viewed here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea...related&search

Phil claimed the new world order is in alliance with these extra dimensional alien beings called reptilians and many dumb(deep underground military bases) exist all over the usa housing these things and that denver international airport was one of the main places these things existed. This would explain the weird new world order imagery seen at denver airport here

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...nsindenver.htm


another piece of evidence is the new world orders connection to freemasons if you look at the us one dollar bill is the freemason logo on it the triangular shape with the all seeing eye apparently which is a reference to them being in control over us

http://www.theresistancemanifesto.co...ollar_bill.jpg and the logo 'new world order' in latin under it novus ordo seclorum

if you look at the freemason ireland website you will find the triangular logo on their page when put over the one dollar bill it spells out

the following The Pyramid represents the past. Note that the capstone of this pyramid is not in place, thus denoting an unfinished situation. This unfinished situation was planned to remain in effect until the Old World Order was destroyed and replaced with The New World Order.

* Annuit Coeptis - "Announcing The Birth"

* Novus Ordor Seclorum - "New World Order"

* Capstone - Eye of Horus [Theocracy of Egyptian Mysticism] = Eye of Satan or Lucifer


http://www.government-propaganda.com...ing_Eye_lg.jpg


theres also a man called william cooper whom claims whilst working for us naval intelligence he uncovered the secret agenda of the goverment in alliance with aliens where he explains kennedy was assinated because he was going to spill the beans on the aliens, the cia actually being involved in mind control programs on the general population and drug dealing being organised and run by the cia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7fShgRlG9g his video here.


If you think this is outlandish then look up a former m16 officer who has recently come out claiming it to be true and also the case

http://www.ciadrugs.com/

or the little heard about case of kevin ives and don henry 2 boys murdered in the 1980s when they stumbled apon a cia drug smuggling operation in progress they were told they were killed but their parents later found out the truth of what happened
their story can be found here

http://www.idfiles.com/ojvid.htm


now its about time you people woke up and stopped denying what there is so much evidence for yes evil exists in the world just as good does. And we need not fear these beings of evil because they generate hatred and fear via all sorts of actions such as the phony war on terror designed to create fear which reptilians feed off.

And finally if you want to search another source of information as proof of the reptilians look up www.neardeath.com which relates peoples experiences of having died and seen these extra dimesional beings following people around and feeding off their fear their addictions such as alcoholism, sexual cravings, drug addiction etc. Which leads to the conclusion that has been noted by many authors and experiencers of abductions that these things are not aliens but evil forces such as those listed in the bible. It is interesting how these beings live underground and in the bible the references to hell where of beings living underground, for those who hide underground have something to hide.

Just to end on a positive note because in the end of the day thats what its all about, David icke's theory i believe to be mostly correct about us living in a matrix world with beings of different frequency vibrations thus we cannot see them because they emit much higher or lower frequency vibrations but they are there. The reason his theories seem to be correct is because of the accounts of the near death experiencers. It is known that meditating can increase your ability to visit astral plans which we visit in our sleep. Increasing your frequency vibration increases the more you follow in the way of god and spread love. The less vibrational frequencies your bodies energy field emits the more you become attached to the physical denser world and your connection to the godhead is weakened.

MrJoeSoap

trentf wrote:

light reflecting off an eyeball causes it to move left to right?? ok since you want the original feed here you go buddy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZWztBtw5o

Well thats conclusive enough for me, I don't believe a word of it. Nice soundtrack though.

yes i have seen a ufo what originally got me interested in this subject

and if you want overwhelming proof of the existance of these things go look up my other post

Nothing I read on the internet will ever be 'overwhelming proof' of anything, least of all aliens. What part of the world were you in when you saw this UFO and if you happened to see them, what did the alien lifeforms resemble?

trentf

i can understand the fear some people want to believe so bad they live in a world they control that they would rather sweep it under the carpet or just outright deny it. It doesn't really matter wheither you do or not in the end of the day as long as you live your life to the fullest.

trentf

Nothing I read on the internet will ever be 'overwhelming proof' of anything, least of all aliens. What part of the world were you in when you saw this UFO and if you happened to see them, what did the alien lifeforms resemble?

not even this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPBBkE0jBc

lol like i said i don't particularly care wheither you do or you don't.

MrJoeSoap

trentf wrote:

i can understand the fear some people want to believe so bad they live in a world they control that they would rather sweep it under the carpet or just outright deny it. It doesn't really matter wheither you do or not in the end of the day as long as you live your life to the fullest.

Fair enough. Back to the real world with me so.

MrJoeSoap

trentf wrote:

Nothing I read on the internet will ever be 'overwhelming proof' of anything, least of all aliens. What part of the world were you in when you saw this UFO and if you happened to see them, what did the alien lifeforms resemble?

not even this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPBBkE0jBc

lol like i said i don't particularly care wheither you do or you don't.

Nope, especially not that.

trentf

thats ok most people go into angry denial at first then look up the information themselves and start to figure it out slowly or some just continue and live their lives as they normally did either way it makes no difference in the long term it essentially comes down to a battle between love and fear and good and evil.

MrJoeSoap

trentf wrote:

thats ok most people go into angry denial at first then look up the information themselves and start to figure it out slowly or some just continue and live their lives as they normally did either way it makes no difference in the long term it essentially comes down to a battle between love and fear and good and evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38N9QvsdzU

My favourite film.

trentf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OveaAEYhMQ&mode=related&search=

the montauk project for those interested. stewart swerdlows story very informative and interesting.

Doctor DooM

Some of the OPs friends spammed up After Hours recently... I wouldnt bother replying.

Gordon

trentf wrote:

i can understand the fear some people want to believe so bad they live in a world they control that they would rather sweep it under the carpet or just outright deny it. It doesn't really matter wheither you do or not in the end of the day as long as you live your life to the fullest.

I can understand the fear that some people believe in the fact that this world is not what they want and they think that there must be something more. It must be frightening for some people to believe that there is actually no more - this is it. Hence people would rather sweep real life under the carpet and create an alternate reality with aliens and lizards controlling everyone. But only they are sane and know the truth.

Don't worry trentf - you will "wake up" one day, don't worry my friend. And we will be there to guide you when that day comes.

humanji

trentf wrote:

Nothing I read on the internet will ever be 'overwhelming proof' of anything, least of all aliens. What part of the world were you in when you saw this UFO and if you happened to see them, what did the alien lifeforms resemble?

not even this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPBBkE0jBc

lol like i said i don't particularly care wheither you do or you don't.

Isn't that from that Ant & Dec film?

dade

SDooM wrote:

Some of the OPs friends spammed up After Hours recently... I wouldnt bother replying.

maybe it's the same person??

humanji

Maybe it's a lizardman trying to sound like a crazy man in an attempt to misdirect us!!!

trentf

It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not doesn't matter to me one bit, doesnt matter because it doesnt change the situation at all im just posting information for those that are interested. Anyone that wants to have a serious debate then feel free to and ill respond any questions.

trentf

I can understand the fear that some people believe in the fact that this world is not what they want and they think that there must be something more

Lol equally as funny as people believing the charade that is put on for them every day. Look at all the evidence research it yourself outright denial of so many facts is just not logical is it?

There is a huge movement in the usa right now who know the truth about the new world order their links to extra dimensional beings and also the realms of material out there documenting how the 911 attacks were set up and carried out.


Heres another video for you again ill keep throwing them up feel free to comment or ask questions to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeAK-q5Cok

trentf

Isn't that from that Ant & Dec film

yes it is provided by the a man in california who has the only existing footage of the roswell crash. It is at the end of the film in the credits. Theres more footage out there some of it such as the alien autopsy which is a fake unlike the above footage and the famous alien hands footage.

humanji

But how can you honestly take all of this in at face value when it's quite literally nonsense. There very well may be lizardmen running the world, but nothing you have posted shows any real evidence. The youtube links are a joke. They're too fuzzy and badly filmed to be taken seriously (which I assume is the point. Most of these never appeared before youtube), or there's the gems like Geroge Bush being a lizard which is just the camera angles.

Why do all truthers refuse to take into account any information that doesn't 100% agree with their position? I've seen it on so many sites where anyone who disagrees is either a "paid debunker":rolleyes: or are just stubburn and refusing to accept the truth, when in reality it's the truther who should open their eyes to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, they're being led on by someone who's either a nut, or taking the piss.

Are the governments involved in shady deals that benefit themselves and not the people? Of course.
Are the heads of governments in league with heads of major corporations and are trying to make themselves richer? Most assuredly.
Are they trying to keep down the ordinary man in order to keep their power? Of course they are. Everyone in power wants to keep it.
Are there Aliens? Considering the size of the Universe, it's almost a certainty.
Are they among us? Considering the size of the Universe, it's very unlikely.
Are there groups that control the world from behind the scenes? Yes, they are called "Rich People" and they've always had more sway than the rest of us. But that doesn't mean it's a secret illuminati style organisation plotting our downfall.
Are these "Rich People" really lizardmen who have somehow enslaved humanity, and control our every whim without us being aware of them, and somehow destroyed all "real" evidence, but somehow managed to leave a whole load of dodgy, grainy youtube videos that show them using their lizardmen powers in public but only in ways that can be confused with lighting angles, camera distortions and shaky camera operators? Seriously, of course not!

humanji

trentf wrote:

There is a huge movement in the usa right now who know the truth about the new world order their links to extra dimensional beings and also the realms of material out there documenting how the 911 attacks were set up and carried out.

There was a huge movement in Jonestown too, and that turned out OK, didn't it? The more I hear about this "movement", the more I think I should buy shares in purple shrouds and arsenic.

nice1franko

if you said they were monkeys I'd have think "yep, that makes sense alright. stoopid, they look like monkeys and they likes their bananas" but frickin LIZARDS!!!!!!!!!! LIZARDS??????????????????? get a grip man!

humanji

Not lizards, lizardMEN. Apparently the last syllabel makes it more believable!

Gordon

trentf wrote:

It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not doesn't matter to me one bit, doesnt matter because it doesnt change the situation at all im just posting information for those that are interested. Anyone that wants to have a serious debate then feel free to and ill respond any questions.

I'd like you to answer this question:

On this video you say that at 01:49 -

trentf wrote:

strangest of all at point 01:49 strange movement of eye and mouth as if he is changing his structure completely.

"The strangest of all", "changing his structure completely" you say.

My question to you is - why do you think that this is evidence of being a lizard as opposed to George Bush simply moving his jaw a bit and looking down. Or hiding a yawn.

Is everyone that moves their jaw to the side and looks down automatically actually a lizard?

My second question to you is - would you be able to provide video footage of yourself talking into the camera so that we can make sure that you are not a lizardman?

Thanks.

damo

trentf wrote:

It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not doesn't matter to me one bit, doesnt matter because it doesnt change the situation at all im just posting information for those that are interested. Anyone that wants to have a serious debate then feel free to and ill respond any questions.

Thats hilarious, you want to have a 'serious debate' about.....wait for it.....UNDERCOVER LIZARD MEN!!!!!

bwahahaha!

I think youre gonna need to find a couple of 6 year olds if you want a serious debate about such nonsense

trentf

Lizardman?lol funny terminology but apt i guess they are more a sinister force which we understand as demons i guess as mentioned in the bible.
They do exist in physical form and in a form from the 4th dimension a spiritual form i guess but they are far from spiritual in the sense we know it.

Heres some more information for you if your interested.


You should look up and watch a video on a man called phil schnieder a man who spilt the beans on whats really going on. He worked for the us goverment in the 1970s as a geologist blasting underground sites. Whilst he was blasting one of these underground sites the equipment they were using kept coming up broken. So he went down to investigate and stumbled apon an underground base full of grey aliens a firefight ensued in which he killed 2 grey aliens. 66 delta special forces were sent down and were all killed by the aliens. He started splilling the beans on what is really going on, the alien goverment connection and how these are interdimensional beings not aliens as we know them and how the goverment is covering it all up keeping the masses in ignorance through mundane everday activites and manufactured wars and threats. He had many lectures in the 1990's in the usa and was later found dead. Many attempts were made on his life to silence him and he always told his wife if she was ever told he commited suicide then it would be murder. He was found dead from a hose wrapped around his neck in 1995.

You can watch his video online on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c

also while your at it watch videos of 2 more men alex collier and a man called william cooper also killed under mysterious circumstances recently. Both have explained clearly whats going on in terms of the malevolent forces at work in the world and how they are manipulating every aspect of human existance.

MrJoeSoap

Stop giving us YouTool video's and make a decent point. You can find a link on the internet to back up nearly any argument you can come up with, but messageboards are for expressions of your thoughts and opinions.

trentf

Your not even watching these videos clearly go and watch them come back and research the information yourself. Then comment

Anyone with a logical thought process and some level of intelligence can figure out whats going on. If thats beyond you so be it don't bother responding. Im looking for intelligent debate here not schoolyard hissy fits.

Another man that might be of interest to you is a man called bob lazar. Bob lazar claimed to have worked at S4 a top secret research faility in groom lake otherwise known as area 51. Bob claims to have worked on back engineering alien spacecraft in the 1980's. He explains quite clearly in the video how they worked, what he worked on and how most technology we use today is back engineered technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvjVLP0CCY


another piece of technology kept from the public eye by the nwo is water powered cars. This technology exists and is workable however the oil companies and nwo want to keep humans reliant on oil thus they have stifled attempts to develop it en masse. To see this technology working and to get plans of how to build a working water powered engine yourself visit the following links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXZakmw0jEI&mode=related&search


for more information on how this actually works
visit http://www.panacea-bocaf.org

trentf

messageboards are for expressions of your thoughts and opinions

Messageboards are for anything you want them to be for including spreading documents, videos and expression of thoughts and opinions. If this information is too much for you then perhaps you shouldn't read it. Simple really.

Jesus Wept

trentf wrote:

Maybe you are how should i know there are many in the world. And most people who are deeply linked to them are the ones most in denial.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is reptilian.

You are a fúcking idiot. I'm an open minded person, but I can't even listen to your arguments when they are so ridiculously biased, you are deluded because you present opinion as 'fact', and make pre-cursor statements that anyone who disagrees with you is likely a reptilian.

I'm an open minded person, and you have put me against you from the get go.

Even if you had convincing evidence (and you don't), but even IF you did, your attitude would stand in the way of you gaining any support.

---

On topic,

why are they blinking so much, teh feckin reptile bástardssszz!!!

Do you have any clue about television, and the amount of lights that are shining in a person's face when they are on camera? There are lights everywhere, even on the camera itself, and they aren't your standard 80 Watt Solás bulbs.

humanji

Why are you just copying and pasting your posts from other threads? If you had real arguments, evidence then we'd happily listen to them. Regurgitating stuff that has been copied over and over isn't going to win anyone over.

MrJoeSoap

trentf wrote:

Another man that might be of interest to you

I somehow doubt that somehow. Here's a link that might interest you though.

trentf

if you put as much energy into doing the research yourselfs rather then directing your hatred against me then youd be doing yourselves a favour.

A lot of you just respond with insults 'your an idiot' 'you don't provide any arguments of your own' ' stop posting the youtube' links and so fourth, negative energy arguments.

Its not really hard to grasp the concept. Watch the video make up your own mind then comment not don't watch it make your mind up then comment. Then whats the point really. I don't care if you don't watch but its obvious most of you don't so why bother posting. I started this thread for debate not argument or fighting. If thats what you want your not going to get it back from me so get your cheap thrills some where else.

Fine if you think im an idiot im fine with that thats your opinion and you know the old saying opinions are like assholes everyone's got one. But really why i posted the material was as an intial debating point then we can move into debate the important word being debate not argument.

humanji

Well I apologise if I've insulted you, it's more the ideas that you're trying to get across that I have problems with.

Try and see this from our perspective. You have offered a theory that seems completly insane. The only evidence you provide are youtube links, mostly by people pushing their idea and who have no intentions of ever admitting that they may be wrong, and also some links to websites made by people with a similar agenda.

There is no real reason for us to even consider these claims as not one shred of even remotely believable evidence has been offered. If I show you a youtube clip of Lord Of The Rings, will you take it at my word that Hobbits exist?

trentf

Apology accepted. I agree the ideas are outlandish of course they are outlandish i think so too in fact i had the very same reaction most of the people here did too originally, but doesnt make them not true. In fact anyone who believes in a god should have no trouble believing it because they are all related to the bible, god the universe. Im perfectly fine with people not accepting it or
saying its too outlandish to be true thats fair enough point because at a certain point i would have said that myself. Everyone has
a right to their own beliefs and opinions. Nothing is set in stone.

But then again if you never seen or heard of an elephant for example and suddenly someone told you you would witness an elephant walking right before your eyes what would you think? You'd be in shock obviously. Its not everyday someone comes along and tells you the life you live the world you live in is just an illusion unless you've seen the matrix. Because thats what it is. But somehow people always tell me they had a feeling or ever get the feeling things revolve around you etc.

The theory seems completely insane but when researched from many different points it isn't and becomes more and more credible the more you research it. The denver airport links i sent on and the links to the us dollar bill the ancient symbols found in the egyptian cravings and the freemasons you would see there are making linkages to it but it is very subtle. Also look up the annunaki and the sumarian tablets and their linkage to the reptilian agenda, the real reason i believe for the iraq war and you'll start to see a pattern emerge of how this all links together and how it has everything to do with humanity and our very soul essence.

Most people on this board can't comprehend what i mean by reptilians they immeadiately think lizardmen because
thats what they immeadiately picture. Understand that they are more extra dimensional beings ie demons then aliens and
you'll have a better understanding of whats going on. They can come in physical and spirit form. If you read this you will get a better
idea of what i consider them to be. Now this has nothing to do with aliens but links in extrodinarily.

http://www.near-death.com/forum/nde/000/89.html


To understand their linkage to the ruling eilite look up the reptilian bloodline. This all links i think into the bible and has everything to do with our very existance. If you want me to explain it i can but you would be better to research it yourself and then come back and then we can debate then you'd be in a better position to debate with me if you want.

I guess the most important point to undestand about all this is you come full circle when you come to your own conclusion that
in the end of the day it makes no difference the most important thing is how we treat others. Perhaps im wrong on some of these things research it yourselfs and come back with your opinion of it interested to know your opinions.

Doctor DooM

This thread is pure spam. I'd ignore it and let it die.

trentf

thats fine ignore it if you wish nobody said you had to read it.

GhostInTheRuins

I've a couple of questions if you'll answer them for me. Forget about the illuminati/lizard shape shifters for a second.

In all the threads that have popped up someone mentions the year 2012, and you did too. What exactly do you think is going to happen at the end of 2012?

they are more a sinister force which we understand as demons i guess as mentioned in the bible

Can I take it that you're religious and take what the bible says as fact?

trentf

The maylan calendar date? I think thats what your referring too. To be honest no i wasn't very religious and have never been. It wasn't until i started researching this ufo phenomenom that i actually came full circle in realising yes there is a god but not in the traditional sense we know him rather a universal force which we are all part of. We are in essence spirit forms trapped in the body physical 3rd dimension. A lot of the bible has been manipulated to serve their or evil mens needs ie the worship of a worship figure etc rules that seem to be wrong which you know yourself in your very essence is wrong but then later recanted by NDE experiencers whom were told that it had been manipulated. Most of the story of jesus is true apparently and we can always call for help when we need it. I think the way to look at it is from all of what i gathered is we are spirit forms all connected to a giant matrix i guess god and that we all have god in us so instead of looking outside yourself for strength look to within and what your heart knows best. Now thats a very simplified explanation but the best i can do without writing an eassy on it.

As for the 2012 some have surmised that this is the real possible end date for the end of the world. The calendar was an ancient calendar used by the mayans and is thought to be thousands of years old much older then any known existing ones found. current world events can be accurately predicted by using the calendar since this calendar is a repeating pattern of creation intent and effects. I remember reading about a man who has used a piece of software which is entirely based on the mayan calendar to proove that this 2012 date is not the end of the world but a massive shift in the frequency of the earths magnetic field causing our physical bodies to shift to a higher dimension of existance ie a Spiritual form(if you could call it that and which we do anyway when we die)and we are to move out of the limitations of the physical form. He did this by using the calendar to map our frequency changes in the past and had a graph showing massive spikes and dips in earths magnetic field. The biggest one was on the 2012 date for future predictive analysis. Some people suggest all people will go through the proccess of the switching of forms others suggest that the switching of forms will only cause certain people to move on to the next level ie those with very high frequency vibrations while the others will remain here on earth and finish out their physical lives to join the spiritual at the end of their lives (ie those with lower frequency vibrations)

In order to do this our bodies must vibrate at higher frequencies which can only happen through actions of love and selfesslness.

Some seem to think of it as the end of the world but it really is according to many a shift in the level of consciousness of humanity from individual physcial form to a more spiritual enlightened form. Apparently the earth is in itself a spirtual form living and existing and
it will go through the process and all inhabitants on it also. Theres reams of material on this a lot of it you have to decipher for yourself and come to conclusions based on other sources too. Thats the thing about all of this it all links up.

Hope that somewhat helped.

GhostInTheRuins

trentf wrote:

I remember reading about a man who has used a piece of software which is entirely based on the mayan calendar to proove that this 2012 date is not the end of the world but a massive shift in the frequency of the earths magnetic field causing our physical bodies to shift to a higher dimension of existance ie a Spiritual form(if you could call it that) and we are to move out of the limitations of the physical form.................In order to do this our bodies must vibrate at higher frequencies which can only happen through actions of love and selfesslness.

So, basically you're saying that we all die (physically), are soul (?) is released but only if we lived good lives?. I don't get how this is related to the illuminati. Surely these guys are smart and know that this is going to happen to them too, so basically all their years of planning to gain control is for nothing? Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm just trying to get my head around what you guys believe.

trentf

Bascially in a nutshell yes. The reptilian illumnati are influenced and controlled by satan and yes satan exists as does god. He knows
he can never win against god and knows hes going to lose but because of who it is or what it is will try to take as many of gods
creations with him as he can.

They cannot defeat god because god is the creator of all life. And no the reptialians aren't very smart they are technologically way
more advanced then us but we are spiritually so much more advanced then them and thats all that really matters. They crave our negative feelings and emotions so its important not to feed them if you get what im saying. They cannot go against our free will if we give them our will they can control us thats why they try so hard to manipulate us with physical things ie you give up your life for addictions such as drugs, alcohol, sex etc then they have you where they want you under control. A free spirit thinking open and loving is like kryptonite to them. That explains the royals love for pomp and pagentry and subserviance to them thats a big hit for the reptilians control over you they can never take it from you you have to willingly give it to them for them to control you.

We all have god in us and are born with good intentions but through reptilian controlled media, food crime whatever you have we become corrupted and loose our link to the godhead from which we all came. The demonic controlled reptilians bascially demons try to influence man and lead him on the path to doom because reptilians will never evolve to higher dimensions which only spiritually evolved beings do.

People with drug addictions, sexual obsessions, lust, greed all are controlled by reptilians because thats how they kept us trapped. Think about it people go around their everyday lives concerned with themselves how can i make myself better what can i do for me etc when thats not what its about its about love and selflessness.

On the soul question i can only awnser from what i have experienced and know. Most nde's recount that hell is your own personal hell things you never get over like drug addiction alcohol addiction, sex lust etc things you never get over. When you die your spirit goes to the astral plain( something we can visit in our dreams) and we can get trapped in an earthbound state following people around in a vain attempt to recanter these physical urges we never got over. We can't move on unless we learn to rid ourselves of these physcial needs because the physical isnt important. It was metioned in many of these cases that the best way to get rid of these urges was to do it when on earth so you don't get trapped on the astral plan with these negative beings. These earthbound spirits is what these reptilian beings truely are imo. But they also exist in physical form in the form of aliens, reptilians what we know them as in our limited understanding. Their spirit forms follow humans around and pounce on their weaknesses Like when a guy drinks too much or takes too much drugs and people mention that guys changed, hes's not himself u know because he really has.

What the nde's were told is we need to get off our reliance on these physical trappings to evolve. When we die there are many different dimensional levels and we go into the one that fits us best based on how we lived our lifes. We are sorted according to how we lived on earth and placed with groupings of similar beings. They say our own souls judge us based on the life we lead and we go through a life review.

I guess its important to remember we can always call to help from jesus which explains whenever ur in trouble you call for help and you usually get it i know some of you may have experienced this then thought woah then just shugged it off as nothing.

GhostInTheRuins

Ok, and aliens/ufos are controlled by satan too with the same agenda as the reptilians?

trentf

i think its important to get over the concept of splitting these entities into seperate things. They are evil beings and evil forces at work in the world and they all come under the control of evil simple as whether it be satan reptilians they are all the same thing and are up to no good. Yes they all serve the same purpose. Its the concept of evil manipulating man to do the wrong thing in their 4th density form and they exist in physcial form carrying out abductions on humans killing them carrying out weird experiment on them such as those terrifying things vats of human body parts, animal human hybrids, other weird creatures,humans used a food source for their soul essence as well as flesh recounted by security personel who worked in nightmare lab in dulce underground facility in the 1970's. Some of the guys recounted seeing thousands and thousands of rows of hanging human bodies on lower levels. This was what the dulce wars were about. Bob lizar, william cooper and phil schneider reference it in their lectures. When the humans found out what was going on there was a revolt of sorts and many were killed. Apparently the massive levels of abductions each year 1 million in the usa alone are carried out by them with the governments knowledge. I also remember a guy who was spilling the beans an irish journalist on the gardai's involvement and knowledge of this, ritual sacrifice to a certain level. He also was documenting how he found out some irish politicans were involved in it too and this was way before i came across any of this material so i just assumed it was unrelated. The document is on the internet if you look it up.

Remember the reference to hell being underground in the bible well these things according to phil schneider, matt cooper, alex collier, bob lazar, cathy obrien and many countless others claim to have actually seen and engaged with live in deep underground bases. Apparently bigfoot is linked to them and is a primitive form of life taken from another planet to here to do the heavy lifting duties of the greys. I remember seeing a program on discovery recently about how bigfoot ufo's and MIB's are all seen in the same place at the same time. that whole area of it is a little grey for me to be honest excuse the pun.

To be honest when you form a more balanced view on it like not totally extreme in the love way or not totally extreme in the fear hatred way thats the way to go. Like being in denial about either of them causes the frequency vibrations of your own essence to lower.