South Africa vs Samoa

Easy_81

SAMOA Starting: 1 Justin Va'a 2 Mahonri Schwalger 3 Census Johnston 4 Joe Tekori 5 Kane Thompson 6 Daniel Leo 7 Semo Sititi (c) 8 Henry Tuilagi 9 Junior Polu 10 Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu 11 Alesana Tuilagi 12 Jerry Meafou 13 Gavin Williams
14 Lome Fa'atau 15 David Lemi

Bench 16 Tanielu Fuga 17 Kas Lealamanua 18 Alfie Vaeluaga
19 Justin Purdie 20 Elvis Seveali'I 21 Loki Crichton 22 Brian Lima

SOUTH AFRICA Starting 1. Os du Randt 2. John Smit (c) 3. CJ van der Linde 4. Bakkies Botha 5. Victor Matfield 6. Schalk Burger 7. Juan Smith 8. Danie Rossouw 9. Fourie du Preez 10. Butch James 11. Bryan Habana
12. Jean de Villiers 13. Jaque Fourie 14. JP Pietersen 15. Percy Montgomery

Bench 16. Bismarck du Plessis 17. Brendon Botha 18. Johannes Muller 19. Wickus van Heerden 20. Enrico Januarie 21. Andre Pretorius 22. Francois Steyn


Does Samoa have any chance of upstaging the Boks?
South Africa have a fantastic side out for this one....

yogidc26

No way they will walk all over them I think south africa will be in the final

Easy_81

South Africa all the way hey??

They have the players to do it. I think they will top the group for sure..

MrJoeSoap

South Africa by 30 points or thereabouts. Surprised Steyn isn't starting this one.

Supercell

South Africa to win this by a fairly high margin even though I do rate the Somoains. Just think the boks are so good Somoa will look a lot worse than they probably are.

mikeruurds

Samoa are riddled with injury - four of their top players will be taking no further pasrt in the tournament as a result of getting hurt in training and warm-up games.

The Samoan management have openly stated that they are going to hold a little back in the game against SA so that they can ensure that they have as much in the reserve tank as possible to unleash on England. They see England as their chance to get through the pool stages.

I believe Francois Steyn is being used as an impact substitution in this game. He can play any one of four positions, but is not the favoured starter for any of those positions. He still needs to prove himself on the big stage. I hope that he gets brought in as a sub for JP Pietersen as early as possible. JP hasn't really proved that he is worthy of the first choice as wing. Too much politics involved in that choice unfortunately. Fransie will get a chance and will cement his place for the later stages in the tournament *holds thumbs*.

It should be a cracker, but I predict a 30+ points victory margin for the Bokke.

BOHSBOHS

well pietersens there cos
1.he was the top try scorer in the super 14 this year, hes worth a go
(14 tries in 15 games i think? ) habana was 2nd btw ,
2.ndungane is injured so thats leaves him and habana as sp. wingers

mikeruurds

Agreed BOHSBOHS, but JP has looked pretty suspect in defence whenever he's had a green jersey on. I'd love to see the lad make himself a permanent fixture in that position.

Endurance Man

I hate working :mad: .
We are fielding a very strong team, over 600 caps between the players, don't think they will have a problem. Im sure england will be watching intently, we need to scare them today.

Stev_o

Habanna vs Tualiagi that should be fairly interesting!

mikeruurds

3 points on the board for the Bokke!!!!!!!!

Edit: massive tackles in this one

JP Pietersen knocks on in the backline when the boks are on attack.

besty

This could kick off. 2 highly physical sides chomping at the bit.

mikeruurds

There have been a few punches thrown already. I fear that the fighting off the ball is going to slow down the game and, as a result, the point scoring.

beglee

that was DIRTY by Burger, basically swinging a punch/high-tackle at the Samoan no.9's head whilst he was in the air trying to catch the ball! Like a double penalty offence and really dangerous with ur man being in the air. Lucky not to be binned IMO

MrJoeSoap

beglee wrote:

that was DIRTY by Burger, basically swinging a punch/high-tackle at the Fijian no.9's head whilst he was in the air trying to catch the ball! Like a double penalty offence and really dangerous with ur man being in the air. Lucky not to be binned IMO

I agree, but its Samoa that are playing, not Fij...

zAbbo

I think the commentary on Setanta sensationalised the Burger tackle a little, on the replay he is looking at ball, but poorly judged.

Good physical contest so far.

zAbbo

Nice try, the Samoans are under the posts.

mikeruurds

Try by Samoa... great run.

zAbbo

Ref needs to get a grip here, Maybe binning Burger earlier would have set the tone a bit better.

I don't get these 'warnings', surely players are warned before the game by the Ref.

beglee

MrJoeSoap wrote:

I agree, but its Samoa that are playing, not Fij...

Whoops, schoolboy error

mikeruurds

What a trie by Habana!

Attractive Nun

Montgomerie try. That should be that now.

Inquitus

England will struggle against Samoa.

yogidc26

mikeruurds wrote:

What a trie by Habana!

I think he is going to be the man of the world cup. some player

Stev_o

Eh try? Wtf this ref should be sacked from the IRB

Jackz

Another terrible decision from the Ref gives SA a try.

Crash

Who's reffing?

cgf

http://en.rugbyworldcup.com/home/fixtures/round=100/match=10078/officials.html

Stev_o

Ah no wonder. SH ref's are the worst in the world. He ll end up getting a gold watch for this match

Crash

weird, he's never really popped up on my radar much before...

razorblunt

Paul Honiss has been known as a bad ref for ages now, the commentators on Setanta are pretty harsh on SA, accused De Villiers of dropping a knee, when he wasn't anywhere near his him and they just said nothing when Montgomery got slammed through the boards after getting his try

Supercell

I reckon its going to be a cricket score when SA play England looking at this

Mushy

What was that try just after half-time disallowed for? Think the Samoans are been hard done by a bit. That lad should have been binned aswell for the tackle in the air. Intentional or not, its in the air, its a high tackle. Still dont think Samoa will progress from group, but they'll do well enough.

mikeruurds

Mushy wrote:

What was that try just after half-time disallowed for? Think the Samoans are been hard done by a bit. That lad should have been binned aswell for the tackle in the air. Intentional or not, its in the air, its a high tackle. Still dont think Samoa will progress from group, but they'll do well enough.

Don't you think that Samoa could take England?

mikeruurds

Hat trick Habanananana!!!

Easy_81

Samoa will cause England some problems for sure....

jdivision

Honiss should be suspended. Two tries by SA (should have been half-time before Monty's try) that shouldn't have been allowed and one disallowed try. ignored burger tackle and numerous other blatant favourtism calls. As for Monty ending up in hoarding, it was momentum rather than anything.

beglee

mikeruurds wrote:

Don't you think that Samoa could take England?

Theyll definitely give them a good run for their money anyway, and itll obviously be a bruising affair for the English.

mikeruurds

jdivision wrote:

Honiss should be suspended. Two tries by SA (should have been half-time before Monty's try) that shouldn't have been allowed and one disallowed try. ignored burger tackle and numerous other blatant favourtism calls. As for Monty ending up in hoarding, it was momentum rather than anything.

Regardless, SA have deserved their 4 points for the win and their bonus point. I'm quite clearly a fan

beglee

Habana with try no.4, he's a little bit good aint he

razorblunt

jdivision wrote:

Honiss should be suspended. Two tries by SA (should have been half-time before Monty's try) that shouldn't have been allowed and one disallowed try. ignored burger tackle and numerous other blatant favourtism calls. As for Monty ending up in hoarding, it was momentum rather than anything.

Nope sorry not momentum, Monty had the ball down and was hit 3 feet afterwards and ended up going sideways too the board, even Lima when he came on went headfirst into a tackle and it was high, that was equally as disgraceful. Lima was the worst for wear after it might be concussion, sad way to finish your career if it is but he deserved it.

mikeruurds

beglee wrote:

Habana with try no.4, he's a little bit good aint he

Only a little

jdivision

He got a little push. It's not the same as being clotheslined by somebody in midair. Lima tackle ridiculous alright.

Agent Smith

59-7


Great start for SA,
(anyone else sick of UTV Comentry yet?)

mikeruurds

Great tough game. Samoa as usual can be proud of their performance. They played with great pride and showed a lot of heart, but were simply outclassed by the boks.

I'm hoping that the boks can make it to the dream final with the All Blacks. I drew NZ in the office pool, so either the boks win or I get €50. Either way I win

Marshy

jdivision wrote:

Two tries by SA (should have been half-time before Monty's try) that shouldn't have been allowed and one disallowed try. ignored burger tackle and numerous other blatant favourtism calls. As for Monty ending up in hoarding, it was momentum rather than anything.

No way, if anything that should have been a penalty try just before half time. The samoans repeatedly collapsed the scrum and SA deservedly got there in the end.

All in all I thought the ref had an ok game and allowed it to be a physical contest and was lenient with both sides on late hits.

As for monty, it was a clear push that made him end up in the hoarding.

Marshy

agent smith wrote:

59-7

Sounds like a SA score from the Cricket World Cup

mikeruurds

Marshy wrote:

Sounds like a SA score from the Cricket World Cup

C'mon Marshy... that would've been 259/7

PeteJones

jdivision - bit jealous are you??

Burger did not tackle the guy in mid-air, he went for the ball but poor judgement on his side with his arm looks like it was serious. Looked worse than what is was, the Samoan kept on playing.

Monty's push momentum?? Are you for real dude. You're an idiot, it was a blatant push.

All tries were good tries. Habana place it on the ground before it was kicked away.

Reason why the Samoans try were disallowed is because he was binding from the side and then went for the try, that is offside, check IRB rules if you don't know.

I do agree though that Honiss was not great but he was bad towards both teams.

MrJoeSoap

PeteJones wrote:

You're an idiot

Jeez man, relax!

RuggieBear

petejones banned for personal abuse


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