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  • 08-09-2007 6:21pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭


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    I was told to get the F*** off the bus about 2 miles from my house. Even though the bus route went right past my house.

    The bus driver said he was hungry and pulled up outside the chipper, so everyone had to walk home in the rain.

    I love how the dublin bus drivers put their customers first


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    What route was that on?
    lucozader wrote:
    I love how the dublin bus drivers put their customers first
    I remember last summer some day at 6pm they got rid of all the 15/a/b/c buses and put them directly across the other side of the Liffey bringing people up to Marlay park at €10 return. There was mayhem as all the people who rely on the 15 services to south dublin had to find alternative arrangments. I got home at 9pm from work that day.

    Thanks dublin bus, rot in hell.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    lucozader wrote:
    I was told to get the F*** off the bus about 2 miles from my house. Even though the bus route went right past my house.

    The bus driver said he was hungry and pulled up outside the chipper, so everyone had to walk home in the rain.

    I love how the dublin bus drivers put their customers first


    Used to happen me years ago heading back to tallaght on the last bus, it would go past spawell and staight up the bypass instead of its normal route and i would normally be the last person on the bus. But after a while the driver got to know me and used to drop me to my door every night when he was heading back into town and we got free food aswell most nights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    lucozader wrote:
    I was told to get the F*** off the bus about 2 miles from my house. Even though the bus route went right past my house.

    The bus driver said he was hungry and pulled up outside the chipper, so everyone had to walk home in the rain.

    I love how the dublin bus drivers put their customers first

    Name and shame. What route was that? Get straight onto Head Offie on Monday morning. That is well out of order. Some drivers are extremely ill-mannered ass-holes who don't undrstand the concept of customer service. Did everyone leave without a fuss?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,327 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Report that driver. If you don't, then put up and shut up next time it happens.

    I have always found Dublin Bus very quick to act on complaints.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    lucozader wrote:
    I was told to get the F*** off the bus about 2 miles from my house. Even though the bus route went right past my house.

    The bus driver said he was hungry and pulled up outside the chipper, so everyone had to walk home in the rain.

    I love how the dublin bus drivers put their customers first


    Does anybody believe this....?because I for one don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Dub13 wrote:
    Does anybody believe this....?because I for one don't.
    Nor me!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,327 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    If it happened, I don't believe someone would not have immediately complained to Dublin Bus.

    Whinging on boards.ie is unlikely to have an effect, if anything did indeed happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Dub13 wrote:
    Does anybody believe this....?because I for one don't.

    Silly me :o

    Pretty far-fetched. I must have been still pissed off at the Ireland game and ranting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I'm going to be positive about Dublin Bus. :)
    They are without a doubt the best drivers I see in Dublin.
    They actually indicate when pulling in and pulling out of stops

    Compare that to taxi drivers who stop anywhere and throw on the hazards.

    As a moped driver I often filter and you can always see the Dublin Bus drivers watching their wing mirrors. I doubt most drivers use their wings mirrors, especially their left ones.

    And if you ever check that overheard in Dublin site, you'll see stories of drivers with razor sharp wit.

    Oh, and I don't believe the OP either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    One sunny Friday evening not so long ago I got on a 16 in Dame Street, to go to Drumcondra.

    As the bus got to Parnell Square it pulled in, and just stopped.

    For about twenty minutes the driver just sat there, so I went down to ask what the craic was. It was hot, the bus was full and people were getting pissed off.

    Anyway, I asked the driver, real polite, if he knew what was going on.

    He said he was waiting for another driver to arrive, to continue the journey?:confused:

    I asked was it another bus he was waiting on, that this had broken down, he said no, another driver. I asked him why he hadn't told the passengers there was going to be a twenty minute delay, and he said "I don't have to tell you, just wait on the radio". I was shocked. Just then a 16A went past, and I said to him that if he had have told us then some of us could have gotten on the 16A. Me anyway, I was only going as far as fagan's in Drumcondra. he just looked at me.

    I got off the bus, and about ten minutes later another 16 came along. The next timetabled one. I got on and asked the driver if he's wait for a few passangers from the stopped bus could get on. There was standing room, and three or four people had just come from upstairs to get on the bus.

    He said no, then started ranting at me "Do you think it's my fault the other bus stopped or something" :eek: I said no, I didn't think it was his fault at all. I hadn't long to go so I remained standing. He kept staring at me in the mirror as he was driving then said "Don't start again with your lip, or I'll throw you off this bus" :eek: WTF?

    Anyway, we got to Drumcondra, and as I was getting off I called him a prick, the doors closed and he was pulling off, next thing he stopped again, opened the doors and said "I'll remember your face pal, I'll see you next time".

    Arsehole.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,664 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Nor me!

    tis bull


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    DesF wrote:
    One sunny Friday evening not so long ago I got on a 16 in Dame Street, to go to Drumcondra.

    As the bus got to Parnell Square it pulled in, and just stopped.

    For about twenty minutes the driver just sat there, so I went down to ask what the craic was. It was hot, the bus was full and people were getting pissed off.

    Anyway, I asked the driver, real polite, if he knew what was going on.

    He said he was waiting for another driver to arrive, to continue the journey?:confused:

    I asked was it another bus he was waiting on, that this had broken down, he said no, another driver. I asked him why he hadn't told the passengers there was going to be a twenty minute delay, and he said "I don't have to tell you, just wait on the radio". I was shocked. Just then a 16A went past, and I said to him that if he had have told us then some of us could have gotten on the 16A. Me anyway, I was only going as far as fagan's in Drumcondra. he just looked at me.

    I got off the bus, and about ten minutes later another 16 came along. The next timetabled one. I got on and asked the driver if he's wait for a few passangers from the stopped bus could get on. There was standing room, and three or four people had just come from upstairs to get on the bus.

    He said no, then started ranting at me "Do you think it's my fault the other bus stopped or something" :eek: I said no, I didn't think it was his fault at all. I hadn't long to go so I remained standing. He kept staring at me in the mirror as he was driving then said "Don't start again with your lip, or I'll throw you off this bus" :eek: WTF?

    Anyway, we got to Drumcondra, and as I was getting off I called him a prick, the doors closed and he was pulling off, next thing he stopped again, opened the doors and said "I'll remember your face pal, I'll see you next time".

    Arsehole.

    Yeah, I've had an arsehole like that. Make a complaint and it's a threat to call the law and throw you off the bus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 Alsatian_Cousin


    DesF wrote:
    As the bus got to Parnell Square it pulled in, and just stopped.
    For about twenty minutes the driver just sat there

    That's not unusual, always happens. Why can't they have a depot outside the city at the end of the route where drivers can change shifts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    DesF wrote:
    ..... as I was getting off I called him a prick.....

    ......Arsehole.
    If this event did occur, why did you drag yourself down to the driver's level by calling him a 'prick'?

    What did that achieve apart from reducing your credibility to zero? :rolleyes: All you achieved was to convince the bus driver that he was correct to say that he would have you thrown off the bus.

    Would it not have been more appropriate to take note of the details and make an official complaint? :confused:
    DesF wrote:
    I asked the driver, real polite......
    Somehow I find it difficult to believe that someone who calls a bus driver a 'prick' and refers to him as an 'arsehole' could be 'real polite'! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Too many f***ing horror stories over the years. The latest one was on one of the bendy buses one morning. Either the driver didnt turn on the suspension on the rear carriage or it was broken. Every bump we went over we were sent flying up in the air. My wallet actually fell out of my coat it was so bad. I didnt realise I'd lost the wallet until i was in work. So I rang the depot and they said the driver had found the wallet and turned it in. So i haul meself out to the depot after work only to be told it was sent into the lost and found in town. :mad:. had to go in there the next morning and convince two heads (who were such caricatures of jobsworths that they belonged on Father ted) that it was actually my wallet and then pay 2 euros to get it back. :mad:

    Still a lot of dublin bus drivers are decent skins. Its the f***ing jobsworths and malignant p**ks that know they'll never get sacked that give them a bad reputation.

    The driver changeover thing in Parnell square happens on the 19A all the time, 9 times out of 10 the driver wont bother letting the passengers know that they're going to be sitting in their holes for 10 or 15 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    I remember years ago some little **** head opened the emergency exit at the back of the bus from outside, I walked over to close it and the bus driver insisted I had done it and told me to get off.

    I refused, so he stopped on O Connell St and the police told me to get off.

    I was completely humiliated and to make matters more so, the complete power freaks started their bullying with me on the street, in a way only good pigs can.

    Oh and of course the camera on the bus wasn't on that day, the day I was travelling from one job to another!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    What's the story with the wait? I've been told that on those bus routes that start deep in the north side and finished far off in the southside that last so long the drivers have to swap around half way through because they're not allowed to drive for more than an hour or something.

    It's completely unacceptable that the bus driver that's supposed to relieve the previous driver isn't on time (or the bus doesn't arrive when it's supposed to).

    One of the general flaws of the timetables is that they give you a guide to when the bus will be in each particular area but they never seem to take into account that at 11.30pm on a sunday the bus is going to be much quicker than the 8am on a monday.

    I've been on a bus a few times and breaks been lobbed through the windows shattering them (that's hardly dublin buses fault). I've also been on the nitelink a couple of times where the driver has taken the executive decision to avoid taking the detour to my stop (that's stopped more recently). I got on a bus once with a carry out of beer and the driver wouldn't let me go up the stairs. I was kinda undecided about whether to just sit down and not argue or tell him to go **** himself but he gave me the impression he'd just sit at the stop if I tried to go up stairs.

    In fairness the majoirty of the drivers on my bus route are sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Bambi wrote:
    Either the driver didnt turn on the suspension on the rear carriage or it was broken. Every bump we went over we were sent flying up in the air
    The driver doesn't 'turn on' the suspension. It should be on a default setting. He can drop the suspension on one side for ease of entry and it should rise automatically when the doors close or he can raise the front of the bus above the normal level to clear a steep ramp (e.g. to enter a garage). The driver may not have been aware of the problem at the rear as his portion of the articulated unit would be independent of the 'trailer'. Did you inform him?
    Bambi wrote:
    and convince two heads (who were such caricatures of jobsworths that they belonged on Father ted) that it was actually my wallet and then pay 2 euros to get it back. :mad:
    Presumably they had to be sure it was your wallet. If they had given it out to someone else you would probably say that they should be more thorough in their enquries! :)

    PS - it costs €6 in Dublin Airport to retrieve one's own lost property!
    Bambi wrote:
    9 times out of 10 the driver wont bother letting the passengers know that they're going to be sitting in their holes for 10 or 15 minutes.
    I'm not familiar with the internal workings of Dublin Bus but I presume that the driver doesn't know exactly when his relief will arrive. If he continued with the journey he may be forced to go into a cycle which may last a couple of hours for which he may not get paid. I agree totally that it is not a very 'passenger friendly' system but that is a management matter, not a driver's one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    Dub13 wrote:
    Does anybody believe this....?because I for one don't.


    No. Complete and utter arse, internet urban myth type bollix of the highest calibre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭lucozader


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    I actually shortened the story, so people wouldn't have to sift through too much info

    it it TOTALLY TRUE

    The 69X (city speed, busiest bus of the day) was 1 hour late, then Dublin bus laid on a single decker to replace it

    A single decker was not enough for a fraction of the people queing for 1 hour

    I had to stand for about an hour on the bus cos there were no seats

    Then about the bus driver decided to pull in for fish and chips and we (say 25 people) had to walk miles home in the rain

    In summary

    1. Bus was 1 hour late
    2. Dublin Bus laid on single decker (way too small)
    3. Had to stand for 1 hour on the bus (feet were killing me after standing at the bus stop for 1 hour already)
    4 Bus driver decided to get dinner and told us to f*** off (yes he used the f word)
    5 Had to walk home 2 miles in the rain

    and that was just the journey from town !

    I hate it when I hear a Dublin Bus PR guy on the radio saying how great they are. I worked for a summer in Germany and the bus drivers were great, if german bus drivers behaved like Dublin Bus drivers they would be sacked.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,327 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    So...did you report it?
    If not, why not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    Half the time the drivers of the 15s and 65s decide that Fleet St is the new terminus instead of Eden Quay as it says on the front of the bus and on the ticket.
    I presume this is because they want to head back to Ringsend garage more quickly to go on their break. Never mind the 10 or 15 people who have to walk an extra 7 or 8 minutes to get to their destination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    If this event did occur,
    What do you mean 'if'?

    Why the bleedin' hell would I come on to Boards and make up a story like that? FFS.
    why did you drag yourself down to the driver's level by calling him a 'prick'?
    Because he was one. And I wasn't arsed complaining to anyone, I was on my way to a match, and it just popped into my head. Sorry if I have offended your morals.
    What did that achieve apart from reducing your credibility to zero? :rolleyes:
    WTF has 'credibility' got to do with it? Credibility in who's eyes? Yours? I hardly care about if some stranger on the internet finds me credible. Oh, and thanks for the rolleyes. Really cool.
    All you achieved was to convince the bus driver that he was correct to say that he would have you thrown off the bus.
    Fúck him.
    Would it not have been more appropriate to take note of the details and make an official complaint? :confused:.
    Probably yeah, but tbh, I had forgotten about the incident until I saw this thread.
    Somehow I find it difficult to believe that someone who calls a bus driver a 'prick' and refers to him as an 'arsehole' could be 'real polite'! :rolleyes:
    Go on and read my post again, and this time read it properly. I was polite to the driver who had stopped in Parnell Square, it was the idiot who started ranting at me on the next bus for no reason that I called a prick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I'm not familiar with the internal workings of Dublin Bus
    Really? Well you're acting like a manager of Dublin Bus in this thread, no one can say a bad word about them ffs.

    Anyway.
    but I presume that the driver doesn't know exactly when his relief will arrive.
    The relief should be there to meet the bus. A half hour before it's due to arrive, this way, if the bus is delayed, the new driver is there, if the bus gets there quicker than it should have, the new driver is there.

    It's too easy for Dublin Bus to implement though. That or the Unions are involved in this. And I hate the unions, nothing but trouble.
    I agree totally that it is not a very 'passenger friendly' system but that is a management matter, not a driver's one.
    Well hang on, the drivers are the public face of the company. A company which has no 'visible' customer service process, and a very hard system to navigate if one does happen to contact them. Being sent from billy to jack to reclaim a lost wallet? Spare me the nicey-niceness about Dublin Bus, it's a shambolic bus service at the best of times, and a downright disgrace the rest of the time.

    Although, the new busses are nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    On one hand, the bus drivers do a horrible job and where I live have to put up with junkies and general yobs smoking cigarettes and grass/hash, drinking etc. I commend them for it. Alot of the drivers are friendly decent people and very helpful to lost tourists, old people, women with buggies etc. But there is a miniority of the old school who think f*ck them, I can't be sacked no matter what and if my supervisor challenges me after a complaint from the public then I'll call in the Union rep and cause a fuss.

    On some routes the drivers just don't bother their arse turning up. We are two stops from a terminus and the bus often times just doesn't arrive. Why? God only knows? I complained to DB and they wrote a lovely letter back. The service has improved but its always a bit of a lottery whether or not the bus will turn up. Personally, I think until DB starts to see that they are providing a service to the public via the tax we pay then we will never get the service that you get on the continent. It would require changing a mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    lucozader wrote:
    I hate it when I hear a Dublin Bus PR guy on the radio saying how great they are. I worked for a summer in Germany and the bus drivers were great, if german bus drivers behaved like Dublin Bus drivers they would be sacked.


    Nail on head there as to whats wrong with Dublin bus.

    Here wishbone ash, you dont work for dublin bus, yet if anyone criticises them you're jumping into the shining armour with a three castle logo on it to rush to dublin buses defence. i take your assertion that you're not affiliated to dublin bus with the same scepticism that you view dublin bus horror stories with:)

    Incidentally, dublin bus have improved a fair bit over the last few years IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Love2love


    I was on the bus a couple of weeks back and there was already a women with a double buggy on it so I folded up my own and carried my son on. Anyway a few stops later a wheelchair wants to get on so the bus driver threw the woman with the double buggy off..... Now that is not right.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Love2love wrote:
    I was on the bus a couple of weeks back and there was already a women with a double buggy on it so I folded up my own and carried my son on. Anyway a few stops later a wheelchair wants to get on so the bus driver threw the woman with the double buggy off..... Now that is not right.


    Its my understanding that its a wheelchair space and the wheelchair has priority.It would be a pain but at the end of the day the two kids can be taken out of the pram,the person in the wheelchair does not have this option.

    They are after all called wheelchair accessible buses not pram accessible buses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Dub13 wrote:
    Its my understanding that its a wheelchair space and the wheelchair has priority
    Yes, that used to be the case but I think it has changed recently. See this thread for more information/discussion on that topic.
    Love2love wrote:
    so the bus driver threw the woman with the double buggy off
    Did she refuse to fold the buggy? If so, then the driver had no choice under previous directives AFAIK.

    PS - He hardly "threw her off". I presume she was asked to leave and get an alternative bus.
    Bambi wrote:
    Here wishbone ash, you dont work for dublin bus, yet if anyone criticises them you're jumping into the shining armour with a three castle logo on it to rush to dublin buses defence. i take your assertion that you're not affiliated to dublin bus with the same scepticism that you view dublin bus horror stories with
    I drive a bus on a part time basis for a private operator. I have an interest in public transport and transport in general. What's wrong with being 'Devil's Advocate' as none of the regular DB drivers have contributed to the thread yet leaving it a bit one-sided. (They normally post in the Commuting and Transport Forum ;)). If I worked for DB I would probably be able to provide more comprehensive answers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Dub13 wrote:
    Its my understanding that its a wheelchair space and the wheelchair has priority.It would be a pain but at the end of the day the two kids can be taken out of the pram,the person in the wheelchair does not have this option..

    It was stated that it was a double buggy with two children and most of them can not be folded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    Wheelchairs should have preference over buggies.

    In finland a parent with a buggy travels for free (as does child) so they can enter by the middle doors on bus and trams. I think this is a great system, especially for women with a buggy and a bawling toddler rooting through her purse for cents. Did it not occur to her to have this money already? Why don't women like this buy bus cards?

    anyway, they should travel for free to save everyone the hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    a friend of mine moved to dublin recently, she was headin into the city centre on a bus and in passing asked the driver did he know what no. bus goes to ballyfermot cause she needed to head out there to which he replied "get a ****ing map"!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Love2love


    Wheelchairs should have preference over buggies.

    In finland a parent with a buggy travels for free (as does child) so they can enter by the middle doors on bus and trams. I think this is a great system, especially for women with a buggy and a bawling toddler rooting through her purse for cents. Did it not occur to her to have this money already? Why don't women like this buy bus cards?

    anyway, they should travel for free to save everyone the hassle.

    She had paid and was on the bus for 4 or 5 stops before being asked to get off. She couldn't fold the buggy as she was on her own with 2 newborns. She had already paid the fare, not the wheelchair user and was not refunded.
    The space where in question, specifically has a sign stating that it is for either a wheelchair user OR a pram.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭lucozader


    I was in America for 3 months and I just arrived back at Dublin Airport. It was a sunday.

    I had a backpack and it was obvious I had been out of the country. I could of been a tourist.

    This was back in the days when you paid the driver and he gave you change.

    So I handed the driver a ten pound note. It was all the Irish money I had.

    The bus driver yelled at me to **** OFF.

    So I had to get off the bus, get some change and wait for an hour for the next bus.

    I thought wow, tourists must get a real friendly introduction to Ireland with that kind of attitude.

    Remember this was the old days when the driver had a till and paid you your change. It's not like now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    lucozader wrote:
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    I was told to get the F*** off the bus about 2 miles from my house. Even though the bus route went right past my house.

    The bus driver said he was hungry and pulled up outside the chipper, so everyone had to walk home in the rain.

    I love how the dublin bus drivers put their customers first

    If thats true then complain to Dublin Bus not on Boards.ie! There is no point in complaing on a website, if you want to make a change complain to the people who can do something!


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Thaedydal wrote:
    It was stated that it was a double buggy with two children and most of them can not be folded.


    I have 3 young kids and have had 2 or 3 double buggy's all of them folded,in fact the new one is great it folds better than the single one we have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Love2love wrote:
    She had paid and was on the bus for 4 or 5 stops before being asked to get off. She couldn't fold the buggy as she was on her own with 2 newborns. She had already paid the fare, not the wheelchair user and was not refunded.
    The space where in question, specifically has a sign stating that it is for either a wheelchair user OR a pram.

    From www.dublinbus.ie/

    ON THE BUS

    Every accessible bus has one priority space. This space is allocated for a wheelchair user and may also be used for a buggy. Only one wheelchair or buggy may occupy this space. Brakes should be applied on your wheelchair.
    When a buggy is occupying this space, the child will be left in the buggy and the buggy's brakes should be applied. The parent or guardian should either sit or stand with the buggy. In the event of any difficulty please inform the driver.
    Once the space has been occupied, a customer who wishes to board the bus with a further buggy must remove their child from their buggy and stow the buggy away safely.
    If you are visually impaired or are unsure that the bus is the correct one, ask the driver and he will be pleased to assist you with your inquiries
    Guide dogs are allowed on all buses. Please note guide dogs should not be petted by anyone other than the owner.




    My interpretation of the above is that the wheelchair has priority over a buggy.

    (It could be argued that most wheelchair-bound passengers don't have a choice about being in a wheelchair. Most parents decide to have children.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Love2love


    From www.dublinbus.ie/

    ON THE BUS

    Every accessible bus has one priority space. This space is allocated for a wheelchair user and may also be used for a buggy. Only one wheelchair or buggy may occupy this space. Brakes should be applied on your wheelchair.
    When a buggy is occupying this space, the child will be left in the buggy and the buggy's brakes should be applied. The parent or guardian should either sit or stand with the buggy. In the event of any difficulty please inform the driver.
    Once the space has been occupied, a customer who wishes to board the bus with a further buggy must remove their child from their buggy and stow the buggy away safely.
    If you are visually impaired or are unsure that the bus is the correct one, ask the driver and he will be pleased to assist you with your inquiries
    Guide dogs are allowed on all buses. Please note guide dogs should not be petted by anyone other than the owner.




    My interpretation of the above is that the wheelchair has priority over a buggy.

    (It could be argued that most wheelchair-bound passengers don't have a choice about being in a wheelchair. Most parents decide to have children.)

    There is nothing in the above text that states that a wheelchair user specifically has priority, (this is only an interpretation), especially over someone who has already paid the fare. Surely the woman has the right to the journey that she has already paid?
    And if one can argue choosing kids over the choice to be wheelchair bound, surely one could argue that it doesn't specifically say wheelchair user have priority???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Love2love wrote:
    There is nothing in the above text that states that a wheelchair user has priority, (this is only you interpretation), especially over someone who has already paid the fare. Surely the woman has the right to the journey that she has already paid?
    WheelchairSpaceSign.jpg

    (Picture courtesy of Victor!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Love2love


    WheelchairSpaceSign.jpg

    (Picture courtesy of Victor!)

    Ok I stand corrected but this woman had already paid the fare so she should be able to continue her journey, no? After all, if there was already a wheelchair on the bus, he would have to refuse the other, no?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Love2love wrote:
    Ok I stand corrected but this woman had already paid the fare so she should be able to continue her journey, no? After all, if there was already a wheelchair on the bus, he would have to refuse the other, no?
    I presume she would have been able to get another bus without further charge. Isn't there some sort of special ticket for that?

    Sometimes passengers get on the wrong bus and only realise later. I've seen drivers radio control and ask that they contact a driver/s on the correct route/bus and request that they 'look out' for the dropped passengers and not to charge them anything further. I've also seen drivers flag down buses going in the opposite direction to transfer passengers who have discovered that thay are going in the wrong direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Love2love


    I presume she would have been able to get another bus without further charge. Isn't there some sort of special ticket for that?

    Sometimes passengers get on the wrong bus and only realise later. I've seen drivers radio control and ask that they contact a driver/s on the correct route/bus and request that they 'look out' for the dropped passengers and not to charge them anything further. I've also seen drivers flag down buses going in the opposite direction to transfer passengers who have discovered that thay are going in the wrong direction.

    Eh no she wasn't because she told the driver that she was had to let 2 buses pass because there was already buggies on them and that she was waiting over an hour but he wouldn't give in so she told she was putting a complaint in about him so he told her to get the **** off the bus. If this was so easy to get another bus free of charge, why could the driver tell the WC user that there is another bus on the way and radio the next one and tell him not to allow any buggy users on? And one could alway argue that the woman paid a fare (even if she didnt for the children) and the WC user doesn't.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Love2love wrote:
    And one could alway argue that the woman paid a fare (even if she didnt for the children) and the WC user doesn't.

    One could also argue that the Department of Social Welfare pay a huge check to CIE for the Disability/OAP passes.So both paid a fare,but its silly to argue about who paid or who did not pay.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,664 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    ok not to be awkward BUT, what if there is no buggy on the bus but its full anyway? Ive never seen or heard of a driver bootin anyone off to let a wheelchair on?

    In fact ive seen the driver (and luas driver too!) sayin "sorry we're full" and not let them on when the bus was full.

    Either way, what this thread highlights is that people arent complaining. Dublin Bus take all complaints very seriously (unlike irish rail) and anyone who didnt report any of their stories on this thread has me flabbergasted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I actually thought this thread was gonna be about other passengers and not DB drivers!!!

    Very little against DB drivers (especially compared to fuking taxi drivers-high %age of kunts).

    I've seen DB drivers attacked, stop to let punters off for a puke and then wait for them to get back on again, put up with all sorts of shyte on the Nitelink, and one DB driver who regularly goes upstairs on the Nitelink to wake customers up so they don't miss their stop.

    I pretty much think they're a sound bunch especially compared to the scum using the buses who think it's obligatory to smoke (anything and everything), deal drugs, talk very loud on their phone about getting their hole the night before, and piss on the floor halfway into town.

    Worst routes (I've been on):77 and 78A.

    Best DB story:Nitelink home one night and two blokes beside me arguing over whether their (female) mate's mother fuked off with the milkman or postman. Halfway home, their mate wakes up, pukes on himself and goes back asleep. The lads then take out their phones and start snapping their mate covered in his own puke. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Zebra3 wrote:
    Worst routes (I've been on):77 and 78A.
    Yeah, I've heard they are bad alright, never been on one though.

    The worst route I've been on is the 27. Full of scum at all hours of the day and night. The drivers don't give a toss.

    Oh, the 17A is bad too, if it decides to turn up that is. Sometimes I wait on the Oscar Traynor Rd heading to Ballymun for over an hour for one to come, and they are scheduled every twenty minutes or half hour.

    And the 127 is the most unreliable service in the city. One day it came down past Grafton Street, so I ran to get it, but it never stopped at the stop it was meant to stop at. It pulled out into the traffic to pass the other busses at the stop, and there were only about ten or twelve passangers on it. My sister was at the stop at the time, waiting. Idiot driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,055 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    DesF wrote:
    And the 127 is the most unreliable service in the city. One day it came down past Grafton Street, so I ran to get it, but it never stopped at the stop it was meant to stop at. It pulled out into the traffic to pass the other busses at the stop, and there were only about ten or twelve passangers on it. My sister was at the stop at the time, waiting. Idiot driver.
    Did she make a complaint? There may have been a valid reason for the driver not to stop. Sometimes, for operational reasons, drivers are instructed via radio by the controller, to pass certain stops. If you or your sister had made an official complaint any such operational reasons would be made known to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭jebuz


    What route was that on?

    I remember last summer some day at 6pm they got rid of all the 15/a/b/c buses and put them directly across the other side of the Liffey bringing people up to Marlay park at €10 return. There was mayhem as all the people who rely on the 15 services to south dublin had to find alternative arrangments. I got home at 9pm from work that day.

    Thanks dublin bus, rot in hell.

    That is actually unbelievable, ...regular fare paying customers have to find alternative routes home, while the concert goers pay 10 euro to marley park on a dublin bus!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    DesF wrote:
    The worst route I've been on is the 27. Full of scum at all hours of the day and night. The drivers don't give a toss.

    Oh, the 17A is bad too, if it decides to turn up that is. Sometimes I wait on the Oscar Traynor Rd heading to Ballymun for over an hour for one to come, and they are scheduled every twenty minutes or half hour.

    Keep the garages number on your mobile and if the buses don't show ring them up and see what the story is.

    I had one controller get on the radio to find out where the driver was, only to be told by the driver that he had just gone past our stop. I said he hadnt unless he was driving the special invisible bus and the controller said he could only go on what the driver tells him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Did she make a complaint? There may have been a valid reason for the driver not to stop. Sometimes, for operational reasons, drivers are instructed via radio by the controller, to pass certain stops. If you or your sister had made an official complaint any such operational reasons would be made known to her.

    Coincidence, this one. Same bus route...127. GF used to get on somewhere on south of river and I would meet her on it at Amiens Street. I see bus, extend arm and driver pulls out to overtake another stopped bus and keeps going. Girlfriend complains to driver whop shrugs hid shoulders and ignores her and she has to get off at next stop to meet me.


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