Car for sale on ebay.ie: Clocked or typo?

JHMEG

This car was bought by an ebay user who used to be known as jasonskerries:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130139168811&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=003
It had 76,000 miles on the clock according to the advert (and therefore slightly overdue a service).

This car, which looks the same, is for sale by a guy called Jason in Skerries:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180150271765&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=008
It has 67,000 miles advertised, and co-incidentally has just be serviced. For some reason the plates are blanked out.

An honest typo mixing up 6 & 7 (altho the same typo is made more than once:eek: ), or clocked?

EDIT: It's also for sale on everyone's favourite:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=762987

b0bsquish

considering that he's using the same pic, I think we can assume its the same bloke? not a bad way to make almost 5 grand. Prob a typo thou as its 76 down to 67? clocking back 9,000 miles would hardly be worth it?

crosstownk

b0bsquish wrote:

Prob a typo thou as its 76 down to 67? clocking back 9,000 miles would hardly be worth it?

I'd have to agree. Such a minor haircut hardly seems worth it.

JHMEG

The fact that the same "typo" has been made in several places is some co-incidence do ye not think?

crosstownk

Maybe the original 76,000 was the incorrect mileage....................?

markymac

Why don't you ask the seller a question and find out?

Marky

maidhc

Not worth buying from those guys who bring stuff in from the UK for a profit anyway. For the most part they give dodgy used car salesmen a bad name.

ballooba

10000 (Paid) + 2100 (VRT) = 12100.

3900 profit. Not bad.

bazz26

ballooba wrote:

10000 (Paid) + 2100 (VRT) = 12100.

3900 profit. Not bad.

Only if someone is silly enough over here to pay that price for it though.

Churchy

Perhaps the reason for such a small movement in mileage is the last service in the history was at 63k.
Cant take it back further without throwing out the history.

pinkstateside

I am the infamous jasonskerries aka delboyjason aka qualityexleasecars

I have to comment, just have to.

One of the other commenters contacted me about this and was actually liablous about it, inferring I clocked the car.

I didnt, and am amused by your comments and analysis. I feel I must explain myself to all you interested parties and put you out of your misery....

Regarding the typo made. It was genuine. I originally placed the ad before I received the car from the UK. I put the ad on carzone first with the mileage at 67000, as that was I genuinely thought it was at.
I then got the car and brought it straight to Des Darcy Honda in Swords and had it serviced and checked on the European Honda service system to ensure everything was cochure, which it was, the car has a 100000 mile warranty etc. I then put the ad on ebay and mistakinly put the mileage at 67000 when in fact it is actually 76000 with a fully stamped up book from Honda. This car was never clocked, and as soon as mr liable called me a clocker I changed the ad to what it should have been.

Tut tut tut I hear you all saying. ah well, nothing bogey here, its a good one.

Amazed by your figures though. What you guys haven't factored in to them is the cost of transporting the car from its old home to Holyhead (about 300), the cost of the ferry (over and back about 300), The cost of a service (about 200), the cost of and bits it needed, (badges, dipstick, diagnostic reset (about 200), The cost of advertising (about 150 so far), the cost of a valet (about 100) the cost of new plates when it is registered (about 40), the cost of sitting on it for anything from 1 month to 6 months (which is normal), while the car is dropping like a stone in value, this could cost anything from 1000 to 3000 depending on how quick it sells ,(already I have dropped it by 1200), the ability to negotiate and haggle the price down with a potential buyer, but most importantly the cost of financing it, storing it in your drive, listening to the missus all day...when will that thing be gone, move it and cut the grass, the neighbours must think you are a drug dealer with that Uk reg in the garden, blah de blah....suddenly, maybe the small profit that I hope to make will be worth it, what do you think?

randomer

With all those expences I am surprised you didn't mention anything about the tax due on your income/profits?

yop

My heart bleeds, why don't you edit the ads to update the correct mileage?
These ads are all editable. Bit of misleading advertising?

So why did you bother if you are going to make "a small profit", bit of poor business there is it not for the effort involved?

Out of interest, what is the new Irish Reg and why don't you take pictures with the correct reg on it as people who see this will be put off by the UK reg

fletch

Yeh I don't understand why you haven't edited the ads?

pinkstateside

In answer to your further questions, the ads have been changed (carzone is experiencing issues though and for the last week and you cannot access the sell section, however, if anyone calls me I clearly point out the typo), the car is still Uk registered as I decided not to keep it(wife prefers her rover) and by registering it, it can take anything up to 6 weeks before the VRo send out the Irish Reg cert, plus it would be a Dublin reg, thereby alienating any country brothers out there that would prefer the car to be on their county plates (cannot sell it untill that comes), plus they only do that after you have taxed it (extra cost).

Regarding tax. The revenue permit you to register, drive, use and sell 2 cars a year before you are obliged to pay tax.

unkel

Thanks for the explanation, pinkstateside

Chevy RV

Regarding tax. The revenue permit you to register, drive, use and sell 2 cars a year before you are obliged to pay tax.

Where are the details of this "allowance" available from the revenue or it's website or is this just a wild guess ?

Churchy

pinkstateside wrote:

In answer to your further questions, the ads have been changed (carzone is experiencing issues though and for the last week and you cannot access the sell section, .

I have an ad on carzone.ie and just edited it.
Only took a minute - surprisingly fast for carzone.

yop

If the car was updated today on Carzone, which is states at the bottom of the ad, then why did you not change the reg?

You can email them or would you prefer us to do that, just to let them know that they are advertising a car with the wrong mileage?

Since you have not paid the VRT you would want to update Ebay also, at is states "VRT Paid"; Also the mileage is still incorrect. You don't want anyone getting the wrong impression

It BeeMee

pinkstateside wrote:

Regarding tax. The revenue permit you to register, drive, use and sell 2 cars a year before you are obliged to pay tax.

So how many can you buy and sell if you don't register them?

THE PRICE INDICATED HERE WILL BE THE FULL PRICE VRT PAID, FULLY REGISTERED IN IRELAND IN THE NEW OWNERS NAME AND IN THEIR COUNTY PLATES, IE, DUBLIN THE CAR WILL BE A 05D 12345...

Terrontress

pinkstateside wrote:

I am the infamous jasonskerries aka delboyjason aka qualityexleasecars

I have to comment, just have to.

One of the other commenters contacted me about this and was actually liablous about it, inferring I clocked the car.

I didnt, and am amused by your comments and analysis. I feel I must explain myself to all you interested parties and put you out of your misery....

Regarding the typo made. It was genuine. I originally placed the ad before I received the car from the UK. I put the ad on carzone first with the mileage at 67000, as that was I genuinely thought it was at.
I then got the car and brought it straight to Des Darcy Honda in Swords and had it serviced and checked on the European Honda service system to ensure everything was cochure, which it was, the car has a 100000 mile warranty etc. I then put the ad on ebay and mistakinly put the mileage at 67000 when in fact it is actually 76000 with a fully stamped up book from Honda. This car was never clocked, and as soon as mr liable called me a clocker I changed the ad to what it should have been.

Tut tut tut I hear you all saying. ah well, nothing bogey here, its a good one.

Amazed by your figures though. What you guys haven't factored in to them is the cost of transporting the car from its old home to Holyhead (about 300), the cost of the ferry (over and back about 300), The cost of a service (about 200), the cost of and bits it needed, (badges, dipstick, diagnostic reset (about 200), The cost of advertising (about 150 so far), the cost of a valet (about 100) the cost of new plates when it is registered (about 40), the cost of sitting on it for anything from 1 month to 6 months (which is normal), while the car is dropping like a stone in value, this could cost anything from 1000 to 3000 depending on how quick it sells ,(already I have dropped it by 1200), the ability to negotiate and haggle the price down with a potential buyer, but most importantly the cost of financing it, storing it in your drive, listening to the missus all day...when will that thing be gone, move it and cut the grass, the neighbours must think you are a drug dealer with that Uk reg in the garden, blah de blah....suddenly, maybe the small profit that I hope to make will be worth it, what do you think?

I have never read worse spelling.

You think people are being liablous, given that the car is cochure?

Perhaps you should spend your meagre profit on some adult literacy classes.

Furthermore, by law, are you required to register the car at the VRO within one working day?

ballooba

Regarding the profit margin I posted up, I knew at the time It didn't account for costs. I was being lazy. Still there is quite a decent margin there.

If your costs are as you say they are then you are after wasting a lot of money. 600 for transport? It's max 300 using a professional transport company. (There's some of the free advice you'll get if you stick around here.)

yop

Well feck me, another typo, want to get that fixed mate

http://www.buyandsell.ie/browse.php?quicksearch=HONDA+CIVIC+Hybrid&textopt=all&ofr_wan=ofr_wan&priv_trade=priv_trade&area=0&s=0&g=0&price1=&price2=&daysonline=0&bSearch=Search

Chevy RV

ballooba wrote:

Regarding the profit margin I posted up, I knew at the time It didn't account for costs. I was being lazy. Still there is quite a decent margin there.

If your costs are as you say they are then you are after wasting a lot of money. 600 for transport? It's max 300 using a professional transport company. (There's some of the free advice you'll get if you stick around here.)

Can you give me the details of the transport company that will ship the car for €300 ?

Terrontress

ballooba wrote:

Regarding the profit margin I posted up, I knew at the time It didn't account for costs. I was being lazy. Still there is quite a decent margin there.

If your costs are as you say they are then you are after wasting a lot of money. 600 for transport? It's max 300 using a professional transport company. (There's some of the free advice you'll get if you stick around here.)

Yeah and I got a set of numberplates made up in Swords last week for €20. That's half of what you're paying. Not too far from you either.

yop

Any chance that you could take a picture of the mileage on that car? Just to show us that the mileage has not been tampered with?

skibum

Chevy RV wrote:

Can you give me the details of the transport company that will ship the car for €300 ?

Some info on this thread:http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055127500

MercMad

Okay look it IS possibnle that this is a genuine mistake, I dont think the car was/is clocked. I believe that the seller put the lowerer mileage on the add intentionally to gain interest but that it would be obvious to any callers that there had been a mistake and the seller could drop his price accordingly to close the deal.

I have seen this before, its cheeky, but it happens !

Fair play to the OP for spotting it though !

TheBigLebowski

Terrontress wrote:

I have never read worse spelling.

You think people are being liablous, given that the car is cochure?

Perhaps you should spend your meagre profit on some adult literacy classes.

Furthermore, by law, are you required to register the car at the VRO within one working day?

I hardly think the literacy of the OP has anything to do with this. Maybe you should go to adult debating classes if you think that's any way to win an argument. In any case, I didn't think the spelling was all that bad, a few mistakes here and there but certainly legible.
I also think that the OP has done a more than adequate job of explaining the situation and all the would be detectives should stick to the day jobs.
The 'holier than thou' attitude of some on here would make you sick.
So what if he wants to make a few quid by importing and selling a few cars. I'm sure most of you do things in your daily lives to make a few quid, like go to work.
Whether or not the OP pays tax is a matter for the revenue commissioners to investigate.

fletch

yop wrote:

Well feck me, another typo, want to get that fixed mate

http://www.buyandsell.ie/browse.php?quicksearch=HONDA+CIVIC+Hybrid&textopt=all&ofr_wan=ofr_wan&priv_trade=priv_trade&area=0&s=0&g=0&price1=&price2=&daysonline=0&bSearch=Search

lol pinkstateside are you seriously trying to say that you made a typo on this ad too? Looks to me as if you reduced the mileage slightly to encourage views.

JHMEG

pinkstateside wrote:

I decided not to keep it (the wife prefers her rover)

But surely with an ebay name like qualityexleasecars you were intending on selling it all along?

pinkstateside wrote:

I originally placed the ad before I received the car from the UK. I put the ad on carzone first with the mileage at 67000, as that was I genuinely thought it was at

??? The original auction which you won says: 76K MILES

Since the car was just serviced a few days before this thread, is it fair to say that the stamp in the book says 76,000, or is there a typo there too?

yop

I see Carzone is now updated, 1 typo corrected.

Terrontress

TheBigLebowski wrote:

I hardly think the literacy of the OP has anything to do with this. Maybe you should go to adult debating classes if you think that's any way to win an argument. In any case, I didn't think the spelling was all that bad, a few mistakes here and there but certainly legible.
I also think that the OP has done a more than adequate job of explaining the situation and all the would be detectives should stick to the day jobs.
The 'holier than thou' attitude of some on here would make you sick.
So what if he wants to make a few quid by importing and selling a few cars. I'm sure most of you do things in your daily lives to make a few quid, like go to work.
Whether or not the OP pays tax is a matter for the revenue commissioners to investigate.

He's the one accusing people of libel (or should that be liable?) when all evidence would suggest that he is deliberately trying to mislead those who he is attempting to sell the car to and the people on this board.

ringleader

If you want to update your ad on BuyandSell as well, you can ask to do it on our LiveChat Support right now.

\o/

yop

ringleader wrote:

If you want to update your ad on BuyandSell as well, you can ask to do it on our LiveChat Support right now.

\o/

Now that service for ya. I take it yer site is not down or slow updating, not like the Carzone site

r3nu4l

MercMad wrote:

Okay look it IS possibnle that this is a genuine mistake, I dont think the car was/is clocked. I believe that the seller put the lowerer mileage on the add intentionally to gain interest but that it would be obvious to any callers that there had been a mistake and the seller could drop his price accordingly to close the deal.

I have seen this before, its cheeky, but it happens !

Fair play to the OP for spotting it though !

You call it cheeky but is it actually illegal? Cleverly done either way although I despise the practice.