Big Dilemma!

Cheeky_gal

Ok I need to know the answer to this asap before breakfast tomorrow...haha no i'm serious...

Cornflakes or porridge?

I can't stand the taste of porridge but I will force myself to eat it if it means it's a more healthier/lowfat choice...but I love cornflakes with some warm milk but apparently cornflakes are not "healthy" due to the level of GI!?!

Can someone help me out here!

Cravez

Cheeky_gal wrote:

Ok I need to know the answer to this asap before breakfast tomorrow...haha no i'm serious...

Cornflakes or porridge?

I can't stand the taste of porridge but I will force myself to eat it if it means it's a more healthier/lowfat choice...but I love cornflakes with some warm milk but apparently cornflakes are not "healthy" due to the level of GI!?!

Can someone help me out here!

Porridge

If you find it harder to eat porridge why dont you add something to it? Like Natural Organic Yoghurt(somthing along the Glenisk Range)? or Even Add a small bit of honey to it to make it taste nicer? Even Fruit?

GI Means Glycemic index which is the rate in which your body breaks down Carbohydrates and affects your blood sugar levels. Anything HIGH in GI means that Carbohydrates will be broken down faster therefore causing a rapid rise in blood sugar levels and making you crave more food. So anything LOW in GI means that Carbohydrates will be broken down slowly and steadily and keep your Blood Sugar levels even so you wont crave food soon after.

Therefore if you eat a bowl of cornflakes in the morning you are more than likely going to want more food shortly after. While if you eat porridge it should keep you ticking over for much longer(and its better for you )

Pugsley

I dont like the taste of porridge without heaps of sugar so I just go 2 steps down and go for Weetabix, its yummy even without sugar and keeps you full for a good while, 3 in the morning keeps me easily full until my next meal, however if you like shredded wheat thats even better.

crotalus667

I like to blend it with some egg whites and cinnamon or strawberries ,it makes great pancakes

Hanley

crotalus667 wrote:

I like to blend it with some egg whites and cinnamon or strawberries ,it makes great pancakes

Sounds nice...

I know GI is important, but what if you can subdue that urge to eat soon after eating a high GI food? Does that make it more "ok". Like if someone was able to control themselves to the extent that despite being hungry they could eat the correct porition size and macro breakdown in their next meal, then would it be "ok" to have a high GI food for breakfast.

Just for the sake of clarity, I'm sure most people will realise I'm not talking about doing this myself, because to be honest I can get away without it! It's just something I'm curious about.

crotalus667

Hanley wrote:

Sounds nice...

Yes it is , to save time I make a big one and finish it off under the grill like you would an omlet ,Occasionally I add cottage cheese to the mix , the basic mixture is great you just whack in what ever flavour you want (raspberries are in season now:p ) and there’s breakfast (to be honest it tastes good any time of the day:D )

Hanley wrote:

I know GI is important, but what if you can subdue that urge to eat soon after eating a high GI food? Does that make it more "ok". Like if someone was able to control themselves to the extent that despite being hungry they could eat the correct porition size and macro breakdown in their next meal, then would it be "ok" to have a high GI food for breakfast.

Just for the sake of clarity, I'm sure most people will realise I'm not talking about doing this myself, because to be honest I can get away without it! It's just something I'm curious about.

I think it’s more to do with maintaining insulin sensitivity than anything else but I could be wrong (given my past record I could be very wrong:rolleyes: )

Cheeky_gal

Hanley wrote:

Sounds nice...

I know GI is important, but what if you can subdue that urge to eat soon after eating a high GI food? Does that make it more "ok". Like if someone was able to control themselves to the extent that despite being hungry they could eat the correct porition size and macro breakdown in their next meal, then would it be "ok" to have a high GI food for breakfast.

Just for the sake of clarity, I'm sure most people will realise I'm not talking about doing this myself, because to be honest I can get away without it! It's just something I'm curious about.

Haha was gonna ask the exam same thing...

Cheers for the replies people...looks like I'm gonna go in n make some porridge now! eugh!

Cheeky_gal

Eugh! I just couldn't do it! I had made the porridge n eugh the smell from it even...then I took one bite n dumped the lot and went for the cornflakes! Omg what a dilemma! So is it ok if I stick to the cornflakes if I'm able to resist eating til lunch!? Or will I be fcuking up my insulin flow!?

g'em

Cheeky_gal wrote:

Eugh! I just couldn't do it! I had made the porridge n eugh the smell from it even...then I took one bite n dumped the lot and went for the cornflakes! Omg what a dilemma! So is it ok if I stick to the cornflakes if I'm able to resist eating til lunch!? Or will I be fcuking up my insulin flow!?

There's lots of ways to eat porridge- I love mine with yoghurt and blueberries for example. If you don't like it fair enough, but cornflakes are still crap.

What about no-added sugar muesli (like Hi8 from Flahavans) or All-Bran or Bran Flakes? These are all still better than cornflakes, common sense will tell you that.

Insulin is an anabolic hormone - that means it makes you grow. Weightlifters and athletes can take advantage of insulin by eating or drinking a high sugar meal after they do exercise. A high GI drink will make their insulin levels shoot up, and the insulin makes your cells 'open up' and become more receptive to growth - so after a heavy lifting session you can use insulin to help repair muscle.

But outside of that post-workout window as we call it, you don't want that response because not only will insulin encourage cells to absorb nutrients for making muscle, it also encourages cells to take in more fat. If your meals are full of crap, then that crap (thanks to the insulin spike it causes) will absorb more fat.

Like I said in the other thread though- you don't want to resist eating until lunch - eating mid-morning is GOOD if you eat a small healthy snack.

Cheeky_gal

g'em wrote:

There's lots of ways to eat porridge- I love mine with yoghurt and blueberries for example. If you don't like it fair enough, but cornflakes are still crap.

What about no-added sugar muesli (like Hi8 from Flahavans) or All-Bran or Bran Flakes? These are all still better than cornflakes, common sense will tell you that.

Insulin is an anabolic hormone - that means it makes you grow. Weightlifters and athletes can take advantage of insulin by eating or drinking a high sugar meal after they do exercise. A high GI drink will make their insulin levels shoot up, and the insulin makes your cells 'open up' and become more receptive to growth - so after a heavy lifting session you can use insulin to help repair muscle.

But outside of that post-workout window as we call it, you don't want that response because not only will insulin encourage cells to absorb nutrients for making muscle, it also encourages cells to take in more fat. If your meals are full of crap, then that crap (thanks to the insulin spike it causes) will absorb more fat.

Like I said in the other thread though- you don't want to resist eating until lunch - eating mid-morning is GOOD if you eat a small healthy snack.

Ok thanks a mil g'em! Thats good to hear about bran flakes cuz I actually lyk bran flakes!

So do bran flakes have a low GI level then? Would they be healthy to have every morning?

g'em

Cheeky_gal wrote:

So do bran flakes have a low GI level then? Would they be healthy to have every morning?

Cheeky gal, I'd hugely suggest having a read around the net about GI - there's a whole heap of info out there about it. And the GI concept isn't exclusively the only one to follow where healthy eating is concerned - the best way to ensure you know how to eat well to keep yourself happy and healthy is to be able to make your *own* decisions

Here's a list of lots of common foods and their GI rating.
http://www.gifoundation.com/GI%20Food%20List.htm

Bran flakes are actually quite high - around 74 - which means they're probably high in sugars and quite processed? The best thing to do is read the lab el and see can youo decide if the contents are what you'd consider 'healthy' given all your new-found knowledge

Gumbyman

Hi Cheeky Gal.

Sorry to hear about your porridge experience. I'm not a fan of hot porridge but a poster here (think it was Rubadub) recommended the following to me and it is delicious and I've been eating it nearly every morning since.

Buy rolled oats (porridge oats). Pour em into a bowl, pour in some ice cold milk. Add some fruit (raisins, dried bananas and the like - you can buy a bag of mix in tesco/dunnes/health shops). Let it stand for 10 mins so the oats get soft (go and have your shower or whatever) and then tuck in. Great stuff! You can stick in some frozen berries or the like too and let then thaw out in the 10 mins and cool the milk further. Doesn't taste like hot porridge and it feels way lighter. Sure give it a lash!

Gumby.

Cheeky_gal

Gumbyman wrote:

Hi Cheeky Gal.

Sorry to hear about your porridge experience. I'm not a fan of hot porridge but a poster here (think it was Rubadub) recommended the following to me and it is delicious and I've been eating it nearly every morning since.

Buy rolled oats (porridge oats). Pour em into a bowl, pour in some ice cold milk. Add some fruit (raisins, dried bananas and the like - you can buy a bag of mix in tesco/dunnes/health shops). Let it stand for 10 mins so the oats get soft (go and have your shower or whatever) and then tuck in. Great stuff! You can stick in some frozen berries or the like too and let then thaw out in the 10 mins and cool the milk further. Doesn't taste like hot porridge and it feels way lighter. Sure give it a lash!

Gumby.

Sounds sexual...i'll give it a shot! Cheers!

Sorry last question tho...all-bran? Good or bad? I've checked on google but can't find any info on how good it is! Yay or nay?

rubadub

Cheeky_gal wrote:

Sorry last question tho...all-bran? Good or bad?

They are surprisingly bad for you for something that tastes so bad too. Most find them very bland and so think they must be good for you.

http://www.kelloggs.ie/products/viewproduct.aspx?id=302#

They are processed flakes and 22% sugar, nice bit of salt there too.

If you read the stickies and other sites you can learn how to read nutritional data on packs and how to make up your own mind. Many marketers put lies on the packets, they cannot really lie with the figures shown though.

I can't stand the taste of porridge but I will force myself to eat it if it means it's a more healthier/lowfat choice

This is a bad mindset to get into. I am sure there are plenty of foods out there that you would like, or just different twists on them. I am guessing you favour cornflakes over branflakes and presume they must be good for you since they taste bad.
If you are forcing food down it is going to end badly, you will end up on your old foods soon enough. I eat plenty of low calorie healthy foods and do not eat anything that I do not like.

I eat cold milk & oats, put in a little honey and it is lovely. Also porridge pancakes, mix oat flour, egg, milk/water, and fry in a tiny bit of oil in a nonstick pan. Gets your protein in too that way.

CerebralCortex

Sugary I think.