K4

the flananator · 29-08-2007 12:15pm #1

They say D4 Heads want to be Californian, while K4 Heads want to be D4.

What are you're thoughts on the K4 phenom? Surely we all know someone who speaks with an American accent despite living in Newbridge or somewhere else in Kildare all they're lives?

prospect · 29-08-2007 2:57pm

LOL, first I have heard of this.....

Does this K4 refer to a specific area in Kildare?

the flananator · 29-08-2007 3:19pm

Really, Naas is probably the most K4 area of them all, with Newbridge coming a close second. But K4 is not so much an address as it is a state of mind

Clare Bear · 30-08-2007 6:43pm

I'd say Celbridge and Maynooth are more K4?

Danny2580 · 30-08-2007 7:15pm

Agreed, there's a bit of it in Maynooth all right, Clare!

Clare Bear · 30-08-2007 7:17pm

Totally loike

the flananator · 30-08-2007 8:11pm

Hmmm...I'm actually doing a bit of an article on this so pleae tell me more!

dame · 30-08-2007 8:51pm

There are groups of teens all over the country imitating OC accents the last few years. I don't think it's really just a Kildare phenomenon.

However, the yummy mummies who lunch and drive 4x4's seem to be spreading in Kildare!

the flananator · 30-08-2007 9:06pm

But Kildare folk are the only ones who can pull it off as they are without bog-man accents...

GerryRyan · 30-08-2007 11:29pm

@ the flananator

Post the blog, you know you want to

or are ya waiting for a more opportune moment ?

Time Magazine · 31-08-2007 6:24am

When my brother lived in Clane he played golf in Kilkee. He overheard "the wives" talking about living in K4 which, given the location, I presume was the Castledermot area.

prospect · 31-08-2007 8:28am

I would have thought that the most 'K4ish' areas would be, Straffan, Two-Mile-House, and similar small village areas.
Also any areas near an 'exclusive' golf club, e.g. the Houses on Killerig GC, or near Millicent etc.

I suppose an example of this was naming a small housing development 'Straffan Way'. This development is about 500m from the centre of Sallins and about 7Kms from Straffan. I think the developer reckoned he could ask for more money as long as Straffan was in the name ????

the flananator · 31-08-2007 12:02pm

Noted. Keep it coming! The more info/dirt the better!

qwytre · 31-08-2007 12:08pm

I have heard one or two people say "K4" too. The people saying it were from the Donadea area. Yes they drive big 4x4's and are lucky to be filty rich (asset rich anyways) in terms of having loads of land inherited from their farming grandparents.

I laugh in my head when I hear them say it. They are deadly serious too. An unfortunate side effect of "New Ireland".

the flananator · 31-08-2007 12:18pm

qwytre wrote:

I have heard one or two people say "K4" too. The people saying it were from the Donadea area. Yes they drive big 4x4's and are lucky to be filty rich (asset rich anyways) in terms of having loads of land inherited from their farming grandparents.

I laugh in my head when I hear them say it. They are deadly serious too. An unfortunate side effect of "New Ireland".

And in what context were they saying "K4"?

qwytre · 31-08-2007 12:24pm

the flananator wrote:

And in what context were they saying "K4"?

It was just like "oh, that wouldn't happen in K4." and things like that.

If they talk about anything that relates to where they live they just reference by saying "K4". I suppose they dont always say it in a serious way, sometimes tongue and chick, but you know well they want people to see them as being rich, living in an "exclusive" area and are generally privileged.

the flananator · 31-08-2007 12:27pm

Right thanks. And typically, where do these people golf/gym/send their kids to school?

qwytre · 31-08-2007 12:41pm

the flananator wrote:

Right thanks. And typically, where do these people golf/gym/send their kids to school?

Actually I dont know, I am not from the area. I'd imagine the same places as everyone else. I am not aware of K4 member only golf clubs/GYMs/Schools

the flananator · 31-08-2007 12:46pm

Try The K Club/Kilashee/Clongowes.

qwytre · 31-08-2007 12:51pm

the flananator wrote:

Try The K Club/Kilashee/Clongowes.

The people I have heard say "K4" are not even those kind of people. They aspire to be, but are not. I think thats the whole point of "K4", aspirations to be proper upper D4 class.

the flananator · 31-08-2007 12:54pm

qwytre wrote:

The people I have heard say "K4" are not even those kind of people. They aspire to be, but are not. I think thats the whole point of "K4", aspirations to be proper upper D4 class.

Right you are. In that case try Cill Dara Golf Club/The Stand House/Newbridge College!

MayMay · 31-08-2007 10:23pm

prospect wrote:

I would have thought that the most 'K4ish' areas would be, Straffan, Two-Mile-House, and similar small village areas.
Also any areas near an 'exclusive' golf club, e.g. the Houses on Killerig GC, or near Millicent etc.

I suppose an example of this was naming a small housing development 'Straffan Way'. This development is about 500m from the centre of Sallins and about 7Kms from Straffan. I think the developer reckoned he could ask for more money as long as Straffan was in the name ????

Isn't there a Straffan Way in Maynooth too? Probably the same idea? Lots of these D4 types seem to be moving to Kildare anyway....look at some of the houses in Straffan!

Danny2580 · 01-09-2007 7:40am

Yep, Straffan is filthy rich!

Clare Bear · 01-09-2007 9:05am

Horsey central.

the flananator · 01-09-2007 12:59pm

What makes Maynooth K4?

JuJuYNWA · 04-09-2007 12:50pm

the flananator wrote:

What makes Maynooth K4?

Nothing, just take a walk down old greenfield and see how "K4" Maynooth is!

I think the K4 thing is a load of bull****. Its used by blowins in the Kildare area to try and aspire to be something they're not. They are trying to cash in on the reputation of certain areas of the county.

angeldelight · 04-09-2007 12:59pm

the flananator wrote:

What makes Maynooth K4?

I live in Maynooth and have to say I don't think it is at all. Maynooth and Celbridge have a lot of teenagers doing the blonde hair "oh my Gawd that's hot" but most I knew grew out of it anyway! They don't really have the rich yummy mummy types. I definitely think it's centered around the Straffan area

JuJuYNWA · 04-09-2007 1:18pm

angeldelight wrote:

I definitely think it's centered around the Straffan area

I agree, its centered AROUND Straffan, but not in it, being from Straffan myself!

Locals in Straffan think the K4 thing is a load of balls and are proud to be from Straffan in Kildare, not Straffan, west of Dublin.

The same goes for the recent influx of people to the area. If they wanted to buy a house in D4 they could afford it because houses in Straffan are more overpriced than houses in D4.

I think its blowins from areas like Naas, Newbridge, and to a lesser extent Clane, that could not afford houses in the areas that have a posh rep (like Straffan or D4), that want the areas they have moved into to get this K4 label.

People i know that have lived in Naas all there lives take the same line as the locals from Straffan, however the new people that have moved into the area just want it to be something it's not.

prospect · 04-09-2007 2:15pm

JuJuYNWA wrote:

I agree, its centered AROUND Straffan, but not in it, being from Straffan myself!

Locals in Straffan think the K4 thing is a load of balls and are proud to be from Straffan in Kildare, not Straffan, west of Dublin.

The same goes for the recent influx of people to the area. If they wanted to buy a house in D4 they could afford it because houses in Straffan are more overpriced than houses in D4.

I think its blowins from areas like Naas, Newbridge, and to a lesser extent Clane, that could not afford houses in the areas that have a posh rep (like Straffan or D4), that want the areas they have moved into to get this K4 label.

People i know that have lived in Naas all there lives take the same line as the locals from Straffan, however the new people that have moved into the area just want it to be something it's not.

I agree, and I should have stated earlier that (what I interpret to be) the K4 syndrome seems to be only amongst people who recently moved to Kildare.

I work in Dublin, and guys who move out of the city to Kildare like to talk about it alot, even to me (a resident in Kildare for many years), like they are bragging or something! I am just looking at them wondering if they think they are impressing me or something.

Ay Cee · 05-09-2007 8:32pm

A large proportion of Naas people have had that "south soide accent roight" for years. Ye can't tell most of them they're not just severe south siders.

I used to deliver around the Naas area and the amount of wannabe orses is ridiculous!

dame · 06-09-2007 12:06pm

People living in Co.Wicklow, Bray for example have that accent too though. It's not just a Kildare/Naas thing. It is annoying though. It sounds so false!

Ay Cee · 06-09-2007 12:20pm

I'd reckon it's a country wide phenomon of people with notions!

buckie · 25-10-2007 3:34pm

Danny2580 wrote: »

Yep, Straffan is filthy rich!

i wouldnt say they are filthy rich, more so just working to keep the bank manager happy and to keep up with all the neighbours.

but maynooth K4 have you heard them talk more like finglas, ballymun

Passenger · 27-10-2007 4:16pm

hhmmm I would've thought the D4 accent thing came from the towns/villages closer to the south side of Dublin like Leixlip etc. rather than places such as Naas. So many Leixlip people seem to think they are actually from Dublin and not Kildare. Is that a wannabe thing too?

Time Magazine · 28-10-2007 1:43am

Passenger wrote: »

I would've thought the D4 accent thing came from the towns/villages closer to the south side of Dublin like Leixlip etc ... So many Leixlip people seem to think they are actually from Dublin and not Kildare. Is that a wannabe thing too?

Geography aside, Leixlip is far closer to North Dublin than South Dublin imo! The only "Dublin" accents I hear from Leixlip people is the skanger accent they put on to look hard on the 66 to Liffey Valley. I don't think I've ever heard anyone putting on a posh accent.

Terry · 28-10-2007 9:28pm

Ibid wrote: »

When my brother lived in Clane he played golf in Kilkee. He overheard "the wives" talking about living in K4 which, given the location, I presume was the Castledermot area.

qwytre wrote: »

I have heard one or two people say "K4" too. The people saying it were from the Donadea area. Yes they drive big 4x4's and are lucky to be filty rich (asset rich anyways) in terms of having loads of land inherited from their farming grandparents.

I laugh in my head when I hear them say it. They are deadly serious too. An unfortunate side effect of "New Ireland".

This is the funniest thing I've heard in years.

dame wrote: »

People living in Co.Wicklow, Bray for example have that accent too though. It's not just a Kildare/Naas thing. It is annoying though. It sounds so false!

Someone from Bray posted in AH the other day and called themself a Southsider. This also gave me a laugh.

Passenger wrote: »

hhmmm I would've thought the D4 accent thing came from the towns/villages closer to the south side of Dublin like Leixlip etc. rather than places such as Naas. So many Leixlip people seem to think they are actually from Dublin and not Kildare. Is that a wannabe thing too?

Like Ibid said, you would be more likely to hear skanger accents in Leixlip.
I have heard a few put-on posh ones too though. Not that many though, and it seems to be limited to people who have just started college.

binhead · 01-11-2007 2:52pm

Isn't the K4 thing just a play on words? Like B4 in Ballymore eustace, an area rolling behind Ballymore with some MASSIVE house and extremely wealthy families. I wouldn't consider it a phenomenon, just word play, and I'm sure people who aren't actually from the areas use the words far more than those that actually live there.

except the odd nob or two like.

but you'll always get those.

binhead · 01-11-2007 2:55pm

Kids and teenagers who wear Their collars up and mince about "Torkin about Heino" aren't from rich areas or assumed rich areas, they're EVERYWHERE, blame the OC and Ross o Carroll kelly.

dame · 01-11-2007 5:49pm

Just listen to any group of 1st year students in UCD or TCD or DCU or anywhere, from Mayo or Leitrim or wherever, barely in Dublin a wet week and they already have the accent. :rolleyes:

h2s · 01-11-2007 6:02pm

K4, a new one on me and very funny

I have lived in Kildare for about 7 years now (moved from Dub) and I just presumed that they were all culchies and bog savages down here and anyone with a horse was a knacker, albeit some fairly rich knackers.:)

Now I find they all have ideas about themselves, bloody hell I thought I left all that Sh*te behind in the city.:eek:

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