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Boxing beginners

  • 29-08-2007 12:49am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭


    hey im heading off to college now and want to take up boxing with a mate of mine.do you think its possible to learn to box properly at age 19 and to box at a decent level?? any advice would be appreciated aswell:) i'm 5'10 and about 12 stone,not skinny but slim build,thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    you can fight at uni/college level, but you won't go beyond that. most guys whove boxed as a kid will be lightyears ahead of you and 1-2 years of training won't being you anywhere near their level, but you will learn good fundamentals like footwork, defense, correct punching technique, accuracy, speed and power.

    I'm going to take up boxing thi semester in college. I should of done last year but I was too busy with judo. I boxed for a year as a kid, would of loved if I kept at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Spot on-unless your a natural tyson or something.
    box at college level and you'll enjoy that and learn the art also..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    cheers thanks,i think boxing will be a good source of discipline and will give self confidence,aswell as that im sure it is a good art of self defence just in case?a former international amateur boxer once threatened my mate in our local night club,i thought it was quite stupid and immature on his part as im sure he would have had a huge advantage and knew it!lucky common sense prevailed:-)do ye guys think it would take long to be a decent boxer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    if you learn it off a good coach and listen to what he teaches you it can be learned suprisingly quick-getting good at boxing takes a long time though..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    i'm sure when the fundamentals are learned things will come easier and with hard graft.is there any point in like shadow boxing,looking up fotwork on the net and stuff?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Shadow boxing is a vital part of all boxers training, no matter what level your at, just do it with correct technique so you dont learn bad habits, footwork is the difference between landing your shots or not, very important. thats why we skip.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    i play football and in that we have movement drills etc keeping us sharp and im reasonably fit.but you soon find out what real fitness is when you throw punches for a minute.draining!what weight category would i come in i'm 5'10 and just over 12 stone.i was told once that when your learning a sport llook at someone of same build who is a pro and learn off them.like if your 6'5 and thin you swouldnt fight liek tyson you would use your own advantages.recomend any good pro's in my range.cant wait to get started


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Oscar de la hoya might be the man to look at, but your best finding your own style based on your natural abilities, you'll know this after a couple of sessions.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    12 stone is 76KG, you could fight under 75KG.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    And also, in the meantime - what I'd say for you is to get a heavy bag at home.. Just work it with your jab and right cross.. Drill this and nothing else til you start boxing. You'll need to get the endurance in your arm's muscles for punching. If you have a friend to help you, buy focus mits and look for some focus mit drills online.

    Secondly, run two or three times a week. A nice lengthy distance.. This will get you in shape and allow you to go longer in sparring. I'd also suggest that you mix up jogging with sprints at 30 second intervals for 10 seconds. This is to simulate explosive energy.

    Get a jump rope too! Start jumping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭DiscoHugh


    I took up boxing in college.

    Best decision Id ever made!

    If you´re naturally athletic it shouldnt be too hard with plenty of practice to pick up the basics. It s when sparring enters the equasion and somebody is throwing punches at you that you know whether you can actually box or just look good throwing punches at a bag/air

    when it comes to practicing on the heavy bag without guidance from a trainer be careful. Poor technique can lead to damaged wrists!

    best of luck. You wont regret it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭c1979


    dlofnep wrote:
    you can fight at uni/college level, but you won't go beyond that. most guys whove boxed as a kid will be lightyears ahead of you and 1-2 years of training won't being you anywhere near their level, but you will learn good fundamentals like footwork, defense, correct punching technique, accuracy, speed and power.

    I'm going to take up boxing thi semester in college. I should of done last year but I was too busy with judo. I boxed for a year as a kid, would of loved if I kept at it.

    Don't put your limitations on other people. It all about dedication and the power of the mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    c1979 wrote:
    Don't put your limitations on other people. It all about dedication and the power of the mind.
    As much as i admire your belief-boxing is not a sport anyone can just pick up and be great in-if this ever happens the man must be a freak or just huge or something.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭DiscoHugh


    cowzerp wrote:
    As much as i admire your belief-boxing is not a sport anyone can just pick up and be great in-if this ever happens the man must be a freak or just huge or something.


    There are examples in history of late starters making it.

    Larry Holmes only started boxing at 19
    O Neil bell (former cruiser champ) started at 21

    Guys like Sonny Liston,Earnie Shavers and Bernard Hopkins started in prison


    But of course these are few and far between and would have to be exceptionally naturally talented in one way or another.

    So Id say improbable, not impossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'm aware of late starters. Rocky Marciano was another one of them, but realistically - the chances of going far in boxing without a career as a youngster are very slim. You can dream all you like, but when you step in the ring with someone who has a couple of years of boxing, you'll see the difference in class straight away.

    It's not impossible to start a career in boxing at a later age, but the chances of anything amounting of it are very slim.. Especially with the attitudes in alot of clubs who won't put the time into you as you're too old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    i dont really expect to be a liston or anything like that.but to be able to say im a good boxer would be great satisfaction!thanks for all the replies.yes i agree with the point that you can through nice punches at the air all ya liek but sparrign will test the true metal.as in judgement for shots,tempo,defence,range etc...disco hugh how long you boxing now?you have any fights?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    Don't do it man, boxing causes brain damage. All it takes to potentially blind you, burst your eardrum, put you in a wheelchair, or even possibly kill you, is one hard enough punch in the wrong place. Those are medical facts. An uppercut to the jaw, and you could possibly bite your own tongue off, gumshield or not. Would you bang your head against a wall? Of course not. Some hits are stronger then sledgehammers.

    Look at the veterans. They are in bits. Broken noses, missing teeth, speech impediments.

    No doubt all the boxing afficonados will jump to its defense. They however, have a vested interest in pretending that boxing isn't that bad, or that it's consenting adults. No doubt they have invested long periods of their time to it, and want to defend that. It is a brutal, brutal "sport" that imo, has no place in a civilised society. It is high time it was banned.

    I am not afraid to warn you of the dangers now, and I am sure many will agree with me. I am also sure there are many who wished someone had warned them.

    Look, if you want to get fit, by all means, shadow box, skip, hit the bag etc. Ignore the peer pressure, or slagging, or fear of looking weak. Use you head, the right way. No offense to anyone here.

    Peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 boxingfan82


    Hi book smarts. I can see from your post that you are quite passionate about our views on boxing and appear to be well meaning with your advice to the OP. As my name suggests I don't agree with your view of the sport and will outline my experiences as to way I disagree with you. Firstly there is more of a chance of someone suffering brain damage slipping out of the bath. Should bath time be banned also(yes I know this seems quite condescending but I feel no more than your post is). I started boxing when I went to college just like the OP is comtemplating. The possiblity of getting seriously hurt are very slim. First of all there are specific regulations in place to prevent serious injuries. Headguards, gumshields etc. But most importantly and this is something you only become aware of if you have joined a club is the trainers are there the help you. There is no money in it for them and as a result no vested interest on their part. They will only put you in fighting with someone about the same experience as yourself. There are different categories for fighting aslo which prevent inexperienced fighters going in against highly experienced fights. (There is no need for journeymen in amateur boxing). Finally your trainer will not enter you in a fight without you having enough training and sparring experience to look after yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Don't do it man, boxing causes brain damage. All it takes to potentially blind you, burst your eardrum, put you in a wheelchair, or even possibly kill you, is one hard enough punch in the wrong place. Those are medical facts. An uppercut to the jaw, and you could possibly bite your own tongue off, gumshield or not. Would you bang your head against a wall? Of course not. Some hits are stronger then sledgehammers.

    Look at the veterans. They are in bits. Broken noses, missing teeth, speech impediments.

    This CAN be true in professional boxing, but amatuer boxing is far safer. Less rounds, head gear.. Thoroughly regulated.

    The worst shot you can get in amatuer boxing isn't a looping hand to the head.. it's a body shot. Having the wind knocked out of you is far worse. Boxing is a very functional sport and very practical for self defense. There is little to no risk fighting for a year years as an amatuer in college. You've much more of a chance of getting hurt in rugby or even soccer.
    No doubt all the boxing afficonados will jump to its defense. They however, have a vested interest in pretending that boxing isn't that bad, or that it's consenting adults. No doubt they have invested long periods of their time to it, and want to defend that. It is a brutal, brutal "sport" that imo, has no place in a civilised society. It is high time it was banned.

    Yes, we will defend it - especially when you come in making bogus statements about boxing when the dangers are far less in amateur boxing than you have described.

    Fighting is a primal urge. Combat sports are fought all over the world, from judo to boxing, to kickboxing.. We do it because it's apart of our genes. It's gene-deep primitive ape urges. And if two people are willing to step in and throw down - who are you to stop them? People can make their own decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭c1979


    I boxed in uni some years ago. I was novice intervarsities lightweight champ. Problem was I was too fond of gargle and spliff, to be honest it's hard to keep up training with the hectic dipso lifestyle you did in college.

    If I could go back I would have probably trained harder and won a senior interv. title, most of the college fighters are **** u have a load of trinity heads who think they are great because they win the overall medal count, bull**** there was just so many of them. You get th odd good boxer from the IT or sometimes in the major college so watch out.

    What college are you going to????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    heading to nui galway mate!congrats on the title mate impressive stuff.you're a lightweight?what weight would 77kg's be classed as.what so the standard of college boxing isnt amazing u say??but like im sure there are many who have boxed from childhood and are now in college.im excited thinking about it all.never donned the gloves before but would be great to make an impact and win a few bouts;)

    book smart i respect your concerns,tehy were the main reason my parents wouldnt let me box as a youngster,but now im 19 and im sure with protectiv headgear etc i'll be compeltely fine.i've played many contact sports liek gaelic,rugby and soccer,hurling so i know they can be bad for injuries too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    "This CAN be true in professional boxing, but amatuer boxing is far safer. Less rounds, head gear.. Thoroughly regulated."

    So what if it's regulated. The doctors involved in it's regulation should be ashamed of themselves. The brain is not designed to take being beaten like that. It's absolute madness. It is possibly THE dumbest thing you can do. Think about it.

    The worst shot you can get in amatuer boxing isn't a looping hand to the head.. it's a body shot. Having the wind knocked out of you is far worse. Boxing is a very functional sport and very practical for self defense. There is little to no risk fighting for a year years as an amatuer in college. You've much more of a chance of getting hurt in rugby or even soccer.

    No, I think being blinded, paralysed etc is worse. Of course it will never happen, will it?

    Boxing is a very functional sport and very practical for self defense. There is little to no risk fighting for a year years as an amatuer in college. You've much more of a chance of getting hurt in rugby or even soccer.

    Boxing is functional for what? It is arguably practical for self defense. I think the ability to run quickly, or talk your way out of situations is more important. To say there is little to no risk of getting hurt is grossly irresponsible and dangerous, considering the OP is young and immpressionable. Get a doctor in here to agree with you.


    Yes, we will defend it - especially when you come in making bogus statements about boxing when the dangers are far less in amateur boxing than you have described.

    What bogus statements have I made? The dangers are there.

    Fighting is a primal urge. Combat sports are fought all over the world, from judo to boxing, to kickboxing.. We do it because it's apart of our genes. It's gene-deep primitive ape urges. And if two people are willing to step in and throw down - who are you to stop them? People can make their own decisions.

    Not everyone wants to fight. Boxing is not really fighting is it? You might aswell have a slapping competition. A real "fight" should have no rules. Even mma doesnt come close to this.

    You say it is a part of our genes.What gene? What scientific evidence do you have to back this up?

    People cannot be trusted to just "throw down" as you say. Thats why we have a system of laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Don't do it man, boxing causes brain damage. All it takes to potentially blind you, burst your eardrum, put you in a wheelchair, or even possibly kill you, is one hard enough punch in the wrong place. Those are medical facts. An uppercut to the jaw, and you could possibly bite your own tongue off, gumshield or not. Would you bang your head against a wall? Of course not. Some hits are stronger then sledgehammers.

    Look at the veterans. They are in bits. Broken noses, missing teeth, speech impediments.

    No doubt all the boxing afficonados will jump to its defense. They however, have a vested interest in pretending that boxing isn't that bad, or that it's consenting adults. No doubt they have invested long periods of their time to it, and want to defend that. It is a brutal, brutal "sport" that imo, has no place in a civilised society. It is high time it was banned.

    I am not afraid to warn you of the dangers now, and I am sure many will agree with me. I am also sure there are many who wished someone had warned them.

    Look, if you want to get fit, by all means, shadow box, skip, hit the bag etc. Ignore the peer pressure, or slagging, or fear of looking weak. Use you head, the right way. No offense to anyone here.

    Peace.
    get a life, you clearly dont know what your talking about. stick to the books and stop been a troll.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'm not even going to disect that mess of a post. For someone with a name "Book Smarts", I figured you'd at least be able to use the quote function correctly. I've never once met anyone who's fought in amateur boxing who's being blinded or paralyzed. Unless you have sources to prove this?
    Not everyone wants to fight. Boxing is not really fighting is it? You might aswell have a slapping competition. A real "fight" should have no rules.

    I find it funny in one post you try to demonstrate the raw danger of boxing from brute & powerful punches to the head, but minutes later you're equating it to a slapping competition. LOL. At least have some consistency would you? As far as self defense goes - Sure if I'm attacked, I can just blind them and paralyze them all with the one punch, while giving them a speech impediment for good measure!

    But yes, boxing is a fight. It's not a "street fight" - there are many forms of fighting. Instead of wasting your energy trying to convince us of the immorality of boxing Wordsworth, step into a ring and then come back and tell us that it's not fighting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    "I'm not even going to disect that mess of a post. For someone with a name "Book Smarts", I figured you'd at least be able to use the quote function correctly."

    If you want to start down that pointless road, we can start with analysing the perfect grammar and spelling of:

    "There is little to no risk fighting for a year years as an amatuer in college."


    "As far as self defense goes - Sure if I'm attacked, I can just blind them and paralyze them all with the one punch, while giving them a speech impediment for good measure!

    Tell that to Michael Watson

    Check out:www.medscape.com/viewarticle/507180
    http://www.retiredboxers.com/Resources.htm
    Just google:
    boxing should be banned in civilized countries - round 4)
    There are many other sources on the internet. Im not going to do your work for you.

    "But yes, boxing is a fight. It's not a "street fight" - there are many forms of fighting. Instead of wasting your energy trying to convince us of the immorality of boxing Wordsworth, step into a ring and then come back and tell us that it's not fighting."

    If this is about the definition of the word "fight", then I will agree, there are many forms of fighting. Try rock, paper, scissors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    It’s plain for all to see you have no interest or love for the sport of boxing so why even enter this forum in the first place with your scare mongering?!

    Injuries are a part of physical activity, that’s life.

    You’re clearly blowing your argument out of proportion with your paranoia streak.

    wrap yourself in bubble wrap and lock yourself in a padded room, you might feel safer. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    TROLL-Boxing has risks just like any other sport, amateur boxing has no deaths in ireland and pro boxers get payed very well for there chosen sport-i would suggest you go to a forum that is all about banning everything on earth as that will suit you better, you can choose not to box or watch boxing, your loss. :cool:

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    If you want to start down that pointless road, we can start with analysing the perfect grammar and spelling of:

    I spell my nickname backwards. I'm not the one advertising anything here.

    You do realise you just pointed to a site that emphasises on "professional boxing" and not amateur right? Have you read a word I've said?
    If this is about the definition of the word "fight", then I will agree, there are many forms of fighting. Try rock, paper, scissors.

    That's your argument on why boxing isn't a fight? Why don't you go harass the bullriding forum, or the rugby forum. They are clearly more dangerous than amatuer boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭c1979


    Rossibaby wrote:
    heading to nui galway

    ?what weight would 77kg's be classed as.what so the standard of college boxing isnt amazing u say??

    No longer lightweight walk around over 11 stone but probably could get down to welter 69kg or light welter 64kg.

    Don't ever remember NUIGalway having a boxing club but that could have all changed. If they don't contact a local club in the city get the numbers from iaba.ie train with the club and a trainer will get you ready for intervarsity boxing. Man there's a lot more distraction though in college.

    You have to go down to 75kg middle weight but the weight should drop off when you start your road work. no point going up to 81kg as you are not big enough unless you hit the weights hard.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    I know this is prob a stupid question, but do any of those boxing clubs let people who ain't in the college come down and spar a little with the members?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    Amateur or professional, it doesnt matter, all it takes is ONE PUNCH to kill you. That's right, one punch. Would you hit someone over the head with a baseball bat? Of course not. Well some punches have MORE POWER than a hit with a baseball bat. Think about it. Think about the damage that you are doing to your brain everytime you get hit. Maybe the effects aren't immediate. Maybe they will happen later in life. Your memory, your problem solving ability. But don't listen to me, listen to dlofnep the invincible street fighter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Amateur or professional, it doesnt matter, all it takes is ONE PUNCH to kill you. But don't listen to me, listen to dlofnep the invincible street fighter.
    yes thats right dont listen to him, listen to dlofnep aka balrog street fighter extraordinaire. at least he makes sense.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    "I'd prefer to live a day as a lion than a lifetime as a lamb"

    Book Smarts take a look at the statistics below - and that was only the very first result on a google search !

    http://www.lpch.org/DiseaseHealthInfo/HealthLibrary/orthopaedics/stats.html

    No mention of boxing there.
    Would you encourage people to avoid baseball, cycling, ice-skating, etc. ?

    It is well known (use google) that when it comes to serious injuries and deaths boxing is way down the list and has consistently been since these type of statistics have become available.

    Do you avoid travelling in cars, as there is a significantly greater chance of dying / getting seriously injured every time you sit into one than there is competing in a boxing ring ?

    If you want to live a life of fear go ahead, but don't come on here trying to scare people who actually want to live their lives as they see fit instead of a life of misery in a padded bubble.

    By the way, there is no such word as "afficonados" - it's either "afficionados" or "aficionados". People in glasshouses and all that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,374 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    As a fan of boxing for many years now and from watching boxing so much I do see where this guy/gal is coming from, however, he/she is not conveying it terribly well. PRO boxing is a brutal and dangerous sport where the GOAL is to beat your opponent into submission. We can say it's to uotbox or outfox, but the reality is that they are there to put HURT on their opponent and to KO him as quickly as possible. Taking head shots as fighters do is not IDEAL and is extremely silly and dangerous. But this is life and that is the sport of boxing. It is also consenting adults and there are rules and regulations and health and safety. Barbaric?, maybe, but without doubt the most difficult and skillfull sport ever. Should it be banned?
    No way..

    I can think of many sports that I would rather NOT compete in because I believe them to be more dangerous....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    Look boxing causes brain damage, simple as that. You can pretend all you like that its a safe sport, but there's a reason most people don't do it. The reason is this: Because it's stupid. Sparring is one of THE DUMBEST things you can do. What kind of an idiot thinks "I know, I think I'll INTENTIONALLY traumatise my brain!"

    Keep denying it all you like, or picking holes in my grammar or spelling, if that makes you feel more "intelligent." You're the idiot for doing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    I know this is prob a stupid question, but do any of those boxing clubs let people who ain't in the college come down and spar a little with the members?

    Anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,374 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Look boxing causes brain damage, simple as that. You can pretend all you like that its a safe sport, but there's a reason most people don't do it. The reason is this: Because it's stupid. Sparring is one of THE DUMBEST things you can do. What kind of an idiot thinks "I know, I think I'll INTENTIONALLY traumatise my brain!"

    Keep denying it all you like, or picking holes in my grammar or spelling, if that makes you feel more "intelligent." You're the idiot for doing it.
    Can cause brain damage and has done, but like I said, that is life and people entering the Sport know this full well, just like a person who gets behind the wheel of his/her car knows that they are taking a risk. Getting into a hard rugby tackle is another example. Being the hooker in a rugby scrum is another example......we all can't be sissies like you mate. Some of us have to take risks in life. You don't take risks, you achieve nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Look boxing causes brain damage, simple as that.
    Boxing can cause brain damage,
    so can mobile phones-nothing is plain as simple like you would lead us believe-go to a forum where your not trolling for trouble..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    trevor,i know nuig used to practise in a hall for boxing,but then moved to a club in the city to avail of the ring,i'm sure if you werent in college but attended the club sparring could be arranged.i would welcome anyone who wants to sparr with me anyways,all practise is worthwhile!

    booksmart you've said your piece now leave it,is not a revelation that boxing can be dangerous,that doesnt mean it should be banned.if someone is brave enough to step in the ring[with constant supervision and trained professionals with years of experience lookign after you thats the persons choice.its not like street fighting mate come on!

    lads how is the college circuit set up.i mean how many bouts you get,whats the time frame between them.and will skilled boxers and newbie's all be kept apart.although i'd imagine fighting more skiled boxers is how someone learns


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    Rossibaby wrote:
    trevor,i know nuig used to practise in a hall for boxing,but then moved to a club in the city to avail of the ring,i'm sure if you werent in college but attended the club sparring could be arranged.i would welcome anyone who wants to sparr with me anyways,all practise is worthwhile!


    I live in Dublin... Geography has not been kind to us! ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    what age are you mate,you a beginner or boxing long?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    Rossibaby wrote:
    what age are you mate,you a beginner or boxing long?

    23, I’ve been kick boxing for a while but I’d like to do a bit of boxing for a bit and really try and improve my hands.

    Same problem as most people when it comes to finding a boxing gym at 23. They seem to only want to take the young’uns in.
    I figure a college boxing club is the best bet at getting into one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Look boxing causes brain damage, simple as that.

    Boxing "can" cause brain damage. It's not as simple as that.. Especially in amateur ranks.
    You can pretend all you like that its a safe sport.

    Nobody said it was a safe sport, but the element in question in college or uni level boxing is "amateur boxing" which requires head gear, and less rounds than pro circuits and you'd be hard up finding people who get seriously injured in it. You're really dramatizing the whole thing. Professional boxing however is a different ballgame, but we're not talking professional boxing here.

    It's a combat sport, their is an element of risk when you fight - but anyone competing knows this.. and it's their decision to fight. Not yours.. To call on something to be banned when people have the choice to fight or not is absolutely absurd. Should we ban freedom of speech and choice too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Look boxing causes brain damage, simple as that.

    It's not actually that simple.
    Has boxing caused brain damage in the past ? Yes.
    Will boxing cause brain damage in the future ? Yes.
    Does boxing cause brain damage right across the board to every single participant as your emotive statements suggest ? ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!
    You can pretend all you like that its a safe sport,

    I don't think anybody here is "pretending" anything. There are very obvious risks, just as there are in countless everyday activities and hobbies, but people still choose to do them - BECAUSE THEY WANT TO !!!
    but there's a reason most people don't do it. The reason is this

    Fear !

    Unless you've actually done it you won't realise that stepping into a boxing ring against a trained opponent (knowing what's about to follow, as distinct from a first-timer out for a joke) is possibly the must nerve-inducing and scarey thing most people will ever do. To overcome this fear (or any fear) by facing it head-on takes genuine bravery and serious mental strength.
    What kind of an idiot thinks "I know, I think I'll INTENTIONALLY traumatise my brain

    Well, I'll take your word for it that that's how idiots think, I wouldn't know, but boxers actually think about intentionally traumatising their opponent's brain !
    Keep denying it all you like, or picking holes in my grammar or spelling, if that makes you feel more "intelligent." You're the idiot for doing it.

    You're actually the person who started "analysing the perfect grammar and spelling".


    It's blatantly obvious to us all that you really have no idea what you're talking about. Your argument is a weak, emotion-filled rant based on generalisations and half-truths.

    The real problem here is that boxing and those that partake in it force you to look deep inside yourself and realise that you could never summon up that sort of courage to face something so terrifying and instead of admitting that you (like most weak-willed people) end up criticizing something you don't understand - something that takes you outside your safety-filled, insipid little cocoon-like existence.

    There are many forms of courage, but that seen in a boxing ring is courage in it's rawest and rarest form and is the reason boxing will continue forever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 boxingfan82


    Hi Rossi. The college circuit can be made up of Colours tournaments. i.e. 1 college against another college. This will depend on the college you ae in. Then there are the National Intervarsitys. These are divided into 2 parts. Firstly the Junior intervarsity which is for fighters with less the 5 competative bouts and then approx 2 weeks later are the Senior Intervarsity. There are 2 categories here. the less than 10 competative bouts category and the the open class i.e. more than 10 competative bouts.
    Any fighter can only have at most 2 bouts in any one day. So depending on the number of competitors that weight in (and as your a midle weight that will probably be more than 5 so this will probably take more than 1 day.
    The Intervarsity schedule is usually on
    www.cusai.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭johnathan woss


    Book Smarts is your position on dangerous sports consistent ?

    Do you want to see rugby, american football, basketball, hurling, maybe even all contact sports banned ?

    What about horse-riding and all motor-sports ?

    Or rock-climbing and pot-holing, which can be very dangerous ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭DiscoHugh


    Rossibaby wrote:
    i...disco hugh how long you boxing now?you have any fights?


    Started boxing at 19 in 2nd year college. Boxed for a year had a few fights. Spent a year in Spain (no clubs where I was). Boxed again in Final year.

    Was Junior intervarsity champ at 75kg. Was supposed to fight senior and B&I but i injured my wrist at the juniors. Continued training in the college club until I went travelling for 6 months.In Buenos Aires now looking for a club.

    As said before, college boxing revolves around the junior intervarsity,senior intervarsity and British & Irish championships (and for us the colours).

    We had some sparring and some fights arranged with outside clubs too e.g. Drimnagh, Fergus´in Bray.

    As for experience. It s varying. Mostly beginners some who ve been boxing throughout college and for example, we also had the pleasure of having the Taylor`s train with us quite a few times. I sparred with Katie Taylor`s bro Peter (attended the same college)a few times... He was damn good and Katie was phenomenal too. (never sparred her thankfully!)

    Please guys, no point in dignifying "Book Smarts" with responses. Obvious troll who chooses to ignore facts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    thats great how ya won junior champs same weight i may be in and all!so you are pretty handy with the fists now...hard b******? lol ahh all sounds great,i think my footwork needs a lot of work when i start mybalance isnt great when moving forward and back etc....you find a big increase in your hand speed and power ya?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Rossibaby wrote:
    thats great how ya won junior champs same weight i may be in and all!so you are pretty handy with the fists now...hard b******? lol ahh all sounds great,i think my footwork needs a lot of work when i start mybalance isnt great when moving forward and back etc....you find a big increase in your hand speed and power ya?
    Skipping and lot's of it-get the footwork going...

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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