Cork v Kerry

nacho libre

I've just realised Cork don't have a chance of winning this game. Considering, the Kerry backs kept the Dublin forwards by and large quiet, what chance do the Cork forwards have? It looks like the first back-to-back title win...since 1990.

daveirl

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TomMc

I really fancy Cork to shade this one. They must be licking their lips at the prospect of beating Kerry in an All-Ireland final. It is all the motivation they need and that counts for a lot. Cork have everything to win, Kerry everything to lose. They destroyed Meath (on the day) so must have great self belief now. I can see them getting the better of Kerry at midfield, having more overall possession and their running game (they support one another really well) creating real problems. All they need is to make good use of it in front of goal. Kerry have more ability and strength in depth (squad) and while they can step things up when required, they do not have that killer edge they use too.

Having said that I would say it could be a real scrap and may not be pretty.

Zzippy

daveirl wrote:

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Agreed. Kerry will be hot favourites with the bookies, but Cork do have a chance. They'll need to play out of their skins though. Kerry have had 2 fairly tough matches now since the Munster final, Cork have had a fairly handy run through the qualifiers and beat a Meath team that really let themselves down on the day, they haven't had the tough games that they needed to get ready for this.
Think Kerry will have enough to spare, but would love to see a good close game, whoever wins.

K-9

TomMc wrote:

I really fancy Cork to shade this one. They must be licking their lips at the prospect of beating Kerry in an All-Ireland final. It is all the motivation they need and that counts for a lot. Cork have everything to win, Kerry everything to lose. They destroyed Meath (on the day) so must have great self belief now. I can see them getting the better of Kerry at midfield, having more overall possession and their running game (they support one another really well) creating real problems. All they need is to make good use of it in front of goal. Kerry have more ability and strength in depth (squad) and while they can step things up when required, they do not have that killer edge they use too.

Having said that I would say it could be a real scrap and may not be pretty.

+1

They also have a good defence. If they can keep Kerry goalless and maybe 12/13 points at the most they have a right chance. Its in Corks interest for the game to be tight and scrappy.

Pride Fighter

Go Kerry!! They will be the first team since Cork to win back to back AI's. Fair play to them. Only joking. A ball has not even been kicked yet and Cork look like a very fit, ferocious outfit. If Cork can stay on top of the Kerry forwards they will win, if Kerry can score enough they will win. It will be a great match.

K-9

That will be the key. How good the Cork defence is and how well the Kerry forwards play. Can't see them getting 1-15 again. Could be something similar to the Kerry Monaghan match.

Will Cork bring back Masters if hes fit. Managed fine without him the last day.

bill_ashmount

I think Cork will win by a point or two.

D. Coughlan

Seanies32 wrote:

That will be the key. How good the Cork defence is and how well the Kerry forwards play. Can't see them getting 1-15 again. Could be something similar to the Kerry Monaghan match.

Will Cork bring back Masters if hes fit. Managed fine without him the last day.

I heard masters is fit, you have to play him like, he would get on any football team in the country and he is best free taker in the team by a long shot. Who's going to lose out is the problem.

This is Cork's best chance of All- Ireland, they have been in so many semi's and now they have made it. I can't see them flopping like Mayo, particularly as its against Kerry, no motivation required. If Cork can win out in mid-field like they did in the Munster final for long periods, they have a great chance. They have the best defence in the country and the fowards really steped it up a gear against Meath when Masters was out, hopefuly it will continue for the final.

The problem for Cork is that Kerry have the big match experience of winning out in close matches. We clearly saw that against Monaghan and when they were passing the ball for around 3 minutes at the end of the Crusack Stand when the Dublin match was in the closing stages. Cork won't fear Kerry particularly as, to me anyway, they not been that impressive this year compared to other years

I expect a close match but overall I think another 10 point win would do nicely for all those loses at the hands of Kerry!!! Or is that just wishful thinking!!

MementoMori

I think this will be tight but I fancy Kerry to do the double. (Back-to back wins over Cork and Sam)

As other posters have said I reckon the games against Dublin and Monaghan will have brought Kerry on a lot whereas I don't think any of Cork's games will have helped them much.I think the experience of the tough games will particulalry help Young and Reidy.

Even though the Cork backs are very good I'd be hoping for an improved performance by Kerry. Thought they never really hit top form against the Dubs apart from in short patches. Against the Cork backs they will have to up this performance. Also if players in the forwards (Brosnan, Sheehan, Galvin) aren't performing then at most give them 50 minutes especially when you have the strength in depth in terms of forwards on the bench. Assuming the same line up as the last day (that's MFR, Darren & Sean O Sullivan plus the forgotten man that is Quill on the bench), change things around and bring on fresh legs.

About Masters - I'm not sure if Morgan should start him if fit. Tony Davies on The Sunday Game said he would be fit. I think the best option might be to use him as an impact sub. I think the Cork forwards play better as a unit without him, whereas when he is on the pitch the tendency seems to be "give the the ball to James" (which is understandable). However with Masters on the field the Cork attack is a lot less pacey (he's not blessed with pace and tends to slow up the ball) and this allows opposing backs to get back in position and makes life more difficult for the other forwards.
It's a lot more difficult to stop six players playing well than one playing out-of-his skin.

Would think Cork have the advantage on the line as long as Morgan doesn't spontaneusly explode. Billy would be quicker to make changes whereas Pat O'Shea just seem slow to change things around which I reckon could be a weakness.

I think midfield will be more about who wins the breaking ball rather than clean catching. Also think that they should forget about Quirke altogether as he has to be about fifth choice for midfield, especially given his mobility around the field .(Dara, Scanlon, Griffin, Donaghy,) Think you could see Donaghy dropping out to midfield for a patch as well.

More later as I mull it more.

Ciarrai abu

MementoMori

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lukin

Billy Morgan has more experience than Pat O' Shea, this will be Billy's eight final as player and manager (nine if you count the replay in '88) and Pat O' Shea's first. I think that could be a factor. So far O' Shea has just continued on the work of Jack O' Connor, I'm not saying that means he's not a good manager but his players probably know what to do without much help at this stage.
Billy has built a new team from scratch and has been in this situation before and won't panic if Cork are in trouble.
O' Shea is still an unknown quantity as a manager. I won't watch the final by the way, except maybe through my hands as they will be covering my face

jank

Arguably Cork have the best 1-9 this year. Its just their forwards have done the business until the meath match.
It will be low scoring but if cork take their chances and play to their strengths then they should win this.
Keeping the kerry forwards quiet will be hard but they did ok in the munster final, should have won that really!

Aido c

Cork are the young side in this contest, but sure haven’t they done well in recent years at u21 level, how many have they won?

I think Cork will have problems coming up to pace, Cork have not had a knock em down & drag em out contest since July (Kerry), Meath did them no favours rolling over like they did. The Dublin & Monagan battles will really stand to Kerry and I cannot see too much complacency in the face of a red jersey.

I agree with the hypothesis of this thread, the symmetry of dismantling another team on All Ireland day would appeal to this Kerry team and I do not think what nacho libre says is impossible.

nacho libre

daveirl wrote:

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okay maybe they have a chance- i certainly hope so, but i just feel Kerry have too much up front for Cork to cope with. I doubt the Cork forwards will get on top of the Kerry backs. I think Kerry will win this with a few points to spare.

yahoo_moe

nacho libre wrote:

the Kerry backs kept the Dublin forwards by and large quiet

I know I'm a Dub but I've seen teams (esp. Kerry under Jack O'Connor) keep the opposition a lot quieter than 16 points...

I think Cork have a chance alright but a lot will depend on whether Darragh Ó Sé is fully fit or not - they could really miss him, as evidenced by Whelan & Ryan really getting into their rhythm the other day once he was gone.

daveirl wrote:

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Also, I think I'm right in saying that Ó Sé wasn't actually on Nicholas Murphy in that final so it would have probably been Tommy Griffin that got schooled. He still clattered him in the semi though, no doubt about that

Nalced_irl

I would have to say Cork have a serious chance this year. No doubting the last 2 games for Kerry would have done alot more than what Cork have had, but especially after the Munster final, Cork will seriously want this and get revenge of the sweetest kind (as if Sam isnt enough ). Kerry tho, havent looked the same as previous years, but when questions are asked, they answer. (aparently they had that Haze column from the paper on the dressingroom wall for the Dublin game for inspiration. Thats how to use the media right!). I think again, like the Hurling final, this will be a close one and could go either way. If O Shea is out, i would fancy Cork; If not, i think its a coinflip.

doylo0707

kerry 2 win by 3 or 4 pts i'd say, and i think the cork defence is over rated, cooper always beats kieran o connor, Mike frank destroyed shields in killarney and won't even start the final, run at spllane and o leary and they foul. and corks running game suits kerry as demenstrated by the semi final last year, cork need to start masters 2 have a chance, pity kerry have the best corner back in the country

D. Coughlan

Aido c wrote:

Cork are the young side in this contest, but sure haven’t they done well in recent years at u21 level, how many have they won?

I think Cork will have problems coming up to pace, Cork have not had a knock em down & drag em out contest since July (Kerry), Meath did them no favours rolling over like they did. The Dublin & Monagan battles will really stand to Kerry and I cannot see too much complacency in the face of a red jersey.

I agree with the hypothesis of this thread, the symmetry of dismantling another team on All Ireland day would appeal to this Kerry team and I do not think what nacho libre says is impossible.

Cork are the current All-Ireland U21 Football Champions, so they have have proven themselves.

K-9

doylo0707 wrote:

kerry 2 win by 3 or 4 pts i'd say, and i think the cork defence is over rated, cooper always beats kieran o connor, Mike frank destroyed shields in killarney and won't even start the final, run at spllane and o leary and they foul. and corks running game suits kerry as demenstrated by the semi final last year, cork need to start masters 2 have a chance, pity kerry have the best corner back in the country

I thought cute Kerry H**** where supposed to talk up the opposition first.;)

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

(aparently they had that Haze column from the paper on the dressingroom wall for the Dublin game for inspiration. Thats how to use the media right!)

He was very Hazey alright.:D

Seems to have it in for Kerry alright. Substance to some of it, the rest plain mad.

In fairness to him he was nearly right about the Monaghan match like myself. Could see a big fright coming whereas most of the media and even boardsies here didn't.

When he's good, he's good, when he's bad, he's dreadful. Hasn't changed from his playing days then!

Nalced_irl

Ah, he is right in a way about Kerry. They arent the team they were and by their standards may be seen as weak? (any Kerryman to clarify?) However, to suggest a 7/8 point Dublin victory is plain silly. I have to be honest, i didnt see Monaghan getting that close. I thought they might stay with them for a good majority of the match but be killed off 5 to 10 mins from the end however not doing as well as they did.

K-9

I suppose it depends if you consider this team as completely different to the 97/00 team or count the 00 team as with the 04/06 team. A big credit is the way they came back, tinkered, learned and added to the teams from 01,02 and 03. On the minus side is losing to Tyrone twice and maybe only beating an Armagh team last year that was past its best.

Before that you have to go back to the 70's and 80's team, what team can compare with them?

Nalced_irl

The Mighty Ducks from that film

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

The Mighty Ducks from that film

Nah, that team from Escape to Victory was better!

Nalced_irl

Yea, well they actually had Pele and Esbiuo (sp) didnt they? Along with a few England world cup winners. They didnt have that Hollywood edge tho that the Ducks had ya no?

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

Yea, well they actually had Pele and Esbiuo (sp) didnt they? Along with a few England world cup winners. They didnt have that Hollywood edge tho that the Ducks had ya no?

Yeah and soccer playing wimps too! Hockey is different though they could learn from the Dublin Kerry match and the supporters at Croke Park on Sunday.

Btw:D

Nalced_irl

hehe, absolutely

doylo0707

Seanies32 wrote:

I thought cute Kerry H**** where supposed to talk up the opposition first.;)

I was going 2 but theres nothing 2 talk up,oh i meant 2 say noel o leary is having a great year,an excellant man marker and a definete for all star and pierce o neill a natrual centre foward can kick some great long range points:rolleyes: :rolleyes: see what I mean

Mr. Incognito

I fancy Kerry by three or four points. I made the same point about Dublin. One game does not a summer make. If you examine the form over the last few years, Kerry have the edge over this Cork team. They have beat them hands down in Croke Park where the open space suits Kerry's game in the last two years.
Cork won every ball at midfield in the last ten minutes in the munster final but Kerry's winning points came from the half backs turning over ball and setting up fine scores. Plus, Kerry's history shows that they peak in September and are a much worse side in the provincial finals. I just can't see Cork doing it, Kerry are too strong all over the field.

blackbelt

I've been thinking about who I'd like to win and it is a catch 22 situation.Normally I would prefer Cork to beat Kerry but on reflection on some individuals posts over the last few days
Ive been left scratching my head wondering whats best.

If Kerry win,the rest of the country will not be encouraged next time they play Kerry.To be honest,I thought Tyrone would have had the only chance of beating Kerry this year but they didn't even get that close.A Kerry win would reinstate the idea that Kerry are untouchable etc.I'm looking for Kerry to be taken down a peg or two so they won't take the All Ireland for granted in the next year or so.

If Cork win it will be a great thing for GAA football but some of the Cork reps on here may rub it in to the other 31 counties reps.Also as a Dub,I'm sure we'd get the whole "we beat Kerry and you couldn't" line.

However on the balance of things and as I write this,I want Cork to win.I believe Kerry would find it harder to come back if Cork did them and it would be something Kerry would never live down for years to come.The stakes are high enough in Munster Finals but the ultimate trophy being won by Cork over Kerry is priceless.

Corcaigh abu.

Ice_Box

I hope whoever plays best on the day wins. I dont like the way people hope for a particular team to lose rather than a particular team to win. Not very sporting if you ask me.

Cork were the last team to beat Kerry in the championship and they could easily do it again. And James Masters is probably the best langer in the world!

Nalced_irl

Well, i hope Cork win more so than Kerry lose. I dont have anything against Kerry. They are a successful team for a good reason, but i think whats making football so good in the last 10 years or so is that there are constantly new teams competing for the title and coming very close if not winning. If Cork win it, it is another team to come out of nowhere (relatively, at least according to the pundits!) and take the biggest prize on offer in football.

K-9

blackbelt wrote:

Normally I would prefer Cork to beat Kerry but on reflection on some individuals posts over the last few days

Ah, I wouldn't read to much into the posts. It's a Munster derby on AI final day. Going to be a lot of good slagging with some taking it to seriously. Tyrone Armagh was the same and I'm sure Dublin Meath would have been to.

blackbelt wrote:

If Kerry win,the rest of the country will not be encouraged next time they play Kerry.To be honest,I thought Tyrone would have had the only chance of beating Kerry this year but they didn't even get that close.A Kerry win would reinstate the idea that Kerry are untouchable etc.I'm looking for Kerry to be taken down a peg or two so they won't take the All Ireland for granted in the next year or so.

Don't think that will happen from a Kerry or other county perspective. Anybody read Hayes defending his OTT article in the Tribune. He did make a point though that the AI has been weaker the last couple of years because of Tyrone/Armagh/Dublin/Galway etc. just not being near the level from a few years back. IMO, he has a point but thats not Kerrys fault.

blackbelt wrote:

However on the balance of things and as I write this,I want Cork to win.I believe Kerry would find it harder to come back if Cork did them and it would be something Kerry would never live down for years to come.The stakes are high enough in Munster Finals but the ultimate trophy being won by Cork over Kerry is priceless.

Going for Cork, moreso because they have been close the last couple of years, in a way like Dublin. It's the underdog thing to. Morgan managing them to a AI 17 years would be some achievement and I'm sure he'll love the sweetness of denying Kerry emulating his Cork teams achievement of a 2 in a row.

Kind of neutral enough on this one. Kerry getting 3/4 AI's says alot to.

blackbelt

Well there is that too with Cork being able to deny Kerry a double.Usually we see Kerry in September with a new team coming into the final as well and usually that other team disappear in the next year and come back 2 years later ie Mayo and Tyrone.Would it be the case that this will be as far as Cork can go if they don't win it.They had an easy enough route to the final but will they be shown up on 16th September.

I used to dislike Tyrone and with good cause but Ive always admired them for beating Kerry when they were underdogs.Cork will not think of themselves as the team that last beat Kerry in the championship but they will think of themselves as a team that now must focus on pipping Kerry to the post and saying we beat you for Sam and we denied you the double.

One thing has to be said,the standard of football this year has not been great for the usual suspects and I still belive Kerry have disimproved.I think if Kerry were to play themselves last year,the 2006 team would win but it goes to show that everybody else has not improved if they still can't take Kerry.This goes to show how much Kerry are ahead of the pack.

I think for the good of GAA at this stage,a Cork win would shake things up and make the championship more exciting for next year.

lukin

Thanks to the Dubs on here for their support, although I've a feeling it's more a case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"!

K-9

blackbelt wrote:

I think if Kerry were to play themselves last year,the 2006 team would win but it goes to show that everybody else has not improved if they still can't take Kerry.This goes to show how much Kerry are ahead of the pack.

I think for the good of GAA at this stage,a Cork win would shake things up and make the championship more exciting for next year.

I wonder about the standard in 06 too though. Cork beat Kerry, Kerry beat Longford and a Armagh that I'm beginning to think where in decline anyway.

Looking back at that match, Armagh where brilliant 1st half but the believe and everything else we associate with them seem to go in the last 15/20 minutes. That and of course Kerry are a good team. After that Cork and Mayo.

Agree on Cork winning. A team that would have been considered maybe top 4 to 6 winning it would give heart to other counties, but we'll probably be posting next year that they only beat Kerry in the final! and nobody else along the way

The old cliche, like in the hurling on Sunday, the better team on the day will win, and Cork have a right chance on the day, if certain things go right for them. Wee bit of luck does no harm either!

blackbelt

Cork can certainly beat Kerry and they should have the last time if it was not for some cynical play by the Kerry defence pulling jersies when a player has a clean shot on goal and I believe the Kerry fans on here will see the point I am making and acknowledge its feasibilty.Who knows what would have happened if he got a free in or scored if he wasnt pulled by the jersey.

This is an indication of how a decision like that can swing the pendulum in one teams favour.If Cork are to win,they will have to be as cute as Kerry and try to get away with things like the Kerry team do from time to time ie the odd tug of a jersey and wasting a bit more time by lying on the ground hurt when they are up by a point or two.I do not really condone this element of the game but if it works and upsets Kerry,it is a course of action that Cork may look at.

I think Kerry in 06 would beat Kerry in 07.They may have lost to Cork in Munster in 06 but I was more impressed with them for coming back when everybody started writing them off when it was reported there may be descension in the camp.Longford were at their best last year even if it might have been a flash in the pan and Kerry came back to beat the team that beat them only a few weeks back.

As for Cork being the enemy of our enemy,well I am not anti Kerry whatsoever but I see things with my eyes and did not like one or two elements of Kerrys game against Cork and Dublin.I still have a lot of respect for most of their fans and their team but I think GAA needs another team to win the Sam Maguire as this dominance by Kerry is boring.That is nothing against Kerry themselves but more for the good of GAA.

Like the hurling Final,I believe Cork will have the backing of the other 30 counties but I think Kerry will have too much.

Pride Fighter

Kerry to win by a Gooch attack!!

yayamark

blackbelt wrote:

Cork can certainly beat Kerry and they should have the last time if it was not for some cynical play by the Kerry defence pulling jersies when a player has a clean shot on goal and I believe the Kerry fans on here will see the point I am making and acknowledge its feasibilty.Who knows what would have happened if he got a free in or scored if he wasnt pulled by the jersey.

This is an indication of how a decision like that can swing the pendulum in one teams favour.If Cork are to win,they will have to be as cute as Kerry and try to get away with things like the Kerry team do from time to time ie the odd tug of a jersey and wasting a bit more time by lying on the ground hurt when they are up by a point or two.I do not really condone this element of the game but if it works and upsets Kerry,it is a course of action that Cork may look at.

I think Kerry in 06 would beat Kerry in 07.They may have lost to Cork in Munster in 06 but I was more impressed with them for coming back when everybody started writing them off when it was reported there may be descension in the camp.Longford were at their best last year even if it might have been a flash in the pan and Kerry came back to beat the team that beat them only a few weeks back.

As for Cork being the enemy of our enemy,well I am not anti Kerry whatsoever but I see things with my eyes and did not like one or two elements of Kerrys game against Cork and Dublin.I still have a lot of respect for most of their fans and their team but I think GAA needs another team to win the Sam Maguire as this dominance by Kerry is boring.That is nothing against Kerry themselves but more for the good of GAA.

Like the hurling Final,I believe Cork will have the backing of the other 30 counties but I think Kerry will have too much.

Cynical play? is this coming froma dub? if if if. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Not having a go at u blackbelt. It may have been a cynical foul by pulling the jersey but i dont think the whole game can come down to just that incident.

How about that O Leary gentleman. If he had been sent off when he should have been Kerry would have had an extra forward for how long? What difference would have that made to the score.

I really think these things even themselves over the course of the game.

I think either Kerry or Cork can win, but Kerry will secretly be happy enough with the way they have sneaked into this final without playing their best. No point playing your best footie in june.

If you think back to the Kerry - Mayo and Kilkenny - Limerick AI finals. 10 minutes of class and the games were realistaclly all over. I dont think Cork are able to produce this sort of class but i feel Kerry can turn on the class for 10 or 15 mins and then take control of the game.

I think Kerry to win by 6 or 7 points. But i really hope for a good clean game.

I've been at the Kerry - Mayo and Kilkenny - Limerick finals and it takes the fun and big day match fun out of it when its all over after 10 mins

Mr. Incognito

Anthony Lynch is out for next Sunday. I think Cork's chances just went "Poof".

On the flip side I see David Coldrick has been appointed the ref. He reffed the Kerry Monaghan game and I think he was useless.

D. Coughlan

SetantaL wrote:

Anthony Lynch is out for next Sunday. I think Cork's chances just went "Poof".

On the flip side I see David Coldrick has been appointed the ref. He reffed the Kerry Monaghan game and I think he was useless.

Lynch isn't a big of loss as Masters would be. Lynch is very good for making long runs, but we have plenty of players who are capable of that. Miskella will probaly come back to the defence, he is solid, so i'm not too worried about our defence. It's not certain that Masters will be back, we need him if for nothing else than his free taking. We hit some very bad wides from frees early in the first half and we can't afford that against Kerry

Mr. Incognito

I would disagree. Lynch picks up a lot of breaking ball and always gives an option. Those long runs are relieving pressure on the defense. He's also a leader on the field which Miskella won't be able to give.

Master is great from the ground, and god know with Coldrick reffing there will be a lot of stoppages- I think there were 64 frees in the Monaghan game.
When will the GAA get rid of appointing ref's on their seniority and start appointing on ability.

yayamark

i think corks chance has gone with anthony lynch been injured.

that fcuking ref he is useless absoloutely useless. he will ruin the ability of the game to flow. oh god i really cant believe it

blackbelt

yayamark wrote:

Cynical play? is this coming froma dub? if if if. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Not having a go at u blackbelt. It may have been a cynical foul by pulling the jersey but i dont think the whole game can come down to just that incident.

How about that O Leary gentleman. If he had been sent off when he should have been Kerry would have had an extra forward for how long? What difference would have that made to the score.

I really think these things even themselves over the course of the game.

I think either Kerry or Cork can win, but Kerry will secretly be happy enough with the way they have sneaked into this final without playing their best. No point playing your best footie in june.

If you think back to the Kerry - Mayo and Kilkenny - Limerick AI finals. 10 minutes of class and the games were realistaclly all over. I dont think Cork are able to produce this sort of class but i feel Kerry can turn on the class for 10 or 15 mins and then take control of the game.

I think Kerry to win by 6 or 7 points. But i really hope for a good clean game.

I've been at the Kerry - Mayo and Kilkenny - Limerick finals and it takes the fun and big day match fun out of it when its all over after 10 mins

Yayamark,I am not having a go at the Kerry team but I thought that when Cork played Kerry back in June,Cork were the stronger team.I thought it was the case where the stronger team actually lost.I am sure if the same happened to Kerry,the Kerry fans would be pointing these things out.I saw a Cork forward with a clear shot on goal get dragged back by the jersey.As you say,things even themselves out.The point I am making is that Cork will have to match Kerry in trying to get away with some things.

I do not think two wrongs make a right.To the best of my memory,I think Galvin put himself in a position where he could have been sent off?...but maybe I am wrong on that.

Also Yayamark,I would not be one bit surprised if Kerry win by 6 or 7 points but I honestly think we will see a game like Dublin v Kerry in regards to intensity and how close it will be.I have a suspicious feeling that Masters wont be a threat to Kerry as speculated if he makes it.His 45s have a tendency to drop short of the bar,so the Cork attack and Kerry defense will have to be very weary of this.

I think Kerry will win by 4 points.

GalwayDub2

Just got my tickets for the match 2 minutes ago
Are many of you travelling? I've heard that Sean Og has been on some radio station in Cork encouraging people to travel up to it!

Kojak

I think that if Cork were going to win this, then they would have needed all of their players. But with Lynch out and serious questiion marks over Masters, I feel the tide has shifted to Kerry.

Also, like Limerick and KK a few weeks ago, Kerry have the experience of being here before and they know what the days leading up to the final entail. For most of the cork team, its a new experience and we have seen many times that the underdogs tend to get caught up in media rubbish etc. that will IMO distract them.

Kerry by 5 points.

D. Coughlan

GalwayDub2 wrote:

Just got my tickets for the match 2 minutes ago
Are many of you travelling? I've heard that Sean Og has been on some radio station in Cork encouraging people to travel up to it!

I don't believe that Sean Og was any radio station trying to presuade Cork people to come up, tickets are scarce and there is never a shortage of people wanting to go to a final

Masters is starting after getting the all clear from the medical team, which is a huge boost. I still think Cork can win without Lynch if the rest of the players step up to the mark like they did against Meath in the semi. Kerry are not as good as last year and they are there for the taking if each player, plays to their full ability.

Cork by 2 points


( is there any way to start a poll in an existing thread or do you need to start a new one again)

GalwayDub2

D. Coughlan wrote:

I don't believe that Sean Og was any radio station trying to presuade Cork people to come up, tickets are scarce and there is never a shortage of people wanting to go to a final

Masters is starting after getting the all clear from the medical team, which is a huge boost. I still think Cork can win without Lynch if the rest of the players step up to the mark like they did against Meath in the semi. Kerry are not as good as last year and they are there for the taking if each player, plays to their full ability.

Cork by 2 points


( is there any way to start a poll in an existing thread or do you need to start a new one again)

Oh sure you may as well start a new one. I head that about sean og from my boss who is on the connaught council. Someone from down there was telling him that....dont know how true it is. UP CORK!:D

Mr. Incognito

Started a poll there. Save you the bother.

Orizio

I don't think Lynch's absence is that big of blow,whats more of a blow is that it will weaken our center forward line with Conor McCarthy coming in on the wing.We don't need someone who taddles so much on the ball playing against Kerry in croker.