3 Day Cut

mkdon05

Hey Guys and Gals,
I was wondering does anyone have an extreme diet that could be used to cut for 3 days? I have the workout side of things down, so i just need an eating plan that is extreme (only suitable for a very short time). I have heard in the past about combining certain foods that chemically react with each other to help cutting (not sure how true this is?)
All input appreciated!

Dragan

There is no such thing as a "3 day cut".

In three days, regardless of the diet you are on, all you will really be losing is stored glycogen and water.

Thats it. Try eating proper long term and see where that gets you.

mkdon05

Yea i understand about the long term thing, and as a whole i do try and follow it, but i have heard before of a diet that combines chemicals in the food, it was something like, spinach, black coffee, lemons, pork chops, etc.....
Just wondering did anyone else know anything about it.
Thanks anyway Dragan.


Edit- On reading your post again, i do tend to retain a lot of water. Any tips on this issue apart from drinking a sh1t load of water throughout the day?

Dragan

If your retaining a lot of water then look at your sodium ( salt ) intake.

That is normally the culprit there.

Niamho!

did a week of that Cereal Diet and lost half a stone.....in mostly fookin water! :mad:

mkdon05

Niamho! wrote:

did a week of that Cereal Diet and lost half a stone.....in mostly fookin water! :mad:

Well i wouldnt mind that either
Although i would be more lookin at fresh vegetables than Cereal, I think they hide a lot of fat and salt in them cereals. sneaky gikballs:D

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Sorry to move off topic but how do you know if the weight you're losing is water or not?
Also OP why only 3 days? are you cutting weight for a competition or something?

Vegeta

mkdon05 wrote:

Well i wouldnt mind that either
Although i would be more lookin at fresh vegetables than Cereal, I think they hide a lot of fat and salt in them cereals. sneaky gikballs:D

May I ask why you want to go on a 3 day cut.

Cutting for 3 days wont really do much for you bar what the guys have said.

Is there some form of competition coming where you have to weigh in under a certain weight or something?

Visually the difference will be practically nil i'd say

rubadub

mkdon05 wrote:

i have heard before of a diet that combines chemicals in the food, it was something like, spinach, black coffee, lemons, pork chops, etc.....

Probably some crap you often hear, "beyonce drinks maple syrup & lemon and loses 7lb a week".

I can "loose" 7lb in 24hrs, i.e. I can exert up to 7lb difference in force over 24hrs, nothing to do with fat loss though!

mkdon05 wrote:

On reading your post again, i do tend to retain a lot of water. Any tips on this issue apart from drinking a sh1t load of water throughout the day?

Is retaining water really a problem? (maybe for pro BBers). I would rather be 13 stone than 12.5stone dehydrated, just so some scale shows I weigh less, when I really know it is since I am dehyrdated.

do you know if the weight you're losing is water or not?

By measuring Body Fat %

mkdon05

If i can drop 5 pounds by friday morning, it means i drop from a heavyweight to a cruiserweight for boxing.

Dragan

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote:

Sorry to move off topic but how do you know if the weight you're losing is water or not?

It's really a time scale thing more than anything.

At the start of any dietary change, especially something that involves cleaning up a bad diet, or cutting carbs from an already good diet. By cleaning up a poor diet you are normally cutting out lots of sodium sources, which will reduce water rentention.

By cutting carbs, you are cutting down on stored muscle glycogen with needs to be stored with water within the muscles.

justsomebloke

when is the actual fight

justsomebloke

actually when you said you need to lose 5 pounds when did you last weigh yourself and at what point in the day

Roper

5 pounds isn't too hard to cut. Sauna suit or bin liner, plenty of layers and a run and you could do it in an hour the night before the weigh in. It can be dangerous though so make sure you do it safely and with proper instruction ie. not on some internet randomer's advice:D

Your coach should know how to do it safely and if he doesn't, just take your medicine for eating those burgers and fight at heavyweight.:D

mkdon05

theres no fight on as yet, but i want to be in the cruiserweight category which requires being at 200lbs or less by friday evening at 8. This is the same time that i weighed myself yesterday. I could always just jog for2 hours before the weight check in a jacket and lose water, but i may not get the time to do that.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

You're better off weighing your self at the same time every morning on an empty stomach after goiing to the jacks.
Its pretty unlikely you'll be eating too much before the weigh in so this will be closer to the weight you're gonna weigh in.
Try the Martial arts forum also, those guys are always cutting.
How long after the weigh in is the fight? I.e. if they're on the same night you wouldn't want to dehydrate yourself too much.

turbot

The only story I heard where someone pulled something like this off was a guy in the year above from my old school.

Over a bank holiday weekend, he went raving and danced all night thursday, friday, saturday and sunday night... and took speed and e to keep going.

He lost about a stone and was visibly very different... though I can't imagine thats a healthy way to go. I imagine that he probably lost as much muscle mass as he did body fat too.

rubadub

mkdon05 wrote:

If i can drop 5 pounds by friday morning, it means i drop from a heavyweight to a cruiserweight for boxing.

Didnt know you were into boxing, thought that would be teaching a granny how to suck eggs!
I can lose 7lb in 24hrs, if I had to for a fight I could probably do more. My weight is all over the place these days. As low as 11st 4lb and high as 12st1lb in the last 3 weeks.

Caffeine and alcohol are diuretics, they will make you piss more so deydrate you and empty your bladder. Evacuate bowels, bladder & stomach- on christmas night I could probably shift a stone doing all 3

Of course there will be a break even point, when you try and lose too much you will be worn out for the fight.

Hanley

Firstly, why did you leave it til 3 days before hand to start thinking about it?

Secondly, it's entirely possible to lose 15kg in 24 hours but unless you've 24 hours after that to rehydrate and carb up forget about it.

I've no problem losing 3kg in 24-48 hours and still being at full strenght 2 hours afterwards.

amazingemmet

Completely do able, as said above sweat suit and sauna the night before also get yourself some danedlion root from a health food shop its a natual dieurtic (sp?) will help you if you're holding some water.

mkdon05

Hanley wrote:

Firstly, why did you leave it til 3 days before hand to start thinking about it?

Secondly, it's entirely possible to lose 15kg in 24 hours but unless you've 24 hours after that to rehydrate and carb up forget about it.

I've no problem losing 3kg in 24-48 hours and still being at full strenght 2 hours afterwards.

It had just been mentioned to me to go for it, so deciding to give it a go!
Can you elaborate on your techniques for dropping the 15kgs in 24 hrs.

tribulus

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/cutting_weight.htm

This is how Kroc does it, lots of heat and sweating then gallons of liquid after weigh in.

mkdon05

tribulus wrote:

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/cutting_weight.htm

This is how Kroc does it, lots of heat and sweating then gallons of liquid after weigh in.

Cheers Tribulus

allabouttone

Why don't you try the sauna for 2 hrs a day and be on a water/ crackers diet -- my sister did that for a pageant and she dropped 15 lbs to get into this dress she wanted

Hanley

Trib posted the link I was going to. I'd just like to clarify and say it would be phenonmenally stupid to try and drop 15kg without having sufficent time to put it back on again because you're just asking for disaster if you do.


Get if off fast, put it back on even faster. That's the key to making weight.

Also, Sam Byrd, powerlifter, squats 1050lb at 198lb cut from abotu 250lb 3-4 weks before competition to 198 and still smashed the WR(of course he was probably 250lbs by the time he lifted...)