Marking schemes!!!

Carsinian Thau

Just saw on examinations.ie that the marking schemes will be up from the 27th of August.

I'm so happy, I could develop a new neurosis and spend the rest of my days vividly imagining my exam scripts while reading the schemes to see how I should have been graded....

ZorbaTehZ

OOh sounds good. Wouldn't mind having a look at those maths schemes.

sd123

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Wouldn't mind having a look at those maths schemes.

Why the maths ones???

ZorbaTehZ

Because I'm still kind of surprised I got an A1 in it lol.

cocoa

hmm, still no marking schemes... *feels cheated*

sd123

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Because I'm still kind of surprised I got an A1 in it lol.

I cant believe you said that, you're like THE best person on the LC forum at maths, and I got an A1.....

md99

Where are my schemes???? Come on already!

JC 2K3

I got an A2.

*cries.

AdMMM

cocoa wrote:

hmm, still no marking schemes... *feels cheated*

Well the site just says the week commencing the 27th. So they'll all be uploaded sometime during the week I would imagine.

Gangsta

sd123 wrote:

I cant believe you said that, you're like THE best person on the LC forum at maths, and I got an A1.....

what are ya saying? I'm the best;)

ZorbaTehZ

sd123 wrote:

I cant believe you said that, you're like THE best person on the LC forum at maths, and I got an A1.....

Gee, you're too nice. But seriously though, I thought my paper 1 was a load of bollox on the day. Paper 2 did go better, but this summer when I was doing estimates on my points and stuff, I always assumed that I was getting an A2 in it.

Corruptedmorals

Ah come one now, still not up!

ninebeanrows

Corruptedmorals wrote:

Ah come one now, still not up!

Yea annoying isn't it! I've been waiting for these for a good 2 months now!!!

And we need them for viewing on Friday

Would be nice to have a look before the rush of that 1 hour slot in school to look at marking schemes and your paper

Corruptedmorals

Even just English, Irish Maths today..and the rest phased out over next 3 days.

ninebeanrows

Looks like they will be going up tomorrow.

Emailed Examanations.ie, got this reply.

We expect to have the Marking schemes online by tomorrow. They will be uploaded, at the very latest, by Thursday to make them available for the viewing of the scripts (Friday, Saturday).

sd123

Gangsta wrote:

what are ya saying? I'm the best;)

No, Keep walking

D. Coughlan

Weathercheck wrote:

Looks like they will be going up tomorrow.

Emailed Examanations.ie, got this reply.

Well they are still not up this morning.

Corruptedmorals

They are now. Accounting as far as Business..

Thomas_S_Hunterson

But only business ordinary ffs;)

D. Coughlan

Come on, just put them all up I never did any of those subjects

ZorbaTehZ

Accounting, Agricultural Economics, Ancient Greek, Applied Mathematics, Art, Biology, Business(ordinary only atm), Chemistry, Classical Studies, Construction Studies, Economics, Engineering, ENGLISH, French, Irish up so far.
EDIT: A lot more up, go check here.

Applied Mathematics:
Honours
Ordinary

Biology:
Honours
Ordinary

Accounting:
Honours
Ordinary

Business:
Ordinary

EDIT:
Chemistry:
Honours
Ordinary

ECONOMICS:
Honours

ENGLISH:
Honours

FRENCH:
Honours
Ordinary

Geography:
Honours
Ordinary

IRISH:
Honours
Foundation
Ordinary

MATHEMATICS:
Honours
Ordinary(nvm the text)

PHYSICS:
Honours
Ordinary

Technical Drawing: <<<<<<<
Honours
Ordinary

Corruptedmorals

Classical and Construction now.

ninebeanrows

English will be out in a second, crucial for me.

Corruptedmorals

Come on English..

ninebeanrows

If it is the essay which screwed me over in my English i will be drawing to this point.

Candidates may refer formally to the text to which the composition is linked or they
may complete the composition assignment with reference to their own store of
knowledge/reference/experience

thus this heading can clearly be interpreted in whichever way i interpret it.

Write a magazine article (serious or light-hearted) entitled: “The Modern Shopping
Centre”.
Reward a clearly established and sustained register. A personal or impersonal approach is
acceptable.

I am angered that i got a D2 in my English, after reading this marking scheme and looking back at my paper from memory i would have expected a C2 at least.

Aoibheann

It's really weird looking at all the marking schemes.. I can barely remember answering any of the papers!

ZorbaTehZ

Pretty much everything is up now, except for a few specific levels like in Business.

Corruptedmorals

I think I know what swung me the A1 in English.

Short story- candiates may refer to the image(s) only implicitly.

Unseen poetry- Is basically a reading test. Do not expect lengthy answers.

D. Coughlan

Oh, i really regret looking at the Geog Higher marking scheme. On Q11 C, I described two urban problems in huge detail and thought I would get close to 80 in that question. Now, i look at the marking scheme and you needed to discuss one problem and one opportunity. It was in the question all right, not very clearly thought, I just saw problems and rambled on with what I had learned. it says I can only get 5 SRP's max. Fcuk it, it probaly cost me a grade and five points, and i missed my course by 10, fcuk,fcuk can't do anything about it now though. now i know how i only got a B3.

PS would they ever just put up higher Business

carlowboy

Just looked at Physics....still have no idea how I got an A1.

Aoibheann

carlowboy wrote:

Just looked at Physics....still have no idea how I got an A1.

Join the club!

JC 2K3

Ah, I actually did a lot better in App Maths than I thought, having looked at that marking scheme. My A2 was justified it seems. Question 2 let me down. I think I was fairly close to getting 1(b)(ii) - I thought I was miles off.

Papers will be interesting to see on Saturday..

EDIT: Ha! Physics Q3 - what was all that bs about having to have the line cutting the X and Y axises about?

ZorbaTehZ

I thought that they were extremely fair with Physics tbh, if you look at the graph on question 3 and 4 they accepted a lot of things that I thought they wouldn't, and look at that question that everyone was kicking a fuss up about on question 2 where they did the same. Another question they were very fair on was the Charges question (think it was Q7?).

Tech Drawing - PII question 1 didn't get heavily adjusted as I thought. The roads question, they were very fair with too.

Haven't really looked at any others yet except maths, which was ok I thought.

carlowboy

JC 2K3 wrote:

Ah, I actually did a lot better in App Maths than I thought, having looked at that marking scheme. My A2 was justified it seems. Question 2 let me down. I think I was fairly close to getting 1(b)(ii) - I thought I was miles off.

Papers will be interesting to see on Saturday..

EDIT: Ha! Physics Q3 - what was all that bs about having to have the line cutting the X and Y axises about?

It's that 1/f = the point where it cuts the axis.

JC 2K3

Yup, but the marking scheme says you can jst get the average value.

carlowboy

Yeah, probably because the SEC only checked the syllabus after sending out the exam!

Gangsta

JC 2K3 wrote:

Yup, but the marking scheme says you can jst get the average value.

There are usually alternate answers which are quite acceptable.

sd123 wrote:

No, Keep walking

me challenges you to a maths test!:D

Aoibheann Brady wrote:

Join the club!

Hey, post your support for an RCSI forum:) http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055138705

sd123

Gangsta wrote:

me challenges you to a maths test!:D

Bring it on BITCH....:cool:
Lets find out what % you got in maths when you know :rolleyes:

JC 2K3

I'll set the first question:

Find the value of the square root of 2 using a MacLaurin series.

ZorbaTehZ

Omg such nerds ...

(I'm putting my money on sd123 mwahaha :cool:)

Aoibheann

Gangsta wrote:

Hey, post your support for an RCSI forum:) http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055138705

Done! *crosses fingers that it works*

sd123

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Omg such nerds ...

yea, pretty nerdy, believe it or not, i know the answer to 9 decimal places off by heart, but no way of proving it here

(I'm putting my money on sd123 mwahaha :cool:)

is that my reward for saying that YOU were the best at maths:)

off i go to try to remember how to do maclaurin seres. answer to come soon hopefully:rolleyes:

ZorbaTehZ

Gangsta wrote:

Hey, post your support for an RCSI forum:) http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055138705

Ghey.

Gangsta

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Ghey.

What?

sd123

JC 2K3 wrote:

I'll set the first question:

Find the value of the square root of 2 using a MacLaurin series.

Ok, if anyone remotely cares, i went as far as (x^12)/12! and got 1.420916804.

v--2 = 1.414213562 on a calculator

JC 2K3

No, not accurate enough I'm afraid.

(lol, the only reason I asked that was because root2 is something like 150 digits long )

Thomas_S_Hunterson

JC 2K3 wrote:

(lol, the only reason I asked that was because root2 is something like 150 digits long )

It's irrational, it goes on forever

dan719

JC 2K3 wrote:

No, not accurate enough I'm afraid.

(lol, the only reason I asked that was because root2 is something like 150 digits long )

*Cough* Root 2 is irrational so it cannot be written down*cough*

JC 2K3

hmmm... where did I hear it was 150 digits then?

meh.

genericgoon

I assume they were looking for an approximate value in the question.

dan719

You can prove that it's irrational using the method of infinite descent.(a particular case of proof by contradiction)
Assume root two can be written as a fraction
E.g p/q
But this must be divisible by two (because p/q all to be squared is equal to two)
Therefore root two is equal to p/2x and this can be repeated ad infinitum. But we cannot simplify fractions for ever- therefore this is a contradiction, therefore root two can't be written as a fraction and is irrational.
p.S I don't know if it was Fermat who proved the irrationality of root two but it was he who turned the method of infinite descent into such a powerful tool.