keto diets

juanveron45

what are peoples opinions here of keto diets?

Hanley

They're a great way of getting ready for a bodybuilding show. They work best if you've good underlying musculatre. They're incredibly hard both mentally and phsyically. You need a lot of dedication to stick with them.

Guess that rules some people out.

juanveron45

There not something then you can maintain for life I suppose hanley?

Hanley

juanveron45 wrote:

There not something then you can maintain for life I suppose hanley?

A TRUE ketogenic diet?

Unless you want to walk around in a perma-daze with a complete lack of energy, no.

juanveron45

Do you think carb cycling is a good approach where you cut carbs from your 5th and 6th meals and eat only fats and proteins and green veg

g'em

juanveron45 wrote:

There not something then you can maintain for life I suppose hanley?

juanveron they're very severe. Keto diets are short-term fat-loss attacks, and not designed for long term use. Essentially the first couple of weeks of the Atkins Diet is a keto diet, but even at you start to introduce carbs again once your initial phase of a couple of weeks is over.

Within the first few days you can expect light-headedness, a 'foggy' brain, bad breath, nausea, inability to concentrate... and there's lots more besides. I've done a true keto diet, and it sucks!!

Even with high protein, high fat diets like the Anabolic Diet there's a periodic carb-up involved, and with Atkins the gradual re-introduction of carbs measn you don't stay in keto for long.

I can understand why you're asking about the diet, but I honestly don't think that a keto-diet is for you. The Anabolic Diet on the other hand could be very manageable, or even the Paleo Diet. Both are high protein and lower in carbs and a lot of people have seen great results from them.

But if I can be very honest for a minute, I think the biggest issue you have right now is just being consistent and patient. I know you got a lot of stick on one of the other threads, but that's because it seems that your posts are always looking for quick fixes or the easy way out. Perhaps that's not the case, but I'd hazard a guess that if you keep asking about weight-loss, you haven't quite achieved the results you want yet?

I takes time and reading and application. There's plenty of resources out there, not least the stickies. If something looks to good to be true, it probably is - eating well is a 24/7 thing. I'm not saying we're all compeltely anal and we don't enjoy chocolate/ a drink (or more) or what have you, but for hte most part we find something we can manage and we stick to it. It's simplistic, but it works

Hanley

juanveron45 wrote:

Do you think carb cycling is a good approach where you cut carbs from your 5th and 6th meals and eat only fats and proteins and green veg

I have no idea. I wouldn't call that carb cycling tho. I'd call it carb tapering. To me cycling implies consistent upwards and downwards movements day to day changes. Not intra-day changes or just reducing the number of carbs you eat as the day progress and then starting all over again the next day (I am a fan of tapering tho).

What I REALLY think is that if you picked the first diet you ever posted here (to be honest I can't even remember what it was) and stop worrying about whether X is better than Y you'd be in alot better shape already.

Everyone wants to find what's ideal. But tbh "ideal" doesn't fcuking mattter. Just pick something, put the effort in, stop talking, start doing and change when you stop seeing results.

There I was nice.

Jessibelle

sorry to butt in, I don't mean to hijack, but I just wanted to ask abouy the "Fuzzy headedness" mentioned above?? Someone close to me does the Atkins regualry and has mentioned this, but he also carrys on as normal while doing the diet. would the fuzziness ever be bad enough to endanger him, say make him lightheaded when driving???

BTW have been following the stickys advice for the last 6 weeks, possibly one of the best things I've done in a while

g'em

I'm not a doctor by any means, but the fuzzy headedness that's usually reported is more of a lack of concentration - not as severe as the feeling you have when you get drowsy from certain medications, you just don't feel particularly sharp- I know I found it hard to concentrate on anything for prolonged periods of time. But afaik there's no associated risks for driving.

Ketogenesis is just an 'alternative' route for your metabolism, where it starts to break down fats and proteins for energy instead of carbs. It can take a few days for this shift to happen completely, so lots of people say they spend the first few days of a keto diet in a bit of a dream-world. But once you get past those first few days the fuzzy head tends to wane.

Jessibelle wrote:

BTW have been following the stickys advice for the last 6 weeks, possibly one of the best things I've done in a while

Absoltuely delighted to hear it

Jessibelle

Ta G'em! Much appreciated, have to admit to a bit of worry there for a second:o