Height issue (one for the women and men)

LegacyUser

I have a big issue with my height.
I’m a 24 year old male, and in bear foot I’m around 5’6, maybe 5’7, and for the past few years I’ve been very self conscious about my height.

I hate looking at myself in the mirror bear foot as I look soo short.
I wear shoes with lifts, they bring my height up to about 5’11 and sometimes 6 foot.
I have tons of shoes and boots with lifts, the problem is I wear them all the time, so much no one actually knows my true height.. Not even my girlfriend, I can’t remember the last time I stood bare foot next to another person!!

It can be upsetting sometimes. All I wanna do is buy some cool shoes or heaven forbid comfortable shoes, but I cant, I can only wear boots with lifts.. The idea of wearing flat shoes in public scares me half to death!

Is there any short guys out there with the same problem? How do you deal with it?

And girls? How do you feel about shorter blokes as boyfriends?

biko

I thought average height for Irish men was aprox 5'8?
Most women are 5'5 or thereabouts so you're still taller.

Do you hang out with tall people now, is that why you have become self concious?

Btw, short thread in AH http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055136316

dlofnep

I'm 5'4" - Don't worry about your height. Just get used to it. You're not even short. Relax, it make you unique. Just be outgoing iwht your personality, you'll make up for it.

the_syco

... I fail to see your point. I'm 6 foot 6 and usually see women with blokes their own height.



Oh, and OT, but I wish I was 2 inches smaller. I wouldn't hit my head off so many doors whilst drunk (esp the bus door whilst getting off the nightlink).

2Scoops

It's obvious to me that you care far too much about something you can't change. Why is your height so tied in to your self-identity?

You are short (somewhat). You can't do anything about it no matter how much you hate it. It appears to be making you miserable and so it's beating you x8. Just accept it. And if you can't may I humbly suggest you may have deeper insecurity issues that need professional treatment.

simu

You're not that short - Irish men tend not to be too tall anyways.

Do the lifting boots not look really obvious or strange? I'd say you'd be better off wearing normal ones and not worrying about your height.

K-9

simu wrote:

You're not that short - Irish men tend not to be too tall anyways.

Do the lifting boots not look really obvious or strange? I'd say you'd be better off wearing normal ones and not worrying about your height.

Have to say by wearing them you are seriously bringing attention (or will) to the height issue. Bono and Tom Cruise look ridiculous with these things on.

cowzerp

you wear shoes that bring you up to 6 foot? this is making you look stupid, 6 inch lifts, im 5'7 and actually like my height-tall is awkward imho-im taller than most girls too so have no problem there-by the way you say your 5,7 that more than likely means your 5,6 as most people add an inch on-i measure people daily and about 90% think there 1 inch taller! get over it as its something you have to live with-look for positives instead of negatives.

Ekancone

cowzerp wrote:

you wear shoes that bring you up to 6 foot? this is making you look stupid, 6 inch lifts, im 5'7 and actually like my height-tall is awkward imho-im taller than most girls too so have no problem there-by the way you say your 5,7 that more than likely means your 5,6 as most people add an inch on-i measure people daily and about 90% think there 1 inch taller! get over it as its something you have to live with-look for positives instead of negatives.

Pfff, im 6'4" and i wouldnt change it for the world, the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. Btw OP, it sounds like you have major issues with this, i mean if you cant be honest with your g/f who can you be? I would suggest seeing a counsellor to work on these issues, i cant imagine wearing lifts will do your back/legs good over the long-term.

EDO

Jeez Dude - what are you worrying about?

at 5.6/5.7 you are looking down on over 50% of humanity as it is!

Im 5.5 - 5.5 1/2 depending what way the wind is blowing and I cant say it has ever been an issue for me.
Can only remember one lady - who had a good 4 inches on me - saying she didnt go for short guys - mind you she was still saying the same thing to me 4 hours later in my bed - heh heh

I've always been the last ribena berry in the bunch - my dad is 6ft - the brothers - both younger are 5.9 and 6.2 respectively. then again I was a premature by a month (was a very gymnastic baby in the womb - so much so that I got my umbilical cord wrapped around my neck - thus the fast evacuation - yeah theres a years worth of therapy in that alone!:D ) so I 've always been playing catch up! - its never been an issue and its never stopped me doing anything I've wanted to do - played centre half in soccer and captained both my school and unversity - timing and technique is everything!

Dont worry about it - the media is full of ****e about size and height etc etc - this survey says this and that - but as a fully paid up member of the management technocracy in this country - statistics and surveys are great - they can tell anything you want them to tell.

seeing as leg extensions are about 20 years away at least as a cosmetic surgery exercise - concentrate on building up something that will change your life for the better - your confidence not your height.

dont worry about Daithi and rest of the thin air breathers up there - God love them they need every little advantage they can get;)

PS - BTW - I have just put through our bi-annual order for safety gear for the engineers and technicians in the company I work for. Funny thing is the last time I had to order safety shoes - 2 years ago - I went around and got the sizes off the boys - this time , Karolina , my PA (who is a looker!) did the job and guess what? - over 75% of the lads are ordering shoes 1 - 2 sizes bigger than 2 years ago!!!!!:D

Ya gotta laugh man!

Bendihorse

As i said in other post, my OH is 5ft6 and i wouldn't change him... im 5ft8! Im not into 'Tall Guys', anything over 6ft would really be too tall for me. Most of my friends would say 'i love taller men' but 90% of them are with guys under 6ft.
Irish guys are not 'tall' per se anyway so stop beating your self up about it, Embrace it! My guy gets chatted up loads when hes out, you just got to let your sparkle shine (all smaller guys have it - thats why i love em!)

Also iv asked him how he feels about me being taller than him and also wearing heels to add to the difference, he says he couldn't care less and that its quite funny to see the reaction of guys lookin at me coming in to a pub and then seeing him coming behind me holding my hand, its a look of WTF If i see it too ill always plant him one and smile demurely

Micamaca

As a woman, would have to say would find any guy wearing heel lifts or whatever you call them a big turn off! :eek: I agree, Tom Cruise looks ridiculous in those things. It points to the fact that you're not comfortable with yourself.

Number one rule...learn to love yourself, warts and all. Then someone else will learn to love you for you. Sincerity and confidence are a big turn on in my book.

Besides as other readers have pointed out, you're the same height as a lot of Irish guys here.

Your problem is not your height, it's your self confidence. Work on that instead.

Drift

EDO wrote:

.....EDO's post......

Best post I've read in a long time in PI ..... take EDO's advice OP he seems to have an excellent take on it.

Judes

I'm a 5'11" female - so the average shoe adds an extra inch or two. When I was younger I heard every smart comment going when I entered a bar, walked down the street, as I was taller than most men around me - and definitely any other girls. Then one day I thought to myself what the hell - why am I apologising for being longer legged then most, I'm tall and that's that! I stopped stooping, I went out and bought loads of shoes with very high heals and I strutted around the place at about 6'2", I thought - well if they're going to shout out after me - I may as well give them something to see! Of course I became a master at one line deliveries and so the smart comments stopped. Several years later I walk loud and proud and only stoop when there's a low flying sign.

So, you're the opposite end of the scale -but at least people don't shout out smart comments after guys who are shorter. Firstly, take those stupid lifts out of your shoes. People are not going to like you because you are a certain height - they'll like you for you. But by the sounds of things - you're going to have to learn to like yourself first.

Being short didn't do Dudley Moore any harm and Jamie Callum is now dating Sophie Dahl!!! Look at Rod Stewart and Penny Lancaster. Again I'm going for extremes here of tall girl short guy - but look at most women out there - they are short and you're "medium". Stop worrying about how you think you look or others would view you, just enjoy being you. And remember you never have to worry about ducking in a supermarket/bus/beamed bar!!! (And when you forget it damn well hurts).

The Sparrow

Op your name isn`t George Costanza by any chance??:D

Nah only messing... Just don`t worry about it. I`m 6'6 so kinda have the opposite problem but I just don`t worry about it. Some ppl have hang ups about height but tbh forget them! Oh and I would lose the lifts... I`m sure everybody you know realises that your wearing them and would prob respect you more if you didn`t!

Black Swan

I'm a bit tall. Dated a lad who was shorter. When his mates would kid him, he would give me a hug and say to them, "More for me!"

eburns

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Talliesin

Judes wrote:

but at least people don't shout out smart comments after guys who are shorter

Of course the do. People shout out smart comments after people who are more or less X than they are for all values of X. Probably the same twats that shouted comments at you.

And unfortunately this sort of thing can bring people down. It could be because of this that the OP thinks he's short (he's not even particularly short FFS).

If nothing else, you can always take comfort in the fact that you aren't someone whose self-esteem depends upon shouting "witty" comments at strangers. And if you did your "witty" comment might actually be witty. Also, that you don't think gold chains go well with sportswear (strangely generally seems to be the case, maybe it's the other way around and wearing a gold chain with sportswear makes you shout comments at people).

dudara

@ eburns Helpful comments only please. Take the time to read the forum charter

dudara

GhostInTheRuins

You're hardly short in fairness. I'm 5'3" and I wouldn't change that for anything. Like someone said, wearing shoes with lifts will just make you look stupid (unless they're MBTs or something) so try to cut that out, go and buy some comfortable shoes. I still don't understand why are you ashamed of your height.

sugarattack

Wear normal shoes. Nobody respects a man in short arse lifts.

Nothing else to really advise but to just accept the hand you were dealt and don't dwell on it. Everybody has their shortcomings.

Awayindahils

My boyfriends 6"4 and a half and I'm 5"5 and half. If I'm not wearing at least 3 inch heels when I kiss him I topple over. Well if we're both standing anyway. There are pros and cons to both. My uncle is only about 5"7 and is hugely successful CEO. i've never seen him in a pair of lifts ever. Just accept your height.

LegacyUser

'Post re Dudley Moore was not meant to be smart. Point was he is successful and his height does not stop him cos he does not let it'

BrianD3

Quite interesting to see the difference between this thread and the thread in AH. TBH I think the reassurance in this thread is a bit unrealistic. There is no doubt in my mind that most women prefer tall guys and that it is high on their list of priorities. Studies have even shown this. Another thing is that women can claim they don't go for tall men but always seem to end up with tall men, it is an instinctive/sub conscious thing for them and they can't help it.

It doesn't mean that shorter men are undateable but that it is a definite disadvantage for them. And there is no point saying stuff like Tom Cruise is short and he doesn't have any difficulty. Anyone should be able to see how irelevant Tom Cruise is to the average male.

When I was in secondary school (mixed sex) it was an eye opener to watch the treatment of short lads There is no political correctness in school and teenagers revert to animal/instinctive behviour. Shorter lads were not respected and were inevitably the ones getting bullied by the taller jocks. Shorter lads got slagged about their height and told they were pathetic weakings by girls, it was also implied that because they were short they must also have small dicks. They were occcasionally slagged by teachers too. Then if the short guys got annoyed or tried to fight back they were either laughed at or ridiculed for "angry short man syndrome". They were also not encouraged into sports like GAA which lets face it is the biggest sport in this country. If gymnastics or weightlifting (sports where shortness can be a big advantage) were major sports in this country then maybe short men would be respected more.

This sort of stuff is not as obvious among adults but it's still there below the surface. Only recently some lad in work who's about 5'5" was being laughed at behind his back after he bought a BMW 5 series. The comments made included "how can he see out of it" and "typical shortarse compensating with a big car".

Wibbs

I have to agree with BrianD3. It is an issue. But it's an issue that you can overcome. Anyway there's nothing you can do about it so acceptance is the first step. Wearing high heels is just silly too. Stop that at least.

Cateym

I come from a long line of shorties and it hasn't stopped any of us getting what we want.

I'm 5'3" and my fiancee is 5'4", we get all the munchkin jokes etc but f**k it I couldn't give a toss!! Both of us are working away in our careers and it hasn't affected us one bit. Why should it???

My dad is about 5'5" and my mom is 4'11". I have a sister who's 4'11" and another who's about 4'9" and both are fully grown. Both working away fine in their chosen careers.

My brothers are both somewhere between 5'5" and 5'7" and neither of them has ever had any probs with work or women!!

rebelcork

Could be worse you could have ginger hair as well as being small!!!:D

BaZmO*

Cateym wrote:

I have a sister who's 4'11" and another who's about 4'9" and both are fully grown. Both working away fine in their chosen careers.

As jockeys?

celt262

does ur foot look like a bear 's foot ?

Ekancone

rebelcork wrote:

Could be worse you could have ginger hair as well as being small!!!:D

Cackle!

EDO

Isn't it interesting that the ones who bang on about the tall/short thing the most are nearly always those from the higher end of the stratosphere??

In need of a bit of reassurance lads?:;) - I mightn't be as good looking,confident, witty and intelligent - but hey Im tall so na na na na

OP - sticks and stones mate - leave the whole "I want to be big" ****e behind you- it should finish at end of your adolescence - tho when you choose to end your adolescence is up to you - get rid of the platforms - they only work for seriously loaded media stars who are surrounded by people who are paid to be nice to them - stand on your own two feet!

Anyway what women say they want and what they actually do are parallel universes! - At 5.5 Im a living sex god in my own lifetime

You could be worse off - volunteer for the Simon community or take a trip to a third world country - you think you have problems - they are really really small (xuse the pun!) potatoes in the Grand sphere of things.

Dont let the bastards drag you down!

Have a nice day!!!

LegacyUser

'Im about the same height as yourself 5'6-5'7 and my gf of 4 years is about an inch taller than me. Its not going to stop you pulling wimmin. there might be other factors that might but this alone shouldnt turn them off.

Hey if your really worried about it have a look at this.

http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/procedure.html'

Marcus.Aurelius

I'm 6.1 and my wife is 5.10 but height was never an issue.

Judes

EDO has kept me amused - but I wasn't a "na, na, na, na, na I'm a Tall Girl", I was trying to point out that I had to learn to accept that I was a bit different too!!!

Hey, I ended up in hospital for a Bank Holiday weekend years ago, because I forgot to duck under an archway in my parents place - seriously, I ended up with a light concussion. So you think it's easy being tall - well introduce me to a shorter person who's ever had that worry.

Infact I'm now rubbing my head and reliving that moment........... J

EDO

Judes wrote:

EDO has kept me amused - but I wasn't a "na, na, na, na, na I'm a Tall Girl", I was trying to point out that I had to learn to accept that I was a bit different too!!!

Hey, I ended up in hospital for a Bank Holiday weekend years ago, because I forgot to duck under an archway in my parents place - seriously, I ended up with a light concussion. So you think it's easy being tall - well introduce me to a shorter person who's ever had that worry.

Infact I'm now rubbing my head and reliving that moment........... J

Hey Judes - Sorry - wasn't dissing the ladies! - just the lads:)

Sorry for your troubles - but can't say I have the faintest idea what it feels like -

Yep- us vertically challenged chancers are secretly taking over the world and changing it to suit our needs and wishes!!

think Im kidding - just look at the size of the average new build/apt in Dublin - Tallies - time to stand up (heh heh) for your rights!!!:D

Grand - Im def gone this time!

BrianD3

EDO wrote:

Isn't it interesting that the ones who bang on about the tall/short thing the most are nearly always those from the higher end of the stratosphere??

I don't know if I'm one of the ones that's been been banging on but much of what I wrote about the slaggin etc. applies to myself and i'm 5 foot 9.5. Most women regard me as "short" even though stats would show i'm fairly average. Would agree with the comments that huge lifts for the OP are a bad idea but at the same time when I'm picking out shoes for myself the first thing I look for is a good thick sole

It is quite interesting that some of the posters in this thread who say that size doesn't really matter are sportsmen.
EDO - captain of his university soccer team
Cowzerp - well known boxer
Dlofnep - big into his martial arts

I don't think you lads are representative of most shorter men. IME women go mad for anyone that takes part in a physical sport with rugby players and boxers being well favoured. Also I've never met a boxer that wasn't super confident. Rugby front rows may tend to be on the short side but nobody's going to question your masculinity if you play prop forward

If you are short and are neither rich, nor good at the above sports (lets face it not everyone is cut out for them) then I reckon shortness is a significant issue

Talliesin

BrianD3 wrote:

When I was in secondary school (mixed sex) it was an eye opener to watch the treatment of short lads There is no political correctness

Yes, but also in secondary school you are in a totally artificial environment with very little of real importance to do except for exams - which everyone else is also doing, so you aren't carving your own niche in the world.

It's much more important in school to be of average or just above-average height, heterosexual, have mainstream interests, middle-of-the-road tastes, follow the same fashions as your peers and so on.

In the real world the closest we have to that are skangers (similar fear of any indicator of someone being unusual or original) and people who have made a great failure of their subsequent life and have nothing to hold on to but their halcyon days in school.

Cake Fiend

Let's do a quick comparison.

Guy who's 5'7: nothing hugely out of the ordinary.
Guy who's 5'7 but wearing lifts: saddo.

I guarantee you people will think less of you for wearing these silly shoes than because of your height.

LegacyUser

'First of all I’ll like to thank everyone who posted with kind words of reassurance and support.

I feel humbled known there are a lot shorter guys out there, and I know in the grand scheme of things, worrying about your height is pointless when there’s so much suffering in the world.. But it still doesn’t change the fact I do worry about it a lot.

I’ve noticed how almost everyone picks up on the shoe lifts and comments on how ridiculous they must look, and people must know I wear them.

well the fact is, no one knows I use them. I don’t walk around on platforms or anything like that.
The lifts are hidden inside the shoes, I mean take a look around the net, you can find many websites who retail a lot of these shoes in tons of different styles and no one is the wiser to who's wearing them.

Believe me, no one knows!

I also wear baggy jeans, which helps even more to cover up any telltale signs.

I just feel I’m facing a brick wall.
I’ve nearly convinced myself I’m 6 foot, it’s crazy.
If I was to stop wearing lifts and sorted myself out with normal flat shoes, well for a start, none of my jeans or clothes would fit or sit right anymore.. I don’t know, I know it’s far from normal and maybe professional help wouldn’t be a bad idea. But I wanna stop, and that's part of the reason for posting here.
I just fell inadequate and well.. Small without the lifts.
I feel people won't take me seriously in my future carer or social life.

And a guys height is a MAJOR issue with women, I’ve seen it a million times.

Example, I was in a club a few weeks back and bumped into an old school friend, at some point during the conversation she commented on how tall and broad I’d become and make a comment on how I use to be a right little short ass!
It’s the same with guys, ever notice how some drunk piss head starts agro with a shorter guy before a taller one on a Saturday night.
Guys always tend to target the short guys and use them to score points.

Take that celebrity heights website. What is the point of that site, a website which soul purpose is finding out the heights of celebrities?!

It’s cause people want to say, ‘hell he might be Brad Pitt, every woman may want him, he may be worth millions, but **** him, I’m taller so ha!’

Am I wrong?

I'm sorry if I come across like an asshole guys, I'm just scared '

FranchisePlayer

I suppose it may take time t get over the hang up but i reckon you should lose the lifts...
I myself am 6'1(dad is 6'3 and a half):eek: and am only 15 so still gonna grow for a long time I had a hang up about it was at one a stage called lanky ginger c*nt but then I thought **** it I am who I am and just get on with it..

seahorse

I dont think the OP has anything to worry about; I've always found the idea of having to lean down a bit to kiss a man quite erotic. It's never happened as I'm 5.7 myself and most men I meet are a couple of inches taller than that, but yeah; actually man of 5.6 wouldnt be short-arsed enough to fulfill the requirements of my fantasy, he'd need to be an inch or two shorter than that (dont tease me about it please - I already know it's about as innocent as it gets as far as fantasies go! )

Oh and I'll tell you what certainly wouldn't do it for me OP; those bloody awful 'lift' shoes! I'm sorry, but all I can say to that is - uuuurrrrgh! A sense of inner confidence is very important as far as attractive features in a person go, and whacking six inches onto your height with those ridiculous shoes just screams the opposite. I'd strongly advise you to throw out those shoes and just get on with being yourself. Anyone who's going to judge you on the basis of your height is ignorant enough as not to warrant being in your life in the first place, and as for what women are thinking; well, I hope this post has proven you might be surprised what's on a womans mind!

Civilian_Target

There's no point in lying about it, height is attractive. But so is good skin, and I don't have that. Fact is, being reasonably happy with who you are, and good company will get your further than a few inches of height, and certainly will be more attractive than lifts in your shoes.

I saw someone's sig. the other day that said "When life deals you lemons, bring out the Bacardi and Coke" and that's pretty much it. There's nothing you can do about your height so...

Judes wrote:

Stop worrying about how you think you look or others would view you, just enjoy being you. And remember you never have to worry about ducking in a supermarket/bus/beamed bar!!! (And when you forget it damn well hurts).

The Sweeper

okay - if women have a problem with your being short, they're being stupid.

I'm 5ft 7". In high heels (which I wear a lot), I'm 5ft 10". My husband is 5 ft 7 and a half. He has no problem with me being taller than him when we're out and neither do I. In fact, he actively encourages me to wear my high heels when we're out and about.

I tend to go for them short and buff anyway - taller guys are just a lot of effort. Gotta reach up for a snog etc - can't be having it. Frankly the shorter they are, the more bits they can work simultaneously. (I'm not going to get more specific than that, lest I get beaten with the ban stick.

Micamaca

The TALL Guy wrote:

I’ve noticed how almost everyone picks up on the shoe lifts and comments on how ridiculous they must look, and people must know I wear them.
well the fact is, no one knows I use them. '

The point is you know you wear them. But then I suppose some women wear loads of colour on their faces to project another image and that's kind of the same thing. I guess I'm not as used to men doing something like that. But it's a similar story. Sometimes I too would like to be taller but I don't even wear heels as they're uncomfortable. So I put up with being shorter.

But I think the fact that you're buying clothes that don't fit your height is a sign that you do have a serious issue with your height. But is this something you want to continue for the next 40 or 50 years? Wouldn't you rather see yourself happy and comfortable in your own self? It will take work but you can start today. Take baby steps. Maybe get used to seeing yourself at home without the heel lifts. Then venture out to the local shop.

The fact is we all have something we would like to change, maybe quite a few things. But you have to accept what you cannot change. Make peace with your height, you're only making yourself unhappy by continuing to keep up a pretense.

The TALL Guy wrote:

And a guys height is a MAJOR issue with women, I’ve seen it a million times.

Example, I was in a club a few weeks back and bumped into an old school friend, at some point during the conversation she commented on how tall and broad I’d become and make a comment on how I use to be a right little short ass!

Would you really care about something she thought? Why? She doesn't sound like a nice person, that would never be a nice thing to say to someone. Back-handed compliments, hate dem!
Learn to care more about what you think than what others think. Buy a good self-help book or something. Those things can be powerful for some people! Best of luck with it.

patrickolee

OP, if it really does bother you, you could consider getting leg extensions. There was a program about it recently on tv. A girl who wanted to be a air hostess in the UK and fell short of the height requirement. If memory serves, it envolved having her legs broken and streched. I think she gained a couple of inches. Bit extreme in my opinion, but if it bothers you sufficently then...

rainbow kirby

5'6" here - if I'm with a guy, I do prefer him to be taller than me.

LegacyUser

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

I'm 5ft 7". In high heels (which I wear a lot), I'm 5ft 10". My husband is 5 ft 7 and a half.

Don't forget that all important half an inch!!!

OP if any girl has an issue with dating you because you're shorter than her then do you really want to date such a shallow bitch?

cotwold

Ive always found short guys hoter than tall ones, im 6'3" tho so you can imagine how it can lead to problems tho. Tbh i dont really think 5'7" is that short at all

EDO

OP - I dont know what to say to you.

You have serious confidence issues that you are directing solely into the issue you have with your height. Maybe you should go and talk to somebody about it - its would appear to go a lot deeper than the fact you're 5.6-7 whatever.

Listen up

Going back to when I was much shorter than the towering 5.5 I stand today - back to when I was 12 and fully paid up member of the Smurfs. I was about to go to second level education - I presumed I would go to same single sex boys school that my dad had gone to before - but there was an abrupt change of plan - the local convent decided to go co-ed that year and I was signed up straight away.

Yep 12 boys (all 1st years) and 350 women and I also happened to be the son of the vice principal / head of discipline (father) (had him for Sex Ed. - that was good!) and the most reviled and feared female teacher in the school (my mum).

To say it was a baptism of fire would be an understatement - my abiding memory of my first few weeks in that school would be being chased by 5th and 6th year girls - caught - and hung over the bridge across the little river that passed thru the grounds (feckin nuns and their fancy landscaping!) , upside down with my nose being dipped in the water until I cracked - didn't crack so they let me drop and I ended up in front of my old man, soaking wet, on detention - but they never did to me again! I didn't crack!.

I was also the Mayor of MunchkinLand in the "Wizard of OZ" school play (had an up and down thespian career in the school )- the following year was the sacrificial lamb in "Joseph" - when you have a 10 second appearance running around on all fours - wrapped in 2 sheepskin rugs before proceeding to have living daylights bet out of you by 15 women dressed up as men with sticks - you know things can only get better!! - I was a very cute Oliver in "Oliver Twist" the following year - the fan mail from the local 7-10 year old girls was overwhelming! . With all the slagging I got for ,going to a girls school, being the teachers' son, my height and my sissy acting - at that most awkward and sensitive age - I should have left that school emotionally scarred for life!

but I didn't - I just did my own thing and F**k the begrudgers - dont ask me where that confidence came from , and there were tears on occasion I wont deny- But i went on to UNI , have travelled and worked on 4 different continents and dated and loved women of all different shapes,sizes and colours and the only time I wish I was taller is at last orders in a busy Irish country pub!

You are obsessing over your height - very male attribute that, obsessing - it would appear to the detriment of the rest of you and is physically and emotionally draining. The fact that you are assuming what other people (particularly women) are thinking and saying shows you are obsessing!!

As some of the previous posters have pointed out - get involved in something sporty (martial arts maybe - Im starting Aikido next month) or take up a new hobby and get involved in something socially - away from your mates with a new crowd at first - who will know you and take you as you - not your goddamn height! -that is if you want to make that change - as you asked the question I assume you're considering it - Don't pussy foot around and procrastinate - Do it

Your mates do know about the platforms - but they probably realize that if you are going to that length to cover it up they know that to slag you off about it would send you into a pit of despair.

So feel the fear and do it anyway as that famous Americanism goes - take a good look at your life and see what you have to lose by "coming out" - I would say by the tone of your conversation - not a lot - life is about risk and reward - particularly for those of us on the XY side of the sex divide - you gotta take your cojones in hand and go for it - jeez ,you're only 24 and 5'7" - man - you are average height - Im short - if you were 4.7 - then I would say you have a right to be aggrieved at the your result from the Genepool Blender.

everybody has fears and insecurities - it is how you face them that defines you. I am, irony of ironies of this thread - scared of heights! - can't go near cliffs - only went up the Eiffel tower at gunpoint from the GF and and as regards flying - Im the hyperventilating maniac at the back (always the back - yet to see a plane reverse into a mountain!) who has to be surgically removed from his seat - yet I fly 10 times a year on average and Im getting better and better all the time (until serious turbelence hits and then all bets are off!)

Face your fears and have no regrets - you get one go on this merry-go-round called life - go live it.

Anyway - I'm rambling and got to get back to work - if you need a quick fix of confidence - take a vacation - go to Japan - where you will be in the top 10% vertically speaking and the local ladies will be all over you to practice their english and much much more besides:D - Ah great place Tokyo - take it from me;)

Just Do it

mossieh

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You're my new favourite poster Edo...deadly stuff...OP, if you want good advice on here, read his posts again.







Mayor of munchkinland...:D

Victor

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