Last Strike

ASI Casper

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TA Events is proud to announce the forthcoming Airsoft event.....
Last Strike

Details
Location: Caerwent Army Training Estate, South Wales
Date: 13/14 Ocober 2007
Price: £75.00
Availability: 300 Places


Summary
Gechin, a small town in the southern territories of the Ukraine has a growing insurgency problem. But with so many insurgent elements now appearing in the south, the Coalition are having to stretch their resources too far to deal with the ever growing issue.

Gechin is also the home to a reinforced British infantry company, who are tasked with seizing a newly discovered ULCA munitions dump located within the town itself. But what they do not know, is that this is no mere coincidence and that it's presence within the town is all part of a bigger terror campaign about to be launched by the UCLA (Ukrainian Communist Liberation Army).

With the UCLA expending all their resources on the Gechin plan, this could be the deciding factor in the intrastate war. Will this final act of aggression be enough to have the Coalition pull out of their support mission in the Ukraine or will the Coalition finally defeat the UCLA once and for all. Only you can decide the fate of both of these forces.

More information will be available during the course of next week. Forthcoming game information will be available at www.ta-events.co.uk

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http://www.airsoftireland.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8578

Anyone up for it?

Lemming

ASI Casper wrote:

Anyone up for it?

Mmmm ... strongly tempted. The pics of the site look good!

ASI Casper

That's just the dragon valley ones, Ian ( the guy organising it ) should have proper pics up along with more info within the next few days.

NakedDex

UCLA? I've always wanted to take on that college! I would've preferred to take them on at american football but i guess this is just as good!

Dar

I'm definitely up for it.

odonnell

that looks so... so very good.

id be game if the mrs. grants me a pass.

gandalf?

Boston

Ok, thats looks very very cool. I'd be up for that.

Boston

How do you book this?

Lemming

Boston wrote:

How do you book this?

From The About page

The booking pages will be available within the next couple of weeks. The booking system will operate much the same as the previous event, but the only difference is that there will be less information to supply initially about the other members on your booking (if you are booking as a team).

I would very strongly encourage teams to book under one booking because that will ensure that all the members of your team can be giving places at the event. It is quite frustating when team pulls out because only 6 of the 12 members secured a place, simply because they all booked individually. Consequently, I will need the full details of the person making the booking but I will only need the name and email address of any other places being reserved as part of the same booking.

So the reservation system will allow you to reserve your places for the event from which point you will be given 14 days to pay the deposit of £45. The remaining £30 should be paid at the gate when you arrive on site.

All deposits should be paid using Paypal, although if you are paying by debit/credit card then you do NOT have to have a PayPal account.

Hunter1100

I might be interested but how do you plan on getting there

Boston

Ok fair enough, I read elsewhere that they where taking bookings from the 28th.

As for how to go there, I don't know british geography too well, maybe boat if thats viable(like not a five hour bus/train trip) Failing that Ryan air.

Fallschirmjager

Boston wrote:

Ok fair enough, I read elsewhere that they where taking bookings from the 28th.

As for how to go there, I don't know british geography too well, maybe boat if thats viable(like not a five hour bus/train trip) Failing that Ryan air.

Boston, i think it has to be boat, i seem to recall someone checked with ryanair before and they wont carry replicas anywhere on the plane...even the hold.


jeeze it looks amazing...i see they are limiting the amount of bb's you can carry...


i would love to goto something like that....

odonnell

worth looking at in more detail. Get ferry from Dublin to Holyhead, or get it from Cork to Swansea (swansea's south wales). I think those ferry journeys are a little longer than the norm, around 6 - 12 hours or so but dont quote me on it.

Problem is - do we all try to arrange a few cars and just drive down through wales? Id say public transport would be more hassle than it could possibly be worth on a weekender like that with all your gear.

boards.ie team?

http://www.directferries.ie/routes.htm

Boston

what about aer lingus, can get to brimingham for as little as 70 euro and back.

Hivemind187

I'd say taking the boat as a large group would be the best bet. The logistics just work out better if ye' can get enough vehicles.

Think about it this way, you can bring all your own supplies, aeg's, rounds, gear, camping equipment and if you get stopped and searched and questions are asked you can pont the other dozen cars carrying similar camoflaged geeks heading to the same event.

Plus, there is nothing like a booze cruise

Boston

I don't drive though

Lemming

I had a brief look at flights last night and the airports in the vicinity are either a no-go (ryan-air) or don't have flights operating those dates.

TBH, I'd be inclined to say motorised transport & ferry of some description. Checking the route via holyhead and doing the long-but-straightforward route, it's a 3/4 hour trip down to the venue. Driving through Wales would be faster _probably_ but I haven't looked in detail at maps yet.

Going by road/ferry would also allow you to bring more kit, gas (both camping and GBB variety), etc. and avoid the hassle of airport security.

But with that said, there's some confusion over the VCR * act that's due to come into effect on october 1st which may directly affect both RoI & NI airsoft players ability to bring kit to mainland Britain. There's some clarification of this going on at the moment, so hopefully we'll know soon enough either way.


* Violent Crime Reduction

gandalf

Unfortunately I will have used all my holidays this year (as I am off to Vegas in November!!!) so I won't be going which is a shame as I am driving an estate

Next year.....but a trip to Predator is in order!!!!

odonnell

well ive a seat ibiza so..... not much gear or camping equipment room there!

odonnell

Boston wrote:

I don't drive though

sure you could scare up a lift with one of the lads...?

personally speaking, travelling to the UK for ANY reason is always far, far easier by car and boat. especially when you think of all your gear ya know?

maybe we should start an actual list of whos thinkin of goin and start thinkin of who could be doing wheels duty, or whod be willing to. not long to go until the event itself and we will need to be booking ferry tickets and the likes REAL soon.

Ill be trying to make it, but am going to be a bit up in the air with job/flat etc so.. ill say im a 50-50 currently.

Boston

Right I posted this message and based on the information provided come to the following conclusions.

While there are trains from both ports in whales that will just about get you to the sites closest station, they take close to 6 hours. The train from liverpool to the site is faster at about 4 hours 30 minutes (2 changes). A plane into Birmingham and a train from there is the fastest option given total journey time. I will post up later if Aer Lingus allow Aegs.

Lemming

Boston wrote:

Right I posted this message and based on the information provided come to the following conclusions.

While there are trains from both ports in whales that will just about get you to the sites closest station, they take close to 6 hours. The train from liverpool to the site is faster at about 4 hours 30 minutes (2 changes). A plane into Birmingham and a train from there is the fastest option given total journey time. I will post up later if Aer Lingus allow Aegs.

Aer lingus allow AEGs - I'll tell you that now. €30 each way though. The only carrier that refused point blank was Ryan Air.

Boston

Aer Arann have flights direct to cardiff which is 30 minutes away from the site's station. 139 euro for two adult tickets return. I think this is what I'll be doing if Aer Arann allow AEGs. Boat and driving maybe a better idea, but its just not sensible to hold off booking on the off chance of getting a lift for me and my mate.

Harekin

If someone realistically plans a way to get to this I will definately go,and Ill drag a few with me.

Boston

Harekin wrote:

If someone realistically plans a way to get to this I will definately go,and Ill drag a few with me.

Erm, thats what I've been doing. I'm booking flights as soon as the site allows for booking. I even have the train schedules, all thats left is to find out if Aer Aran allow Aeg's. As soon as I'm sorted I will post up a little guide here.

Boston

Update: Aer Aran won't transport and type of gun due to the nature of the planes they operate. Apparently the bagage compartment is accessible by passengers, would anyone whose driving be willing to transport soem Aegs? failing that I may just dismantle the guns.

Hunter1100

I would drive as i am in cork.most practical method for me would be the ferry from rosslare to pembroke ,but i only have a provisional license so i cant drive in the UK

Hunter1100

Boston wrote:

Update: Aer Aran won't transport and type of gun due to the nature of the planes they operate. Apparently the bagage compartment is accessible by passengers, would anyone whose driving be willing to transport soem Aegs? failing that I may just dismantle the guns.

Did Aer Aran say they would allow dismantled AEGs

Boston

Aer Arann wrote:

Thank you for your query.

I regret to advise you that we are not permitted by the Regulatory Authorities to carry any type of guns, ammunition, sporting rifles, pistols, etc, on our aircraft. We operate ATR aircraft, whose baggage holds are accessible from the passenger cabins.

Liam Lalor
Security Manager

So no they didn't say it, and on hine sight I won't be taking the risk.

Hunter1100

we could go aer lingus to brimingham arriving at 07.20 in the morning that would give plenty of time to get the train to the site. I think that the site will be opening at 2o clock. Some one is already after saying air lingus allow aegs

Boston

Hunter1100 wrote:

we could go aer lingus to brimingham arriving at 07.20 in the morning that would give plenty of time to get the train to the site. I think that the site will be opening at 2o clock. Some one is already after saying air lingus allow aegs

Thats the fall back plan alright.

ASI Casper

I'd strongly advise reading this before booking anything.

http://www.airsoftireland.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=8769&view=findpost&p=73819

Hivemind187

ASI Casper wrote:

I'd strongly advise reading this before booking anything.

http://www.airsoftireland.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=8769&view=findpost&p=73819

Unfortunately yes. I was discussing this over lunch with extremetaz and by the looks of things the VCR bill may have the potential to cause problems with Airsofters transporting their equipment.

As it stands if you bring them to England after the implementation of the bill you may be guilty of importing a realistic imitation firearm which is now a criminal rather than civil offence.

It might be worth checking if anyone is providing rentals for this gig.

Dar

Would it be possible for one of the representatives from the IAA to email the UK Home Office and see if they can clarify the situation?

Hivemind187

Dar wrote:

Would it be possible for one of the representatives from the IAA to email the UK Home Office and see if they can clarify the situation?

No point in speaking to hte home office just yet. Chances are they wouldnt get back to us in time. I think Taz is going to ask the UKARA and the UKAGB about it.

I wouldnt hold your breath though, they are really trying to not rock the boat at their end and it would reflect well on us not to do it for them.

We might be able to help organize rentals or something.

ASI Casper

The Home Office aren't going to want to concern themselves with dealing directly with us. Currently the only bodies liasing with them at the moment are the UKARA ( United Kingdom Airsoft Retailers Association ), UKASGB ( United Kingdom Airsoft Sites Governing Body ) and the ABA ( Association of British Airsoft. ) as these are the only ones they currently recognise.

To be fair to the UKARA, it's somewhat outside their scope of responsibility, but I'm about to email them all shortly to bring the matter to their attention and try to get some clarification on it.

Hivemind187

ASI Casper wrote:

The Home Office aren't going to want to concern themselves with dealing directly with us. Currently the only bodies liasing with them at the moment are the UKARA ( United Kingdom Airsoft Retailers Association ), UKASGB ( United Kingdom Airsoft Sites Governing Body ) and the ABA ( Association of British Airsoft. ) as these are the only ones they currently recognise.

To be fair to the UKARA, it's somewhat outside their scope of responsibility, but I'm about to email them all shortly to bring the matter to their attention and try to get some clarification on it.

Cheers Casper

Harekin

Wow, fantastic(sarc). Oisin cancel the plans to get a group going up to Pred then.

Boston

Harekin wrote:

Wow, fantastic(sarc). Oisin cancel the plans to get a group going up to Pred then.

No need to jump the gun, bookign isn't even open yet.

Cheeky monkey

Anyone know if there is an age restriction on this?

Hunter1100

The VCR bill means that people from Ireland or another country for that matter will not be able to attend as far as I know.

Harekin

Boston wrote:

No need to jump the gun, bookign isn't even open yet.

We wont be able to bring our guns so unless you wanna go over and play without one. Read the link Casper posted.

Dar

We could always do something slightly crazy. All of us order new AEGs before the VCR comes in or just ship our own stuff over, sort out somewhere in England/Wales to store them. Play with them over the weekend and bring em all home. All very complicated as opposed to just renting, but thought I'd throw it out anyway .

Harekin

Too much effort man, it just seems ludicrous effort for a game.

Boston

Harekin wrote:

We wont be able to bring our guns so unless you wanna go over and play without one. Read the link Casper posted.

I did, infact i raised this very same point in a thread about a week ago.

ASI Casper

Booking opened a short while ago for those interested. Although, I really don't see a way around the VCRA for you guys. At least not in time for 13th / 14th Oct

http://www.ta-events.co.uk/booking/

Boston

Rentals not available apparently.

Question: Whats stoping us joining a club up the north? Surely that would solve this issue?

ASI Casper

Nothing's stopping you joining a club up North.

But, to my knowledge at least, registration to the airsofters database is not going to be open non-UK residents. Which means you won't be able to avail of the specific defence.

Hivemind187

ASI Casper wrote:

Nothing's stopping you joining a club up North.

But, to my knowledge at least, registration to the airsofters database is not going to be open non-UK residents. Which means you won't be able to avail of the specific defence.

Well thats open minded and forward thinking isnt it?

Considering the British Governments track record of redefining "UK-resident" and "UK-national" on the fly this does not bode well.

All the same, Northern Irish and UK players are still more than welcome in Ireland even if you arent able to return the favor - and we are glad to have you to shoot at

Lemming

Hivemind187 wrote:

Well thats open minded and forward thinking isnt it?

Considering the British Governments track record of redefining "UK-resident" and "UK-national" on the fly this does not bode well.

Indeed. Well look at it this way ... Ground-Zero had how many people from outside the UK (NI included) ? Factor in the number of events in a given year, along with the likes of day-trips (e.g. RoI players heading North) That's a nice chunk of tourism money that the H.O. is now "happy" to give the two fingers to.

Oh well, f*cks to them [the H.O.] if they want to play silly buggers. All it means is that the UK is going to become much more isolated regards Airsoft (among other things). As you've said Hivemind, progressive and forward thinking.

I am, of course f*cking steaming that I can't attend Op.Last Strike (town assault 5), or that I wont be able to head north with my kit as a result of this.

Hivemind187

Lemming wrote:

Indeed. Well look at it this way ... Ground-Zero had how many people from outside the UK (NI included) ? Factor in the number of events in a given year, along with the likes of day-trips (e.g. RoI players heading North) That's a nice chunk of tourism money that the H.O. is now "happy" to give the two fingers to.

Oh well, f*cks to them [the H.O.] if they want to play silly buggers. All it means is that the UK is going to become much more isolated regards Airsoft (among other things). As you've said Hivemind, progressive and forward thinking.

I am, of course f*cking steaming that I can't attend Op.Last Strike (town assault 5), or that I wont be able to head north with my kit as a result of this.

On the other hand it really opens up an opertunity for a wiley Irish business mogul.

Consider the sequence of events and then think: An irish site of fields and woodland open to folk from the UK etc If they are able to travel with their personal equipment to here and back again then boo-sucks to you Town Assault hello Paddy-Assault.

Provided I have read the VCR right it means that a member of one of the clubs would be able to transport his own gear from the uK and there fore would be able to play here in Ireland. Unless they have scuppered that too.

So come on folks, who has 50acres of spare land that they arent building apartments on?