Analysis please

MoanyGit

Have just come home steaming and I really need opinions on how I played this particular hand which resulted in me going on the tilt and losing the remainder of my chips. Please excuse the poker terminology or the lack of!!!

Blinds were 100-200

My stack was 4k

Short handed game 6 ppl.

get one caller in mid position before it comes to me in the cutoff postition.

I peek at my hole cards and see QJ offsuit so I raise 3xBB to steal the pot.

Everybody folds except for one caller- BB. (his stack was 3.5k) bringing the pot to 1500

FLOP=Jc 6c 2h

BB checks. My gut instinct is dat he failed to connect with the board but could have a flush draw so I overbet the pot with 1700. He calls bringing the pot to 3400

TURN=8d

BB checks. I push all my remaining chips of 1700 in the middle. He goes all in with his remaining stack of 1200 and shows Ac4c

RIVER=Ad

Did I play this hand correctly or am I just as big a donkey as the BB (cos he made some bad calls!! Or did he not?!) or am I the donkey not the BB?!?!?!

Thanks for reading this. Ur views wud be much appreciated and could be valuable on this learning curve.

Ace2007

BB should have folded on the turn, after ur bet

btw the pot after the turn bet was 4900 and not 3400(He calls bringing the pot to 3400)

I know that wen you bet the turn,some ppl will say: he was gettin 5.08/1, but realistically he's got 9 outs, as his A could be dead.

bops

interesting

1) your raise imo (which doesnt mean much around here) is fine - you have position & you correctly read the limper as weak

2) you connected with the flop and bet it strong, you were correct that you were ahead and correct to worry about a possible draw

3) your push on the turn is also correct, you are committed to your hand and still infront

from the bb's point of view:

1) he called additional 400 into a pot of 1100 with a suited A - nothing wrong there imo

2) he picked up the nut flush draw and he had the correct odds to call - 2/1

3) he was getting 4/1 to call the river with 12 probable outs - so he was priced in again - he was also committed to the call

in fairness i dont see much wrong with the hand, just to crappyish hands doing what they gotta do under the circumstances

maybe tighten up your game (like me lol) and don't try and steal with rubbish!!

...now wait for some proper responses

ul gl next time


btw welcome to boards!

Ace2007

just wondering bops would you have played the hand the same way as the BB, or would you have check raised all in on the flop?

opr

You played the hand fine but i would raise more preflop after someone has limped.

Opr

bops

Ace2007 wrote:

just wondering bops would you have played the hand the same way as the BB, or would you have check raised all in on the flop?

it looks like an obvious crai - but imo the call can be so much better - and push a blank turn - if you decide you are going with the hand, calling the flop bet has you both fairly committed, so if your crai he has to call, but there is a slight chance he will fold to a turn push i think?

...but people say sngs don't work anymore?

MoanyGit

bops wrote:

it looks like an obvious crai - but imo the call can be so much better - and push a blank turn - if you decide you are going with the hand, calling the flop bet has you both fairly committed, so if your crai he has to call, but there is a slight chance he will fold to a turn push i think?

...but people say sngs don't work anymore?

Thanks for ur opinions guys! Much appreciated. Wanna plug these leaks in my play and improve myself as a player (dont we all?!)
Thanks for the welcome bop!:)

Forgive me for being a lil bit naive as this is d 1st time i ve registered with a poker forum but what does the following terms mean??

Crai
Blank turn (i assume this is calling on the flop with the intention of going all in on the turn?!)
turn push (going all in on the turn?!)
and sngs?

Rb

MoanyGit wrote:

Crai
Blank turn (i assume this is calling on the flop with the intention of going all in on the turn?!)
turn push (going all in on the turn?!)
and sngs?

CRAI = Check-raise all in
Blank Turn = a turn that doesn't complete any flush or obvious straight, nor pair the board
Turn Push = All in on the turn
SNG = Sit N Go, Single Table Tournament.

EDIT: Balls, didn't realise the context in which SnG was used. Refer to what Bops says down V

bops

MoanyGit wrote:

Thanks for ur opinions guys! Much appreciated. Wanna plug these leaks in my play and improve myself as a player (dont we all?!)
Thanks for the welcome bop!:)

Forgive me for being a lil bit naive as this is d 1st time i ve registered with a poker forum but what does the following terms mean??

Crai
Blank turn (i assume this is calling on the flop with the intention of going all in on the turn?!)
turn push (going all in on the turn?!)
and sngs?

Check Raise All In
Turn card being of no use
Going all in on the turn
a Stop and Go play - it's like going all in - but you call the raise and you are 1st to act when the next card comes out - and you go all in then! - people think it's outdated, but i still kinda like it sometimes

i think there is a place somewhere on here where all these yokes are explained

Ace2007

here :

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055118872

MoanyGit

Great thanks.. Will sure be returning here again!

Thanks guys

dvdfan

Probably nit picking but id rather push the flop if your putting him on a flush draw as hes only getting 1.4/1 instead of huge odds of 5/1 on the turn where he has to call with even just 2 overcards so when you bet 1700 on the flop your committing yourself to the hand and you cant really fold even if the flush drops so why not push now when you have some folding equity. Of course if he thinks hes Ace is live hes still getting the odds to call but at least your making the decision harder

If i was to bet the flop i would prefer to bet 1k. When you bet 1700 he knows that even though hes getting 1.8/1 that because of stack sizes your not folding the turn so he has implied odds. If you bet 1k hes getting 2.5/1 and hes not sure if he has implied odds he needs because you could be cbetting and you might fold the turn if the flush hits on the turn and he pushes which will still leave you with a 2400 stack and an M of 12.