Riot on O'Connell Bridge?

colm_c

Just drove past O'Connell bridge and there was around 30-40 gardai in full riot gear keeping two sets of people apart, along with paddy wagons, and lots of gardai vehicles.

Anyone know what this was about?

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV

yore ma? but check like www.ireland.com or www.breakingnews.ie , it may say...

whiskeyman

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/0807/bohemians1.html

I'd guess this.

Nice to see we're conforming to our English counterparts once again...

colm_c

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV wrote:

yore ma? but check like www.ireland.com or www.breakingnews.ie , it may say...

Checked already, no mention in either.

colm_c

whiskeyman wrote:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/0807/bohemians1.html

I'd guess this.

Nice to see we're conforming to our English counterparts once again...

That would explain all the celtic jerseys on one side... f**king muppets...

spurious

Just passed it on the bus myself - lots of Black Marias and guards in riot gear. Didn't see any actual bother though.

mikemac

I seem to remember something similar happening around this time last year on Gardiner St with these "fans"

For shame:(

MooseJam

give the fans a break, aparantly nothing happened

whiskeyman

micmclo wrote:

I seem to remember something similar happening around this time last year on Gardiner St with these "fans"

For shame:(

yup - think this is some of the footage outside the Hill 16 pub.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzys_0gunL4

nesf

Moved from AH.

passive

Heh... I was wondering. Walked home via dorset street and was passed by approximately a million gardai, riot vans, horsies etc, intermingled with large groups of respectable looking young fellows in tracksuits who seemed happy with their police escort, presumably because of their good, honest, law abiding intentions...

Hard Larry

colm_c wrote:

That would explain all the celtic jerseys on one side... f**king muppets...

That'd be Shamrock Rovers Jerseys

Dave!

colm_c wrote:

That would explain all the celtic jerseys on one side... f**king muppets...

lol

whiskeyman wrote:

yup - think this is some of the footage outside the Hill 16 pub.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzys_0gunL4

jayzis, i'd say those 2 Gardai weren't too thrilled about being the only ones there!

stovelid

Rovers and Bohs

edit: just seen Larry's post

CiaranC

passive wrote:

Heh... I was wondering. Walked home via dorset street and was passed by approximately a million gardai, riot vans, horsies etc, intermingled with large groups of respectable looking young fellows in tracksuits who seemed happy with their police escort, presumably because of their good, honest, law abiding intentions...

They were just people walking home from a hostile area after a football game. The escort was to prevent them being attacked.

I love the attitude on this forum, anyone who is working class and attends football matches is obviously a criminal.

passive

Eh... they were, umm, walking in the direction of O'Connell street... where, presumably a short while later,

colm_c Just drove past O'Connell bridge and there was around 30-40 gardai in full riot gear keeping two sets of people apart, along with paddy wagons, and lots of gardai vehicles.

Anyone know what this was about?

Anyway I made no remark on their class or origins, merely their style of dress and sketchy manner :P (edit; and I did so in an ironic fashion too, so really didn't say anything about them being criminals, just that there were large groups of them and they didn't seem best pleased with being surrounded by guards.)

arybvtcw0eolkf

CiaranC wrote:

I love the attitude on this forum, anyone who is working class and attends football matches is obviously a criminal.

Damn right too.

lightening

passive wrote:

Anyway I made no remark on their class or origins, merely their style of dress and sketchy manner :P (edit; and I did so in an ironic fashion too, so really didn't say anything about them being criminals, just that there were large groups of them and they didn't seem best pleased with being surrounded by guards.)

Fair enough... however you do realise its perfectly ok for Rural people to knock the crap out of each other in front of kids at a hurling match? And is it true that at some GAA matches the ref needs a Garda escort??? I heard this and couldn't believe it, does it happen in Rugby and Soccer?

nesf

lightening wrote:

Fair enough... however you do realise its perfectly ok for Rural people to knock the crap out of each other in front of kids at a hurling match? And is it true that at some GAA matches the ref needs a Garda escort???

That's rare, to be fair. You get a few drunk idiots sometimes but a large scale pitched battle is very rare.

lightening wrote:

I heard this and couldn't believe it, does it happen in Rugby and Soccer?

I've heard/seen it with soccer, I haven't with rugby, but it could happen. Considering the there's a fair cross-section between rugby, soccer and GAA fans down the country. It's only a class thing in Dublin, etc.

Plissken1

lightening wrote:

Fair enough... however you do realise its perfectly ok for Rural people to knock the crap out of each other in front of kids at a hurling match? And is it true that at some GAA matches the ref needs a Garda escort??? I heard this and couldn't believe it, does it happen in Rugby and Soccer?

A yeah sure it happens every week down the country, large gangs of wannabe English Hooligans attack each others pubs, and completely trash the place after a hurling match. :rolleyes:


Sure we are just a suburb of the UK at the end of the day, so its no wonder we dress and act like them.

I feel a chant coming on "UNITED" "UNITED" .... oooh its nearly that time of year again, the entire pub wearing English Premier League jersey's and tracky bottoms CLASSY !:D

RuggieBear

nesf wrote:

It's only a class thing in Dublin, etc.

but not in Cork? I'm sure the Temple Hill crowd are only delighted to know...:p

nesf

RuggieBear wrote:

but not in Cork? I'm sure the Temple Hill crowd are only delighted to know...:p

In the rural areas it isn't. I'm not a city boy

_blank_

Not one of the people in that YouTube clip is wearing a jersey of any description.

Of course any trouble caused is by fans of the eircom League.

Some of the ignorant, ill informed claptrap on this thread boggles the mind.

I regularly attend eircom League games, and have never been involved with violent scenes of any nature, thanks very much.

Oh, and yes, I own a jersey too.

Surprisingly, I don't sing with an English accent though.

What do Celtic Jersies have to do with Bohs and Rovers? Or was that just someone who doesn't really knowing what they are talking about making some kind of generalisation?

:rolleyes:

lightening

Plissken1 wrote:

A yeah sure it happens every week down the country, large gangs of wannabe English Hooligans attack each others pubs, and completely trash the place after a hurling match. :rolleyes:

That doesn't happen in Dublin every week.

Plissken1 wrote:

Sure we are just a suburb of the UK at the end of the day, so its no wonder we dress and act like them.

I feel a chant coming on "UNITED" "UNITED" .... oooh its nearly that time of year again, the entire pub wearing English Premier League jersey's and tracky bottoms CLASSY !:D

This happens all over the country, not just in Dublin and you know it.

RuggieBear

I've seen LOI fans cause trouble (Shamrock rovers).

I've also seen GAA fans from Dublin, Kildare, Clare and Galway cause trouble too

lightening

nesf wrote:

I've heard/seen it with soccer, I haven't with rugby, but it could happen. Considering the there's a fair cross-section between rugby, soccer and GAA fans down the country. It's only a class thing in Dublin, etc.

Amazing.. the ref's must get paid a lot. I heard the Cork fans shout "I would rather be a Paki than a Dub" Nice. I would love to know what their beef is with the Pakistani people.

nesf

lightening wrote:

Amazing.. the ref's must get paid a lot. I heard the Cork fans shout "I would rather be a Paki than a Dub" Nice. I would love to know what their beef is with the Pakistani people.

Eh, your point?

lightening

nesf wrote:

Eh, your point?

Pretty obvious nesf, In the first point I ponder on the ref's pay, they must get paid a lot to necessitate a garda escort. The second point is fairly simple too. I am questioning a chant involving the word "Paki" and its comparison to being a dub. I am wondering what the big hatred of being a Pakistani person is.

Please read my posts carefully, I don't want to have to explain everything to you.

Ruggiebear, I see trouble coming from all the Jerseys, not all the time, but from a minimum of people. It's just that they make the most noise!:mad:

nesf

lightening wrote:

Pretty obvious nesf, In the first point I ponder on the ref's pay, they must get paid a lot to necessitate a garda escort. The second point is fairly simple too. I am questioning a chant involving the word "Paki" and its comparison to being a dub. I am wondering what the big hatred of being a Pakistani person is.

Please read my posts carefully, I don't want to have to explain everything to you.

Yes, but what has that got to do with rural guys beating the **** out of each other constantly at GAA games down the country?


Mudslinging between counties is easy we've all been at matches where some muppet from the other (or our) side has said or done something extremely stupid or insulting. It doesn't support your original point though.

lightening

nesf wrote:

Yes, but what has that got to do with rural guys beating the **** out of each other constantly at GAA games down the country?


Mudslinging between counties is easy we've all been at matches where some muppet from the other (or our) side has said or done something extremely stupid or insulting. It doesn't support your original point though.

My point is that GAA fans seem to be no better than soccer fans. I lived in Drumcondra and sport violence is as prevelant in GAA (all counties) as it is with Dublin tracksuit wearing soccer fans.

nesf

lightening wrote:

My point is that GAA fans seem to be no better than soccer fans. I lived in Drumcondra and sport violence is as prevelant in GAA (all counties) as it is with Dublin tracksuit wearing soccer players.

Ah. I'd agree. It's a minority group in both. It's not very widespread in either, it's just more likely that a group of lads kicking the **** out of each other on O'Connell bridge will be on the news than a group of lads doing it in Ballywhateveryoucallit. Compared to some of European cousins we've very little sports violence tbh.

lightening

nesf wrote:

Ah. I'd agree. It's a minority group in both. It's not very widespread in either, it's just more likely that a group of lads kicking the **** out of each other on O'Connell bridge will be on the news than a group of lads doing it in Ballywhateveryoucallit. Compared to some of European cousins we've very little sports violence tbh.

Agreed 100% A minority in both GAA and Soccer. Good point about the group in Dublin compared with the group in Bally.... Easier to get cameras to, makes better copy, easier to be repulsed.

nesf

lightening wrote:

Agreed 100% A minority in both GAA and Soccer. Good point about the group in Dublin compared with the group in Bally.... Easier to get cameras to, makes better copy, easier to be repulsed.

And with more people living in Dublin, more people will care. It's always a lot more disturbing when the violence in "on your doorstep". It's easier to ignore something happening a few hundred miles away in some place you've never heard of or never set foot in.

That and you'll see more sports violence in Dublin simply because there's more teams and more people. If you compress loads of people together you'll get friction, if they happen to follow different teams...

Gaspode

Plissken1 wrote:

A yeah sure it happens every week down the country, large gangs of wannabe English Hooligans attack each others pubs, and completely trash the place after a hurling match. :rolleyes:


Sure we are just a suburb of the UK at the end of the day, so its no wonder we dress and act like them.

Ya know, It's funny cos it's true!

There's a good 10 page thread in each of those sentences!!

lostexpectation

CiaranC wrote:

They were just people walking home from a hostile area after a football game. The escort was to prevent them being attacked.

I love the attitude on this forum, anyone who is working class and attends football matches is obviously a criminal.

and who is that they were being protected from? who may have attacked them?

other people who'd just left the match thats who...

Hard Larry

seansouth wrote:

Not one of the people in that YouTube clip is wearing a jersey of any description.

Of course any trouble caused is by fans of the eircom League.

Some of the ignorant, ill informed claptrap on this thread boggles the mind.

I regularly attend eircom League games, and have never been involved with violent scenes of any nature, thanks very much.

Oh, and yes, I own a jersey too.

Surprisingly, I don't sing with an English accent though.

What do Celtic Jersies have to do with Bohs and Rovers? Or was that just someone who doesn't really knowing what they are talking about making some kind of generalisation?

:rolleyes:

I wholeheartedly agree with ya on the Celtic Jerseys....the words Tar and Brush come to mind just because someone wears a Celtic Jersey (or any jersey for that matter) doesn't mean they're a thug

But the reason those lads aren't wearing Jerseys in the Video outside Hill 16 Pub is because its the Bohs and Rovers Casuals...they don't wear Jerseys...they wear casual sports gear to distinguish themselves from other fans...the casuals in the UK do it so them onions do it too.

_blank_

Yeah, thanks for the lesson in the life and times of football hooligans in Ireland. You obviously didn't read when I said I regularly attend eircom League games, you think I didn't know any of that.

And I certainly wasn't defending the Celtic Jersey wearing, ball scratching, tracksuit-bottoms in socks morons, like this idiot.

:rolleyes:

OhNoYouDidn't

is there any chance the title of this thread can be changed to something more appropriate like "**** all happened on O'Connell Bridge?"

Zebra3

OhNoYouDidn't wrote:

is there any chance the title of this thread can be changed to something more appropriate like "**** all happened on O'Connell Bridge?"

Give the OP a chance. He's probably looking for a job with the Herald.

Hard Larry

seansouth wrote:

Yeah, thanks for the lesson in the life and times of football hooligans in Ireland. You obviously didn't read when I said I regularly attend eircom League games, you think I didn't know any of that.

And I certainly wasn't defending the Celtic Jersey wearing, ball scratching, tracksuit-bottoms in socks morons, like this idiot.

:rolleyes:

ooooh tetchy someone has sand in their jimjams

didn't realise this thread was just for you.

Collie D

So no actual riot occurred? A bunch of people went to a football match and then went home? I'm sure it wasn't the OP's intention but why if nothing happened why is this thread just being used as a "soccer fans are scum" rant?

I follow a few sports (although soccer would be my number one). I have never encountered trouble at a soccer game...bit of hassle and aggressive attitude from opposing fans while in Amsterdam once but they were just dicks who didn't represent the majority of good-natured Dutch lads who enjoyed a few beers and some banter.

I have encountered scumbags at GAA games...this doesn't mean all GAA fans are scum...they are just scum who happen to like a particular sport.

CiaranC

lostexpectation wrote:

and who is that they were being protected from? who may have attacked them?

other people who'd just left the match thats who...

There have been several incidents in recent weeks of fans of Rovers & Shelbourne being attacked at their own home games, which didnt involve these peoples team at all. Certainly there is a small element of fans within the grounds who are bent on hooliganism, but Id wager the majority of these guys werent at the match.

But dont let mere facts get in the way of your whining.

lostexpectation

CiaranC wrote:

There have been several incidents in recent weeks of fans of Rovers & Shelbourne being attacked at their own home games, which didnt involve these peoples team at all. Certainly there is a small element of fans within the grounds who are bent on hooliganism, but Id wager the majority of these guys werent at the match.

But dont let mere facts get in the way of your whining.

so it involved people following the other team at the match? thats what I said..

OhNoYouDidn't

lostexpectation wrote:

so it involved people following the other team at the match? thats what I said..

no, in involved local gougers attacking Dublin buses with fans (and others) on them.

it could be a rugby, cricket or tiddlywinks game happening. get off your high horse.

lostexpectation

OhNoYouDidn't wrote:

no, in involved local gougers attacking Dublin buses with fans (and others) on them.

directly outside the grounds?

why would they do that?

CiaranC

lostexpectation wrote:

directly outside the grounds?

why would they do that?

The buses (and fans) were not attacked directly outside the ground, they (the northern parts of bus routes (16, 41) from the southside) were attacked around Dorset St, both on the way to and after the matches. A garda operation before the Rovers vs Derry city match led to several arrests before the match in the Dorset St area, and subsequently no further incidents occurred on the night.

Im afraid you'll need a social psychologist to answer the second part of your post.

OhNoYouDidn't

lostexpectation wrote:

directly outside the grounds?

why would they do that?

you are trying to imply its football related rather than little bástard related.

if you think the rugger crowd going to croke park are safe from this, you need to get real

lostexpectation

OhNoYouDidn't wrote:

you are trying to imply its football related rather than little bástard related.

if you think the rugger crowd going to croke park are safe from this, you need to get real

im not trying to say anything, show me an semi-organised fight like a rugby match

Collie D

lostexpectation wrote:

show me an semi-organised fight like a rugby match

Why? There was no semi-organised fight after the Bohs-Rovers game either...this whole topic was a non-event.

Rosita

colm_c wrote:

along with paddy wagons, QUOTE]


Paddy Wagons?

Was this Dublin or Cricklewood?

Did the Bobbies give the Paddies a good kicking before dumping them in the Paddy Wagons?:rolleyes:

lostexpectation

Collie D wrote:

Why? There was no semi-organised fight after the Bohs-Rovers game either...this whole topic was a non-event.

there have been what does that video show?