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Flukey

Since my ban, I've been hearing that apparently some people, whoever they were, complained about the mild word "thugs" being used in a post. Far, far worse has been posted in threads and nobody got banned, and rightly so I might add. All of a sudden though, sensitive little skins are getting offended by mild words like mine. It would appear that GAA here no longer stands for Gaelic Athletic Association, but for the variation as found in "goo goo gaa gaa", the sound little babies make. It remains to be seen will a post as mild as this one also result in a post being removed or even a ban. So mods, leave this up and let's see what people think about how all of a sudden the slightest little thing upsets poor sensitive souls and results in bans. Maybe we should discuss tiddlywinks, or will the sensitive souls here find the the words to describe pressing down on a piece of plastic are too painful to read too?

cmoney

handbags at the ready..... 10 paces :rolleyes:

Mossy Monk

:rolleyes:

Flukey

It's hilarious isn't it? It's fit for the humour forum. Surely someone must be having me on if a word like that actually offended someone. Maybe I've been wrong all these years. I've always thought Meath people, as I presume these unidentified sensitive people are from there, were tough people well able to withstand the hard stuff, but apparently not. The simplest thing now seems to offend them.

blackbelt

WELCOME BACK YOU SON OF A GUN.

Although there is a lot of truth in what you are saying Flukey,we can't have a situation where its acceptable to call anybody what we like.I know I will be quoted and accused of being a hypocrite but it is the truth.I do think that the post in question that got you banned did deserve a warning but only that.It also wasn't directed at any individual in particular.Thats my 2 cents anyway,I'm not arguing.

I've been offended by being tarred with the same brush as a scumbag for frequenting the Hill and I've wrongly lashed out by using the term redneck which I accept wasn't the nicest or smartest thing to do.

I feel some people get annoyed very easily or have some hatred in them.For example,Stepbar wrote his gospel after the Dublin-Mayo game which indicated that there was an issue there but even though it was a bit ott,we accept that people are entitled to feel that way for whatever reason.

I just feel that people take things really personally and in turn make it personal.At the end of the day,we are Irish and some of the people here are not but have a love of the game.Thats why we are here.We do get side-tracked but I do love arguing with Lemlin,it is one of the driving forces that makes me check posts here very regularly.Theres nothing personal in our arguments but its great entertainment.I think we've been arguing over everything possible for 3 years now.

TomMc

Personally I would not bother complaining (I have no time for PC) but would just get my coat and leave (or at least for a while anyway), if I felt things had got out of hand.

In recent times though some of the language used has pandered to the lowest form. Slagging and name calling for the sake of it with not much in the way of constructive posts. May be its time we all saw the positives in teams, players & fans and not go down the road of petty-minded name calling and a jingoism of sorts. All it does is devalue the game and the perception of GAA supporters, even if some are just hangers on.

We should all try and take a leaf out of Anthony Tohill's book. He is a great match analyst - The voice of reason, razor sharp, sees things exactly as they are, relatively impartial and without having the need to criticize people in a harsh manner.

Flukey

Well hopefully soon Blackbelt, yourself and Lemlin will get the chance to argue in person over who buys the first round. Maybe myself and some of the Meath residents of the board will get the chance to have a similar argument next Saturday after the Tyrone game. Pity you will be in Spain Blackbelt, but maybe some of the other Dubs will be around on Saturday and join us, or any other members. We could use Madigans again, although maybe the Meath lads will need some very soft seats for their sensitive skins to rest on and we'll have to look for another establishment.

The Rooster

blackbelt wrote:

Although there is a lot of truth in what you are saying Flukey,we can't have a situation where its acceptable to call anybody what we like.I know I will be quoted and accused of being a hypocrite but it is the truth.I do think that the post in question that got you banned did deserve a warning but only that.It also wasn't directed at any individual in particular.Thats my 2 cents anyway,I'm not arguing.

100% correct.

The mod that banned flukey must either not be a regular reader of posts on the forum and/or have forgotten to drink his/her bottle of cop-on that day.

Flukey

Kaimera was the mod in question, so a regular visitor. He did post in the thread that the ban was after much thought, so even he had his doubts. Crazier still, I have been informed that apparently a two week ban was considered. Others seem to have all this information, though I was told nothing by the mods. The plot thickens. In GAA terms, my comment, at a stretch, might have deserved a free, a very dubious one at that. A black book or a yellow card would have really been pushing the limits of reasonability. Yet, somehow I was given a straight red card. It's like someone with an outstanding record (for amongst the third-party messages telling me about all this, it was also said I post good posts) being sent off for a minor foul of the ball. So what was the ban for?

blackbelt

Flukey wrote:

Well hopefully soon Blackbelt, yourself and Lemlin will get the chance to argue in person over who buys the first round. Maybe myself and some of the Meath residents of the board will get the chance to have a similar argument next Saturday after the Tyrone game. Pity you will be in Spain Blackbelt, but maybe some of the other Dubs will be around on Saturday and join us, or any other members. We could use Madigans again, although maybe the Meath lads will need some very soft seats for their sensitive skins to rest on and we'll have to look for another establishment.

Don't worry Flukey,Boards Beers for Dublin fans and other counties Welcomish part deux will be soon.:D Can you arrange the meeting in my absence?I'm going away for a week from tomorrow so I'll be taking a break from everything including the rain.:)

From Saturday,come 6pm I will be smiling either way as either Tyrone or Meath will be gone but I'm actually more up for Meath strangely enough.It would be a breath of fresh air.I'll PM you later today to start the arrangements although last time went off without a hitch after a little hesitation at first.

blackbelt

Well,we're just glad to have you back Flukey....well at least I am.:) Now we can take on Meathman007 and Aedh Baclamh and TomMc together.Let the wars begin.:D

Nah really,lets all just have fun on here from now on lads without getting personal.Thats what I am prepared to do.

Rooster and Flukey,whilst I agree with what you guys are saying,lets not forget about the rule of arguing with moderators.Its in the rules thread,I'm just looking out for you guys so you won't get banned and I can therefore read your posts.Some things on here start off fine but tend to go overboard and get out of control.

Flukey

I'm just reporting what I've been told. I never get personal with posts. I'll attack an opinion but not the poster expressing it. If Meathman007, Aedh Baclamh, TomMc or any others want to meet after Saturday's match, that can be arranged.

TomMc

^^^ Sounds Ominous.:D

Flukey

Not at all. Hopefully I'll be in a celebratory mood and you'll need cheering up. Good reasons for a drink all round.

cruiserweight

Flukey wrote:

I'm just reporting what I've been told. I never get personal with posts. I'll attack an opinion but not the poster expressing it. If Meathman007, Aedh Baclamh, TomMc or any others want to meet after Saturday's match, that can be arranged.

TomMc wrote:

^^^ Sounds Ominous.

Well here is a video of the last meeting Boards GAA Beers

Nalced_irl

You were banned for using the word thug? Thats a little over the top alright. Can understand the no personal attacks but i presume you used it with regards to a player? In which case i think it is sorta silly. Fair enough not going too ott on slagging a player off but to say a player is a thug is not exactly much. Anyway cruiserweight, thats the wrong video, This is the correct one

TomMc

5 aside it is then.:D

Ticketmaster.ie in the morning.

Flukey

No poster, player or team were even mentioned in the post Nalced.

Neither of those videos were of the Meet. They were just the pre-match warm-up and half time entertainment, each just before we got down to the real business. Ticketmaster, in the morning it is then, and don't forget your headbands.

blackbelt

ROFLMFAO at CW's video.

meathman 007

Flukey wrote:

No poster, player or team were even mentioned in the post Nalced.

what are you like 15? - you called the meath team thugs - thats rich coming from a dublin supporter considering both their players and fans antics over the last couple of years..... what is this thread anyway? - u taking a leaf out of blackbelts book and starting a thread to talk about yourself....:p

RuggieBear

moved to feedback

ecksor

Er, thanks for that. Anyone want to provide a reference?

Time Magazine

Flukey wrote:

I have been informed that apparently a two week ban was considered. Others seem to have all this information, though I was told nothing by the mods. The plot thickens.

Whenever someone is banned from a forum, a notice is put on the Moderators forum so that mods don't go quietly banning people; they have to declare it.

RuggieBear

ecksor wrote:

Er, thanks for that. Anyone want to provide a reference?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055123484
i believe it is to do with the deleted posts on this thread.

copacetic

ecksor wrote:

Er, thanks for that. Anyone want to provide a reference?

thread here, but post deleted:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055123484

reported post here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055124220

Nalced_irl

meathman, he is making a point that he thinks his banning was uncalled for. Good to see almost nobody has taken a leaf from your book tho. You do know that you dont need to make some silly arguement or childish comment about every single post here. You can just discuss things also. In fact, in his original post, he only referred to himself twice. "His ban", which is the point of the thread and he also said "words like his", again fully on the topic of bannings. I would question who is 15 here to be honest.

Flukey

meathman 007 wrote:

you called the meath team thugs

As I said already, and if you had read the post you would know: No poster, player or team were mentioned in that post.

muffler

Flukey wrote:

and if you had read the post you would know: No........ team were mentioned in that post.

Thats odd


Originally Posted by Flukey
Thugs 2 - 14
Footballers 1 - 14

or did you mean that you did not name the team?

Goodshape

Flukey (the Offending Post) wrote:

Thugs 2 - 14
Footballers 1 - 14

And what were you hoping that would add to the conversation?

Obvious flamebait, and nothing else. From the date of the thread it looks like you were banned for a week. That seems compleatly reasonable to me.

Flukey

Come on now boys, read it carefully. You will find that as I said, no team is mentioned, no player is mentioned, no poster is mentioned and I can even add that no county is mentioned either.

Two people have now posted the post I posted, so we can expect them to be banned. I would argue that they shouldn't be, as I shouldn't have been, but if posting that is a crime for one then it should be for all.

meathman 007

Flukey wrote:

Come on now boys, read it carefully. You will find that as I said, no team is mentioned, no player is mentioned, no poster is mentioned and I can even add that no county is mentioned either.

Two people have now posted the post I posted, so we can expect them to be banned. I would argue that they shouldn't be, as I shouldn't have been, but if posting that is a crime for one then it should be for all.

this response is just a joke to be honest - you gave the scoreline to the meath v galway game and called meath thugs to bait the meath fans on the forum...... its just unreal that you are arguing your banning.... theres so many hypocrits on the gaa forum, they continiuosly talk rubbish about how everyone is against dublin and then they come out calling everyone outside the county redknecks and in flukeys case calling meath thugs.....

Flukey

this response is just a joke to be honest

The only joke in this whole affair was the ban itself. Far worse has been said without bans being imposed, and I would agree that those things did not deserve bans, so there was no need for a ban in my case either.

called meath thugs

For fear of repeating myself, though apparently it appears to be necessary, although if they are unable to read my post they may be unable to read this either:

No team is mentioned, no player is mentioned, no poster is mentioned and no county is mentioned either.

muffler

Flukey wrote:

Two people have now posted the post I posted, so we can expect them to be banned.

Why would you expect us to be banned. No team is mentioned, no player is mentioned and I can even add that no county is mentioned either.

Goodshape

Flukey wrote:

Two people have now posted the post I posted, so we can expect them to be banned. I would argue that they shouldn't be, as I shouldn't have been, but if posting that is a crime for one then it should be for all.

You think you were banned for posting the word 'thug'? Or can you simply not see the difference between posting a statement and quoting another user?

Flukey wrote:

No team is mentioned, no player is mentioned, no poster is mentioned and no county is mentioned either.

I'd have to argue that the average persons powers of deduction are quite possibly superior to your own.

Flukey

Goodshape, the word "thug" is not in there either.

Anyway, whatever is in there and whatever way some people are interpreting it, it did not deserve a ban. If it did, then a large amount of us would be banned, because a lot worse has been often said without bans being imposed, which as I said, I would agree with. So the question remains as to why a ban was given for that post.

Goodshape

Flukey wrote:

Goodshape, the word "thug" is not in there either.

Anyway, whatever is in there and whatever way some people are interpreting it, it did not deserve a ban. If it did, then a large amount of us would be banned, because a lot worse has been often said without bans being imposed, which as I said, I would agree with. So the question remains as to why a ban was given for that post.

Right. You are joking.

Haha, very good. 'Fight the power'

5starpool

Ibid wrote:

Whenever someone is banned from a forum, a notice is put on the Moderators forum so that mods don't go quietly banning people; they have to declare it.

That's news to me

I notice that some people do it, but I never have.

Flukey

No, I am serious Goodshape. We've all seen far worse than that posted. Anytime I have seen worse things than that posted, like the vast majority of people here it would not even cross my mind to complain about it, unlike some very sensitive souls around here apparently. Complaining about something like that is akin to calling for someone to get a red card for possibly fouling the ball.

kaimera

basically the last few weeks have seen a lot of crap posted and quite frankly I've had enough of it.

Stuff had been posted about players, teams and supporters with complete disregard for common sense let alone the charter in place. ffs I even had a second sticky in place for people to discuss the running of the forum.

The post added nothing and imo was flamebait. Initially I was going to ignore it but at the time it would have been more fuel on the fire from all my reading that I do.

The mod that banned flukey must either not be a regular reader of posts on the forum and/or have forgotten to drink his/her bottle of cop-on that day.

Warnings only go so far and I'm tired of being too soft on folk.

If you want to mod it, be my guest.

WhiteWashMan

*yawn*

tards 0

boards 1

(see what i did there?)

blackbelt

kaimera wrote:

basically the last few weeks have seen a lot of crap posted and quite frankly I've had enough of it.

Stuff had been posted about players, teams and supporters with complete disregard for common sense let alone the charter in place. ffs I even had a second sticky in place for people to discuss the running of the forum.

The post added nothing and imo was flamebait. Initially I was going to ignore it but at the time it would have been more fuel on the fire from all my reading that I do.



Warnings only go so far and I'm tired of being too soft on folk.

If you want to mod it, be my guest.

Yes please.:)

The Rooster

kaimera wrote:

Warnings only go so far and I'm tired of being too soft on folk.

Well you made a very odd choice on who to get tough on.

gandalf

LOL looks like GAA is the new soccer

Flukey

Notwithstanding the forum guidelines, with respect Kaimera, as this might have been considered a first and extremely petty offence, I was not given any warning. Far worse things have been said and no warnings were given and then I say something extremely minor and get a ban. I suppose it is appropriate that this happened in the GAA forum, as there is always complaints about the inconsistency of referees.

So in those terms we've had situations where fellas foul another guy and nothing is said. Then I come along and am extremely dubiously adjudged to have fouled the ball, with even the ref having his doubts, and then I get a straight red card, apparently because of a few very sensitive players. I only found that out because others came to me telling me what has happened in great detail, though I was not informed about any of it.

The rest of us here are able to take the hard knocks, get up, dust ourselves down and get on with playing the game without even looking in the referee's direction, while the sensitive ones run screaming at the slightest thing. As a result, I got banned for a minor offence, all with no warning and while even being told that I am an excellent player. It doesn't add up.

kaimera

More than yourself have been banned recently and imo they have been necessary bans.

Gandalf is right about GAA becoming the old soccer and if any of you remember it, it wasn't the greatest place to be.

Why bother posting if you can't be civil etc.

Your own ban, like I said I would have ignored the post normally but at the time there was too much crap wrt Meath in particular and your post would have ignited it again imo.

I also feel that the influx of new folk on the board is also taking it's toll. Give it time.

Waylander

gandalf wrote:

LOL looks like GAA is the new soccer

That is exactly how it is. I gave up posting on the soccer forum about 4 years ago as I was sick of the petty bickering about the same old topics, usually united v liverpool. Now the GAA forum is exactly the same, although you can replace Dublin and Meath for Man Utd and Liverpool. Am rapidly losing interest in posting in that forum anymore.

Flukey I think you are being a bit harsh on Kai. Several people have been banned, and he had warned that more would be. You used the word thug instead of scumbag in your post from what I gather, but it amounts to the same thing, and was always going to get a rise from other posters.

In the ordinary scheme of things I would have thought it harsh, but he had place a warning on the use of such words, and I think you knew it would get a reaction.

Hagar

What's the deal with all the keg throwing?
Has the hand-pass been done away with?

gandalf

Well the ban was totally deserved, trolling and bad trolling at that.

popebenny16

To be fair Flukey Kaimera had reposted the sticky about the crap that was going on. Now, ironically, after all the abuse hurled the way of the Dubs on the board by non-dubs, the first one to get banned was a Dub. Sadly, the sticky isn't retrospective and if it was a whole slew of posters would get banned.

And, yes, indeed, there are times when I fell that we Dubs are wasting our time on the GAA board here and I for one couldn't be arsed posting there anymore. Sadly though, because the likes of meathman get away with it so often, I feel the urge to post and correct them.

For example, all the mouths who keep saying that the Dubs are only sunshine supporters. What do you say about Tipp, Wexford, Kilkenny and Galway on Saturday? Even Sunday wasnt a sell out and none of the Tipp-Limerick games were either. Dublin -v- Offaly sold more and it was a nothing game from any perspective.

Would I bother starting a thread on it? Nah, sure I'd probably get a ban for inflaming. Let's just see how many threads are started about the Dubs showing up late post 11th August. Heh, at least we show up.

Just back on topic, you sadly fell the wrong side of a demarcation line. Weather it'll be enforced or not in resepct of all counties I have my doubts. Yes, there are a lot of new posters on the board and I know i only post on it during the summer but the sheer anti-dublin tone of it maybe keeping many dublin posters away and as I said, it's led to me posting elsewhere on GAA because I'm sick of it.

faceman

Banning rightly or wrongly its seems that Kaimera has clarified why the banning was carried out. Flukey seems like a decent skin not intent on causing trouble, maybe if he was to acknowledge Kaimera's reasoning and to say he wouldnt do it again the banning could be undone sooner?

Goodshape

faceman wrote:

maybe if he was to acknowledge Kaimera's reasoning and to say he wouldnt do it again the banning could be undone sooner?

The banning is 'undone' as far as I can see. It was a one-week ban. Flukey's just making mountains out of molehills.