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The Preair Thread [US - Spoilers]

  • 23-07-2007 11:39am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭


    With pilot episodes for The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Chuck, Pushing Daisies, Reaper, etc. out in the wild (with more pilots to follow_, what do people think?

    Anyone watched any of them (and will they last longer than 4 or 5 episodes!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    I will be watching Reaper and The Sarah Connors Chronicles later in the week. I didnt realise Pushing Daisies was around.. BTW.. Dexter Season 2 is around also.. First 2 episodes of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    As are the first two episodes of Weeds season 3, Brotherhood season 2, and the pilot episode of that new David Duchovny show 'Californication'.
    Along with last nights episode of Entourage and the pilot ep of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, I've a long night of viewing ahead of me.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    gazzer wrote:
    BTW.. Dexter Season 2 is around also.. First 2 episodes of it.
    !!!!!!OMG!!!onetyeleven! There are not enough exclamation marks on my keyboard to proclaim my alarm at missing this till now. Must get ASAP.

    I have Sarah Connor on her way to me right now, hopefully get a chance to watch it this evening but I've a lot on.

    Hadn't heard of Californication so I must take a look for that. Good news on Brotherhood there too, very much enjoyed season 1 so looking forward to the second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    jor el wrote:
    Hadn't heard of Californication so I must take a look for that.

    Just watched it, it's really good. Duchovny is brilliant in it.
    I haven't see as much nudity in a single episode of a tv show since Rome, though, it was literally every 5 minutes. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭aequinoctium


    where can one find Californication?

    i love david duchovny!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    where can one find Californication?

    i love david duchovny!

    I don't, he just plays David Duchovny in everything, which I am fairly meh about anyhow.

    Man has no range, imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Just watched californication.... loved it !
    Very funny show (and because its showtime, it'll get a full run, regardless!)

    Thanks for the tip. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    The-Rigger wrote:
    I don't, he just plays David Duchovny in everything, which I am fairly meh about anyhow.

    Man has no range, imo

    Yeah, your probably right, he can be very wooden.
    where can one find Californication?

    i love david duchovny!

    You can watch the entire pilot episode here and make up your own mind about it.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Just located the pilot for Bionic Woman. Excellent. I am going to spend the weekend watching that along with Repear, Sarah Connor Chronicles, Chuck, Pushing Daisies and the first 2 eps of season 2 of Dexter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Saw reaper the other night. I was hoping for some dark, thriller type show and instead got some teen ish comedy.

    I'll probably still watch it for a while but i ain't getting my hopes up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Had a look at Reaper, Sarah Connor and Pushing Daises. Of the three I would say that Sarah Connor looks the best shot, although I may keep an eye on Reaper. I am not at all convinced by Pushing Daisies. I don't know if it will do well or even how long it will last.

    Where Dead Like Me was very quirky and Wonderfalls was weird, Pushing Daisies seems to be trying to do both and does not look like succeeding in either. With the abundance of supernatural and sci-fi shows coming up it could be one to lose out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Good man Dave for starting us this always popular pre-air thread!

    Haven't watched any of the pre-airs yet but they're winging their way to me!

    Trust the week i go on holiday for all this amazing stuff to leak! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ''The Bionic Woman' pilot has leaked... let's see if Kelly Slater can actually hold a show!

    EDIT: Sorry.. just noticed gazzer's post!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Lots of good stuff. Chuck sounded like Jake 2.0 (2.0), but its better. Californication is a good laugh, Reaper will be finished before its full run (my prediction). I like pushing daisies alot (but it might be TOO quirky for the fickle yanks).

    Still have to watch Sarah Connor and the Bionic Woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    A very poor quality 'Aliens in America' has leaked also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    basquille wrote:
    ''The Bionic Woman' pilot has leaked... let's see if Kelly Slater can actually hold a show!

    EDIT: Sorry.. just noticed gazzer's post!


    Just watched it and the answer is no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    First of my reviews of the pre-airs. Will put them up as i watch them:

    Reaper: An extremely fresh and witty show with a very likeable and funny cast, especially the very under-rated Bret Harrison who, like his starring role in 'The Loop', proves he can more than handle carrying a show.

    Also Tyler Labine is also very funny as Sock - an actor who i saw a year or two back in 'Invasion' and could not place where i'd seen him before. Turns out it was that woeful kiddy drama 'Breaker High' from my youth!

    Not to mention Ray Wise who is just "cool" defined as The Devil.

    Was quite odd as it's started off very comedic - and then descended into quite a dark supernatural drama (not too far off 'Supernatural') but retained that fresh comic feel.

    I really enjoyed it!

    PS - the soundtrack was absolutely fantastic too. Beck, Blue Oyster Cult, Iron & Wine, The Fratellis, Silversun Pickups. Really great mix of music!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    The Sarah Connors Chronicles

    This seems to be set right after T2 and the main cast do a good enough job portraying the various characters that survived the second movie. The writers seem to have gone with a wimpy T3 John Connor which sucks, but Sarah is spot on from T2. The new protector works good enough tho more catchy one liners are needed. The Terminators themselves just seem like wussies after Arnie and their makeup/damage effects seems up to scratch so no complaints there.

    Good pliot for setting up the series that does a hell of a lot better than most people on the net reckoned it would. I can see this lasting the full season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Venom wrote:
    The Sarah Connors Chronicles.
    I can see this lasting the full season.

    That's pretty much a given since FOX ordered a full(for a midseason show) 13 episode order.icon_wink.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Just noticed the third episode of Weeds has also been leaked.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    That's pretty much a given since FOX ordered a full(for a midseason show) 13 episode order.icon_wink.gif


    In America bad tv shows that do awful in the ratings get pulled no matter how many episodes are made ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Just finished the Chuck pilot... great fun, absolutely laugh out loud funny in places.

    However due to the Curse of Adam Baldwin (tm), it won't last past 6 episodes. Chuck, we hardly knew ya. Lets hope Yvonne Strzechowski (yes, I looked her up) gets a new job quickly afterwards. Just, wow. You'll know when you see her.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Watched three of them tonight (how else do you spend a Friday night):

    Pushing Daisies - I liked this. It was very colourful, distinctive, and it had a nice idea with a quirkiness that echoed a little of 'Dead Like Me'. However, it was very condensed - the pilot could easily have been spread out over a longer two parter and a lot was revealed in the opening, leaving little room for anything new in the series.
    The cinematic feel was lovely, but I'm not sure how a full series would work and where it could go without becoming stale. Still interested in seeing how it progresses.

    The Sarah Connor Chronicles - Surprisingly decent (especially when I expected it to be astonishingly awful). Good casting with Lena Headey, who bears more than a passing resemblance to Linda Hamilton. Thomas Dekker is fine as John, although I still have to separate him from Zack in 'Heroes'. Summer Glau is good enough but it's a bit hard to take her seriously as a teenager when she's been playing older roles recently in 'The 4400' and 'The Unit'.
    The premise of the show is fine, and I'm relieved to hear they're ignoring T3 (as it wouldn't make sense not to). The terminator chasing them was well enough done and we can see money clearly went into the pilot. Not sure about a female teenage terminator yet, but we'll see how it pans out.
    Nice enough tie-ins to the films, although - as pointed elsewhere on the interweb - they could have got the years right ('95 - not '97 - is when T2 is set).
    Jumping into our present day makes more sense than '99 but hope we don't have many episodes spent on them readjusting. Also, like 'Pushing Daisies', I wonder how it will work on a weekly basis - a different terminator each week? If not, what will be the dangers they're facing?

    Reaper - Definitely enjoyed this one. Great balance between humour and story and probably the best all round casting of the three pilots I watched. I also think it's got the most potential of the three, being able to work episodically with more variety than the other two and yet room for an arc.
    Liked the music as well and how refreshing was it to hear a piece from 'Requiem for a Dream' being used that wasn't Lux Aeterna!
    It seems, potentially, like a lighter 'Brimstone' that could go the distance. Most promising of the three for me and definitely going to check it out when it debuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Ye Sarah Connor Chronicles wasn't as bad as I thought it would be,watchable. I like Summer Glau but I don't know if I buy her as a Terminator yet. I thought it was supposed to take place between T2 and T3,that is what I heard originally but then they skip to 07 so I was wondering what was going on there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    The 4th episode of Weeds has just arrived on my doorstep.

    EDIT: As have Cavemen and The Big Bang Theory


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Reynolds.irl


    TmB wrote:
    Just finished the Chuck pilot... great fun, absolutely laugh out loud funny in places.

    After i read what it was about and that Josh Schwartz was behind it I started to loose hope, but I'm sure I'll give it a go now.

    I heard The Big Bang Theory wasn't supposed to be that great. Sarah Connor Chronicles was good though looking forward to now, I was a bit worried about a Terminator series but hopefully it'll keep going and get a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    OK.. have been playing catch-up and here's what i think so far.

    Chuck: From the creator of 'The OC', i was expecting something terrible but it actually was a quite fun comedy drama romp of sorts. It was pure un-adulterated bullsh*t from start to finish regarding the viruses and such, but it's easy to ignore all the technological foibles. It was funny but not laugh-out-loud funny - the tape around the fingers for Call Of Duty gave me a giggle. But as a computer programmer and self-confessed NEEEERD, any computer related jokes which go over some peoples heads give me a giggle. Good to see Adam "Jayne" Baldwin and Tony "Candyman" Todd in something too. Was quite a departure from 'The OC' so kudos to Josh Schwartz for that. A promising pilot all the same.

    Bionic Woman: I was dreading this but i actually really enjoyed it. Some of the special effects which needed to be inserted really did feel missing as it was, at it's heart, always gonna be about visuals. Michelle Ryan wasn't bad. Good to see Egg (i mean Ann) from 'Arrested Development' in something new too. I think Starbuck from 'Battlestar Galactica' was the only character who felt out of place.. while she always had a butch appearance and physique in BSG, she just came off a bit unprepared for the role in this. She wasn't bad but if she played it closer to Starbuck's character, it would have been more convincing. Could be very good but it could lose steam a few episodes in as i think this suffers from what most of the pilots this year do - the sheer appearance of longevity in their storylines is lacking. Sarah Connor Chronicles suffers from it, Chuck suffers from it and this also does. The only pilot i've seen which doesn't (so far) is 'Reaper' which is fresh, witty and could (given the audience) last years!

    The Sarah Connor Chronicles: Big ol' meh from me. Everything just felt a little bit thrown together. Summer Glau (who is always watchable) was a daft choice for 'The Terminator'. We need a Terminator with a tough growl of a voice and butch as feck, not this mousy voice coming from a tiny framed girl - it just feels odd! Lena Headey as Sarah Connor was a fine choice, the jury is still out on Thomas Dekker as John Connor (he does seem a bit meek). Every bit that was inventive (the schoolroom scene) was evened out with cliched moments (the opening being a dream... OBVIOUS almost immediately!). Bur all-in-all, it was watchable but far from my favourite of the pilots.

    To summarise what i've seen so far.. it's been a damn fine year for pilots. Last year was full of weak pilots but this year certainly has a nice mix. But not giving much hope to 'Cavemen' or 'The Big Bang Theory'.. good half-hour comedies come very rarely nowadays to be honest.

    Still to watch: Califonication, Pushing Daisies, Weeds (eps 1 - 4), The Big Bang Theory (** shudder **), Cavemen (** shudder ** X 2)

    PS - anyone else notice the number of actresses from Britain playing Americans in the pilots?

    - Michelle Ryan in 'Bionic Woman'
    - Lena Headey in 'The Sarah Connor Chronicles'
    - Anna Friel in 'Pushing Daisies'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    basquille wrote:
    The 4th episode of Weeds has just arrived on my doorstep.

    EDIT: As have Cavemen and The Big Bang Theory

    thanks for the tip there own there way, ive been looking forward to bing bang theroy must be dhl international supersonic shipping or something with the speed its on the way as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    basquille wrote:
    Bionic Woman: I was dreading this but i actually really enjoyed it. Some of the special effects which needed to be inserted really did feel missing as it was, at it's heart, always gonna be about visuals.

    Before I aquire this, are there visuals missing from the copy that is out there? I'd prefer to wait until the full version is out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    basquille wrote:
    Chuck: From the creator of 'The OC' ... It was funny but not laugh-out-loud funny
    A bit harsh, Brian... I had a good belly laugh at the ninja scene (slapstick involving the crotch is always hilarious), and the mexican music scene near the end was priceless.....

    And you're right about the abundance of British actresses in this years pilots... The standout was Anna Friel in Pushing Daisies (watch that next!) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    tvnutz wrote:
    Before I aquire this, are there visuals missing from the copy that is out there? I'd prefer to wait until the full version is out.
    There are a couple of FX shots which are needed to be inserted... some more noticeable than others. But it's hard to know if some were in fact are to be inserted, or were just left looking daft in need of a bit of a CGI. Example:
    when the little girl in the car is looking at her run through the forest, i thought i was watching a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon. It looked horrible!
    TmB wrote:
    A bit harsh, Brian... I had a good belly laugh at the ninja scene (slapstick involving the crotch is always hilarious), and the mexican music scene near the end was priceless.....
    Don't get me wrong - I really enjoyed Chuck.... it was a very entertaining watch but i just didn't laugh out loud at some of the humour. The ninja scene was funny but i'd already seen that from that site that had previews of all the Fall pilots.
    TmB wrote:
    The standout was Anna Friel in Pushing Daisies (watch that next!) :)
    Saving the best til last.... that's last! :D Should get it watched by tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    basquille that shot you commented on from Bionic woman truely has to be seen to grasp how damm awful it is. People who havent seen it just imagine Golum running 20 times faster than he should will give you an idea :)

    As for the missing effects I got the impression it was just the opening and closing credits that were missing.


    As for the Sarah Connor's show I reckon it will be a 2-3 different Terminators for the season in various stages of battle damage, the FBI guy chasing then believing in Sarah and a shadowy corporation working on the Skynet system trying to take the heroes out. I hope tho than John teaching T-teen about humans and love is not gonna happen :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I have to say I enjoyed Bionic Woman (watched it tonight). That side-on shot of her running through the forest was woeful though... absolutely terrible!

    Series shows promise though (and it was darker than I expected too). No cheesy slo-mo and ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch sound effects!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Just watched 'Chuck' and was a little bit disappointed after it being hyped up here. I think the tech. nonsense rankled with me a little too much (remember I did start a thread on such things in this forum and this pilot broke nearly every complaint in 40 mins!).

    The humour was good but the "working in a department store, with a geeky mate and trying to get the girl" thing was too familiar, probably from having seen "Reaper" the night before.

    Still, as a premise, I believe it has potential, the most after "Reaper" that I've watched so far, so it'll be adding to the cousin's video packages come "Fall".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Yep, the 'Bionic Woman' forest shot is hilarious! As for Venom pointing out he got the impression only the opening and closing credits were missing, i distinctly remember there was a red slash through the screen with 'VFX Insert' when she was lying in the bed being shown her body with the hermaphrodites (** snigger **) or whatever they're called!

    Pushing Daisies: I loved this. Everything in it felt so surreal - had some of the oddest dialogue, sets and colours i've think i've ever seen in commercial TV. The show itself felt like one big fairytale - not too far off 'Big Fish'. The narration was fun, the characters were barely developed but you still felt you could sympathise with them. Unfortunately.. if the series is anything like the pilot, American audiences will (without a shadow of a doubt) switch this off immediately. It's fun, different, odd, surreal, enticing and completely devoid of any reality TV, boobs, violence or anything the US audience might watch in their drones. Shame! :(

    Californication: This was very good... simply because of Duchovny but i've always thought the man is hilarious. Anyone who has seen his multiple appearances on Larry Sanders knows the guy has a sense of humour? And this show really was well written, cast were decent and set up the rest of the season nicely. Best line of the show: "
    she has no hair on her vagina... do you think she's OK?
    . Luckily for us, Californication is starting in a few weeks so less time to wait for that.

    Also watched Weeds (eps 1 - 4) which were as usual pretty good. Some moments did feel a bit tired but there was more than enough good to outweight the bad. But seriously, how old did Matthew Modine and Princess Leia look?! :eek:

    Having watched pretty much all of the promising pilots so far ('Cavemen', 'The Big Bang Theory' and 'Aliens In America' aside), the ones that definitely are favourites of mine are 'Pushing Daisies' (but it won't last with US audiences, i give it 5 - 6 episodes) and 'Reaper' (excellent pilot and could go the distance).

    The ones that will last at least the season are 'The Sarah Connor Chronicles' and 'The Bionic Woman' (everything else is up in the air depending on network - Fox shows, take heed of this!)


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Basquille - how do you see "Pushing Daisies" working on a weekly basis? My biggest problem isn't with the pilot but more with the potential longevity of the series before it became repetitive.

    Next up for me: Bionic Woman.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    And now I'll chime in on:

    Bionic Woman - Actually thought this was pretty good, helped by a reasonably dark tone. I also think it's got more longevity than say 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' as I think there's more scope to its premise.
    Acting was fine and I think Sackhoff was good in the role (although it didn't help that we had two BSG main stars in the pilot!) and Egg taking on quite a different role, somewhat challenging I'd imagine.
    Interestingly, the reviews are pretty poor online but they make a point of saying that there's been many scenes reshot/redone (including, we can assume, that forest scene..). One of the changes is the recasting of her sister, so Egg mightn't be with us after all!
    Good, not great. One more to watch ('Californication') and then I'll see what I think will go the distance or not (no interest in 'Cavemen' or 'The Big Bang Theory' - Basquille can tell me if I'm wrong in that!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ixoy wrote:
    Basquille - how do you see "Pushing Daisies" working on a weekly basis? My biggest problem isn't with the pilot but more with the potential longevity of the series before it became repetitive.
    Yeah, that was something i should have addressed. I knew there was a reason i mentioned "if the series is anything like the pilot.." in my original post. I can, for one, see the actual series being quite different (at least in terms of the fairytale aspect) to the actual series.

    I got the appearance from the pilot that Coeur de Coeur (think that's what it was called) was meant to give off this vibrant colour - of childhood, young love and generally just a "fairytale setting".

    Outside of Coeur de Coeur, we still got some "fairytale-ish" aspects but it was less obvious and vibrant - similar to Jaye's hallucinations in Wonderfalls.

    I can see it working week-by-week exactly how it was set up in the pilot. With Ned, Chuck and Emerson using Ned's ability to solve murders using victim's statements and such - while developing the quite-cute-though-sometimes-nauseating relationship of Ned and Chuck.

    This will probably work quite well for the six episodes it'll air for! :D

    But we've seen Bryan Fuller's past efforts in television before... the man is quite inventive. I'm sure he's got at least somewhat of a plan mapped out. I will agree that if it's a weekly show it definitely needs something more to keep us interested, and that the setup in the pilot wasn't nearly enough on it's own.
    ixoy wrote:
    Bionic Woman - Actually thought this was pretty good, helped by a reasonably dark tone. I also think it's got more longevity than say 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' as I think there's more scope to its premise.
    Acting was fine and I think Sackhoff was good in the role (although it didn't help that we had two BSG main stars in the pilot!) and Egg taking on quite a different role, somewhat challenging I'd imagine.
    Interestingly, the reviews are pretty poor online but they make a point of saying that there's been many scenes reshot/redone (including, we can assume, that forest scene..). One of the changes is the recasting of her sister, so Egg mightn't be with us after all!
    Good, not great.
    Agreed it's got more longevity than 'The Sarah Connor Chronicles' anyways!

    The pilots have been awash with recasts this year - the most interesting being the recast of Sam's love interest (Andi) in 'Reaper'. They've replaced Nikki Reed (who Kevin Smith said at Comic Con was "terrible in the role") with the foxy Missy Peregrym (who we most recently saw as Candice in 'Heroes' last season)..... MEEEEOOOWWW!
    ixoy wrote:
    One more to watch ('Californication') and then I'll see what I think will go the distance or not (no interest in 'Cavemen' or 'The Big Bang Theory' - Basquille can tell me if I'm wrong in that!).
    I watched a couple of minutes of 'The Big Bang Theory' and thought it was formulaic tired crap so skip-it! I don't think i'm even gonna bother with 'Cavemen' (have heard nothing but awful things). 'Californication' was great though.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Just watched -->

    Californication - This was good and I was pleasantly surprised by DD whom I was never overly fond of, despite years spent watching 'The X-Files'. His deadpan humour suits this a lot more (and makes me look forward to his appearances on 'The Larry Sanders Show').
    Premise is nothing amazing but that's not important for this type of show and I think this could one could last.

    So here's my own predictions:

    First to be Cancelled: Chuck

    Second to be Cancelled: Pushing Daisies

    Half-a-season/No-more-than-Full Season: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Bionic Woman

    Multiple Seasons: Reaper, Californication

    Let's see how I do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Based on the trailers alone I would reckon Cavemen should be the first to go,unless the American audiences carry on their trait of giving crap shows huge audiences.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    tvnutz wrote:
    Based on the trailers alone I would reckon Cavemen should be the first to go,unless the American audiences carry on their trait of giving crap shows huge audiences.
    Oh well I'm basing it on the ones I've seen. 'Cavemen' sounds so incredibly awful that it barely registers in my consciousness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    Sarah Connor, Reaper and Chuck were all quite watchable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    just tried to watch cavemen there, myself and my mate got 8 mins in then said bail. If that show lasts where knights of prosperity didnt i will be very unhappy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Hmm, just looking up Cavemen on tv.com and it sayd "The pilot is based on the Geico commercials ". Well I was in New York earlier this year and did see those terrible Geico ads so I can only imagine how truely awful a series based on them would be. Even reading the blurb about it makes me never want to watch it. I wouldn't be surprised if it lasted years though.

    I was going to get the Big Bang Theory, but it sounds almost as bad as Cavemen. Two nerds and a hot blonde, cue nerds discovering "what they've been missing" :rolleyes: No, just no.

    Watched Californication and I really liked it. Some excellent one liners in it, brilliant acting by Duchovny (who said he's always the same?). Really looking forward to this, and since it's on Showtime it'll at least get a full season run. Hope it goes further too.

    Sarah Connor and Bionic Woman were good, not great, but still good. Like Jericho last year and Invasion the previous year, they've got a good story and are interesting, but I just can't see either lasting. They just felt like exactly the kind of show that networks love to cancel, just when you're getting into it.
    ixoy wrote:
    So here's my own predictions:

    First to be Cancelled: Chuck

    Second to be Cancelled: Pushing Daisies

    Half-a-season/No-more-than-Full Season: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Bionic Woman

    Multiple Seasons: Reaper, Californication

    Let's see how I do!
    I wonder will Paddy Power take bets on this prediction? I'll have €20 on ixoy please.

    Have yet to watch Reaper, Chuck and Pushing Daisies. Might try and fit them in this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It seems that Cane with Jimmy Smits is out in the wild as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ixoy wrote:
    First to be Cancelled: Chuck

    Second to be Cancelled: Pushing Daisies

    Half-a-season/No-more-than-Full Season: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Bionic Woman

    Multiple Seasons: Reaper, Californication
    I'm with ixoy except swap 'Pushing Daisies' and 'Chuck' making it:
    Myself wrote:
    First to be Cancelled: Pushing Daisies

    Second to be Cancelled: Chuck

    Half-a-season/No-more-than-Full Season: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, The Bionic Woman

    Multiple Seasons: Reaper, Californication
    The American audiences will (at least for a short time) eat up 'Chuck' - it's mindless silly fun. Whereas 'Pushing Daisies' is intelligent, well-written food for the brain - exactly the type of thing American audiences will not flock to watch!


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    Watched the Sarah Connor thing yesterday and I have to say it wasn't as awful as I thought it would be. Thats not to say its really good either.Lena Headey was good as Sarah Conor. I just didn't buy Summer Glau as a terminator. Same problem as Terminator 3 here, I just can't picture hot chicks as terminators. I didn't like the guy who played John Connor either. The guy who played the other terminator was ok I suppose but he sure as hell isn't Schwarzenegger.
    Had a look at Bionic Woman as well and was not impressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    The thing in Pushing Daisies where they keep repeating "14 years, 6 months bla bla" got really fkin annoying. apart from that it was good

    Californication was pretty cool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Mad Men - Dull. Avoid.
    Burn Notice - Urgh. Fought to get past that Irish accent, and once I did, regretted it.
    Cavemen - Some good quips, my #1 for first dropped show
    Saving Grace - Highway to Heaven with Holly Hunter. Wanted to rip out own throat.
    Pushing Daisies - Loved it. Great colour, vivid characters, very odd but promising concept, and Anna Friel. A Keeper.
    Reaper - Top notch! Hope they keep it going for many seasons..

    Keepers: Reaper and pushing Daisies
    Flush-list: All of the others.

    To see: Chuck, Californication.
    Anyone know where these pre-airs came from?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    sarah connor was good, would watch, not on tv until 2008 though


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