Japanese Akita .. Dangerous Dog ?

Zapperzy

Oranage2 wrote: »

Unsocialised dogs are a big problem and you can see a lot of the time its the small terrier types but because of there size the get away with murder -

So many dogs are un-socialised because they're left at the back all day and walked once or twice a week - Other dogs arent trained at all

The problem with the restriced breed list is that all the dogs on it are big and powerful - so an unsocialised akita that attacks is going to do a lot more damage than if a jack russel does.

So anyone wanting to get an Akita or other big dogs, the key is training, socialising and exercising. This is true for every dog but more so bigger breeds.

Not argueing with you I do agree with what your saying but so are st bernards and irish wolfhounds and they aren't on the rb list. Staffies are on that list and they are much much smaller than say a great dane who is not.

Oranage2

Zapperzy wrote: »

Not argueing with you I do agree with what your saying but so are st bernards and irish wolfhounds and they aren't on the rb list. Staffies are on that list and they are much much smaller than say a great dane who is not.

Yeah I wonder how they came up with the list too when there could easily be another 20 dogs on it that could meet the criteria - Im sure they just followed most likely brittish and USA legistration anyway like when have you ever heard of a Japanese Tosa in Ireland?

And the reason why I'd say staffies are on it is because of the popularity of the breed, its the first choice dog amongst the scum and it would be easier for the goverment just to have the one blanket rule that covers the dog which really doesnt work since they're never muzzled no matter how vicious they are. (not that i advicate muzzling dogs)

The only people that the restricted breeds affect is the responsible owners who leash their dogs. I kinda feel sorry when i see a german shepherd on a leash, theres noway the dog will get enough excerise if its just on the leash.

Tito Ortiz

adser53 wrote: »

I cant believe that a fellow Akita owner could make such a sweeping and inaccurate statement.
Female Akitas are not very aggressive with other female dogs by nature. As with ALL dogs, a socialised Akita will get on famously with all dogs regardless of sex and breed. Just ask my 3 (male Akita, female akita & female cavalier- the latter 2 being best buddies)

Well lucky for you, you are in the position of owning more than one dog. My girl is a house Akita and spends all day with my partner and our daughter. Never once have we had an unsocial behaviour towards any of us. She is walked everyday and trained to avery high standard. Maybe if you see us around Portlaoise say hello, thats if you can come down off that high horse of course !!!

Akita's are very protective and in my 15yrs of having them have found that they are more aggressive towards other female dogs. This is my opinion and based purely on that alone...

adser53

Tito Ortiz wrote: »

Well lucky for you, you are in the position of owning more than one dog. My girl is a house Akita and spends all day with my partner and our daughter. Never once have we had an unsocial behaviour towards any of us. She is walked everyday and trained to avery high standard. Maybe if you see us around Portlaoise say hello, thats if you can come down off that high horse of course !!!

Akita's are very protective and in my 15yrs of having them have found that they are more aggressive towards other female dogs. This is my opinion and based purely on that alone...

I like it up here on my high horse but fear not I'd gladly say hello to you and your Akita. It'll only help to socialise them further
Owning multiple dogs is irrelevant as dogs can be best friends with their other canine housemates and still be aggressive with strange dogs. A well socialised dog wouldn't be put out by other dogs they're unfamiliar with (hence the term socialised). My problem with your comment was that you said that female akitas are VERY aggressive with other females which is a very sweeping statement to make. Yours may well be but the majority of them aren't. If you had a vicious JRT would you say all JRTs are vicious?

I'm not going to argue with you as your fully entitled to your opinion but Akitas and all the other RBs get a hard time in general from the media and people with little or no experience with them because of the actions of a minority of owners. So I feel very strongly about comments that perpetuate the myth that they have a predisposition to aggression in any shape or form.

Now I'm off for a gallop on my high horse. Giddy-up!

annascott

Zapperzy wrote: »

Not argueing with you I do agree with what your saying but so are st bernards and irish wolfhounds and they aren't on the rb list. Staffies are on that list and they are much much smaller than say a great dane who is not.

I just can't imagine an Irish Wolfhound ever having the energy or interest to be nasty or aggressive.

Shanao

Socialisating a dog goes for both humans and dogs, you could have the most human friendly dog in the world, but if they haven't been properly socialised with dogs, then there's a problem. I had so many people warn me about the akitas not mixing with other dogs, not being able to tolerate the same sex etc, (obviously they didn't have a clue) and then I met the breeder who owns my fella's grandparents. She has two males and three females, all akitas, none related, and they all live together in perfect harmony. My dog is like them, any dogs at all can come in to the house (we foster and rescue now and again) and there has never been a problem because he has been socialised from day one with other dogs. Only recently we had an intact foster greyhound who slept on top of him!!

So, like adser, I find that statement a bit ridiculous and unfair, especially from another akita owner of all people. I've had people ask me are they vicious while their children are hanging onto his lips or ears (!?), he plays extremely gently with any puppies or smaller dogs, and though he can get a little boisterous around dogs his own size, he has never shown an ounce of aggression towards them. Its just a little depressing finding another RB owner who will willingly help spread the misinformation about our breed.

Shanao

annascott wrote: »

I just can't imagine an Irish Wolfhound ever having the energy or interest to be nasty or aggressive.

The hounds that wiped out the wolf and wild boars of Ireland? Surely you jest? If someone trained it to be aggressive, then yes you would have a large, powerful dangerous dog on your hands.
Dogs are not born interested in being nasty or aggressive, we make them that way by training them. For example, the Japanese akita is on the RB list because it was used for dogfighting- Note: USED for fighting, not bred for it. And they were first used in the UK for fighting, the fighting breed in Japan was not actually the akita but tosa mixes. So people somehow got it into their heads that this was a dogfighting breed that hated all other dogs. Yes, it will; if you DONT socialise it.