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Dodging vrt?

  • 30-06-2007 9:46pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭


    There has been a Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 on foreign plates in my town for about 6 months. What can I do about it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Shove a Spud up the exhaust pipe , sit back and watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    good plan, but do you have any legal alternative incase I don't want to go down that route?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    tuxy wrote:
    There has been a Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 on foreign plates in my town for about 6 months. What can I do about it?
    Mind your own business


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    tuxy wrote:
    good plan, but do you have any legal alternative incase I don't want to go down that route?
    put a call through to customs, if you wish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭gary the great


    Get a life, thats what you should do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Zascar wrote:
    Mind your own business

    So only people originally from Ireland should pay VRT?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Contact your local VRO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    For the n-th time ...

    Not everybody driving around on foreign plates is automatically a tax dodger. There ARE exemptions, you know ...

    IT guy (or girl) on temporary contract, for example.

    With a car that provides such potentially rich pickings in vehicle robbery tax the VRO will go after them soon enough.

    Now contain your envy and get on with life ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    What life?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    peasant wrote:
    For the n-th time ...

    Not everybody driving around on foreign plates is automatically a tax dodger. There ARE exemptions, you know ...

    IT guy (or girl) on temporary contract, for example.

    With a car that provides such potentially rich pickings in vehicle robbery tax the VRO will go after them soon enough.

    Now contain your envy and get on with life ...

    Down here there's a Polish VW Transporter which is virtually new and has logos advertising Renovation Work with an 087 so I presume they'd be liable to VRT ? Not envious by the way - that van would be way too big..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    I wish I owned a town.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    i cant believe im reading this? its none of your business if someone has a car on forign plates over here., you really ned to go get a hobby and keep out of other peoples business.,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Dundalk Daily


    Cant believe im reading this either, jesus get a life. The system in thus country screws you that much I sat fair play if you can screw it back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭nastysimon


    Cant believe im reading this either, jesus get a life. The system in thus country screws you that much I sat fair play if you can screw it back.
    The "system" as you like to call it is society, or more appropriately, us. It makes demands on all of us and one of these is VRT. If I pay VRT and someone else evades it, then effectively I am paying for them. Ultimately, all tax evasion is a form of theft and anything you can do to stop it is to be encouraged. If everyone payed all the taxes that they were supposed to, there would be less to pay by the majority (it's a minority that are actually screwing the system, but the majority pay for them).
    If you think he is evading paying VRT, talk to your local revenue office or VRO. If he is screwing you, why shouldn't you screw back. And if he's not, the VRO will check him out, find him to be clear and you'll not feel annoyed with him for screwing you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    parsi wrote:
    Down here there's a Polish VW Transporter which is virtually new and has logos advertising Renovation Work with an 087 so I presume they'd be liable to VRT ? Not envious by the way - that van would be way too big..

    It's only €50 for them to VRT that van so I'm sure there's good reason for them not:cool:


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    Only 50. Jeez that's cheap. Nice van though..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭j2dab


    nastysimon wrote:
    The "system" as you like to call it is society, or more appropriately, us. It makes demands on all of us and one of these is VRT. If I pay VRT and someone else evades it, then effectively I am paying for them. Ultimately, all tax evasion is a form of theft and anything you can do to stop it is to be encouraged. If everyone payed all the taxes that they were supposed to, there would be less to pay by the majority (it's a minority that are actually screwing the system, but the majority pay for them).
    If you think he is evading paying VRT, talk to your local revenue office or VRO. If he is screwing you, why shouldn't you screw back. And if he's not, the VRO will check him out, find him to be clear and you'll not feel annoyed with him for screwing you.

    You actually believe that if everbody paid VRT, it would start to become lower? The VRT has made the Government more money then they ever expected to make off it, there is no way that everyone who doesnt pay it are keeping the prices higher.

    And as for this thread even existing. It is a complete joke! Someone really needs to get a life.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Grass them up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,118 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    nastysimon wrote:
    The "system" as you like to call it is society, or more appropriately, us. It makes demands on all of us and one of these is VRT. If I pay VRT and someone else evades it, then effectively I am paying for them. Ultimately, all tax evasion is a form of theft and anything you can do to stop it is to be encouraged

    Well said, nastysimon. It is not up to an individual to decide he / she is already paying "enough" so he / she is not going to pay for the next tax / charge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭j2dab


    unkel wrote:
    It is not up to an individual to decide he / she is already paying "enough" so he / she is not going to pay for the next tax / charge

    Exactly - but if they want to risk it, let them. There is no point ratting them up. They will get caught eventually but it is no one elses business


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭nastysimon


    j2dab wrote:
    You actually believe that if everbody paid VRT, it would start to become lower? The VRT has made the Government more money then they ever expected to make off it, there is no way that everyone who doesnt pay it are keeping the prices higher.

    And as for this thread even existing. It is a complete joke! Someone really needs to get a life.
    If everyone paid their dues, then those who do pay would pay less. Maybe not in VRT, but judging by the government's past performance, they would probably reduce income tax. All the taxes have to go somewhere and all that happens when one does not pay one's dues is that everyone else pays for them.
    Exactly - but if they want to risk it, let them. There is no point ratting them up. They will get caught eventually but it is no one elses business
    Actually, it is everyone's business as if someone is evading tax, they are stealing from everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭endplate


    A sales rep that visits me works for an English based company. His company car has english plates and he's based in Ireland. He carries paperwork with him to declare the car is legal to be used in Ireland as he gets stopped often by customs. But it proves all foreign cars are not illegal here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    If a vehicle is in the state for more than 187 days then it must be registered here. VRT will then be liable except if owned abroad for 6 months or more, proof of which is required.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    How would you like it if someone followed you around and reported you for any slightly immorral or illegal thing you did!

    Seriously, get on with your own life and stop worrying about other peoples wrongdoings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭j2dab


    nastysimon wrote:
    If everyone paid their dues, then those who do pay would pay less. Maybe not in VRT, but judging by the government's past performance, they would probably reduce income tax. All the taxes have to go somewhere and all that happens when one does not pay one's dues is that everyone else pays for them.

    Thats fine, completely understand the thread is "Dodging VRT" though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    In fairness, someone driving around with yellow plates for 6 months or more is not only dodging VRT, but they're also flaunting the fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Zascar wrote:
    How would you like it if someone followed you around and reported you for any slightly immorral or illegal thing you did!

    Seriously, get on with your own life and stop worrying about other peoples wrongdoings.
    It's not 'slightly immoral or illegal', it's stealing from us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭j2dab


    Anan1 wrote:
    It's not 'slightly immoral or illegal', it's stealing from us.

    Stealing from us? prices would not go down if everybody paid it. How do you consider is stealing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭walter sobchak


    nastysimon wrote:
    Ultimately, all tax evasion is a form of theft

    Like Kent Brockman, I say avoision


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭nastysimon


    j2dab wrote:
    Stealing from us? prices would not go down if everybody paid it. How do you consider is stealing?
    Who said anything about prices going down. All the taxes are generally combined into one pot which is then used to fund running the country. If one person pays less, then everyone else has to pay a little more, perhaps not in terms of VRT, but somehow. If everyone pays the taxes they are supposed to, then there will be more money for public services, or more likely, less tax to pay in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    did the merc owner do something to p!ss you off??!!

    you should just leave them to their own fate - what comes around, goes around!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭The tax man


    Move along,nothing of interest here.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    j2dab wrote:
    Stealing from us? prices would not go down if everybody paid it. How do you consider is stealing?
    Look up the word 'society' in a dictionary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭j2dab


    Yeah, lets form a group to rat on every yellow reg in the country, we have nothing better to do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    What an idea. I could make a website where members can post pic's of foreign reg's and state how long it has been around their area.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    land9 wrote:
    did the merc owner do something to p!ss you off??!!
    Yes, they could afford a better car than the original poster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    FX Meister wrote:
    Yes, they could afford a better car than the original poster.

    Ya and it was a bluey purple colour. I can't afford to have mine resprayed to match. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭DingDong


    Isn't VRT just legal theft from the general public by the government :) . It was ment to be abolished years ago I thought when we join the EU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    tuxy wrote:
    Ya and it was a bluey purple colour. I can't afford to have mine resprayed to match. :(
    No worries so love, maybe the boyfriend would chip in to have your car resprayed for you.
    I guess what I should have said was tuxy is pissed off that she paid more for the same car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,082 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    FX Meister wrote:
    No worries so love, maybe the boyfriend would chip in to have your car resprayed for you.
    I guess what I should have said was tuxy is pissed off that she paid more for the same car.

    lol.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Why should I have to pay more for the same car?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Seinas


    i smell jealousy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭C_Breeze


    get a life. i bet your the peering out from the curtain type to see what the jones are up to :rolleyes:

    Ugh , damn nerdlingers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭C_Breeze


    tuxy wrote:
    Why should I have to pay more for the same car?

    Nobody is forcing you to , if you want try dodge VRT aswell instead of complaining, if not shut the hell up and mind your own business


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    C_Breeze wrote:
    Nobody is forcing you to , if you want try dodge VRT aswell instead of complaining, if not shut the hell up and mind your own business

    I don't think you are allowed condone illegal activity on this board. But I'm not 100% sure.
    As for the personal abuse, I will let that go this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    Oh Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz

    :p:p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 741 ✭✭✭michaelanthony


    Are you a bit of a busybody?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    C_Breeze wrote:
    Nobody is forcing you to , if you want try dodge VRT aswell instead of complaining, if not shut the hell up and mind your own business
    As has been previously explained in fairly simple terms, it is his business. Might I ask which part you don't understand? Perhaps someone will explain to you it in even more simple terms than has already been done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    Personally, I think the OP is getting a hard time here.

    Why should someone who obeys the law have to pay more for their car than someone who breaks the law? And before everyone jumps on this - whether you agree with the VRT system in this country or not, it IS current legislation. If you dont agree with it (and I don't either) then take up the issue with your local TD - breaking the law because you dont agree with it is a cop-out.
    The OP is perfectly entitled to contact whoever he/she wishes on this issue, without being subjected to personal abuse on this board.

    Also, think about if the OP's post pertained to insurance - those that drive around uninsured screw everyone else who goes to the trouble of insuring their car. The same could be said about vrt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    why aould you want to report them? it's none of your business and for all you know the person who owns it might have a residence in the UK!


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