How long to lose 2 stone?

Glacier

I'm 5'7 and have put on a serious amount of weight over the last couple of years. I used to be 10 stone & am now 13. It's not because of diet, I just drink an enormous of amount of fizzy drinks.
If I was serious about losing weight, joined a gym and got an instructor how long do you think it would take to lose a couple of stone?
Thank You

allabouttone

it's hard to say... it really varies but you seem to be generally healthy so you can probably have quick turn around as long as you stay dedicated to your diet and workout.

michaelanthony

Glacier wrote:

I'm 5'7 and have put on a serious amount of weight over the last couple of years. I used to be 10 stone & am now 13. It's not because of diet, I just drink an enormous of amount of fizzy drinks.
If I was serious about losing weight, joined a gym and got an instructor how long do you think it would take to lose a couple of stone?
Thank You

I would say that you could easily lose a stone just by not drinking fizzy drinks.

Glacier

How long do you think it would take before I'd notice a difference?

Hanley

I reckon you'd lose 2 stone if you lobbed off one of your arms. You might wanna keep the one you write with tho.

In all seriousness, if you can completly cut out fizzy drinks (and chocolate, I'm making an assumption here) for 2 weeks and go to the gym regularly in that time you'll deffo notice results.

PeakOutput

iv lost a little under a stone in a little over a month but i have not been trying too hard

slicus ricus

Glacier wrote:

How long do you think it would take before I'd notice a difference?

It depends on how much effort you are willing to put it. Post your current diet (excluding fizzy drinks) and training routine, and then i might be able to answer your question and give you suggestions.

bobbysands81

Glacier wrote:

How long do you think it would take before I'd notice a difference?

Mate, fizzy drinks are really bad for putting on weight. They are full of sugar.

If you drank 2l of a normal fizzy drink a day that is nearly half of your allowable calorie intake a day.

Switch to the no/low calorie stuff like flavoured fizzy water, Coke Zero, Pepsi Max, any of the diet stuff. After a couple of days you notice no difference.

Patto

"Switch to the no/low calorie stuff like flavoured fizzy water, Coke Zero, Pepsi Max, any of the diet stuff. After a couple of days you notice no difference."

If you want to fry all your brain cells. The only think worse than fizzy drinks are diet fizzy drinks. Those diet drinks are full of artificial crap, most of which are toxins.

To the op: if you clean up your diet to a normal diet and start with some moderate excercise you will easily start loosing 1/2 a stone a month.

shoegirl

It depends on your metabolism, just modes of exercise and a degree of luck. On the diet I originally did, I found that my weight loss ground to a halt after about 2 weeks unless I did very intensive exercise. Most people however, were able to lose a stone in 4-6 weeks but for me it was never less than 2 months at best.
Having said that I persisted and lost 5 stone. It took me a year, I did put on about 16 pounds, but lost 10 of them again over the last couple of months through heavy exercise and strict dieting. My weight loss sounds very impressive, but the effort is still very heavy proportionate to the benefit. Thats not to say it isn't worth it, just that I need a lot of effort to get small results.

daveirl

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jdivision

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Diet fizzy drinks contain aspartame which the FDA originally didn't want to legalise. It has been linked to changes in moods and some ill effects. Diet fizzy drinks also contain a substance which accelerates the breakdown in the enamel of your teeth, or so my dentist told me. He said I was better off drinking the full sugar one!

rubadub

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Diet fizzy drinks contain aspartame which the FDA originally didn't want to legalise. It has been linked to changes in moods and some ill effects. Diet fizzy drinks also contain a substance which accelerates the breakdown in the enamel of your teeth, or so my dentist told me. He said I was better off drinking the full sugar one!

If you are going to drink 1-2litres of soft drinks per day in addition to your basic metabolic needs in "normal food", then I would say the negative effects of being overweight/obese far outweigh the negative effects of the diet "nasties".

Diet & sugar soft drinks are usually full of added acid, phosphoric in coke, citric in others, the acid will dissolve teeth, the sugar is not so bad in itself, never heard of diet being worse than sugar soft drinks. Do not think that dentists or doctors are all knowing beings, some people treat them like that, yet would have no trouble doubting advice from a qualified car mechanic. Some posts here about advice given by "health professionals" is shocking.

A litre of most soft drinks is 400-450kcal, so cutting them out, while keeping the same amount of other calorie intake should result in just under 1lb per week fat loss.

Patto

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

I'm not a fan, I'd rather drink something somewhat natural (the sugar) to be honest.

Imagine if creatine had the same negative effects. Imagine the mammy brigade, no problem feeding artificial sweetner to babies from 3 months old though. Sugar free calpol contains aspartame:eek:

Transform

Come on are you 'serious' about dropping the weight and feeling better? If you were you would have taken steps already.

Soft drinks - as i have said soooooooo many times before,

I HAVE NEVER TRAINED OR KNOW ANYONE who is or has gotten in good shape that continues to drink any type of soft drink any more than once per week.

How long will it take - about as long as your will power or 4-6months in reality if you follow all the advice.

FunkZ

Whoa, I never thought of soft drinks when trying to lose weight but when I was around 15 I used to drink 3-5 litres a day of coke and a litre of chocolate milk everyday.

I read a while ago (or heard) that a can of Coke everyday for a year will make you gain a stone, but I have no links and can't remember where I heard it.

Dragan

I'm just gonna say right now that you might want to post your full diet?

Sure, fizzy drinks might be the main cause but a general clean up never goes amiss and could lead to faster results.

Hanley

Transform wrote:

I HAVE NEVER TRAINED OR KNOW ANYONE who is or has gotten in good shape that continues to drink any type of soft drink any more than once per week.
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I know how the above is meant, but I take issue with it as an absolute statement.

If you're training hard enough then you can definately get away with drinking soft drinks (bothe diet and the normal full sugar kind). At least that's my experience with it.

Of course, "training hard" is relative. And it probably takes a truly masochistic effort to be able to do it, but it's definately possible.

Transform

The higher your body fat or weight you have to drop then the less excessive carbs and junk should be allowed in your diet. The lower your body fat the more you will get away with.

I still stand by my statement. Get body fat down in a big way and she would have more leway with her diet.

6 days out of 7 eat very well

Zillah

There are worrying connections between Aspartame and various forms of brain damage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

Not quite conclusive but certainly enough to worry me.

What I don't get is, why would someone very much into fitness and health drink something so very artificial? Surely a little bit of normal sugar is better than a concoction of factory made imitations?

daveirl

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ali.c

Zillah wrote:

What I don't get is, why would someone very much into fitness and health drink something so very artificial? Surely a little bit of normal sugar is better than a concoction of factory made imitations?

Eh it depend on who you ask tbh, personally i pay attention to quality and quanity of calories.

Transform does make a really good point though, people with lower bf and who are in pretty good shape do have more leeway with their diets.

Hanley you keep coming out with the fact that you can out-train a bad diet, and i am not disagreeing with you, but if you are not starting out pretty lean to begin with its not as straight forward as that. Just from personal experience I train pretty hard and my diet is okay its not great but its a hell of alot better than it was. Even with training hard i am finding it difficult to drop bodyfat, as my diet is not as good as it could be. You keep coming out with its all about the training but tbh that is only have the battle. You also need to get the input of fuel. For someone who is just starting out, getting their diet in order should be the first priority. If only that you cant sustain high intensive training without enough protein carbs and micro-nutrients.

Irishmale

I also used to drink a lot of fizzy drinks. mainly coke. maybe a 1-2 litres a day. I quit when I started my diet and training and within a couple of weeks my stomach had shrunk and my body shape changed considerably for the better. I also felt better and less anxious. That stuff is addictive. Not nice.

Andrewf20

I used to drink a moderate amount of fizzy drinks, but a good alternative is fizzy water. Throw in a dash of Mi Wadi if some flavour is needed, but usually the fizzy water on its own does the trick for me.

Hermione*

I like sparkling water with a slice of lime as an alternative. Very refreshing and you're getting (a very little) vitamin C.

Transform

ali.c wrote:

Eh it depend on who you ask tbh, personally i pay attention to quality and quanity of calories.

Transform does make a really good point though, people with lower bf and who are in pretty good shape do have more leeway with their diets.

Hanley you keep coming out with the fact that you can out-train a bad diet, and i am not disagreeing with you, but if you are not starting out pretty lean to begin with its not as straight forward as that. Just from personal experience I train pretty hard and my diet is okay its not great but its a hell of alot better than it was. Even with training hard i am finding it difficult to drop bodyfat, as my diet is not as good as it could be. You keep coming out with its all about the training but tbh that is only have the battle. You also need to get the input of fuel. For someone who is just starting out, getting their diet in order should be the first priority. If only that you cant sustain high intensive training without enough protein carbs and micro-nutrients.

Just a quick point ali.c - i totally agree.

If you have weight to drop then diet is a bigger factor and the type of training you do is paramount.

I would never get clients who have more than a stone to drop to lift weights that are heavy for them (as its relative) and i focus on getting them to do cardio 3-4 days per week with 2-3 days weights done in a circuit type manner.

drop the fat and THEN focus on getting stronger.
Hope that came across ok

Beelzebub

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Sweetners like Sucralose?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SucraloseSplenda?
Splenda?
http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0704/splenda-here-we-go-again.php
Acesulfame?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium

There may be a high price to pay for free or so called empty calories.
Remember there really is no such thing as a free lunch.
BTW: Most protein powders contain one or other of the above listed artificial sweeteners, usually aspartame or sucralose.

Another chemical frequently found in soft drinks including flavoured spring water is Sodium Benzoate, which also has health concerns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_benzoate

Personally I avoid products which contain any of these ingredients.
I'd advise you to do the same.
More research needs to be carried out on these.
Even if they were found to be safe, why ingest them?
Your body doesn't need them!

P.S. Even 'Natural' sugar substitutes are not without issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_substitute

daveirl

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Beelzebub

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I haven't just posted up links, I've stated my opinion also.

No one knows what the toxic doses of these sweetners is.
There's enough doubt about them right now to make me avoid them.
Like I said more research needs to be done on them.

You "eat beer of pizza"?:eek:
Now that sounds suspect and I'd definitely avoid that!;)