Psilocybin mushrooms....are they still illegal?

So Glad

I remember mushrooms could've been bought in town before, then some guy took them in a stupid setting/situation and topped himself (:rolleyes: ), Jabba The Harney banned them, of course. Is there any other types of mushrooms or any loopholes that I could avail of so I can full fill the choice to experience something in my own mind??







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Tha Gopher

Try BZP, theyre totally legal.

If you are prepared to endure chronic paranoia to the point you are convinced your similarly out of it friend will kill you, rapid back and forth fluctuations in body temperature, your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser, an inabillity to piss, a near total loss of ability to walk easily, walls infront of you swimming at you, no proper sleep for 3 days and a general comedown in your room which is straight out of Trainspotting, go on ahead.

Honestly, all this nazi government sh1te, some of the legal stuff is far more dangerous than the currently illegal.

JC 2K3

Fly Agaric/Amanita mushrooms are still legal. AFAIK they're much more likely to induce nausea though and there's a different active drug in them, not Psilicobin. I think you can buy them in head shops.

Salvia Divinorum is an extremely potent psychedelic which is still legal. I have had interesting experiences with it, many find it unpleasantly strong/fúcked up though.

There are also a range of legal psychoactive "party pills" available, some of which are psychedelic. I would be cautious if thinking of using these as the ingredients they list are vague(they're most likely untested research chemicals) and definately stay away from anything with piperazines in it(ie. BZP).

Your best bet would be to go with a low dose of Salvia. Even if you don't like it, if you take a sensible amount the trip won't last more than 5-7 minutes and should be overtly intense. It's available in any head shop.

Drugs Forum and Erowid are good and generally reliable places to read and ask about dosage, effects etc. of all kinds of drugs.

The most important info I can give you is: REASEARCH EVERYTHING TO DEATH. Know absolutely EVERYTHING about any substance you wish to take. Always start with a VERY low dose of any new drug, even if it does nothing. Basically, BE SENSIBLE.

Dave!

And if you think you can fly, at least try to take off from the ground first!

</ Bill hicks>

So Glad

Tha Gopher wrote:

Try BZP, theyre totally legal.

If you are prepared to endure chronic paranoia to the point you are convinced your similarly out of it friend will kill you, rapid back and forth fluctuations in body temperature, your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser, an inabillity to piss, a near total loss of ability to walk easily, walls infront of you swimming at you, no proper sleep for 3 days and a general comedown in your room which is straight out of Trainspotting, go on ahead.

Honestly, all this nazi government sh1te, some of the legal stuff is far more dangerous than the currently illegal.

That sounds horrific. The only difficult time I've had on psilocybin mushrooms was the inability to sleep for a few hours and you just look at the wall wanting it to end so you can sleep, but that can be prevented if taken earlier in the day.

Seriously, shouldn't have been made illegal. It's against democracy. The will for the people to do whatever they so wish to do (within reasons not dictated by governments), and bear the results, it's called being responsible. One person died.....so what....he drank 1-2 bottles of wine before he did it, took a small dosage and only waited 15 minutes...I'm sure more people have died eating apples and drinking water than that, not to mention smokes & drink.

Thought policing. Terrible.

Sam Vimes

So Glad wrote:

I remember mushrooms could've been bought in town before, then some guy took them in a stupid setting/situation and topped himself (:rolleyes: ), Jabba The Harney banned them, of course. Is there any other types of mushrooms or any loopholes that I could avail of so I can full fill the choice to experience something in my own mind??

PM if you want.

they're illegal since some tw*t jumped off a balcony on them. his parents went to mary harney with a box of them and said "this is what killed my son". i don't know why they didn't bring a balcony to her and ask her to ban them. or gravity. mary harney should ban gravity because of its dangerous effects on the terminally stupid

doonothing

i still cant believe shrooms are illegal, yet salvia is legal.
i cannot see someone topping themselves because of shrooms, but salvia is a completely different story, its nearly frickin existential.

HammerHeadGym

Forget BZP, as someone said, it's a nightmare. TFMPP on the other hand is fandabbydozzy, great come up lovely buzz, bit of a rocky come down but nothing four bottles of beer can't fix. Sold as a tablet called E-fx.
Alaso, check out san pedro cactus, or peyote. You can get all of em in the hemp store on Capel st.

Your welcome

So Glad

Yeah I heard of Peyote and might try it, although I'd need to do some research first, so I am not taken by surprise (although I most certainly will be!).

biko

Tha Gopher wrote:

Honestly, all this nazi government sh1te, some of the legal stuff is far more dangerous than the currently illegal.

Goodwins Law in the second reply. New record?

I think they should free drugs and let the eejits kill themselves. It seems somehow that's what they want to do anyway.

Fly junkies fly!

Degsy

True Magic Mushrooms (Liberty cap) grow wild in Ireland and can be found in huge numbers through september and october.To remove them from a field or swally them is not illegal but to dry them or process them in any way IS.If you dont know what they look like you'd be well advised to go with somebody who does as there are dozens of similar-sized fungi growing at the same time,some of which are poisonous.Do not take Fly Agaric under any circumstances,its poisonous and doses can vary hugely from one to another,basically take the right amount and you trip,take too much and you need a liver transplant.

Naked Lepper

biko wrote:

Goodwins Law in the second reply. New record?

I think they should free drugs and let the eejits kill themselves. It seems somehow that's what they want to do anyway.

Fly junkies fly!

Drive Alchos Drive!

So Glad

biko wrote:

Goodwins Law in the second reply. New record?

I think they should free drugs and let the eejits kill themselves. It seems somehow that's what they want to do anyway.

Fly junkies fly!

Wow...calling people who choose the psychedelic experience junkies....that's a new level of arrogance for Ireland! Well done, here's a Blue Peter Badge, no go home and show Mammy & Daddy!

Naked Lepper

think you meant ignorance.. but yeah thats all you will find on boards.ie regarding psychedelics and drugs in general
here check this link cos this thread is likely to be invaded by morons soon
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=19

JC 2K3

doonothing wrote:

i still cant believe shrooms are illegal, yet salvia is legal.
i cannot see someone topping themselves because of shrooms, but salvia is a completely different story, its nearly frickin existential.

In fairness, most salvia trips involve one lying down, writhing and most likely laughing one's head off with thier mind in another dimension. Also, your body feels like a dead weight on it. Not exactly convenient circumstances to top oneself.

cance

So Glad wrote:

Wow...calling people who choose the psychedelic experience junkies....that's a new level of arrogance for Ireland! Well done, here's a Blue Peter Badge, no go home and show Mammy & Daddy!

its your choice to take these drugs, personally i say legalise em. If the takers decide to jump of balconies they have no one to blame but themselves.

JC 2K3

The thing is, the whole "thinking they can fly" idea is a farce. Most likely that guy who jumped off the balcony was at least semi-consciously attempting suicide. It would not be unusual to take drugs, usually alcohol, before attempting suicide. Also, as has been said already, he hadn't taken them for nearly long enough to have extremely intense effects, if any effects at all. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest this man thought he could fly.

And the whole problem of self harm on psychedelics(rare in the first place) is vastly reduced by having a sober trip sitter with you and taking them in a safe environment.

Hoochiemama

Tha Gopher wrote:

Try BZP, theyre totally legal.

If you are prepared to endure chronic paranoia to the point you are convinced your similarly out of it friend will kill you, rapid back and forth fluctuations in body temperature, your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser, an inabillity to piss, a near total loss of ability to walk easily, walls infront of you swimming at you, no proper sleep for 3 days and a general comedown in your room which is straight out of Trainspotting, go on ahead.

Honestly, all this nazi government sh1te, some of the legal stuff is far more dangerous than the currently illegal.

BZP is more like legal ecstasy than mushrooms. its NOTHING like mushrooms. its brilliant at the time but the comedown is not worth it. headaches, illness, NOT ABLE TO SLEEP (and i cant stress that enough).

I did it for the first time on saturday and i really really really really DO NOT recommend it. Im still recovering now

On the mushrooms front, i do know a website that you can buy them off. i cant really post it here as i might get a smack on the wrist but PM me if you want.

Peyote (yikes!!!) is INTENSE stuff.

Id recommend mescaline (san pedro) which i can only describe as "a direct phone line with God". You become one with earth and everything. Its intense but very nice and spiritual. It lasts around 8 hours though so you'd need a day or two to recover. There is a shop in temple bar which sells it.

Hoochiemama

biko wrote:

Goodwins Law in the second reply. New record?

I think they should free drugs and let the eejits kill themselves. It seems somehow that's what they want to do anyway.

Fly junkies fly!

As for this. Peoples ignorance towards certain aspects of drugs is almost laughable. And its this ignorance that got shrooms banned in the first place.

Maybe we should get Harney shroomed and she might reverse the law

ntlbell

if you wait untill late aug early september you can pick them yourself.

some of the best places I have found is up near kiltipper and the back of Tallaght....

Tha Gopher

Tha Gopher wrote:

Try BZP, theyre totally legal.

If you are prepared to endure chronic paranoia to the point you are convinced your similarly out of it friend will kill you, rapid back and forth fluctuations in body temperature, your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser, an inabillity to piss, a near total loss of ability to walk easily, walls infront of you swimming at you, no proper sleep for 3 days and a general comedown in your room which is straight out of Trainspotting, go on ahead.

Honestly, all this nazi government sh1te, some of the legal stuff is far more dangerous than the currently illegal.

Agreeed. They are fun for like a few hours. Not being able to sleep get annoying 48 hours later . Being exhausted and unable to sleep at the same time is not very pleasent. They should be illegal!

Degsy

Interesting..has naybody tried Silver Bullets or Huma?

Hoochiemama

I've tried silver bullets. They're ok. The hit of them is very good but Still lack of sleep. there is a little less BZP in them than other party pills. But really, id say you are nearly safer going for the illegal drugs

cance

Hoochiemama wrote:

Maybe we should get Harney shroomed and she might reverse the law

either that or eat the nearest baby.

harney hungry! harney smash!!

xzanti

If you're buying bzp dance pills in capsules.. open the capsules and just sprinke half into a drink.. This lightens the effects and I find it a lot more pleasant.. then if later on you feel you're able for more just do the same again.. Simple..

Degsy

Can you not just drink yourself down off them?

Hoochiemama

Degsy wrote:

Can you not just drink yourself down off them?

it would take alot of drinking. BZP is basically the highest form of caffine.

Stabshauptmann

JC 2K3 wrote:

The thing is, the whole "thinking they can fly" idea is a farce.

When I took salvia, at one point I thought I was in a helicpoter. At another point I though Id jumped off a feris wheel. I know a few ppl who have tried salvia each with different reactions; but mine was fantastic, I lost total grip on reality.
While I think your point about suicide is very valid, I do believe, from my own experience, that some people get the notion that they can fly when on certain drugs.

bandit*baby

Tha Gopher wrote:

Try BZP, theyre totally legal.

If you are prepared to endure chronic paranoia to the point you are convinced your similarly out of it friend will kill you, rapid back and forth fluctuations in body temperature, your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser, an inabillity to piss, a near total loss of ability to walk easily, walls infront of you swimming at you, no proper sleep for 3 days and a general comedown in your room which is straight out of Trainspotting, go on ahead.

where do i sign up????:rolleyes:

FOGOFUNK

yeah most of them party pills are good craic at the time, but i dont know anyone who takes them rugularly due to the horrible comedowns.

Miguel_Sanchez

Degsy wrote:

True Magic Mushrooms (Liberty cap) grow wild in Ireland and can be found in huge numbers through september and october.To remove them from a field or swally them is not illegal but to dry them or process them in any way IS.

Wasn't this the loophole that head shops were exploiting to sell mushrooms? Has it not been closed up now by Harney's legislation or did that only cover sale of mushrooms and not make posession of picked mushrooms in any form illegal?

Hoochiemama

Kaptain Redeye wrote:

When I took salvia, at one point I thought I was in a helicpoter. At another point I though Id jumped off a feris wheel. I know a few ppl who have tried salvia each with different reactions; but mine was fantastic, I lost total grip on reality.
While I think your point about suicide is very valid, I do believe, from my own experience, that some people get the notion that they can fly when on certain drugs.

yeah but like was said above, salvia is the stongest hallucenagenic but causes the user to slump over in their seat rather than act out what they are seeing

JC 2K3

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

Wasn't this the loophole that head shops were exploiting to sell mushrooms? Has it not been closed up now by Harney's legislation or did that only cover sale of mushrooms and not make posession of picked mushrooms in any form illegal?

Picking with intent to consume or distribute for this purpose is illegal, yes.

That said, there are hardly going to be Gardaí policing the Wicklow Mountains.

Kaptain Redeye wrote:

When I took salvia, at one point I thought I was in a helicpoter. At another point I though Id jumped off a feris wheel. I know a few ppl who have tried salvia each with different reactions; but mine was fantastic, I lost total grip on reality.
While I think your point about suicide is very valid, I do believe, from my own experience, that some people get the notion that they can fly when on certain drugs.

Oh indeed it's possible. But my point was basically that if somone jumps out of a window while on a certain drug, what proof is there to suggest that they thought they could fly? It'd want to be a very strong hallucinogen or a delerient to make anyone do such a thing, and even then it is impossible to prove what someone was thinking while on that drug.

psilocybe

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

Wasn't this the loophole that head shops were exploiting to sell mushrooms? Has it not been closed up now by Harney's legislation or did that only cover sale of mushrooms and not make posession of picked mushrooms in any form illegal?

As soon as a mushroom is picked it becomes a Class A drug. The only possible loophole I am aware of is to say that you are bringing them to the gardai for disposal. I wouldn't fancy trying this tbh.

[QUOTE=Hoochiemama
]it would take alot of drinking. BZP is basically the highest form of caffine.[/QUOTE]

Huh?
No it's not...
BZP is derived from piperizine, caffeine is a xanthine alkaloid.

Cake Fiend

psilocybe wrote:

As soon as a mushroom is picked it becomes a Class A drug.

Solution: Eat them directly from the ground!

Hoochiemama

Cake Fiend wrote:

Solution: Eat them directly from the ground!

hahahahahaha, quick!!!! to the mountains!!!!

psilocybe

^^lol

Dooom

DaveMcG wrote:

And if you think you can fly, at least try to take off from the ground first!

</ Bill hicks>

Amen

blow69

I tried the party pills with the BZP with a few friends.When i heard party pills i thought it would make you go wild but i was totally relaxed.It was a nice feeling but the comedown was a bitch especially when you're in a club during rag week! My friends then took one more 2 weeks later and they didn't feel much off of it.MAybe because the 1st time we did it on an empty stomach!

Tinytony

Peyote (yikes!!!) is INTENSE stuff.

Id recommend mescaline (san pedro) which i can only describe as "a direct phone line with God". You become one with earth and everything. Its intense but very nice and spiritual. It lasts around 8 hours though so you'd need a day or two to recover. There is a shop in temple bar which sells it.

Do you mean the shop in temple bar actually sells the extract or just the peyote (san pedro catus) seeds? Think the seeds take 6 to 10 years to grow fully and start flowering.

yank_in_eire

Hoochiemama wrote:

BZP is more like legal ecstasy than mushrooms. its NOTHING like mushrooms. its brilliant at the time but the comedown is not worth it. headaches, illness, NOT ABLE TO SLEEP (and i cant stress that enough).

I did it for the first time on saturday and i really really really really DO NOT recommend it. Im still recovering now

On the mushrooms front, i do know a website that you can buy them off. i cant really post it here as i might get a smack on the wrist but PM me if you want.

Peyote (yikes!!!) is INTENSE stuff.

Id recommend mescaline (san pedro) which i can only describe as "a direct phone line with God". You become one with earth and everything. Its intense but very nice and spiritual. It lasts around 8 hours though so you'd need a day or two to recover. There is a shop in temple bar which sells it.

Mescaline is the active chemical in the San Pedro and Peyote cactus that makes you trip. Obviously if you think there's a difference b/t mesc and peyote then you've probably never tried either and are talking out your arse.

DublinWriter

Kaptain Redeye wrote:

While I think your point about suicide is very valid, I do believe, from my own experience, that some people get the notion that they can fly when on certain drugs.

As the late great Bill Hicks said, "if he thought he could fly, why didn't he try taking off from the ground first? It's called Darwanism people, don't interfere".

zAbbo

Just don't give the mescaline to your kitty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKtapXvW7wE

JC 2K3

I always thought it was LSD the cat was on in that video.

Although, they ran alot of tests with mescaline around that time, didn't they? So that would make sense.

EDIT: Check this out, it's a guy on mescaline being intervewed, really shows how attitudes to drugs have changed in recent times. Back in the day they nearly televised this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo79vF7wctQ

J.S. Pill

So Glad wrote:

Is there any other types of mushrooms or any loopholes that I could avail of .

Yes - Grow your own. I bought a growing kit in Cork last summer and grew a very nice batch in my apartment in Dublin. Now is the time to be doing it though as environmental temperature is an absoloutely crucial variable. I was going to start this years crop a few weeks ago but I'm going to have to wait till the weather gets a bit better. I'm no botanist but if you want some tips PM me.

The Gopher wrote:

BZP...If you are prepared to endure...your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser,

That took me by surprise allright...

The first time I took them I just took one and I had great difficulty sleeping. Last time I took them I took 3 and even though I had managed to procure some tranquilisers mr sandman refused to come.

The comedown is nasty alright, I'm sure it would be manageable if one had 8 hours sleep behind them. All you really need for a comedown though is solphadine+redbull and a large selection of videogames.

By the way I strongly reccommend you all stay clear of Baby rosewood seeds. They're available in most headshops and supposedly mimic the effects of LSD. I felt really really sick after taking these. The effects were similar to LSD alright but only the terrifying parts! I felt really tired but when I went to put my head down a stream of horrible visions went through my head. I just had to ride it out for a while and was fine after an hour or two. Friend of mine got violently sick and had to go to bed at 9pm...poor petal. Seriously, not worth it.

(PS When I tool salvia for the first time I was utterly convinced that Bosco was in the room watching me!!)

Sofaspud

My first salvia trip only lasted about 5 seconds, with the next hour or so spent being really confused about what had just happened, as well as pissing myself laughing.
I've posted about it before, but basically it started with my friend and Brian Blessed (from blackadder) talking to each other about why I wasn't moving, then me realising that I was suddenly attached to the couch (which looked a bit like a row of houses), then being terrified that I'd be stuck there until I died.

Salvia is fun.

So Glad

Sofaspud wrote:

My first salvia trip only lasted about 5 seconds, with the next hour or so spent being really confused about what had just happened, as well as pissing myself laughing.
I've posted about it before, but basically it started with my friend and Brian Blessed (from blackadder) talking to each other about why I wasn't moving, then me realising that I was suddenly attached to the couch (which looked a bit like a row of houses), then being terrified that I'd be stuck there until I died.

Salvia is fun.

Yeah, it does have that "holy **** where am I, what am I, who am I!?" hammer in the face effect.

*RIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHARRRRRRRDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!*

/big bearded terrifying looking king

ianzombie

It's so easy to grow shrooms, and nearly anyother psychoactive plant/fungi.
Its just a shame that growing them is illegal, i used to love my little mycology hobby.

Mr. Incognito

Make sure and go with someone who knows what they are looking for. Very dangerous if you pick the wrong ones.

Here's what you are looking for.

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/P3/P3657.php

Degsy

Anybody ever try nutmeg?Mix a tablespoon with some mashed up bannana and swallow it(tastes dire btw),you'll trip one hour later!

humbert

I've a friend who did that quite a lot for a while, said the symptoms were almost flu like and it really turned his head to mush for the period he was doing it.