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Morrowind or Oblivion? Poll

  • 26-06-2007 11:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I think Morrowind is much better having put bout 600 hours into it but bored of oblivion after like 40. the ability to click on the map for where u want to go killed it in my opinion...

    my vote: morrowind

    Morrowind or Oblivion? 48 votes

    Morrowind
    0% 0 votes
    Oblivion
    52% 25 votes
    Equally good
    47% 23 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I'd have to agree


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I haven't played morrowwind but if you put in 600 hours and aren't bored with it, well it must be good. I've put in a bout 200 hours and I am bored silly with it. Even the new expansion - the shivering isles - I haven't finished because I just couldn't be arsed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    morrowind is better because of a few fundamental differences.

    I love the oblivion world, look and feel but morrowind wins because of lack of scaling enemies, had to walk and discover places by yourself etc


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Morrowind is better, due to the enemies thing. Every battle does not need to be an epic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    is the oblivion world bigger? cause it didnt feel like it.. when ya click on a map to go somewhere in oblivion and dont have to worry about walking, silt strider or mages guild or divine intervention etc. it seems linear to do main quest. i remember it used to be so difficult to get to some camp in the north west, where boat nd then going across mountains was fastest way? its been years but that was cool.

    in morrowind, i did so many dungeons and guild missions before finally finishing the daguth ur main quest but in oblivion, i rode past most ruins on my horse which jus takes away from the game instead of adding to it..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I think I enjoyed Morrowind more but if I were to go back I'd probably laugh at how shitty it is.

    The level scaling is only a problem for you stupid console players :D For PC users theres a half dozen excellent mods that provide different options, from ultra hardcore random monsters to a more subtle and intelligent scaling system.

    Aside from that, Cyrodil is just beautiful.
    the ability to click on the map for where u want to go killed it in my opinion...

    Mod.
    Vegeta wrote:
    I love the oblivion world, look and feel but morrowind wins because of lack of scaling enemies, had to walk and discover places by yourself etc

    Mod.
    Morrowind is better, due to the enemies thing. Every battle does not need to be an epic.

    Mod.
    cause it didnt feel like it.. when ya click on a map to go somewhere in oblivion and dont have to worry about walking, silt strider or mages guild or divine intervention etc.

    Mod.


    Not only have I seen lots of mods that address all of these problems specifically, there are a million more that add all sorts of wonderful things. Right now I'm playing the most gorgeous character I have ever seen. Her face, hair, eyes, body, clothes and equipment all came from mods. I love mods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    mods ftw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Therefore:

    Consoles ftl!! :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Of course you can mod it to do anything. When sodbebody points out a fault in any game should I just go 'mod!!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Of course you can mod it to do anything. When sodbebody points out a fault in any game should I just go 'mod!!'

    Yeah but as a console user I am boned here. So I preferred Morrowind from that view point


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Yeah, but you are a console user. Who listens to you? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Yeah, but you are a console user. Who listens to you? :p

    "Once again Vegeta cant play with the big boys so runs off to weep in the corner"


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Now I feel bad, or aroused, hard to tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Of course you can mod it to do anything. When sodbebody points out a fault in any game should I just go 'mod!!'

    When its a game with such a massive amount of easily made mods like Oblivion, a game that was designed to be tailored to suit taste with such mods, then yes, yes you should.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Cadrach


    Morrowind was so much more atmospheric, with a better storyline and much more character. I remember standing outside that wisewoman's yurt, at the edge of the Ashlands, listening to the sound of tins or something kind of rattling. A great atmosphere, in very hostile territory, and it made me realise how far from Balmora I had come. There was a greater sense of a journey.

    My favourite town was that little village between Balmora and Vivec that you could only reach by foot. I didn't like travelling through the blighted areas, but it made the heart grow fonder towards the safe havens.

    In my opinion, Morrowind > Daggerfall > Oblivion.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Zillah wrote:
    When its a game with such a massive amount of easily made mods like Oblivion, a game that was designed to be tailored to suit taste with such mods, then yes, yes you should.
    Nuh uh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Cadrach wrote:
    Morrowind was so much more atmospheric, with a better storyline and much more character. I remember standing outside that wisewoman's yurt, at the edge of the Ashlands, listening to the sound of tins or something kind of rattling. A great atmosphere, in very hostile territory, and it made me realise how far from Balmora I had come. There was a greater sense of a journey.
    .

    very well put


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭garrethg


    Morrowind's rich lore dealt with the themes of nationalism, colonialism, imperialism, isolationism, cosmopolitanism, religious strife between competing creeds and sectarianism, traditionalism, modernity, slavery, speciesism, and the nature of godhood. Granted these dynamics weren’t always that well utilised in the storyline and side quests, but they were there and added greatly to my immersion in Vvardenfell.

    In contrast Oblivion deals with the themes of... umm... well there’s dungeons and stuff and some demons who are evil because... well they just are. Its bland, bland, bland. Blander than listening to an Enya album dressed in a beige cardigan whilst eating porridge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 JunkieW


    garrethg wrote:
    Morrowind's rich lore dealt with the themes of nationalism, colonialism, imperialism, isolationism, cosmopolitanism, religious strife between competing creeds and sectarianism, traditionalism, modernity, slavery, speciesism, and the nature of godhood. Granted these dynamics weren’t always that well utilised in the storyline and side quests, but they were there and added greatly to my immersion in Vvardenfell.

    In contrast Oblivion deals with the themes of... umm... well there’s dungeons and stuff and some demons who are evil because... well they just are. Its bland, bland, bland. Blander than listening to an Enya album dressed in a beige cardigan whilst eating porridge.

    What he said :D

    I just liked Morrowind better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭h8red


    Morrowind was a much better game. I still put over 300 hrs into Oblivion. I would love if Oblivion had been everything from Morrowind with Oblivion's graphics and combat.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    I've just started playing oblivion, having played morrowind to death
    and I love the little bits like investing in stores (not that I can yet, maybe it doesnt turn out that cool?) or actually buying your own house (though yes, I got a mod for that in morrowind)
    But though I use the click on map thing a lot, I think the original way of exploring with silt strider and walking was better
    a pain sometimes, but better

    I'm also finding everything in oblivion a lot more expensive and harder to make money, whereas morrowind being rich was a lot easier... maybe I just haven't found the secret at-cost scamp in oblivion yet...

    but I like all the little npc things in oblivion like people going and talking to each other randomly and being called by title rather than "outlander" all the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    bluewolf wrote:
    and I love the little bits like investing in stores (not that I can yet, maybe it doesnt turn out that cool?)

    Its crap. Pure crap. Lets say they can spend a total of 1200 on any given item. If you invest 500 they can now spend 1700 on any given item.

    Thats fucking it.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    Zillah wrote:
    Its crap. Pure crap. Lets say they can spend a total of 1200 on any given item. If you invest 500 they can now spend 1700 on any given item.

    Thats fucking it.

    Oh. that's less fun than I imagined.
    Still, I like the idea of officially owning a house that isn't in the middle of nowhere...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Zillah wrote:
    Its crap. Pure crap. Lets say they can spend a total of 1200 on any given item. If you invest 500 they can now spend 1700 on any given item.

    Thats fucking it.

    Yeah I thought it would be really cool but then I finally leveled up my mechantile. I was delighted, tried it and realised what a let down it was.

    @Bluewolf - Level up you alchemy. This skill can literally make you a millionaire. That's how I made so much money. Every time you fond an ingredient take it and just mix them together and sell off the potions. You can even buy the ingredients from one of the shops and sell the potion you make from it for more than you paod for the two ingredients. :) It's easy to level up as well.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    Yeah I thought it would be really cool but then I finally leveled up my mechantile. I was delighted, tried it and realised what a let down it was.

    @Bluewolf - Level up you alchemy. This skill can literally make you a millionaire. That's how I made so much money. Every time you fond an ingredient take it and just mix them together and sell off the potions. You can even buy the ingredients from one of the shops and sell the potion you make from it for more than you paod for the two ingredients. :) It's easy to level up as well.
    I actually was big into alchemy in morrowind, my telvanni house is full of containers of ingredients at this stage
    less so in oblivion, but I might get into it once I'm properly used to the game
    atm I have about 6k, so it's a start
    soul trap + sell was how I usually made money
    although I haven't managed to find the thieves guild yet, I don't know how incompetant that makes me :D
    so stealing everything that's not nailed down isn't working yet...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    To get into the thieves guild you have to be put in jail if I remember correctly.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    To get into the thieves guild you have to be put in jail if I remember correctly.
    Just googled it, that's one of the ways,
    or you can find that "wanted: gray fox" poster and talk to waterfront people
    excellent!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    bluewolf wrote:
    Just googled it, that's one of the ways,
    or you can find that "wanted: gray fox" poster and talk to waterfront people
    excellent!

    Hmm I didn't know that. I ended up killing some woman who helped me in a fight out in the world map to get all the cool stuff she had. It turns out she was someone high up and I had to spend 10 days in jail. That sucked.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    Hmm I didn't know that. I ended up killing some woman who helped me in a fight out in the world map to get all the cool stuff she had. It turns out she was someone high up and I had to spend 10 days in jail. That sucked.
    do you lose skill points like in morrowind?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    bluewolf wrote:
    do you lose skill points like in morrowind?

    Yep. It was painful to watch. I wasn't very far in and all the effort I had out into leveling up was gone. :( It got me into the dark brotherhood though. :)


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    Yep. It was painful to watch. I wasn't very far in and all the effort I had out into leveling up was gone. :( It got me into the dark brotherhood though. :)
    Yeah I'm doing the DB quests, I'm working for whatshisface personally now. Lachance.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    bluewolf wrote:
    Yeah I'm doing the DB quests, I'm working for whatshisface personally now. Lachance.

    They are brilliant quests. Easily the best guild in the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    They are brilliant quests. Easily the best guild in the game

    +1 loved those missions


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Vegeta wrote:
    +1 loved those missions

    They are brilliant. I really wish I hadn't done them first. :( Ended up leaving the fighters guild missions until the end. :(


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Journee Thousands Shortcake


    They are brilliant. I really wish I hadn't done them first. :( Ended up leaving the fighters guild missions until the end. :(
    Is that bad? I'm neglecting fighters atm too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    They are brilliant. I really wish I hadn't done them first. :( Ended up leaving the fighters guild missions until the end. :(

    Did the very same I did the thieves guild and the DB missions and then my interest started to go down hill a bit


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    bluewolf wrote:
    Is that bad? I'm neglecting fighters atm too

    Don't do that. Stop doing the dark brotherhood and get the fighters guild and mages guild missions first as they are the shítest. Then do the thieves guild and finish with the Dark brotherhood. If I was to do it all again this is the way I would do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Don't do that. Stop doing the dark brotherhood and get the fighters guild and mages guild missions first as they are the shítest. Then do the thieves guild and finish with the Dark brotherhood. If I was to do it all again this is the way I would do it.

    me too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Doomrider


    Oblivion is just as good as Morrowind. Those of you who have complaints about Oblivion being too easy I have three words for you.: M'aiq the Liar.

    Listen to him people. If you dont like the fast travel system, DONT USE IT! It's your game, play it like you want.

    Multiplayer? "M'aiq prefers to adventure alone. Others just get in the way. And they talk, talk, talk." Multiplayer TES wouldn't work, because you'd be restricted, which is not the TES way.

    Fast Travel? "So much easier to get around these days. Not like the old days. Too much walking. Of course, nothing stops M'aiq from walking when he wants." If you want to walk, walk.

    Listen to the rest of his rantings, they're quite funny. Fine em all here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:M%27aiq_the_Liar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Started playing Morrowind lately, having finished everything in Oblivion a while back. Don't see why people are so much more taken with it than Oblivion. Wandering around in the wilderness getting attacked by cliff racers and giant rats isn't exactly much fun, I'd rather use the fast travel.

    Having said that I've only just started and my character is shít so exploring may not be much fun yet.

    I played Oblivion without using much of the magic, just chopped my way through it, started Morrowind using mainly magic so I'm not really used to it. These being the only rpg's I've ever played so I've not much idea what to do to be able to level up quickly. Any suggestions? I can't do much of the quests that require me to kill anybody that can actually fight back cos I'm currently useless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Started playing Morrowind lately, having finished everything in Oblivion a while back. Don't see why people are so much more taken with it than Oblivion. Wandering around in the wilderness getting attacked by cliff racers and giant rats isn't exactly much fun, I'd rather use the fast travel.

    Having said that I've only just started and my character is shít so exploring may not be much fun yet.

    I played Oblivion without using much of the magic, just chopped my way through it, started Morrowind using mainly magic so I'm not really used to it. These being the only rpg's I've ever played so I've not much idea what to do to be able to level up quickly. Any suggestions? I can't do much of the quests that require me to kill anybody that can actually fight back cos I'm currently useless.

    For magic characters one of the biggest things is running out of power for spells (forget the correct term) but having a low level spell which uses barely any magic and using that over and over will help you level.

    I thought morrowind better as I felt the world was more believeable or something. The fast travel option kind of cheapened the sense of exploration and I love exploring


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Vegeta wrote: »
    I thought morrowind better as I felt the world was more believeable or something. The fast travel option kind of cheapened the sense of exploration and I love exploring

    But you can still explore, it's not like they removed the option. I used to regularly wander around in oblivion all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    But you can still explore, it's not like they removed the option. I used to regularly wander around in oblivion all the time.


    I know what you're saying but the feel of them is quite different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭YoungPayters


    i tried to play morrowind about 4 times and i just couldn't get into it, i would play it for a while, leave it for a couple of days, then i wouldnt have a clue where I was going or anything like that cause of the that f***ing journal always taking down stupid stuff!


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