The Roundy House - Cork gone snobby???

Ludo

I am in the process of moving back to Cork from Dublin after 12 years. Was in town today with the wife on her first week down (she is not from Cork) and as we were passing the Roundy House she wanted to stop off for a coffee and I wanted a beer so in we went.

There was me in a Munster jersey in the middle of the day in town quite happy to be back in Cork. In we go only to be asked to leave by the staff as "sports jerseys" including Munster jerseys are not allowed. Are they for f*&king real???
Middle of the day and they are asking people to leave? Who the hell do they think they are? Is this the way Cork has gone?

This has NEVER happened to ma anywhere in Dublin which I would almost expect. But Cork..god no..we are all too snobby for you to come in here.

F*&k them...god I hope this isn't the attitude in Cork these days as that is the most ridiculous thing I have even encountered. Let's just say the wifes impression of Cork has gone down a hell of a lot because of this stupidness.

Anyone know if this is actually what is going on in Cork these days or is this just a **** snob pub which should be avoided at all costs unless you are a pretentious wanker???

dahamsta

**** snot pub I reckon. You should have kicked their head in on general principles.

Welcome back btw.

adam

Illkillya

This is not not the general attitude in Cork, I've never seen this before and I agree that it is insane. I could understand if it was at night, but there is no justification for this during the day. You should have turned the jersey inside out and told them to **** off.

Ludo

Yep....at night I could almost understand. Day time...f*ck off. To be honest I just told them they were retarded, turned around and walked out. Wasn't going to spend a penny in there!

Fysh

Yeah, there seems to be a rising number of places going for the snobby knobend approach lately though I'm surprised to have it come up during the day. Soho and that place on Paul street next to Waterstones whose name I can never remember are a couple of other places I've found doormen to be particularly knobby in the same way.

Regarding the Roundy, we'll see how long they last with that attitude, it's changed name and owners at least twice in the last couple of years as it is, and I dont think the snob market is that strong in cork...

Heisenberg.

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Illkillya

Fysh wrote:

on Paul street next to Waterstones whose name I can never remember are a couple of other places I've found doormen to be particularly knobby in the same way.

The Newport or the Woodford or both? SoHo is just a restaurant isn't it? I have never been in there, but am curious as to what kind of snobbery they exhibit.

daveirl

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rebs23

Suprised to hear that about the Roundy. Its always the place I go to at the start of a night out because its a pub where all of us can go and meet up with a relaxed vibe in the place with a very mixed crowd. Never considered it snobby. The last time I was in there at night I was with a friend who was wearing a rugby jersey! Bouncers must be worse during the day!

PS: Welcome Back. Loads of people seem to be returning. Great vibe to the place as well at the moment.

run_Forrest_run

Ah Ludo in fairness tell the full story, tell everyone here who you really are, a thug who likes to go into nice pubs full of nice people talking about art and the green party and just cause trouble. Nothin but a scut

dulpit

That's mad, kicking you out in the middle of the day...

I was inside in the mardyke couple of weeks ago, it was around 8 or so, was playing pool with some buddies... Anyway, there were 2 guys down from us who were shabbily dressed (football shirt for 1 guy, other guy had a shirt and tracksuit pants on (classy)) A bouncer came up to them and just mentioned to them that they'd have to leave around 9ish, which seems fair enough, they didn't mind at all...

That sort of attitude (mardyke) seems 100% ok with me, they can't have a dress code in middle of day... I think that us boardsies should boycot the place or something, pretentious snobs...

run_Forrest_run

dulpit wrote:

... I think that us boardsies should boycot the place or something, pretentious snobs...

I agree, I hate that sort of nonsense. I won't be going in there again anyway. Cork is too small a place to be carrying on like that if you wanna succeed owning such a small bar.

Roar

i wore a jersey in the mutton lane once, the barman said to not come back in again wearing it... havent gone back since, nor would i want to..

i hate that snobbish attitude, and has been mentioned in previous posts, it seems to be growing in pubs around cork

The Woodford is especially bad. My brother was refused entrance recently because he was wearing a hoody. He and his friends went round to the other door of the bar and were granted entry by the bouncers on that door. On their way out later they went out by the door they were previously refused entry by and passed the bouncer who initially refused them entry. He practically had a heart attack when he saw my brother with his hood up and told him he was barred. What a langer.

blow69

Ahhm Cork has been like this for a while now!The bars on Grand Parade/Washington street and that general area seem to take it a lot more seriously than others!Don't call me snobbish but i don't mind this "preference".A lot of bars prefer to attract classy. well-to-do people.And you can't do that when people are wearing tracksuits etc.It's their rules and they probably prefer people who put a little extra effort into presenting themselves.It's not like their asking you to wear Armani suits, just casual/dressy clothes

deRanged

sure, but the Woodford is a dive inside.
Messy cigarette burned seats, filthy glasses and poor food, and that's just how it was yesterday afternoon.
Plus they won't serve coffee after 6!

It's all very well to try to be discerning, but you have to live up to the image you're trying to portray.

Fysh

Seconded - there's not a single venue in Cork that puts the time, money and effort into actually maintaining an establishment that could actually justify a smart dresscode. The Woodford seems to think it's a high-class establishment in the middle of London rather than a second-rate pub with crap seats and a selection of DJs who mistakenly think they're any good. Likewise Soho takes itself very seriously as a classy establishment, but is basically Havana Browns with different colour seats.

Wanting to attract "well-to-do" customers is all very well, but a good way to start is by not packing the venue to the gills so that you end up spilling half your over-priced pint over other punters while moving from the bar to wherever it is you're sitting. Having non-cockheads for doormen is a useful tip too.

dulpit

blow69 wrote:

Don't call me snobbish but i don't mind this "preference".A lot of bars prefer to attract classy. well-to-do people.And you can't do that when people are wearing tracksuits etc.

So you mean to say that anybody who wears a tracksuit is automatically not well-to-do??? I'm sorry now but you say don't call you snobbish and then follow up with that?

I see nothing at all wrong with people wearing tracksuits or whatever they want going into a pub in the middle of the day... That's the point of the OP...

run_Forrest_run

deRanged wrote:

sure, but the Woodford is a dive inside.
Messy cigarette burned seats, filthy glasses and poor food, and that's just how it was yesterday afternoon.
Plus they won't serve coffee after 6!

It's all very well to try to be discerning, but you have to live up to the image you're trying to portray.

Totally agree. It seems pubs in Cork think by being picky at the door they will establish a better venue with nicer people etc...not the case, pubs who aim to target the discerning punter needs to deliver on many counts. The interior needs to be nice & comfortable, well kept (no fag burns!), staff must be nice and courteous and serve quality drinks, toilets spotless etc..Cork pubs need to catch up with certain Dublin Pubs if they want to carry on like that.

Instead I think pubs in Cork should do what they do best, provide a nice friendly atmosphere with 'Character'. Many pubs are losing their individual feel because of such snobby silly rules etc..the Irish pub is a dying breed IMO.

Ludo

blow69 wrote:

Don't call me snobbish but i don't mind this "preference".A lot of bars prefer to attract classy. well-to-do people.And you can't do that when people are wearing tracksuits etc.It's their rules and they probably prefer people who put a little extra effort into presenting themselves.It's not like their asking you to wear Armani suits, just casual/dressy clothes

Point nicely missed there blow69. So now people have to "dress up" to go shopping in the middle of the day so they actually appear well-to-do in case they want to go for a drink break.

Surprised they don't ask for a credit report and bank statements before allowing admittance if this is the attitude to weed out the fake "well-to-doers".

Ludo

run_Forrest_run wrote:

Instead I think pubs in Cork should do what they do best, provide a nice friendly atmosphere with 'Character'. Many pubs are losing their individual feel because of such snobby silly rules etc..the Irish pub is a dying breed IMO.

Couldn't agree more scut boy. I hope you don't intend going to a pub today though...they will never let you in!

These new trendy pubs are such a crock of sh*t. Good old fashioned pubs are definitely the best places to go for a chat and a bit of athmosphere. Unfortunately they are becoming few and far between. The attitude now seems to ber "pack em in" and don't provide anywhere to sit or put your pint down so people will drink quicker.

Next thing you know we won't be able to have a nice relaxing smoke in pubs anymore...DOH!!!!!

run_Forrest_run

Ludo wrote:

Couldn't agree more scut boy. I hope you don't intend going to a pub today though...they will never let you in!

yeah I know...unless I was in Capetown of JoBurg!

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Illkillya wrote:

This is not not the general attitude in Cork, I've never seen this before and I agree that it is insane. I could understand if it was at night, but there is no justification for this during the day. You should have turned the jersey inside out and told them to **** off.

gay friendly pubs (the roundy) are notorious for this type of snobbery, might be to protect the clientele...can have sports supporters going in and asking to put on the match while the afternoon show is on...:eek:

but that only my opinion

Corcaigh84

Consistency is another thing about these pubs that annoys me.
Went to the Raven a couple of months ago around half 7, to wait for a friend who was late. I was dressed well, shirt etc. No bouncer. There was about ten people in the bar. Ordered a pint of Murphy's, half way through the pour yer man asks for ID. I tell him I'm 22, he says sorry, 23's. He says there's a sign on the door (must have been small!), and that he wasn't being a prick, it was policy. I said sure you aren't, and left.

Went in there last week, bouncer on the door, wasn't carded, went in and ordered three pints of Erdinger (not all for me obv).

I know I was slightly O.T. there with age v dress code but you get the idea. The ironic thing is the uncle was telling me what the Raven was like in the 70's, full of dockers, hookers and alcoholics, early in the morning:) No dress code then hehe

Davedubh

Arent rubgy shirts a favoured item of clothing among snobs?

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Davedubh wrote:

Arent rubgy shirts a favoured item of clothing among snobs?

ah that rugby snobbery thing.... that's only a Dublin/leinster thing where only the select few play/follow rugby.


not down here in Munster,

mac1970

Theres only 1 pub in Cork worth going to if you want to wear what you want when you want and that is Costigans on Washington Street'Go in during the day and you will be well looked after by Mary one of the nicest barmaids I have met(was in the bar business for 10 years all over Europe) and with 4 or 5 Tvs qulaity smoking area out the back there is nothing there you will want for

al_g

dulpit wrote:

So you mean to say that anybody who wears a tracksuit is automatically not well-to-do??? I'm sorry now but you say don't call you snobbish and then follow up with that?

I see nothing at all wrong with people wearing tracksuits or whatever they want going into a pub in the middle of the day... That's the point of the OP...

Anybody witness the hilarious skanger fad of wearing pyjama bottoms to shopping centres? Saw a bunch of foreigners sniggering at this one in Mahon Point class! not

ClareBear

mac1970 wrote:

Theres only 1 pub in Cork worth going to if you want to wear what you want when you want and that is Costigans on Washington Street'Go in during the day and you will be well looked after by Mary one of the nicest barmaids I have met(was in the bar business for 10 years all over Europe) and with 4 or 5 Tvs qulaity smoking area out the back there is nothing there you will want for

Ah a fellow Costigans head If they ever close or change that pub I'm never going back to Cork! I almost shed a tear when they extended it!

parsi

Good Lord. There was a trio outside the Roundy last Friday evening and one of them looked like she failed the audition for Julia Roberts part in Pretty Woman. Based on that I would have thought that a Munster jersey would be acceptable (assuming i was the latest version of course )

al_g

parsi wrote:

Good Lord. There was a trio outside the Roundy last Friday evening and one of them looked like she failed the audition for Julia Roberts part in Pretty Woman. Based on that I would have thought that a Munster jersey would be acceptable (assuming i was the latest version of course )

Yeah women look spectacularly tarty these days especially the douglas bimbos out to grab a daddys boy

Blitzkrieger

It's great, isn't it?

JohnK

ClareBear wrote:

Ah a fellow Costigans head If they ever close or change that pub I'm never going back to Cork! I almost shed a tear when they extended it!

Costigans just hasnt been the same since it was extended. I used to be in there a lot before but could probably count on one hand the number of times I've been there since

mawk

well i gotta say ive found the pubs in cork to be startlingly UN-snobby.

right so 2 years ago ish three of us finish a day in college and head into town. its lashing rain and middle of winter so the craving for a cup of coffee hits us. nearest pub is o D's (which is now cubiculo) so we saunter in, jeans, bags, and wetness and ask for 3 coffees, the guy stares at us then demands ID. for cofee.. so two of us hand him garda id one guy only has college id. he says he only takes garda id and the 3 of us have to leave. what a total **** **** **** faced wanker. oh yeah there was ONE other guy in the pub.. ffs

so we started wondering where else would refuse us.. and this started off the coffee testing of old man pubs in cork city.
we turn up looking like students at about 6.30 on a wednesday kinda thing where there are a few customers but the place isnt packed and order coffees. then everything is scored, accordingly. taste, speed, friendliness, athmosphere, price etc..

we've now been to approx 70 (yeah seventy, can you name that many?) in just the city center. limits being about barracks st/northmall/ucc/bus station. roughly that square.

and only one place off my mind has turned us down with out good reason. the mutton lane in. twice. TWICE!!! now that pub.. can just **** off.

iirc the courthouse tavern is in the lead.

minidazzler

I have been to only a few Pubs in town. I was refused entry once but I was well pissed as I was and can't remember where it was.

I have to say though the most unsnobby pub is Waxys and that is where my favourite bouncer works.

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minidazzler wrote:

I have been to only a few Pubs in town. I was refused entry once but I was well pissed as I was and can't remember where it was.

I have to say though the most unsnobby pub is Waxys and that is where my favourite bouncer works.

unsonobby is right, that place is wall to wall scabs and low life's. did ya ever see the state of the ould dolls that go in there.......ohhhhhhhh man rough as fcuk.

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mawk wrote:

and only one place off my mind has turned us down with out good reason. the mutton lane in. twice. TWICE!!! now that pub.. can just **** off.

that is one great spot, atmosphere is fantastic and the music can only be described as epic.
best spot in the city for me, but then again I'm not really into those snobby, camp, politically correct sh~tholes that play crap music and that false/fake atmosphere that seems to be gripping innercity pubs,

jdivision

Whenever I go home I find the pubs way out of kilter with what they are. No white runners, no runners at all, no nothing. I'd go to posh pubs in Dublin without getting any of the hassle you'd get in Cork wearing casual clothes. If you're not wearing those horrible Dubarry shoes and a pink shirt with a navy Tommy Hilfiger jumper you just get stared at by the bouncers in Cork. I find it hilarious and tragic at the same time.

shnaek

I'm surprised to hear that about the roundy. I've dealt with them putting on some events and I've always found them sound to deal with. There is a good vibe around Cork at the mo - I'd hate to see that kind of attitude coming in and killing it.

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shnaek wrote:

I'm surprised to hear that about the roundy. I've dealt with them putting on some events and I've always found them sound to deal with. There is a good vibe around Cork at the mo - I'd hate to see that kind of attitude coming in and killing it.

ass holes....the owners both of them .... they are so out of it its not funny....id say their piss is worth 10k on the street.

al_g

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

It's great, isn't it?

do u reckon its great? and why are u asking me for confirmation insecurity issues? lol

Xiangjiao

Ludo wrote: »

I am in the process of moving back to Cork from Dublin after 12 years. Was in town today with the wife on her first week down (she is not from Cork) and as we were passing the Roundy House she wanted to stop off for a coffee and I wanted a beer so in we went.

There was me in a Munster jersey in the middle of the day in town quite happy to be back in Cork. In we go only to be asked to leave by the staff as "sports jerseys" including Munster jerseys are not allowed. Are they for f*&king real???
Middle of the day and they are asking people to leave? Who the hell do they think they are? Is this the way Cork has gone?

This has NEVER happened to ma anywhere in Dublin which I would almost expect. But Cork..god no..we are all too snobby for you to come in here.

F*&k them...god I hope this isn't the attitude in Cork these days as that is the most ridiculous thing I have even encountered. Let's just say the wifes impression of Cork has gone down a hell of a lot because of this stupidness.

Anyone know if this is actually what is going on in Cork these days or is this just a **** snob pub which should be avoided at all costs unless you are a pretentious wanker???

Wow, get over it. Seriously. Fancy that, a public house refusing service because of sportswear. What is the world coming to?

The funny thing is that (a) the owner is a massive Rugby fan (a real rugby fan, not one of these fly-by-night johnny-come-lately bandwagon hoppers which we have become plagued with), but does not appreciate people in sports gear on the main premises- with some exceptions; his upstairs room will be set-aside especially for Munster fans, many in shirts, today- and for events like the football world cup, but again- upstairs, in the other room, separate from the main bar. But other than than, it is very much not a sports bar.

And (b), you and your type would be the first person to start balling, if, god forbid, a scobe walked into Scotts in a lacoste tracksuit or Liverpool shirt while you were enjoying your afternoon capuccino or a gin and ton-ton.

Some pubs do not want their tone lowered by frauds sporting the colours of whatever bandwagon happens to be in vogue turning up; on the other hand, the lions share of pubs in Cork have no problem with this. So next time, instead of whingeing, leave the sports gear for the sports field (or big occasion), or go to Reardens, the Classic, The Raven, The Newport, the Old Oak, or any other of the innumerable public houses in Cork that would be more than happy to accomodate your sort.

dahamsta

Way to lift a 6 month old thread, dumbass.

Ludo

Are you for real? Get a grip man. Even the "trendiest" Dublin bars are not that stupid in their dress codes to refuse entry to people in the middle of the day. Personally I hope the place goes bust. As for lowering the tone...now that is funny.

It is also good to know that the owner is hypocritical enough to allow in sports fans when there is a match on. So his principles take a break when there is money to be made I guess.

And please stop referring to "you and your type". You have no idea who I am or what I am like. You can take your attitude and get back in the box you crawled out of.

Xiangjiao

dahamsta wrote: »

Way to lift a 6 month old thread, dumbass.

I apologise, it's taken me about probably 9 months to get my account activated.

Ludo wrote: »

Are you for real? Get a grip man. Even the "trendiest" Dublin bars are not that stupid in their dress codes to refuse entry to people in the middle of the day. Personally I hope the place goes bust. As for lowering the tone...now that is funny.

It is also good to know that the owner is hypocritical enough to allow in sports fans when there is a match on. So his principles take a break when there is money to be made I guess.

"In Dublin this, in Dublin that". I don't care too much for what's done in Dublin, but I'm sure they have plenty of places which frown on sportswear. How about here in London, where sports colours of any sort are banned in vast majority of public houses?

As for hoping the place goes bust- petty. Pathetic, and petty. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Still though, judging by the fact that anytime I'm back in Cork, the crowd is spilling out the door there, I don't think that's too much of a worry.

I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all. In his old bar, there were no sports shown at all- the sole exceptions being the HEC finals of 2000 and 2002 (as I've said, he's a big rugby fan). In this one, a room is specifically set aside on a handful of selected match days (generally only for the HEC and Euro Champs/World Cup knockout stages- not for club soccer, or 6n rugby). It's not a sports bar, it doesn't have a TV, and their policy is no sportswear. It's his pub, and he's entitled to run it as he sees fit. In the evenings, the bouncers there are very relaxed, and allow virtually any sort of attire- but not football/rugby shirts. I have never once had a problem being admitted, and I tend to dress very much on the casual side.

As already mentioned, there are numerous other pubs/cafes willing to permit sportswear- so rather than bitching after picking one of the minority that don't, next time you might just proceed to one of the majority that do. It seems highly presumptuous to me that you seem to expect them to change their rules to suit one person. You don't like it? Fine. Go somewhere else and spare us this holier-than-thou nonsense.

Simple, really.

Gary Numan

Xiangjiao wrote: »

I apologise, it's taken me about probably 9 months to get my account activated.



"In Dublin this, in Dublin that". I don't care too much for what's done in Dublin, but I'm sure they have plenty of places which frown on sportswear. How about here in London, where sports colours of any sort are banned in vast majority of public houses?

As for hoping the place goes bust- petty. Pathetic, and petty. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Still though, judging by the fact that anytime I'm back in Cork, the crowd is spilling out the door there, I don't think that's too much of a worry.

I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all. In his old bar, there were no sports shown at all- the sole exceptions being the HEC finals of 2000 and 2002 (as I've said, he's a big rugby fan). In this one, a room is specifically set aside on a handful of selected match days (generally only for the HEC and Euro Champs/World Cup knockout stages- not for club soccer, or 6n rugby). It's not a sports bar, it doesn't have a TV, and their policy is no sportswear. It's his pub, and he's entitled to run it as he sees fit. In the evenings, the bouncers there are very relaxed, and allow virtually any sort of attire- but not football/rugby shirts. I have never once had a problem being admitted, and I tend to dress very much on the casual side.

As already mentioned, there are numerous other pubs/cafes willing to permit sportswear- so rather than bitching after picking one of the minority that don't, next time you might just proceed to one of the majority that do. It seems highly presumptuous to me that you seem to expect them to change their rules to suit one person. You don't like it? Fine. Go somewhere else and spare us this holier-than-thou nonsense.

Simple, really.

You're not wrong!!!

There is no place for sportswear in public houses. I should be able to sit in my local without having to look at people walking around in their toyota jerseys.

CantGetNoSleep

dahamsta wrote: »

Way to lift a 6 month old thread, dumbass.

He's only trying to defend his pub, I hope it's empty today

Xiangjiao

Gary Numan wrote: »

You're not wrong!!!

There is no place for sportswear in public houses. I should be able to sit in my local without having to look at people walking around in their toyota jerseys.

Fair point. I'm not big on people wearing sportswear in pubs. I'm also not big on pubs that enforce a no-trainers/shirts only policy. Do you see me starting threads whining about it, and wishing bankruptcy upon small business owners? NOOOO! I just opt to go somewhere more to my liking.

Xiangjiao

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

He's only trying to defend his pub, I hope it's empty today

Yeah, my pub, good one. :pac: Go back to sleep, lad.

Gary Numan

Xiangjiao wrote: »

Fair point. I'm not big on people wearing sportswear in pubs. I'm also not big on pubs that enforce a no-trainers/shirts only policy. Do you see me starting threads whining about it, and wishing bankruptcy upon small business owners? NOOOO! I just opt to go somewhere more to my liking.

A pub is more than entitled to enforce a dress code. Besides sportswear should be used as said on the tin, worn whilst playing sports. Only a pleb would think that a jersey is approbate for everyday use.

Xiangjiao

Gary Numan wrote: »

A pub is more than entitled to enforce a dress code. Besides sportswear should be used as said on the tin, worn whilst playing sports. Only a pleb would think that a jersey is approbate for everyday use.

Yup. Dare I say it, but this sounds like your typical nasty rugby jock "one for rule us, another for everyone else" mentality. Most of these people were probably still wearing Ferrari F1 jackets as Munster took their first, tentative steps in the HEC. Now that they've hopped aboard, they expect everyone else to fall into step.

Disgusting business, if you ask me.